Unchained

Laura Shin
Unchained

Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    The Chopping Block: Scarcity vs. Abundance, AI’s Crypto Role, and Virtuals

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, the crew is joined by special guest Jansen, co-founder of Virtuals, the leading AI agent launchpad. Together, they dive into the $5 billion Virtuals craze, explore the explosive rise of tokenized AI agents like AIXBT, and debate how AI is reshaping DeFi and blockchain. From the clash between scarcity and abundance to the emergence of agentic societies and decentralized economies, this episode unpacks the key trends driving the next phase of crypto innovation. Show highlights 🔹 AI and Crypto Convergence: The panel explores how AI agents are revolutionizing blockchain, tokenomics, and decentralized finance (DeFi). 🔹 Virtuals AI Launchpad: Jansen discusses Virtuals, a platform for tokenizing and crowdfunding AI-driven blockchain agents. 🔹 Autonomous AI Evolution: The rise of AI agents from basic chatbots to self-improving tools for crypto and DeFi applications. 🔹 Tokenized AI Agents: How agents like AIXBT generate revenue through trading, attention, and blockchain commerce. 🔹 Managing AI Risks: Insights into policy-based wallets and infrastructure to mitigate risks in autonomous crypto agents. 🔹 Decentralized Agent Societies: A vision for specialized AI agents collaborating in blockchain ecosystems. 🔹 Scarcity vs. Abundance in Crypto: Contrasting crypto’s scarcity-driven models with AI’s abundance and economic disruption. 🔹 AI Agent Backlash: Predictions of anti-AI sentiment as agents dominate Crypto Twitter and online communities. 🔹 Blockchain Verifiability: The role of cryptographic proofs in ensuring trust and security in AI-driven tokenized economies. 🔹 Future of AI in Crypto: Debates on sustainable applications for AI agents in trading, DeFi, and digital economies. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures Special Guest ⭐️Jansen Teng, Co-Founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol Disclosures Timestamps  00:00 Intro 02:19 What Are AI Agents? 07:23 AI Agents in Crypto 13:04 AI-Driven Societies Emerge 15:53 Challenges of AI Agents 24:47 Tokenizing AI Revenue Models 35:13 AI Crypto Predictions 43:26 AI Influencers and Trust 53:54 Perception of AI Content 01:04:44 Humans vs. AI Roles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    1h 7m
  2. 2 DAYS AGO

    With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like?

    In this episode, Shaw Walters, founder of Eliza Labs, takes us through his journey of launching ai16z, a decentralized AI-driven investment DAO, and the explosive growth of the Eliza open-source framework. Shaw explains how AI agents are evolving beyond "reply bots" to serve as powerful tools for financial autonomy, community investment, and user empowerment. He shares the challenges of building trust between humans and AI, the possibilities of agents trading across multiple blockchains, and his vision of a world where financial freedom drives human progress. Show highlights: Why Shaw decided to launch ai16z What he believes AI agents are useful for  What the Eliza framework is and the role it plays being an open-source project Whether AI agents can be good at trading Why the Eliza framework works on every chain, even though there’s a focus on Solana How and why the AI version of Marc Andreessen was launched Whether ai16z will launch its own layer 1 and the details on the future launchpad How agents on social media could be really useful instead of being “reply bots” What Shaw thinks overall of the AI space and how it’ll impact human society Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Kelp DAO Guest Shaw Walters, Founder of Eliza Labs Links Unchained:  The Backstory of How 3 AI Agents Led to the Rise of the Hottest Memecoin, GOAT AI Meme Tokens Like FARTCOIN Dominate Crypto Markets, Suggesting Powerful 2025 Trend The Block: AI agent platform ai16z considers tokenomics overhaul and launching Layer 1 blockchain Chain of Thought: Ai16z: The Bazaar of Agents Cygaar: How the Eliza Framework works Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:01 Shaw’s inspiration for launching ai16z 08:45 How AI agents are evolving beyond simple tasks 10:28 The Eliza framework and its open-source impact 13:22 Can AI agents excel at trading? 21:19 Why Eliza works seamlessly across multiple blockchains 24:08 The story behind launching Marc Andreessen as an AI character 35:18 Plans for ai16z’s layer 1 and its future launchpad 40:23 Transforming AI agents into more than just “reply bots” 43:26 Shaw’s vision for AI’s role in shaping human society 49:26 Crypto News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    1 hr
  3. 5 DAYS AGO

