Talk:flag

Can we please get a better choice for the sample image of a flag? It would be better to remove the image, than to put a country or movement's flag there (since when is Wikimedia an advocate of Gay Pride?!) --Connel MacKenzie 22:25, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

I removed it and inserted the flag of Byzantium during the Palaiologos dynasty. Do you find it more appropriate? I also find the advocacy of peccatum contra naturam insolent in the Wikimedia realm. Bogorm 14:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I thought the original image better illustrated what a flag is, since it shows the flag fluttering in the wind. I do not share the original objector's disapproval of the use of a gay pride flag -- it made for a very colorful image. (If we really don't want to show favoritism to any country or movement, the row of flags fluttering in front of the UN building might also be suitable). -- WikiPedant 16:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

How about the flag of the Cretan Republic? It is the only historical flag which I found photographed and I like it. Bogorm 16:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good to me. More clearly a flag than the Byzantine e.g. -- WikiPedant 18:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Adjectival sense. rfv tag was added by User:Elkaar who forgot to add a section here. -- WikiPedant 19:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

delete Does not look like an adjective to me. The word "flag" only has this meaning (Of or pertaining to an admiral, commodore, or general officer) in combination with the word "officer", and we already have flag officer. Worse, it would be misleading, since there are flag captains as well. --Hekaheka 22:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

There's also flag rank, flag bridge, flag lieutenant, and flag plot at least, and googling those will yields sufficiently many citations. This is either an adjective or an attributive noun, but seems certainly to have the meaning specified ("of or pertaining to an admiral, commodore, or general officer"), or one like it.​—msh210℠ 19:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I have a strong suspicion that one can be a flag officer and not be on a ship in the contemporary navy as well as in Gilbert and Sullivan's navy, so the nautical definition of flag#Noun may not cover all uses of this.

But I also don't see this as being an adjective, as it doesn't seem to be gradable or comparable and can't appear as a predicate, AFAICT.

I would think that an actual designated military position, like flag lieutenant, would have a rationale for inclusion parallel to the legal/regulatory one for ground beef. DCDuring TALK 20:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Re gradability et al., fine, but then we're missing the noun sense, and this should be moved. Re "actual designated military position": I don't know that flag lieutenant is the official title: AFAIK it's just a job description. I could well be wrong, but w:flag lieutenant makes it seem like I'm not.​—msh210℠ 20:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

But the WP is for w:Aide-de-camp. One of the great things about working for the government is that your job description is almost always the subject of regulation (and therefore due process of law) and sometimes actual legislation. Ergo, #ground beef. Also, I'm not sure that there is a good way to write the nautical definition of flag so that it would adequately enable one to infer that a flag lieutenant was a personal assistant to an admiral (or captain?). All words and all that. But if it can be done, the possibly obsolete UK regs defining the position of "Flag Lieutenant" might be a thin basis for a "legal idiom". So long as we can't be seen as giving privileged treatment to academic linguists over military officers, we should be OK. DCDuring TALK 21:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps there is a law defining flag lieutenant in some country, but I can't find it at [1], [2], or [3].​—msh210℠ 22:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It appears to be at best dated as something official in the US (WWI). It appears as an appointment in the UK in the 19th century. We can leave it to a nautical antiquarian to enter and cite. About the other English-speaking navies, who knows? DCDuring TALK 23:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I'm going to delete it. 86.146.46.241 02:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC).

RFV failed, section removed. —Ruakh_TALK 16:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

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flag

Rfv-sense (academics) To fail a test or a course., anyone familiar with this usage? - TheDaveRoss 20:23, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Could it be someone's error for flunk? The problem with searching for "flagging students" etc. is that you find the other sense of flag, i.e. someone who is slowing down at their studies due to overwork or weariness. Equinox ◑ 02:05, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Some universities will ‘flag’ (sense 5) students who are doing badly in a given semester as a sort of warning that they’re on track to fail and need to shape up. See, for example, [4]. Perhaps sense 10 is an extension or misinterpretation of such a usage? — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 20:13, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:15, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

UN flag

Hi, @Surjection. IP editor made a good point. We should use a flag everyone can get behind. Why did you revert to the Cretan republic? I think the UN flag represents us all and is a good choice. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 07:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I'll change it back; I don't think the IP editor was here to contribute, though, but just to make a fuss about which flag is shown here. They've also been blocked on en.wp for disruptive editing. — surjection ⟨??⟩ 07:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

pronunciation

is "flague" really widespread? i see at bag we have a note that it can rhyme in Upper Midwestern accents, but thats a lot more restricted than attributing it to the whole of North America. —Soap— 10:06, 14 September 2022 (UTC)