Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imhyre Kértez

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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 09:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Imhyre Kértez

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This article came from a longer unsourced article in the Spanish Wikipedia. I can't find sources about or mentioning Imhyre Kértez that don't copy information from Wikipedia or are reliable sources. This was made by an IP user in the Spanish Wikipedia, with probably no expansion since its edits. Also can't find anyone else with the Imhyre name. Perhaps checking with a genuine list of people who performed in the National Theatre in Warsaw historically or examining extra details in the other article could be ways to check if this person existed. TheGGoose (talk) 14:13, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• Delete. This article fails WP:V, and may well be a hoax. The original article in the Spanish Wikipedia includes additional paragraphs that read more like a ghost story. Among other alleged statements from the Spanish Wiki:
  • The subject and his family decided against fleeing to Argentina and instead hid inside a basement for months, only to run out of supplies when the German invasion and occupation lasted months longer than expected.
  • The scene suddenly shifts from the basement of the dwelling to the attic.
  • While nearing death, presumably by starvation (which supposedly occurred on Christmas 1939), the subject wrote texts on the walls of the attic about "the existence of God, human suffering, and nirvana."
  • Later, in 1942, a German official took over and remodeled the building, but a week after painting the walls, the subject's writing began to show through. The officer left the building saying that "strange things happen."
  • In 1948, a Polish entrepreneur (itself unlikely, under Communism) bought the building and discovered the text, compiling it and ordering 200 copies to be printed "in the Bünisthe Tulin" (a phrase not found anywhere else on Google). Because "other strange events were reported," residents closed down and preserved the attic.

No evidence to support any of this appears online. As noted above, "Imhyre" does not appear to be an authentic name; conceivably, the name could have been suggested by the actual Nobel laureate Imre Kertész. The original Spanish-language article was created in May 2004 by an IP with no other edits. Since in-depth fields of scholarly research have developed surrounding victims of the Nazis in World War II, it seems unthinkable that a story like this one (particularly since the subject was supposedly a prominent actor in Warsaw) would have totally escaped notice in reliable sources. Likewise, no references exist for the subject's writings, the preservation of the building or even the location where the events allegedly took place. Counting the Spanish-language version, this appears to be the longest-lived known hoax on Wikipedia. Calamondin12 (talk) 17:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

• Delete as there's simply asolutely nothing and searches found nothing. I'm a Spanish speaker so I would've found good sources and what is also interesting is that he was Hungarian-Spanish and yet no apparent sources from either side and thw IP was from Buenos Aires, Argentina (unless they were traveling, that's quite far from both Hungary and Spain) and no further edits which is not helping their case. Pinging user who added and translated RichardMills65. SwisterTwister talk 18:09, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm including a quick link to the article's Spanish-language Wikipedia version for anyone interested to view. Calamondin12 (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
• Comment I just tagged it for G3, so this article should banish soon based on the discussion. I'm curious if the Spanish article will be deleted as well, and if the list of hoaxes can include hoaxes on from non-English Wikipedias. TheGGoose (talk) 17:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
• Delete: per nom. I also see that the article creator, User talk:emijrp, has a long history of translating non-notable stubs from other Wikipedias. Ravenswing 21:52, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
• Speedy delete it's clearly a hoax Kraxler (talk) 16:07, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
• Delete - not sure if it's a hoax... but if it is it's not a notable hoax. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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