- Omri Dayan (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)
This page should be undelteled for several reasons. First of which is that I was not finished writing I just reached a good stopping point saved it with thought to continue the next day but it was deleted very very quickly. The information I was going to add included some of his past work, why he is important and some of his family history. In addition to that, I have found out today that he is creating a car show(like a meet) which just adds more reason. If possible I would really appreciate this page being restored... Javabula (talk) 01:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse as 3 deletions closely occurring is enough to suggest the other alternative, which is a Draft at WP:Articles for creation, especially since the mainspace is not a place for works-under-improvements. The CSD A7 is a strong one and it shouldn't be reconsidered any differently here. SwisterTwister talk 04:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse- I can't fault the deleting admins. Maybe you'd be better off writing the whole article off-line or in your sandbox before going live with it. Reyk YO! 07:33, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse. I took a look at the deleted text, and fully agree this was a valid WP:A7. If you want to try again, the suggestion given above about writing this in draft space and going through the WP:AfC process was good advice. Also, read WP:BLP. I'll add that while I don't know of any official policy which regulates writing articles about minors, be aware that in deletion discussions, people tend to be even more strict about applying the WP:BLP requirements to articles about minors, so don't be surprised if you find that getting this approved is an uphill battle. Also, do you have any relationship to User:Drivetribe? For that matter, do you have any relationship with the subject of this article? -- RoySmith (talk) 13:21, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Javabula: Please respond to my questions above, regarding whether you have any relationship with either User:Drivetribe or Omri Dayan. Also please read WP:FORUMSHOP. It's not considered good practice to pursue something in multiple forums simultaneously as you did with your Requested articles edit here. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Javabula: I notice that the image used on the deleted page (File:Omri Dayan August 2017.png) appears to be a crop (and flipped horizontally) from the banner image on Omni Dyans's Drivetribe page. Could you explain that coincidence? -- RoySmith (talk) 12:28, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I've created Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Drivetribe -- RoySmith (talk) 12:46, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @RoySmith: i dont know drivetribe i actually helped Omri film his latest clip and thats how i have the image i read over the guidlines and realize it is not apropriate fior me to write the article (thats why i am less active here now. Sorry about this just learning haha
- I am guessing you are actually the same person who used to use the User:Drivetribe account. If so, the appropriate thing for you to do would be to put a note on your own user page (i.e. User:Javabula) stating that you previously edited using that account. Switching to a new username is legitimate, as long as you are upfront about it. Using multiple user names, and not disclosing the connection, is not permitted. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:07, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't see the original article, but I can't find a clearly notable Omri Dayan anywhere. So yeah, a draft sounds like the best way to start. I'd bet someone would be willing to move the article to draft space for you as long as you promised to not move it back to article space without someone looking it over first. Also, if this is a minor, Roy's comments should be taken into account. While not in policy anywhere that I know of, we tend to be very careful with barely notable BLPs for minors. Hobit (talk) 20:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse. If you're not finished writing the article yet, then the correct approach is to work on it in draft or user sandbox space, where it isn't subject to mainspace requirements — and then when you're done, it can be reviewed for whether it qualifies to move into mainspace or not. But to be in articlespace now, it has to meet articlespace standards now, and is not exempted from them just because you're still working on it. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse this was a valid A7 deletion. The article explained that the subject is the 15 year old leader of an online community with 2000 members, and he posts videos there. He's also related to two notable people. None of that is an assertion of significance, which is required to avoid deletion under A7. I agree with the advice to start a draft instead, and I suggest you focus on demonstrating that the subject meets WP:BIO (which will be needed if the page is to avoid deletion). Hut 8.5 21:00, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse mainly commenting because I saw Hut 8.5 noted being related to two notable people. While there have been disagreements as to whether or not this is a credible claim of significance to the point where I'll send to AfD over that rather than A7, I do not believe that it should be a credible claim of significance, and DRV is the best place to test the idea of it being a WP:CCSI. If this was closest claim of significance that the article had, it should be A7 eligible and I do not fault the deleting admin even if I would have gone through AfD because of uncertainty on this point. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:11, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- These were not close relations with very notable people, which might have constituted claims of significance. The article said his grandmother is Rivka Michaeli and that he was somehow related to Moshe Dayan (but it didn't specify how). Hut 8.5 06:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the specification: I have seen grandparents listed as claims before I believe by a declining admin. I agree that it is not a claim in this case as well: the only time I think that relations could merit a claim is if they are close, the notable person is very notable, and they have some association with their public life (i.e. wife a politician, children of a major celebrity, etc. Thanks for further expanding on this. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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