User talk:Uzume

Java articles

Thanks for the work on the Java articles. I had a lot of the cleanup you've done on my "to do" list. – Doug Bell ^{talk•contrib} 23:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

References columns width

I've undone the change you made here to the width of the columns in Apple Inc.'s references section. For those of use whose displays are less than 1500 pixels across (i.e. most editors), this change reduced a list of over a hundred references to a single column. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 14:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

KVIrc

Hi! I've noticed that you have redirected the KVIrc page to the comparison of IRC clients. For sure it's better than before :) I have worked on the article in my sandbox in order to add verifiability and notability sources. I have also started some discussions about the previous removal here. The user that removed the page in the first instance doesn't seem to be very active so I can't get much feedback. Would you mind taking a look and eventually commenting on this ? Pragma2 (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I already noticed your sandbox and was actually considering adding content to it already. I shall take a closer look at the comment thread you mention. Thanks for stopping by. Uzume (talk) 06:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Text no longer wrapping in {{Beyond the Standard Model}}

I think this might be related to your recent changes to {{Sidebar}} or {{Sidebar with collapsible lists}}. Is there a change we need to make in {{Beyond the Standard Model}} to have this work correctly? Thanks, Celestra (talk) 03:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry. I spent time and looked at this (including previewing that template with various sandbox version of the sidebars, etc.) but I am unable to figure out what text was wrapping before. None of the edits I did to those templates was related to wrapping. {{sidebar}} states in the documentation that nowrap is turned on by default and on the talk page there is some discussion about someone adding an option to turn that off and how dubious it was to have it on by default to begin with. Maybe I cannot see it due to my browser or screen size or something but perhaps you can try: |wraplinks=true. I hope this helps. Uzume (talk) 06:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it. I didn't mean to cause you so much effort; I was hoping you would just know the answer. I'll see if I can reproduce the wrapping by going back to the state of the templates on the day I worked the edit request. If anything interesting comes out of it, I'll let you know. Thanks again, Celestra (talk) 07:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: ActivePerl

Hello Uzume. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of ActivePerl, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I think this move could do with some more discussion. Could you file a requested move? Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 16:33, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, Uzume. Please don't edit other people's user pages, like you did on User:Dajnel. User's are generally allowed full discretion over how to format and organize their pages, so you shouldn't be altering templates or formatting on them. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I assume you mean User:Danjel since there is no such page User:Dajnel. The user is free to update/revert anything there of course. Uzume (talk) 13:35, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I did mean Danjel. Again, though, you shouldn't under any circumstances be editing another user's user page, unless it's to remove vandalism, to fix some other policy problem (like removing copyright violations), or if they specifically ask you. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I suppose you should not revert any edits there then unless you specifically know the edit was not asked for by the user either since reverts are technically an edit too. Uzume (talk) 13:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

In the absence of evidence on the user talk page, a revert is correct...especially since I could tell that you were "fixing" the way they had formatted their external links. Is there some reason why you're fighting on this issue? All you need to do is not edit other user's user pages. I don't see the harm in this widely accepted prohibition. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I was not trying to fix any external links. Rather I was trying to update/disambiguate .NET Messenger Service to Microsoft Messenger service since the article moved (based on Microsoft's change in the naming of the service). I am not sure why you think I am "fighting" anything. I was only responding to your comments on my talk page. I am well aware of Wikipedia policy having been around more than four years before you even. WP:UP#OWN (and more specifically WP:NOBAN) say nothing about one should not edit other user's pages and in fact says it can be done if the edit is considered helpful as I felt mine was. Uzume (talk) 14:10, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Nested virtualization

Hello, Uzmue

I wanted to drop you a note about this edit but hope this note don't turn out impolite, because I am in a hurry. I am afraid your edit does not correspond to our rules and policies. Let's see why.

First, Search engine test is one the most famous invalid reasons for an edit. Number of Google hits (or Bing hits) for a search results does not replace the need for a source. If there are valid results there, it is you who should "take your pick"; and please be careful that your pick conforms to the requirements of Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Remember, contents without a reliable source are challenged or removed. That is our policy.

Second, "there is a redirect to it". Given the fact that the redirect is created by none other than you yourself, a bad redirect does not satisfy the source requirements nor warrants adding contents to the wrong article. This problem is easy to fix: Contribute the contents to the correct article (with source, of course) and then change the redirect to that article.

