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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 04:04, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Francisco Cano

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Non-notable; reads like a resume/CV. Rinne na dTrosc (talk) 01:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep As the article was hijacked last year from its original subject to an apparently completely non-notable one, I have taken the liberty of redirecting it to the last version previous to the hijacking. That version has very little content and no references, but a quick Google search shows several apparent sources (albeit mostly apparently inaccessible online), so it should be improvable to demonstrate notability. This would not be appropriate for a BLP, but the actual subject has been dead for over four centuries. I would suggest that the revisions during the hijack period should be REVDELLED immediately after the closure of this AfD. PWilkinson (talk) 22:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete Unless at least one source is provided. At present, how do we know it isn't a hoax?John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC) [reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 01:00, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Rolling back is pointless, since that content is unreferenced. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:10, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, possibly even speedy delete per A7. No dates, no references, no real details. How do we even know if he's real? Even if he is, just being a conquistador isn't enough. Juan Cano is enough. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Can't find any evidence this conquistador exists Shii (tock) 14:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep I found some more information in Codex Chimalpahin. Themane2 (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Not a hoax; GBooks turns up multiple references to Francisco Cano, especially in connection with his use, in the year 1568, of the term "New Mexico", possibly the first time anyone used this term (although Cano was using it to refer to an area near Torreón, not the modern New Mexico). See e.g. [1][2]. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:03, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • When you Google the primary source, "Testimonio del descubrimiento y posesión de la Laguna del Nuevo México", it seems that the literature on this is rather weak Shii (tock) 20:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There is some good information on this individual. He as a lieutenant major of Mazpil in the 1560s which probably makes him at least somewhat notable. We have a fair amount of information about him and I think I can expand the article to at least a decent level. There are some dates we can add the article and we have his family's names as well. In the next few weeks I think we can get this article in decent shape. I'd be willing to contribute as much as I can. Themane2 (talk) 21:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So to supplement this artcile we might need to create an English language page for Mazapil, there is a Spanish page for it. It appears to be small city in Zacatecas, Mexico. Themane2 (talk) 21:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Rather than saving this article, let's merge the meager content into that article and create something interesting about the place Shii (tock) 22:10, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Eh the two things have little to do with each other than the fact Cano was a leader in the area. It would be like merging Bill De Blasio and New York City. Kind of ridiculous. Theres a large amount of information on this guy. In fact honestly his notability has to do with land claims and army service not the area itself. Themane2 (talk) 22:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The additional information and sources help the article. Although I have to admit that I am not 100% sure we need it to be as long as it is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:52, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per sources added. –Davey2010 • (talk) 22:45, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JayJayWhat did I do? 20:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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