Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/13 December 2005/User:Skinwalker

Issues with Skinwalker

Request made by (please sign below):

Canaen 07:56, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Status: New request

Where is the issue taking place?

My talk page occasionally, Talk:Veganism, and Skinwalker's talk page, particularly User talk:Skinwalker#Veganism RfC. It could soon spread to Environmental vegetarianism.

Who's involved?

Myself, Skinwalker. Very possibly Idelguy and Viriditas, though nto as of yet.

What's going on?

There's been quite a bit of nonsense going on at Veganism lately. I was absent for the article for quite awhile, and recently returned with a bit more permanence. It appears I returned at a rough time, fresh out of a recent protection. Disputed content was found, and removed until a discussion could take place (which didn't occur). Incessant reverting occurred, resulting in another protection of the page. Accusations arose between myself and another user. Then, one more came in supporting the other. In the process, Skinwalker decided decided to jump on the wagon, and make false accusations of myself, Nidara and several anonymous users. Finally, we (Francis, Nidara and Myself managed to organize a clear, proper consensus vote to get the page restored, and other users jumped in as well. Once this was near completion, Skinwalker came back, requesting an RfC before a request to remove the protection, and filed the request. I dated the request, and updated the status of the situation. Skinwalker then accused me of vandalism, and threatened to report me as a vandal. See [User talk:Skinwalker#Veganism_RfC] for that matter. All the while, he didn't contribute to the process of getting the article running again; he simple hindered it (from mine and others' positions, at least).

What would you like to change about that?

Frankly, I have a bit of fear instilled in me from the words of Skinwalker, past words, and of an apparently related group of users. I have every reason to believe that as soon as I make an attempt to report any of them for Wikicrimes, incivility, personal attacks, or harassment, they will instantly accuse me of the same (this has been done to me by them), and report me in kind. I'm not sure if any of them would be able to delete/hide my report while they do so. I'd like to be able to work on Veganism and Environmental vegetarianism without this harrassment. I dislike banning users; it doesn't usually help the encyclopedia. Everyone has something to contribute. I simply want peace. If there's nothing that can be done, I might be forced to attempt use of official paths, and I don't want that. I hope that the Mediation Cabal can help.

If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?

Yes, I think that would be best at present. My email is: uuconpunk at gmail.com I also use AIM frequently: anarchopunk17 As well, I am Canaen on freenode.IRC, and when I'm on I try to maintain a presence in the Wikipedia channel, though usually inactively.

Mediator response

Seems quiet, closing Dan100 (Talk) 15:55, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Comments by others

I would like to respond to these points. Canaen is currently blocked for making personal attacks and for orchestrating a meatpuppet campaign to eliminate criticism of veganism from the Veganism article. See his talk page, my talk page, and Talk:Veganism for details. Among other things, I have been called a liar, a snitch, and a "meat-eater activist". Idleguy's user page was vandalized with a threatening message advocating a "vegan jihad". I am in the process of filing a request for comment on his conduct, and I have already filed a request for comment on the Veganism article in an effort to break the deadlock. These accusations are baseless, and represent another instance of him harassing editors with whom he disagrees.

This user has refactored his talk page to move content critical of him, including administrator warnings, to a subpage labeled "nonsense". I am open to mediation, but I am not sure it will solve anything. This user is editing in bad faith. He interprets any criticism of himself or his views, no matter how polite, as a personal attack. The accusations that he makes above are baseless. I really resent the fact that he acts like he is somehow afraid of me, especially considering his behavior elsewhere. Any mediation that occurs must be between him, me, and the other parties that have been subject to personal attacks such as Idleguy, and must be done on the condition that all personal attacks and meatpuppetry have stopped. Regards, Skinwalker 22:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)