Talk: Mira

Mira a Mandalorian?

There is evidance that Mira, in a way, is a Mandalorian. I'm not sure if it's alright to quote from the game, but I have seen other talk pages with game quotes, so I assume I can quote from the game. Below is from a conversation between the Exile and Mira:

Exile: You're a Mandalorian?

Mira: As much as any slave becomes a Mandalorian. They took prisoners on every world they conqured to bolster their ranks- and they took a lot of worlds.

Exile: You were a slave?

Mira: When I was young, yeah. They mostly used me to carry ammo packs and munitions. Toward the end of the war, they needed everyone they could get. They taught me to fight, to hunt, to survive. I was part of their squad, even when I was young. Everyone served as part of the unit, and I felt like I had a place there."

Based on that, if Mira was trained by the Mandalorians, was part of the squad, and she felt like she had a place there, that makes her a Mandalorian.

The Mandalorians "took prisoners to bolster their ranks", in other words, turned them into Mandalorians. And Mira started out as a slave, but then became part of the squad, and was taught by the Mandalorians. If you ask me, I say Mira is at least in some way a Mandalorian. From what I understand, if you join a Mandalorian clan, and are trained as a Mandalorian, you therefore become a Mandalorian.

Also, didn't Kreia say something about Mira's "true father"? a possible a clue that her father was a Mandalorian (just speculation).

I think the article should say that Mira is a Mandalorian, or at least that she was raised/trained by Mandalorians (which in my opinion, makes her a Mandalorian)

70.17.134.221 05:10, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I say she is a Mandalorian, i mean, Mira was taught how to fight like a Mandalorian, hunt like a Mandalorian, and survive like a Mandalorian, and was accepted as a part of a Mandalorian squad, and felt like she "had a place there". To me, that says she is Mandalorian.

I don't know Kreia's exact words, but she did say somthing about Mira, like: "she is not a predator, unlike her true father" or somthing like that. If Mira's true father was a "predator", that would seem to imply that her father may be Mandalorian. If so, then Mira is definitly Mandalorian. Either way, I say if she was raised and taught by the Mandalorians, and was part of the sqaud, that makes her at least partly Mandalorian.

JediMasterRevan 14:24, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

• This brings up an interesting point. Is a Mandalorian a species different than humans (IE: Twi'leks, Rodians, etc) or are they just a specially trained human? CptKenobi 21:29, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • The first Mandalorians were a species, also called the Taung. Later, the Mandalorians started accepting warriors of other species into their ranks. Not only humans, although they were the most common. - Sikon [Talk] 04:08, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Zeitgeist 10:50, 25 Mar 2006

It is generally accepted that although Mira may not consider herself to be a Mandalorian, her being raised in that culture, and even going so far as to say that her family died at Malachor makes her one by default. Given that the Mandalorian species or Taung, as JediMasterRevan correctly quotes, did accept other species, predominantly human as we've seen into the Mandalore clans it's highly likely that she'd be considered a Mandalorian by others of her clan and even outside it.

-There's only one factor that would prove or disprove Mira being a Mandalorian. Was she ever taught Mando'a, the language of the Mandalorians? Because Mando'a seems to be an equalizer for them. Mandalorians can be from any species, but as long as they fully integrate themselves into their society, and that includes becoming fluent in Mando'a, they're a Mandalorian. Hitokiri Akins 01:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

• Not so in older cultures before the death of Mandalore the Ultimate it was mandatory, in Mira's time it was right around there so she probably spoke a good amount but as soon as the last Taung Mandalore died out, it was no longer required. General M. Veers 13:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)General M. Veers Ni Mand'alor! Kendosii!
• Doesn't it state in Triple Zero that Mandalorians adopted war ophans and raised them as Mandos? RC-1187 07:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I think it does. Also, I think Kal Skirata was an orphan who was adopted and raised as a Mandalorian. And Mira herself said she was raised and trained by the Mandalorians, and that they accepted her as a member of their squad, so I'd say she was adopted too, and therefore is a Mandalorian

• Mandalorian is a culture, not a race or bloodline what about Jango Fett? He was adopted and considered a Mandalorian. So isn't about the same for Mira? -Aiddat 21:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• Fett's family was an exmando farming family on the mando world of Concord Dawn. By 'ex' i mean that his ancient relative Cassus fett was a mando, in fact he was Lord Mandalore the Ultimate's top strategist. But yes Mira is a Mando. General M. Veers 13:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)General M. Veers

• Mira is a Mandalorian, she says so herself. I don't have an exact quote, but when you ask her about what happened to her family she says: "Well, the war happened, the first one, against the Mandalorians. Had family right up until the end. It's not really a new story - you hear it all over the galaxy."

