Is this task a possible duplicate of T231783: [Regression] Move Flow boards is not possible for an admin on fawiki? Also, while I’m not certain, it seems like "fa:ویکی‌پدیا:درخواست راهنمایی/Flow" may have just been moved to that title (from "fa:ویکی‌پدیا:درخواست راهنمایی") as a result of T378827: Run Flow migration script at *Phase 1* wikis.

@kostajh, FYI, the files you've linked to are currently showing as restricted.

In T379380#10339005, @Pppery wrote:

IMO no.

I also think the old behavior was correct - it shouldn't be possible to create a page without a page creation log entry. But regardless of whose right this is the sort of edge case that won't cause any minor harm if we let it stay broken for an extra week.

Is it worth backporting this patch?

@Ammarpad Thanks for the patch :) Unless I’m missing something, is it just waiting for code review now?

Adding a comment here due to the patch in question being marked as a risky patch earlier in this task. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/1069665 may have unintentionally caused creation log entries to be generated when moving pages, when this wasn't previously the case -- see T377229#10306408 and T379380: Moving a page generates an unneeded page creation log entry.

I think https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/1069665/29/includes/page/MovePage.php might be causing creation log entries to be generated when moving pages, when such log entries weren't previously generated (see T379380: Moving a page generates an unneeded page creation log entry). I'm not sure whether or not this change was intentional - at an admittedly quick search, I can't find any comments to indicate it would be.

Judging by the fact that this behaviour started on enwiki on 7 November (this is the first such creation log entry I found), it looks like it was caused by something in the 1.44.0-wmf.2 release.

Might be a very minor thing, but is it worth backporting this fix for the benefit of people yet to vote in the enwiki admin elections?

I've noticed this happening, but - curiously - the 'empty state' message is only displaying on some talk pages with comments. To give a few examples, the notice appears for me at the bottom of Talk:Controversial Reddit communities, Talk:Eucalyptus leprophloia, Talk:Raf Simons & Talk:Broad Recognition; but not at the bottom of Talk:Florida Studio Theatre, Talk:Attica Bank, Talk:Furlana & Talk:Femi Oluwole
AFAIK, I do not have Parsoid enabled - my preference is set to 'according to wiki configuration'. I have also reproduced these results logged-out.

• The default edit summary, "Mass deletion of pages added by ..." doesn't exactly apply to talk pages - the page isn't added by this user, it's just a related page. What edit summary should we use for associated talk pages?

Looks like it might have done - I don't seem to be able to reproduce the issue anymore

I'm no longer getting the stream of errors I was earlier after enabling the Navigation Popups gadget, so it (crosses fingers) seems to be fixed for me :)

I think this should be filed under Navigation-Popups-Gadget - the errors occur for me when this gadget is enabled.

Apologies if this info is unnecessary/unhelpful, but I just received a 500 error attempting to load a thumbnail for this image, and thought I should copy it here in case it would be aid investigations (given the comment about the throttling masking the real error source).

@hnowlan I believe it did - I briefly saw a thumbnail myself at one point, and onwiki it was reported that "there were no issues when [the photo was put] in the original template" (ie. before it moved to the main page). Regarding the HTTP error code, at one point since filing this report I remember seeing a 500 (with the same Wikimedia error screen); however I'm afraid I didn't copy the full message. If it would be helpful, I can add the details here if I see a 500 again.

Should T205224 be reopened? By my understanding, that task was related to the Thanks extension itself, and this one was for enabling the ability on Wikimedia wikis. I might be missing something here, though.

Admittedly I’m inexperienced here (and so may well be missing something), but in T354858, I received 429 errors that do actually seem to be as a result of a technical problem (rather than the same client repeatedly making requests).

Adding SRE as from what I've read it seems like it might be a relevant team here. Apologies if this is incorrect.

A VisualEditor bug on enwiki (which, according to Special:Version, is currently running MW 1.42.0-wmf.12) that seems similar to this one was reported on the Wikimedia Community Discord today - "Revision IDs returned by the server do not match (document: 1194632572, metadata: 1194632654)" . I just wanted to drop a comment in here in case it's the same bug, and it turns out it hasn't been completely fixed. (I'm commenting rather than opening a new task as I don't personally have the information necessary to do so - but I thought that this bug report on Discord was worth noting, given that this was recently closed).

Noting for the sake of this bug report that what jpxg describes has also been happening to me (Safari on iOS). The only thing I’ve noticed that sometimes fixes it is repeatedly refreshing the page - which sometimes results in the section expanding correctly after one of the refreshes.

I’ve been having a very similar issue, but worth noting that for me, a refresh hasn’t always been fixing it on the first try. I’m using Safari on iPhone.