Finally, have you studied WP:BRD or WP:EW articles? Please do so.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure the edit does not correspond to our rules and policies (though I agree a source would be useful not all contributions require one, e.g., I do not need to cite grammar to contribute to an article's grammatical accuracy; in many cases it does not make sense). For one, neither of us has entered into WP:EW (and yes, I have read and even helped participate the in development of those--you will note my earliest edits on this account go back to early 2004) territory yet. WP:BRD recommends ones own bold edit over just reverting and further discussing on the article's talk page--neither of which either of us did. I did no worse (nor admittedly better) as I just reverted your edit. You admit you are hurried but I find the worst edits are made by people in a hurry (and the most common are reversions as they are "easy" but not necessarily right; you probably should have just added {{Citation needed}} instead of reverting and removing the content). In any event, as per WP:BRD, I have now found a potentially "Most Interested Person". In that light, I recommend you do what you should have done in the first place and move such discussion to the article's talk page (if you are not interested in the topic you shouldn't make edits including reversions unless you believe them to be vandalism or spam, etc.). I have taken the initiative: Talk:Virtualization#Nested virtualization. Thanks, Uzume (talk) 14:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello. My friend, if I wanted to accuse you of edit warring or violation of BRD, I would have said so directly. I didn't say so; hence, I believe you didn't edit-war.

I also agree that not everything needs a source. WP:V has elaborated on what needs source and what doesn't. A far-fetched claim like "nested virtualization" definitely needs source. (Virtual machine inside virtual machine? Seriously...)

As for the use of {{citation needed}}, I go by Jimmy Wales' advice:

There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative "I heard it somewhere" pseudo information is to be tagged with a "needs a cite" tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced.

— Jimmy Wales, Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 14:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

If you agree not everything needs a source why did you revert my contribution with the comment "All contributions need a source; a reliable one"? Yes, I agree. It seems far-fetched to need a source with regards to nested virtualization as it is just a virtual machine inside a virtual machine concept (recursion of the virtualization concept). That said, you reverted my contributions to the topic twice now so evidently you seem to want a source for that. If not, perhaps you can clarify why you have removed the content repeatedly.

As for Wales concept of aggressively removing obscure content, I am not in argument but it does not take much work to check if a topic is obscure enough to barely meet the "I heard it somewhere" level. With 27K+ hits on Google, I would say it is not obscure enough to meet the aggressive removal level. If that is the case then it should not be aggressively removed and becomes harder to determine if it should be removed and that is where reliable (and not just lots of) sources come into play. You will note even Jimmy Wales qualifies his assertion with further comment:

If you see an unsourced statement that would be libel if false, and it makes you feel suspicious enough to want to tag it as {{citation needed}}, please do not do that! Please just remove the statement and ask a question on the talk page.

— Jimmy Wales, Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information

Based on this you can see his original comment was in reference to WP:BLP (where "libel" can come into play). Also notice this reply was in direct response to "Seems like perfectly straightforward collaborative editing to me, dividing labor between proofreading and doing the actual problem-fixing work." Jimmy appears to agree with this saying "There is nothing wrong with this". Blindly reverting the addition of content is just as bad as blindly adding content. I see your edits as prohibitive with respect to division of labor between contributing content, proofreading and providing reliable sources (which is part of "problem-fixing").

If you are not interested in the content enough to qualify as a "Most Interested Person", that only underscores the need for you to not remove content you have not researched. I have provided considerable substance for including "nested virtualization" content on the aforementioned article's talk page. If you still dispute or otherwise are interested in discussing the matter please reply there. If you are not, please revert your edit removing the content I added so I can continue to develop it without repeated reverts that makes me approach edit warring territory. Thank you. Uzume (talk) 17:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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rvv as edit summary

Hi, re this edit - please note that "rvv" is generally understood to mean "revert vandalism", and I'm pretty sure you weren't doing that. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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I am not sure what you are talking about. I just created a redirect. I highly doubt there is any history worth mentioning (much less keeping) there. Uzume (talk) 16:06, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for your reply at the RfD! I hope I didn't come off as mean or demeaning; you're doing good work, and I appreciate your input in the discussion. You definitely understand how redlinks work. I had misunderstood what you meant by "I fail to see how deleting a redirect encourages anyone to write an article" and didn't stop to check your userpage. So it was stupidity not malice on my part :) Wug·a·po·des​ 06:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