    2024 Was Full of Fascinating Crypto News. Here Are Its Top Moments

    2024 was nothing short of transformative for the crypto world. From bitcoin’s relentless climb amidst macroeconomic shifts to Solana’s continued rise amidst meme coin mania, this year saw narratives unfold that no one could have predicted.  In this special episode that has become a tradition at Unchained, Laura revisits the biggest moments of the year, featuring insightful clips from the standout guests who joined Unchained and Bits + Bips in 2024. Whether it was further institutional adoption, debates over decentralization, the victory over Gary Genser’s regulation by enforcement strategy, or the taking off of AI agents, this year marked a turning point for crypto. Tune in for a reflective journey through the year that was—and a glimpse of what lies ahead in 2025. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Robinhood & Arbitrum Highlights and Timestamps: 03:15 | Matt Hougan on the significance of spot bitcoin ETFs 04:31 | Jesse Pollak explains the impact of Ethereum’s Dencun upgrade 05:43 | Eric Balchunas on the rapid adoption of bitcoin ETFs 07:53 | Kyle Davies reflects on 3AC’s collapse 10:11 | Carlos Domingo discusses BlackRock’s BUIDL fund 11:13 | Sam Enzer on the reasoning behind SBF’s sentencing 13:04 | Arthur Hayes debates the potential of a bitcoin supercycle 15:44 | Ansem breaks down the memecoin craze 16:42 | Eric Balchunas and Matt Hougan on ether ETF approval 18:18 | James Seyffart on SEC politics and ETF decisions 19:51 | Laura Brookover on the end of the Ethereum 2.0 probe 21:08 | Bryan Pellegrino on tackling Sybil attacks with LayerZero 23:42 | Iggy Azalea on her fascination with memecoins 24:31 | Joe McCann on how the assassination attempt influenced Trump’s win 25:47 | Ro Khanna on the democratic party’s stance on crypto 26:44 | George Selgin critiques a U.S. bitcoin reserve proposal 28:35 | Nick Tomaino on the truth-finding power of prediction markets 29:50 | Jack Booth on TON’s viral growth strategies 31:58 | Jeff Dorman on why the ETH sell-off was a buying opportunity 32:29 | Caitlin Long and Michelle Kallen on their lawsuit against the Fed 33:52 | Justin Bons on why layer 2s might be parasitic to Ethereum 35:13 | Taylor Monahan on how North Koreans infiltrated crypto companies 36:42 | Taylor Monahan recounts a failed North Korean job interview 39:13 | Teng Yan on how truth terminal redefined AI and crypto 40:36 | Ryan Salame on DOJ dealings and his guilty plea 42:40 | Alex Kruger on Trump’s election and its crypto impact 43:44 | Jeff Park on Uniswap and Solana’s post-election gains 44:57 | Faryar Shirzad on the success of the FairShake PAC 46:15 | Eric Balchunas on the importance of bitcoin ETF options 47:26 | Cody Carbone on Paul Atkins’ nomination as SEC chair 48:19 | Mike Selig on David Sacks as crypto and AI czar 49:27 | French Hill on token standards under FIT21 50:33 | Maria Shen on Solana’s rise in new developer activity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    53 min
  4. 12/27/2024