Then if you ask her if they died in the final battle she says: "I think so. After Revan crushed the Mandalorians, planets throughout the Republic were flooded with refugees. I was just one of the others." Then you ask her how she could have lost family at Malachor V, she responds with: "Take a guess, "Jedi". Only two groups of people would have lost family at Malachor - and Jedi don't have families." Others have already mentioned that she was trained by them, and served in a squad. It seems pretty obvious to me that she is a Mandalorian. As for this "true father" thing, I think Canderous might be her father. I don't claim to actually know, it's just a thought. Dargos 18:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

• Perhaps, I kinda like that idea but wouldn't Canderous say something, unless its like that never seen my daughter except when she was a newborn boba-ailyn relationship. Ni Mand'alor ven shuku gar shebs! Mand'alor! General M. Veers 13:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)General M. Veers

• As someone stated before, Mandalorian no longer applies to a specific species (or multiple species if you want to get technical), but a culture that now encompasses many species. Anyone who adopted the mind-set and beliefs of the Mandalorian culture could call themselves a legitimate Mandalorian. Mira did this, but went even further. Not only did she come to adopt their culture as a slave, but they can to adopt her into their training, and into being part of their fighting squads. And the fact that she even came to recognize them as her family, and finally felt like she belonged to something, was a part of something larger than herself, she was as much a legitimate Mandalorian as Canderous, Braylor, or any others.--Master Dakari 17:11, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

• At the end of the war, Mira would have been a teenager. The Mandalorians were losing for years once Revan joined the war. Is it perhaps possible that the clan lied to Mira-and other children-so that they would be taken as refugees and spared whatever fate Revan had in store for the Mandalorians? 96.241.42.159 04:50, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Since the consensus is that Mira was Mandalorian, I'm going to remove the "disputed" tag on the main page of the article. 220.157.85.109

Class

IF you train mira, what is her jedi Class? I am always at the end of the game when I get mira so I dont have time to gain influence - Dark Lord Revan

• She becomes a Jedi Sentinel. Sith Lord 04:55, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
• For future questions of this kind, you may consider the official Obsidian forums. Talk pages are used for discussing development of the articles, not for general questions. - Sikon [Talk] 04:56, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • I was going to put it in the article-Dark Lord Revan

Her Family

today, while playing KOTOR II, it was mentioned in dialogue bw Mira and Exile her family died on Malachor V. I assume she meant her "adopted" Mandalorian clan?JustinGann 07:38, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Zeitgeist 10:56, 25 Mar 2006

I seem to recall several months ago that there were several threads on Obsidian's own forums dedicated to the idea that Mira was supposedly Canderous/Mandalore's daughter. Whether or not this theory was backed up by unused content located in the KOTOR files I don't remember, but it would shed new light on both Canderous and Mira, it is generally known that Mandalore's influence in KOTOR II would explain various aspects of his life and may have hinted at his having a daughter, as well as his journey with Revan.

Mira, slave girl?

Didn't a Trandoshan bounty hunter who tells you about all the hunters on Nar Shadda, say that Hannhar enslaved Mira at one point?

Yes, our dear informat did indeed say that. How so, I do not know, for Mira never mentions it. ELV

Canonically a Jedi?

The Exile CAN train his companions to become Jedi. They don't *necessarily* become Jedi(at least not during the game) as a part of the game's story. Therefore, whilst it might *end up* being canon - we cannot say that it is yet. Unless L.Chee or someone has said something I'm not aware of recently...(Ulicus 23:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC))

