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Administrators' newsletter – February 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:29, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Transclusion

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Resolved
 – BattyBot 2 bugs fixed.

Hi there! I see you recently updated Help:Transclusion, but now it's categorized in Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word because of one or more {{PAGENAME}} templates. Could you please tweak the code to prevent the categorization? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

: Busy doing it now thanks to you, thanks for the heads up! waddie96 ★ (talk) 11:02, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Needs discussion: I just reviewed all edits to Help:Transclusion going back to 16 August 2024, before my first edit, as seen in this diff. The only changes I left behind were minor cleanup of leftover HTML, which I have since removed. I couldn’t find anything that matches what you were referring to.
From what I can tell, it looks like BattyBot made incorrect 'corrections', mistakenly assuming that this {{Pagename}} (which as source code appears as: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{Pagename}}</syntaxhighlight> ) is a template calling a parser function, rather than examples of transclusion which make use of placeholder text called Pagename surrounded in curly brackets but also nested in <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> so WikiMedia software does not treat it as an actual template call.
The placeholder text Pagename aligns with Wikipedia’s existing terminology, such as WP:Pagename, and it is the best fit for use in example source code since it represents where the actual pagename should be placed when the example source code is copied and used, or just when the page text like a help page is being learnt from. Additionally, Pagename has been used consistently as a placeholder to illustrate where a pagename would typically go in the syntax even as far back as in a random version in July 2016. Therefore, I do not think it needs to be changed or altered.
So this raises the question of why BattyBot only came to fix this incorrect assumption after my latest round of edits, when this has existed on this page since July 2016 and when it fixed the 'problems' it replaced all occurences and not just that which I inserted recently? In addition, it makes one wonder what trigerred its action now?
  1. Is it a change in BattyBot's code that no longer or never did recognise this "erroneous use" per se as okay since it's nested in </syntaxhighlight> and therefore not executed (i.e., not parsing and ensuring to skip that which is correctly nested in </syntaxhighlight> or <nowiki>...</nowiki>); or,
  2. Was there a change in the way articles are categorized into Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word and this was an erroneous addition to that category, and that was followed by BattyBot doing its usual job; or,
  3. Were my edits carried out this time in a way that triggered either one of the previous behaviours through no fault of either, but a bug to be fixed still? or,
  4. Am I missing something?
  Regardless of the cause of the 'incorrect correction', I still think there's a bug in BattyBot worth fixing: That which is nested in </syntaxhighlight> (no need for <nowiki>...</nowiki> with the former), or </nowiki> alone, will not be treated as an actual template call by MediaWiki software and does not need to be fixed. waddie96 ★ (talk) 12:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GoingBatty waddie96 ★ (talk) 12:53, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that BattyBot should not have edited the page, which is why I quickly reverted the edit before contacting you. It appears you kindly fixed the issue with this edit, so the page is no longer in Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word (while the previous version of the page does show that category). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:04, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah so the reason for the page to be auto-categorised into Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word is because of that lonewolf misplaced wikitext I left behind and forgot to cleanup:
For example: <nowiki><syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"></nowiki>{{Pagename|parameter1|parameter2|parameter3|named parameter1=parameter4}}<nowiki><syntaxhighlight> will work, but</nowiki>
which outputed:
For example: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">Parameter1<syntaxhighlight> will work, but
and actually did call for a magic word in a template, viz.: {{Pagename|parameter1|parameter2|parameter3|named parameter1=parameter4}}.
So rightly so it was placed in the Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word category.
But, I'm emphasising this on purpose, BattyBot did not go and fix the problem instance at all! It went and erroneously 'fixed' five instances in this diff of correctly used Pagename (as described in my previous comment in detail above) nested in syntaxhighlight tags so they do not execute, but not the actual problem one... So it did not function as it was supposed to.
So this to me says the issue is with BattyBot and further validates the existence of the bug as mentioned above in BattyBot, an additional bug, and that fixing both will be worth-while. The additional bug is somehow it didn't see the abovementioned template call of a magic word and correct it, I suspect because it has parameters and it's possible BattyBot doesn't parse for template calls of magic words containing parameters? This is now in addition to not parsing for template calls that are nested in </syntaxhighlight> or </nowiki>. waddie96 ★ (talk) 09:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To summarize BattyBot to-fix list (or bugs):
  • When parsing for use of a template in place of a magic word, to exclude template calls of magic words which are nested in <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> or nested in <code><nowiki>...</nowiki></code> or <nowiki>...</nowiki>.
  • Add ability to parse for template calls of magic words containing parameters.
waddie96 ★ (talk) 09:46, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GoingBatty waddie96 ★ (talk) 10:06, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that I just shouldn't run the bot on Help pages, but instead fix the page manually or contact the person who last edited it. GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I believe I've fixed it. I ran the bot against Help:Transclusion and noticed it wanted to make the same incorrect "fix", and I did NOT save the change. I then checked the box in AWB that says "Ignore external/Interwiki links, images, nowiki, math, <!-- -->" in the find/replace rules and ran the bot against Help:Transclusion, and the bot no longer makes the incorrect change. So NOT running the bot against Help pages combined with the new configuration should prevent my bot from making incorrect changes in the future. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:29, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! I'm glad to hear I could have helped sort it out. waddie96 ★ (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Plans for Template:ContentGrid and Template:InfoCard?

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Do you have plans to use {{ContentGrid}} or {{InfoCard}} somewhere? We don't usually keep unused pages in template space. You are welcome to move it to your User space if you are experimenting with it. Please don't create any more unused templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, was experimenting, not useful for now, will tag for deletion. waddie96 ★ (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95  Marked for deletion waddie96 ★ (talk) 23:39, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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