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Seems to me that these 2 senses are identical.
- before noon
- during the time period each day between midnight and noon. 12:00 a.m. is used to refer to midnight. 12:00 p.m., while seemingly an oxymoron, is used to refer to noon.
If I hear nothing I will merge them. (the 2nd was added anonymously in March by someone who did nothing else). —Saltmarsh 11:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- The anonymous poster is an ignorant fool. If (s)he knew any Latin, (s)he would realise that "12 am" and "12 pm" are utterly meaningless. Respectively, they mean "12 before midday" and "12 after midday", which means that both refer to midnight!
- Incidentally, they might be contradictions, but they are certainly not oxymorons in the proper sense of the word. Deleting this nonsense and adding a usage note to this effect. — Paul G 15:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Can't believe no one has commented on this..
- Look at it this way: if you add seconds to the time, then any second after 12:00.00 is a.m./p.m. In other words, we have 12:00.00 noon is followed one second later by 12:00.01 p.m. Keep adding smaller increments of time, and one finds that only the instant the clock strikes 12 is actually noon, and every instant following is literally after noon, or p.m. So there is nothing wrong with saying 12:00 a.m./p.m.
- Another convention that eliminates all ambiguity is to refer to 12:00 simply as "noon" or "midnight," or even "12:00 noon" or "12:00 midnight" --Hikui87 14:26, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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Translations (and definitions, the usage notes, etc.) should be merged. J3133 (talk) 16:40, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support for the sake of deduplication. - excarnateSojourner (talk|contrib) 07:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- I think this is already
resolved as the translation boxes at AM and PM are just "see also" notices. Unless you want to merge the whole page, which I'd be against. —Soap— 09:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Soap: a.m. has a list of alternative forms, usage notes, and synonyms/antonyms. Either everything should be copied or merged. J3133 (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've changed the sense lines at PM and AM to
{{alt form}}, I can't see anything else that needs to be done. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 10:17, 9 September 2023 (UTC)- @Al-Muqanna: This was the point (to have a main entry); now resolved. J3133 (talk) 10:25, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've changed the sense lines at PM and AM to
- @Soap: a.m. has a list of alternative forms, usage notes, and synonyms/antonyms. Either everything should be copied or merged. J3133 (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