• Just because Exile trains them doesn't mean they become Jedi. - Sikon [Talk] 04:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Because Kreia calls them the "Lost Jedi" the Jedi on which the New Order will founded upon. --Redemption 04:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Later. After the game. It may be years. When she was speaking this, they were technically rag-tag Force users running around with copies of Idiot's Guide to Jedihood in their pockets. Figuratively speaking, of course. - Sikon [Talk] 04:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't see how a time factor has anything to do with whether they should be counted as Jedi or not. Kuralyov 04:33, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, the complaint is more about how people tend to presume that Exile's training, alone, automatically makes them Jedi. Which is not true because Exile technically was no longer a Jedi to begin with. - Sikon [Talk] 05:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
        • Actually, the Exile did turn them into Jedi. I'm pretty sure the strategy guide (which is a canon source) says so. Also, Mira, and all the others, reciceved a Jedi rank during the game, after the Exile trained them. (Mira became a Jedi Sentinel, Brianna became a Jedi Gaurdian). So if they had actual Jedi ranks during the game, then it was the Exile's training that turned them into Jedi (otherwise they wouldn't have Jedi ranks). 151.203.184.48 13:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
          • But that's a gameplay choice, not part of the actual story. You can train them, in the same way you can turn to the dark side, or you can kill Jan Ors in Jedi Outcast. Doesn't make it canon - Kwenn 13:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
            • Unless I'm mistaken, the most extreme light side choices/version of events, is the Canon version of the story. And if the Exile training his party members as Jedi is part of the "most extrmeme light side version of events", then the Exile training Mira and the others as Jedi is canon. 151.203.184.48 13:47, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
              • Whatever the strategy guide says applies to gameplay mechanics. They "were" Jedi in the game, in a sense that their classes were Jedi Consular/Sentinel/Guardian. But Darth Nihilus and Sion were also Jedi Guardians in-game - should we count them as Jedi too? They were not officially Jedi, as they were trained by a non-Jedi and not approved by the Council. End of story. And by the way, Exile's alignment isn't set, LS is only presumed, but neither LS nor DS is currently canon. - Sikon [Talk] 13:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

While I'd argue that once they're trained, they *are* Jedi (only apprentices mind you), my point is what Kwenn said. We do not know for certain if the Exile trained them throughout KotoR II, since there has been pretty much no word on what's canon. Personally, I don't train them - because how *anyone* without the surname of 'Skywalker' can become so good so fast escapes me. Really, it makes no sense in the context of Star Wars - so that it's being accepted as 'canon' so eagerly is rather disturbing. The light side *ending* might be canon, but that doesn't mean that every choice along the way is.(Ulicus 12:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC))

• Jedi apprentices are selected by the Jedi Order itself. To repeat, Exile, not being a Jedi, couldn't have Jedi apprentices. I don't know why so many people fail to see this point. - Sikon [Talk] 12:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I see the point, but I think you're being a little too strict in your definition of "Jedi" there. The Exile *assuming he's light side*, IS a Jedi. The Jedi Order, especially with the cowering Council that they have by TSL - really aren't in any position to be making judgements on who's a 'real' Jedi and who's not. In every sense that matters, LS Exile is a Jedi. As for the companions... well, if you're learning the "ways of the Jedi", then you're on your road to becoming a Jedi. If the Exile was just teaching them "how to tap into the Force", it would be different, but he's specifically passing down Jedi techniques and Jedi skills. I mean, I suppose from a purely *technical* standpoint, you're correct. Only the Order can bestow the title of Jedi apprentice/padawan/knight, and since the Exile is an 'exiled Jedi', he's "not a Jedi", as you rightly said. But I think that truly 'being a Jedi' is more than just having a title. Whatever. I don't even really care about that - all I'm bothered about is that the article says the Exile trains Mira, when he doesn't necessarily do so.(Ulicus 23:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC))
    • By Jedi, I mean, and Wookieepedia means, those — and only those — who were technically Jedi. Whether the Order was "in the position" to dictate anything is irrelevant. - Sikon [Talk] 06:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Fair enough. But since all the other Jedi (except perhaps Atris/Bastila) die, then... how can there ever be any more technical Jedi? The Exile is the new 'founding figure' of the Jedi by the end of KotOR II, and the people who have been trained certainly think they're Jedi, call themselves Jedi and eventually train more Jedi - which leads us to the prequel era. Since none of them were ever declared Jedi by the Order as it stood before them however, I guess that means none of the prequel era are technical Jedi? :P Whatever. I'm just playing devil's advocate. (Ulicus 12:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC))
        • You answered your question with "(except perhaps Atris/Bastila)". - Sikon [Talk] 13:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Aye. That I did, though I think I'll just stick to Bastila. Calling Atris a Jedi is a bit much, the Sithy minx. Is Bastila a Jedi Master by KotoR 2? Does she have the authority to create technical Jedi?

I don't know. Where's the Wookiepedia policy on technical and non-technical Jedi listed anyway?

(Thinks) Why am I even getting involved in this part of the debate? Like I said, I don't train the Exile's companions, so whether or not they'd be considered 'Jedi' is irrevelant for me. We know that they end up becoming Jedi... (I think), but yeah, it's fair to say that even when you train them, they don't become proper Jedi 'in game'.