    RERUN: How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price

    Low float and high fully diluted valuation (FDV) coins have been a hot topic in crypto this year. Yet, understanding these coins' unrealized gains is critical for truly grasping their pricing. In this episode, Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital dive deep into metrics that help assess a coin’s true value. They discuss why upcoming token unlocks may put downward pressure on the market, how token unlocks could be better structured for long-term success, and whether VCs are extracting more value than they contribute. Show highlights: Why upcoming token unlock events are creating anxiety in the crypto market The role unrealized gains play in token price volatility How certain projects manipulate circulating supply metrics to influence perceptions Tips for everyday investors to uncover accurate token information The impact of secondary market trading on anticipated token unlock events Why short-term token strategies often prevail over those focused on sustained success Jose’s insights into why simple, time-based unlock models may outperform complex systems Ari’s thoughts on the SEC’s investigations into VCs and their parallels to pump-and-dump schemes Why many crypto projects face a bearish outlook due to pending token unlocks How the intersection of memecoins and VC involvement could shape the next market cycle Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Guests: Jose Macedo, founder at Delphi Labs Ari Paul, CIO of BlockTower Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: Ari Paul on Why Bitcoin Is a Good Value Buy Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital on the Crypto Downturn and Why It Could Change Direction Links High FDV and unlocks: Unchained: How ‘Fully Diluted Valuation’ Can Be a Very Dangerous Metric for Crypto Markets to Rely On Who’s to Blame for the Underperformance of Low Float, High FDV Tokens? 80% of Tokens on Binance Are Down Since Listing Date: SwissBorg Researcher Cobie newsletter: New launches (part 1) - private capture, phantom pricing Rocknblock: Token vesting explainer CoinDesk: 'Liquid Vesting' Is Oxymoronic Blockchain Feature That Lets Early Investors Sell Without Waiting Jose’s thread that inspired the episode Ari’s post responding to Jose’s thread Token.unlocks.app: Token vesting tracker Solutions: Hack VC: Potential Solutions to Crypto's Unlock Problem Colony Lab: Early-Stage Program & Liquid Vesting Imran Khan’s tweet on Blast https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1806040646433522149  Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:46 Token unlocks creating market concerns 11:06 Unrealized gains to market cap ratio impact 13:06 Token supply manipulation tactics 21:11 How investors can verify token projects 24:21 Secondary market trading and unlock impacts 35:36 Current token launch strategy persistence 41:46 Short-term vs long-term project decisions 47:21 Time-based vs metric-based token unlocks 53:51 SEC investigations into VC practices 59:56 Bearish outlook for upcoming token unlocks 1:06:36 Investor risks in current cycle 1:13:11 Future of VCs in crypto and memecoins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    1h 24m
  5. 12/24/2024

    2024 Was Solana's Best Year Yet. Can It Sustain the Momentum in 2025?

    2024 has been a transformative year for Solana. With a surge in developer activity, bold innovations in DePIN, and its ambitions to become a “decentralized Nasdaq,” the ecosystem is making waves. But are these changes enough to differentiate it from competitors like Ethereum and L2 solutions such as Base? In this episode, Lily Liu, president of the Solana Foundation, and Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius, join Unchained to discuss how Solana is carving out its niche. They debate whether Base is a serious contender, why they’re not concerned about the 2025 token unlocks, and how Solana’s unique approach to MEV could shape its future. Plus, they tackle the ecosystem’s broader challenges and why they believe Solana’s vision will endure. Show highlights: Why Mert feels paranoid but also vindicated  Why Lily started working on Solana after being known as a hardcore bitcoiner How Mert’s background in Coinbase led him to found Helius and become the voice of Solana online Whether Solana can become a place where unique innovations are built, rather than copying Ethereum Whether Solana can achieve its vision of a “decentralized Nasdaq” Why the ecosystem has attracted so many developers in 2024  Why Lily believes that Base is no competitor to Solana What network extensions actually mean, according to Mert How Mert responds to the criticisms around Solana’s MEV Why Mert and Lily are not worried about the token unlocks of 2025 How the Solana mobile phone will compete with the giants Why DePIN showcases the real value of blockchain technology Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Kelp DAO Robinhood & Arbitrum Polkadot Guests: Lily Liu, President of the Solana Foundation Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius Links Unchained:  Pudgy Penguins See NFT Floor Price Drop Almost 50% After PENGU Launch -  Pump.fun Becomes First Solana DApp to Top $100M in Monthly Revenue How Solana Beat Out Ethereum to Nab New Crypto Developers in 2024 Are Solana's 'Network Extensions' Just Like Ethereum's Layer 2s But by a Different Name? What Are DePINs in Crypto? A Beginner’s Guide Timestamps:  00:00 Intro 02:34 Mert’s mix of paranoia and vindication about Solana 07:08 Why Lily shifted from Bitcoin to working on Solana 09:43 Mert’s journey from Coinbase to becoming Solana’s online advocate 14:47 Can Solana foster unique innovations rather than mimic Ethereum? 19:47 Solana’s vision of a “decentralized Nasdaq” vs. center of memecoin mania  27:54 What’s driving Solana’s surge in developer activity 30:26 Why Lily sees Base as no real competitor 33:04 The meaning and implications of network extensions 37:07 Mert’s take on criticisms of Solana’s MEV approach 42:11 Why they aren’t worried about the 2025 token unlocks 44:26 Competing with tech giants through the Solana mobile phone 50:48 How DePIN highlights blockchain’s true potential Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    57 min
  6. 12/20/2024