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I believe my interest in such is a given considering the request I made (and was denied) less than five months ago: Special:PermanentLink/916510280 —Uzume (talk) 02:31, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I was not aware of that request — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:00, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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@Godsy: I am not sure how you determined I was an interested party but thanks for the heads-up. —Uzume (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

You created WDQ (identifier), one of the three redirects listed in that group nomination. Warmest regards, — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 22:02, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:AC with 41 elements

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:AC with 40 elements

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Changes to Module:Wd

Just letting you know that some scope changes you made to Module:Wd broke the module, as seen on BBC. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:11, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@ElijahPepe: I don't see any issues (on BBC or otherwise)—perhaps you'd care to point out what you are talking about? Thanks, —Uzume (talk) 02:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@Uzume: Take a look at the infobox. The website field uses Template:Official URL, which itself uses this module. What's returned is some sort of HTML for Scribunto errors which references line 161 of Module:Wd. Seems like there might be a forward declaration error there. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:29, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@ElijahPepe: That is odd. If I add *"{{Official URL}}" after the infobox and preview the issues goes away. —Uzume (talk) 02:39, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@ElijahPepe: I may have fixed it now. Thanks for the report .—Uzume (talk) 03:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

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@MSGJ: Yes, I was not too pleased by that either but that is the nature of the beast when a module starts generating errors due to changes in a different module (related to scope of variables). If you'd prefer, in the future I can just leave it broken for others to fix. Sadly, these are not the types of changes that can be easily tested in a sandbox. —Uzume (talk) 14:26, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Of course it is possible to test code in the sandbox first. If you are unable or unwilling to do this, then you really should not be editing high-use templates and modules. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:43, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Uzume, I noticed three error messages in these search results. After some time I noticed you changed the Module:Wd. I don't understand in detail what happened, but the time the errors appeared matches the time of the changes on the modul, so I suppose there is a connection. --Kallichore (talk) 14:44, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@Kallichore: I do not see any errors in those quoted search results and I believe that issue was already reported by ElijahPepe and has been corrected. Thank you, —Uzume (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the errors don't appear anymore. I don't know who fixed the problem, but thanks anyway. --Kallichore (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@Kallichore: The problem was fixed before your report and you were likely just seeing issues leftover in the page caching. Try doing a WP:NULLEDIT to flush them. —Uzume (talk) 15:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

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Template:Cite/doc

Hello, Uzume,

This is not an obvious candidate for speedy deletion as it seems like a valid redirect with an existing target page. If you believe it should be deleted, could you make a request of an administrator who works with templates, like those who participate at TFD? I just patrol CSD categories and I don't believe it met CSD criteria but then, I don't do much work with templates. An admin who does, would know for sure but they do not patrol speedy deletion categories to review tagged pages. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: The redirect itself is valid but reason for the page is to be documentation for the base template which is no longer really a template as it is now a redirect itself so any would be documentation even redirected is useless. It is an orphaned template /doc page (redirect or not). —Uzume (talk) 01:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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@Schützenpanzer: {{prod2}} seemed more appropriate. Thank you, —Uzume (talk) 04:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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JAMstack

Was there a discussion somewhere about renaming Jamstack to JAMstack? Per MOS:TM, articles are titled using sentence case. I don't want to revert the move without talking to you first, but this is clearly incorrect. – bradv 22:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I am not aware of any. I just decided to be WP:Bold. That said I do not think "sentence case" applies in this case as JAM is clearly an abbreviated acronym (and if you applied that to all the capitalized acronyms on the wiki that would be a very different thing.). I am not against you reverting if you feel strongly about it though. —Uzume (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you have any examples of other articles named this way? – bradv 23:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

As MOS:ACRO? Well in line with this particular article, a large pile of such can be found at Solution stack#Examples, e.g.: LAMP (software bundle), LYME (software bundle), LYCE (software bundle), MAMP, WAMP, WIMP (software bundle), MEAN (solution stack), MERN, XAMPP, XRX (web application architecture). I am sure there are plenty more MOS:ACRO at other places that are not solution stacks, etc., e.g.: IBM, NATO, etc. As for the mixed case, how about Overview of RESTful API Description Languages (which I personally believe is incorrectly named but I am not sure I would change the "RESTful" part)? Is that what you are asking? —Uzume (talk) 04:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)