They're, uh... um... Jedi In Waiting? Psuedo-Jedi? Jedi Wannabes?

Gah! I think we can agree, regardless of what they're called, that the Exile's training is what sets them on the path *towards* Jedi Knighthood. (217.135.130.100 04:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)) < That was me. Tired, just got in from town. Not writing at 100% sobriety. Obviously. (Ulicus 04:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC))

• At the moment, it doesn't matter, but lets think about this a moment, no Star Wars game official ending has ever been a DS ending, so more than likely KOTOR II has a LS ending, male or female Exile doesn't matter; so I would safely say that the Exile's companions, whoever they are including Mira, will at some point become official Jedi Knights in some compacity, and it is probable that the "Lost Jedi" rebuilt the order. User:RushinSundaws 12:14, 27 May 2006
  • No one's denying the probability of a LS ending. The key word there though, is *ending*. Who's to say your LS Exile trained anyone? I think it's likely that, if it is the LS, it will be assumed that the Exile trained his/her companions, but it shouldn't really be in the article as fact until we know what's what.(195.92.168.175 15:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC))
  • And Sikon, by your own reasoning, the entire NJO is invalidated.(Not that that's neccesarily a bad thing...)SithPower 13:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately not, because Luke was given the title of Jedi Knight by the Grand Master of the Old Jedi Order and he started the New Jedi Order... (Ulicus 17:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC))
• [Redacted by administration] (Mikda Fopal)

She has not been confirmed to have been trained on Nar Shadaa in a canon source though. While the strategy guide says that she can be, the strategy guide also calls Atris the new darth Traya. just my opinion. Gotoisevil

• I believe it is canon that the Exile eventually trains them.

"They were the lost Jedi. The true Jedi upon which the new order will be built." -- Kreia

Something to that extent. --Redemption^Talk 23:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

So by Sikon's definition, Luke Skywalker WAS NOT a Jedi... After all he wasn't officially approved by the Council (Yoda does not a council make) and never passed the trials or was a padawan. At no point was he officially declared a jedi by anyone other than himself and his enemies. And yet he was a Jedi and went on to found the new order..

• I love the points made above about Luke Skywalker... whoever made them, you hit the nail on the head. Also, who says that the Jedi Exile isn't a real Jedi? Sure, the Jedi Council exiled her from the Order. However, keep in mind what Mical explains during the game. The Disciple is one who has extensive knowledge of Jedi Tradition and Culture through his in-dept research and study over the years. What he has observed and learned through his study proves that the sentence of "exile" within the Order is a very thing, and that the Council couldn't have truly forced it upon the Exile anyway. The Council's judgment was only as valid as the Exile was willing to let it be. Upon accepting the sentence, then she was no longer a Jedi anymore. But if she has the power to accept it, then it is implied she also has the power to relenquish it later on, if she so chooses. Which, I don't think anyone will argue, she decides to do during the events of the game. Before her exile, the Exile's rank was Jedi Knight. Jedi Knights have all authority to take on a Padawan (and more, during earlier times and times of distress for the Order)and train them in the ways of the Jedi. If the Exile had the right to reverse her sentencing (which I believe she did), then she once again became a valid Jedi Knight. Therefore, she had all right and responsibilty to take on a Padawan. And with the Order in the state of distress it was at the time, she had the right to takeon more than one... as in not uncommon in most similar cases. Also, the canon alignment of the Jedi Exile is LS. In the New Essential Guide to Droids, the Exile is defined as a "Heroine". This is to imply that the Exile was a LS Female. Female: because "heroine" is the feminine form of "hero"; LS: because DS characters are not considered a "hero" unless by their own twisted followers. Not to mention that the conditions a DS Exile would leave the in-game worlds is not canon.--Master Dakari 20:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
• I would also like to add another point: Someone mentioned Bastila earlier. For what? If you are saying that only the Jedi Council can make one a "technical" Jedi, the even she might be SOL. I say "might" because there is a chance that she was never promoted to the rank of Jedi Knight before the events of TSL takes place. I'm not saying she wasn't, she may very well have been. But we don't know. All I am saying is that with the depressing situation the Order was in during this time-period, and with the Exile's case as unique as it is, then I suggest that the ones she trains are official Jedi. The Exile is a legitimate Jedi Knight, and trains them in the Jedi way. Though it might seem unorthodox, you have to take every situation into account. It was unorthodox for Anakin Skywalker to be forceably added to the Jedi High Council, by Chancellor Palpatine, without having attained the rank of Master. However, it happened. Ulic Qel'Droma was stripped of the Force and exiled from the Jedi Order, but he still trained Vima Sunrider in the ways of the Jedi, and she was considered a valid Jedi. Though there are set ways and customs the Order follows, there are those rare cases where desperate times call for desperate measures. I would assume, and most of you might agree, that the times during the TSL game were truly desperate. Not to mention that there wasn't much of a Jedi Council - or even Jedi Order, for that matter - left to decide what was "technical" or "valid" and what wasn't.--Master Dakari 20:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