    Why Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev Is Betting Big on Crypto, Stablecoins, and Prediction Markets

    Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. In this episode of Unchained, Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev offers a rare glimpse into the company’s strategy. How did memes like Dogecoin become one of Robinhood’s biggest assets, onboarding millions of users? What drove its decision to embrace stablecoins, staking, and a dedicated crypto wallet—and what risks do these moves carry? As Europe’s MiCA regulations set the stage for a global crypto framework, Vlad discusses how Robinhood is positioning itself for growth, the role of prediction markets, and why blockchain could dramatically lower costs for investors. He also shares personal insights from his own experiences with hyperinflation, revealing how stablecoins might safeguard wealth for millions around the world. With crypto ETFs, regulatory shifts, and a new administration looming, here’s what he thinks is next for Robinhood—and the crypto industry. Show highlights: How Robinhood has been experiencing growth in the crypto retail market The effect of election night and Robinhood’s event contracts on trading volumes What Robinhood saw happened with the launch of spot ETFs in the U.S. How the exchange was able to attract crypto investors The role of MiCA in Robinhood allowing users to stake ETH and SOL How the company aims to enhance the user experience with the Robinhood wallet Why Robinhood decided to invest in Global Dollar Network, which has stablecoin USDG What’s on Vlad’s crypto regulation wish list under the new administration and Congress Whether the criteria to list crypto assets on Robinhood will change under a crypto-friendly Trump administration Why Vlad is so excited about prediction markets Why he sees blockchain technology as a tool that will ultimately help users Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Kelp DAO Guest Vlad Tenev, CEO of Robinhood Links Unchained: Why Robinhood, a TradFi Hub, Is Growing Its Crypto Business Globally Reuters: Robinhood's top attorney Gallagher rules out SEC chair role Robinhood Reports Third Quarter 2024 Results Robinhood to Acquire Bitstamp Spot Bitcoin ETF Options: Why You 'Can't Overstate' Their Importance The Legend Awakens: Introducing Robinhood Legend, Futures Trading, and Index Options Finimize: Robinhood, Kraken, And Partners Launch New Stablecoin USDG -  Decrypt: Robinhood Launches US Presidential Election Prediction Market—For Americans Only Timestamps  00:00 Intro 02:43 Robinhood’s growth in the crypto retail market 05:05 Election night’s surprising impact on trading volumes 07:11 What Robinhood observed after U.S. spot ETF launches 11:56 How the platform attracted millions of crypto investors 16:49 MiCA’s role in enabling ETH and SOL staking on Robinhood 19:09 Enhancing user experience with the Robinhood wallet 21:32 Why Robinhood is betting on stablecoins 25:37 Vlad’s crypto regulation wish list from the new administration 30:05 Will Robinhood change its crypto listing criteria? 32:18 Vlad’s excitement about prediction markets 36:12 How blockchain could lower costs and empower users 41:21 News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    54 min
  7. 12/19/2024

