Wikipedia:Requests/Permissions/Stang/4

The following request has been closed by -- Xaosflux (foo/bar) talk 13:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC) as Not done.[reply]

Closing rationale: This is not ready for open testing.

Stang

Stang (talk · contribs · logs)
Motive for request: To test securepoll running on local wiki per T335201. The Chinese Wikipedia community has a strong interest to use securepoll locally for sysop election, this permission will be really helpful. As securepoll-view-voter-pii is not included, there's no need to worry about NDA related stuff. Maybe this should be done on metawiki, but whatever. Stang 16:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Requested rights: electionadmin
Comments:
Special:CentralAuth/Stang for convenience. Support. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to Special:ListGroupRights this right cannot be granted by local users. If a bureaucrat approves this request the right would have to be granted by a steward. --Ameisenigel (talk) 07:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that you already have regular administrator rights and they include securepoll-create-poll. I guess you should already be able to create polls. --Ameisenigel (talk) 07:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ameisenigel: The reason for this request is that some part of securepoll extension is hard-coded, and you can't do something unless having this group applied to your account. Like, um, you could not add yourself to the "Admin" section on the "create vote" form, there will be an error said "Somebody" is not a member of the electionadmin group. Stang 10:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux: Could you please have a look at this one? Thanks. Stang 05:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tim Starling (WMF): is this available for community testing again? I know there was some significant problems at one point. (please @mention me on reply). -- Xaosflux (bar/foo) talk 08:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, @Martin Urbanec: do you know if all of the underlying issues for this were resolved? (There were many tickets, including phab:T290808). -- Xaosflux (foo/bar) talk 13:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Stang: so I did a test, and securepoll does still collect and make available private checkuser-like information on anyone who votes in these, unless the poll is explicitly configured to not collect this, however that is something that the voter would have a very hard time knowing before participating. -- Xaosflux (foo/bar) talk 22:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So that's likely going to result in this being a Not done for this request, as you would be gaining checkuser access via this method. -- Xaosflux (bar/foo) talk 23:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux: It's true that securepoll does collect pii, but based on my knowledge such information is not accessible to user without a permission called securepoll-view-voter-pii. From the groupright assignment at votewiki, there's two kinds of user group related to securepoll: "electcomm" can create and manage the vote, but they could not see pii; while "electionadmin" can see pii. My request here does not include the permission to see pii, that is not included in the user group here. Stang 01:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Stang I literally just created a poll in the last 24 hours and tested this, the pii is still there. While "securepoll-view-voter-pii" is not listed as configured in the group, it is still available. So more work is needed before this could be extended. A steward could make a poll if something needs to be tested from the voter-side. -- Xaosflux (bar/foo) talk 09:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux: Got it, pretty sad to hear this, there's still a lot of work to do with securepoll. Please close this request. Stang 10:52, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done due to NDA issues that need upstream work. -- Xaosflux (foo/bar) talk 13:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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