My call would that they're Jedi in the same sense Luke was. There was no Jedi Order at either period - just a scattered handful of exiles. They were found at adulthood by one of the last remaining Knights and trained to the greatest extent of that Knight's capability. Mind you, Yoda and Kenobi didn't have a long time to train Luke, either. - Allronix

You definitely have to look at the dire circumstances of the fact that the Jedi Order was all but destroyed after the Jedi Civil War and the remaining Jedi were being hunted down, turned to the dark side, or simply in hiding. Mira and the others were simply Force Sensitives who didn't realize their potential until they encountered the Exile who began training them in the Jedi Ways and their training dictated their ranks with Brianna's warrior skills leading her down the path of the Jedi Gaurdian and because of their talents of multiple skills, Atton and Mira became Jedi Sentinels. Besides, Jolee said it best when he said "The choice of good or evil like the Force itself is in all living creatures and belonging to the Jedi Order or The Sith doesn't change who you are at your core." so learning the ways of The Force as an outsider from an exiled Jedi makes you as much a Jedi as any member of The Order as you don't fall onto the path of the dark side plus the fact there was no Jedi Council around to say otherwise.

Head quote

• Aren't we supposed to only have one head quote? Shouldn't we get rid of one of them? - Yoshi626 09:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Mira Fighting Hanharr

Good image, no doubts there - but should it really be in the article? Is that image necessarily canon? No. We don't know what Mira wore as a Jedi, nor what type/colour of lightsaber she used. It should be removed.(Ulicus 17:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC))

• For clothing, I believe the only canonical appearance for characters in KOTR I and II is their default clothing; what they have on when you get them.Darth Ceratis 05:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, except for Jolee and Juhani, who automatically come with brown and red robes, respectively.

5.2 Factual correction

In the "Personality and traits" section it states;

Mira dressed in tight, revealing leather, which she said helped to distract her targets.

In the game if you look at the Equipment Screen under Body it lists; Mira's Ballistic Mesh Jacket. Usable by: Mira Then there are a bunch of game parameters that detail how protective the clothing is against various attacks. In the final description it reads:

One of the first major purchases of a successful bounty hunter is often exceptional protection. Mira's mesh jacket is as protective as medium armor but much less restrictive.

So my question is; Is it worth changing the description in the wiki? Do we conclude from the description in the game that only the jacket was ballistic mesh or that her outfit was ballistic mesh. Heheh. Gotta love trying to get all the facts right from a game where facts were dealt with kind of loose and easy. Twk4258 03:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• The item itself was her jacket so we can only say that her jacket was made from ballistic mesh. Don't assume anything. --Redemption^(Talk) 03:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Escape from Malachor

How did Mira escape from Malachor V? Did she take one of those ships in the gravity well?

• Are we talking about the Battle of Malachor V or the end of TSL here because they're different scenarios. In terms of the former we don't know canonically though I figure she wasn't at Malachor (it's possible she says something along those lines... I don't really remember). In terms of the latter she probably hitched a ride on the Ebon Hawk. After all, we don't know who was driving the Hawk when it dropped by to pick up the Exile. But again, we don't know specifically. --Niirfa-sa 18:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not convinced. At the end of the game, The Ebon Hawk is shown flying directly into the unknown. Your page says Mira spared Hanharr on Malachor, and then magically had a great life thanks to the exile. I'm just asking that you put something in to make sense.

• If there is nothing, then there is nothing to put in. Frankly, we have no clue how Mira escaped Malachor. --Redemption^(Talk) 15:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You know what probably happened. After Kreia's death, the Exile did what Revan did. Took his friends to the edge of the galaxy, said his goodbyes, and left with the droid(s) and the Hawk.