    The Chopping Block: 2025 Predictions, AI's Crypto Play, and U.S. Legislation

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this special end-of-year episode, they recap 2024's key moments and forecast what's ahead in 2025. The team debates Bitcoin's potential to hit $180K, the impact of AI on crypto security, and upcoming U.S. crypto legislation. They also predict the rise of viral blockchain games. Join the crew as they unpack these predictions and more, offering unique insights into what the new year might bring for crypto enthusiasts. Show highlights 🔹 Bitcoin Hits New Highs: The crew debates Bitcoin's potential to reach $180K, with predictions of a significant rally and subsequent corrections. 🔹 AI Turns Crypto Scammer: A bold prediction that an AI system will become a crypto scammer makes waves, highlighting the intersection of artificial intelligence and blockchain security concerns. 🔹 Crypto Legislation Breakthroughs: Anticipation grows for groundbreaking crypto-specific legislation in 2025, reflecting a major shift in regulatory landscapes. 🔹 Consolidation in Crypto's Infrastructure: Predictions surface about mergers among AppChains and Layer 2 solutions due to economic pressures, signaling a major consolidation trend. 🔹 Viral Blockchain Games: The panel foresees blockchain-based games going viral, capturing mainstream attention and potentially becoming a cultural phenomenon. 🔹 DeFi's Continued Evolution: Discussions center around DeFi's comeback, its impact on the crypto market, and the evolving challenges it faces as it grows in popularity and complexity. 🔹 Surprising Crypto Predictions for 2025: The episode wraps up with each host sharing their most surprising predictions for the coming year, setting the stage for a dynamic and unpredictable future in crypto. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Timestamps -  00:00 Intro 03:00 Biggest Winner 8:30 Biggest Loser 14:04 Biggest Surprise 20:50 Best New Mechanism 27:03 Best Meme 31:02 Best/Worst Pivot 38:57 Biggest Flop 44:08 Comeback Story of 2024 48:42 Favorite TCB Guest 51:18 Predictions for 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    1h 5m
  8. 12/18/2024

    Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Keeps Smashing All-Time Highs, and MSTR Joins the Big Leagues

    Bitcoin’s 2024 rally has been explosive, but is the next phase just beginning? In this episode of Bits + Bips, hosts Noelle Acheson, Ram Ahluwalia, and Alex Kruger are joined by Ledn’s Mauricio di Bartolomeo to unpack the forces shaping the crypto market as the year comes to a close. Mauricio explains how Ledn has grown amidst regulatory and economic shifts, and shares insights on why the “Trump put” is creating a new trading setup for crypto. The panel dissects the undercurrents behind Bitcoin’s surge, explores how MicroStrategy’s presence on the NASDAQ creates unique market dynamics, and debates how much higher BTC could climb. But they warn not to expect “buy” ratings on MSTR. Plus, they dive into why Solana underperformed in recent weeks, how Bitcoin enables capital flight (and how they may be happening from China), and what 2025 could hold for crypto. Packed with data, opinions, and a few book recommendations (well, except from Alex), this episode offers sharp analysis as 2024, a pivotal year for crypto, wraps up. Show highlights: Mauricio’s background and how Venezuela’s regime led him to crypto How Ledn works and how it’s seen substantial growth since the elections What’s driving this wave of growth in the price of bitcoin How much higher BTC will go and what the effects of the end-of-year portfolio rebalancing will be What the risks are for the U.S. economy How BTC is the easiest way to trade the Trump bump Whether the Chinese macro matters for crypto  How MicroStrategy has become a Trojan horse Why Alex likes XRP and ENA and why SOL has been underperforming recently 2024 wrap-up: what everyone was most surprised about  Book recommendations from everyone, except Alex, who’s only focused on shitcoins Hosts: Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Guest: Mauricio di Bartolomeo, cofounder & CSO of Ledn Links Unchained:  Bitcoin Hits New All-Time High MicroStrategy Joins Nasdaq-100, Expanding Bitcoin Exposure to Billions Trump’s Crypto Project Spent Nearly $45M Onchain in 2 Weeks FTX Distributions to Start in Under 2 Weeks Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:38 Mauricio’s journey from Venezuela to crypto 07:37 How Ledn thrived post-elections and saw major growth 15:16 Key drivers behind Bitcoin’s explosive rally 20:30 How high could BTC climb – and might year-end rebalancing affect the price? 25:22 Risks facing the U.S. economy heading into 2025 32:47 BTC as the go-to trade for the Trump bump 36:13 The significance of Chinese macro trends for crypto 47:32 MicroStrategy’s role as a Trojan horse for Bitcoin adoption 53:20 Why Alex likes XRP and ENA, but SOL is lagging 1:02:35 Biggest surprises from 2024’s crypto market 1:06:33 Book picks from everyone—except Alex, who’s all about shitcoins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    1h 10m
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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

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