Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top of the Klass with Mylene Klass

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The result was delete. Courcelles 09:02, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Top of the Klass with Mylene Klass

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"Hilarious" joke article. Two non-linked "references" which don't exist, nor do any third-party mentions. Gr1st (talk) 09:20, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Delete - Whilst I'm adverse to saying references don't exist simply because they're not linked (they could've gotten them from a database the public doesn't have access to like Lexis Nexis), there doesn't actually appear to be anything to show notability. I was unable to find any significant coverage of this show, even from the BBC. If the original author would put quotes into the references showing context I might change my mind, but for now it's a delete. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 10:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong and Speedy Delete as a hoax Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 10:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no indication this is truthful. ~~ GB fan ~~ 12:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Straightforward hoax. --Hence Piano (talk) 14:08, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now. If it's a hoax, it's a very good one. Has all the hallmarks of a failed British TV show. Just look at that title card. It was removed from National Lottery (United Kingdom), along with another show, without explanation on 8 July 2010. I'm nowhere near convinced it's a fake. Rothorpe (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would expect there to be at least one mention, even in passing, somewhere in the British media, of a prime time Saturday-night BBC One TV show. Can anybody find one? Gr1st (talk) 17:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These folk also seem to agree it's a hoax, by the way. Gr1st (talk) 17:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going three ways in this one -- if it's a hoax orchestrated by the National Lottery, Klass and/or the BBC, then keep, ID-ing it as a hoax and catagorising under "Category:Hoaxes in the United Kingdom". If someone does find a tangible source testifying its existence, then also keep. If it's a rogue Wikipedia editor with clever writing and Photoshop skills, then Delete. -- azumanga (talk) 03:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as obvious hoax. Zero hits on Google News archive, Books or Scholar for "Top of the Klass" national lottery and about 250 on Google Web, characteristic of appearing in Wikipedia mirrors only. References are dud. Image was produced in Photoshop. What more can one say? Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as hoax. There's no mention of this show in the LexisNexis news archive, which includes both the newspapers cited as supposed sources. The article would be amusing if not for the false claims about a real person. EALacey (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The Yahoo group associated with UKGameshows.com issues a weekly listing of game show transmissions, and the group archives include the listings for the weeks in question, showing that the national lottery gameshow for all four weeks of Top Of The Klass' claimed run was Who Dares Wins. The show is also absent from the site itself - even if it lacked an article through some oversight, one would expect the show to be reviewed, or at the very least its cancellation to have been noted, in the weekly news column. [1] It isn't. Conclusion: no such show. --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 20:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The show existed but the information is not fully accurate. I worked on this series, and six episodes of Top of the Klass were made by Endemol for BBC Scotland. A number of the eposodes were shown but only in the Scottish region. My understanding was that Scottish viewers still got the live results from London, but saw Top of the Klass rather than Who Dares Wins. The description of the show is essentially correct: Myleene singing, constestants writing on blackboards and a final round where they had to 'light up' apples on Myleene's desk. All rather tacky and I believe based on a Dutch format... Dominicshentill (talk) 18:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Gsearching suggests hoax - virtually nothing there and absolutely nothing reliable. If it really existed (and someone actually put it on screen!), perhaps we should let it sink back into what would appear to be well-deserved oblivion. Mylene Klass's article here doesn't appear to mention it, which I can well understand. Peridon (talk) 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete complete and total hoax. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.