• Keyword in that sentence that basically trashes your idea. "Probably". We don't deal in speculation and maybes. --Redemption^(Talk) 18:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

homeworld

How do we know she is from Nar Shadaa? Didn't she flee there after the Mandalorian Wars? Etan O'Hara 21:22, 21 February 2009

• It's her "home". Not her birth world necessarily. --Redemption^(Talk) 05:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

There's a difference between your "home" and your birth world! Her birth world, a. k. a. homeworld, is unknown! Etan O'Hara 8:11, 22 February 2009

• Big difference between birthworld and homeworld. Birthworld = the world you were born. Homeworld = the world you grew up on or the one that has been said to be your home. See Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Solo. --Redemption^(Talk) 04:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Dark Mira

We need a picture of Mira's portrait when she goes to the dark side. Please find one.

• There ISN'T one. If the player is dark side, they get the wookiee. Mira is strictly for the light. --75.68.29.221 01:29, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

• I know there has to be one, since (I think) I've seen it before. You'd just have to be slightly Light-Sided by the time you go to Nar Shaddaa, and then once you acquire Mira in the party, use one of the "Infinite Dark-Side Points" methods in the game (Travel back to Telos Citadel Station & choose the Dark Side dialogue options with Moza in the Ithorian Compound). This is, of course, assuming you chose to help the Ithorians...which I do most of the time just for the extra Force Point bonus.

I don't know why, but I actually like Dark Mira more than regular Mira or even Hanharr (which makes me wonder...what would a Light-Sided Hanharr be like?)

Ifnsman 00:57, July 26, 2011 (UTC)Ifnsman 8:26 P.M., July 25, 2011 (EST)

Can somebody find this portrait? I'm 100% sure it exists but I don't know how to upload it--Gboy4 00:26, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Eyes?

The article states that Mira has brown eyes, but in every pic I've seen, they look green.

Pic of Dark Mira

There is indeed a pic of Dark Mira, in the companions section of the official strategy guide. Near-sighted Jedi 16:28, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Dark Side future

If the Exile is neutral by Nar Shadaa and recruits Mira, then goes dark, Mira can be trained as a dark Jedi, and Darth Traya's prediction of Mira's future changes. Yet this is not listed on the artcile, and unfortunately, I do not have access to the game. Does anyone have a link to a video or some source about Mira's darkside future? 166.137.89.162 04:19, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

This may still be a good thing to add.... 107.77.76.79 02:37, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

The whole debate about weather or not the exiles companions become a Jedi or not is kinda up to interpretation. I believe that some did and others didn’t. For example, if your a LS female who trains the disciple, than Kreia says that he will indeed sit upon the new Jedi council. That means that not only does he receive the rank of Jedi, but master along with it. However, in the mobile game, Star Wars Galaxy of Hero’s, Vissas Marr was officially released, and was NOT classified as a Jedi, just a light side force user. So while one became a Jedi, another didn’t. In my personal opinion, I believe it’s all up to the individual. There are indeed hints of who will and who won’t become a Jedi in Kreia’s finally dioloauge, but some fates are known so far. Disciple is a Jedi, Vissas is not, I believe that Handmaiden would become one, considering what she says after the confrontation with Atris, and what Kreia says about her. It is widely said that Bao-Dur dies getting Hk to the factory on Telos, and both Atton and Mira and Atton both have debates going for them as Jedi and as not Jedi. In my personal opinion, I don’t see Atton as one, and I see Mira as something more like Jolee, an inbetween the light and dark

Move request

• As per the naming policy, canon subjects take precedence over Legends ones, and if multiple characters share a full name, that name should be made into a disambiguation page. Based on these rules, I am formally requesting that one of the mods move this page to "Mira (Human)", and move Mira (disambiguation) to Mira. As the page appears to be move-protected, I can't do it personally. SilverSunbird (talk) 05:06, September 22, 2020 (UTC)
  • The policy stipulates that Canon subjects take precedence over Legends ones only when one Canon subject is competing for the same title of a Legends one. Then, a disambiguation page may be made where necessary. However, in this case, it is requested that this page be moved to make way for a disambig, which is not covered by the naming policy's "Disambiguation between continuities" section. - - - OOM 224 ༼༽^{talk}༼༽ 05:38, September 22, 2020 (UTC)
    • There are now two subjects in canon also named "Mira". In addition, there is also the Legends planet, which has precedence per the naming policy within that continuity. So I'm just going to renew my request. SilverSunbird (talk) 01:51, 10 October 2022 (UTC)