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Philippine jade culture cleanup

Following up here absent a better location, hope that's okay. Given the AfD, it seems likely that it's worth cleaning up other mentions before relevant data gets lost in the noise. Based on the post-AfD delinkings, issues may exist at Template:Neolithic, Template:Former and present states in the Philippines, Template:History of the Philippines, Prehistory of the Philippines, Philippines–Vietnam relations, Philippines–Thailand relations, Economic history of Taiwan, Prehistory of Taiwan, Lingling-o, Xitu, Brunei–Philippines relations, 21st Century Maritime Silk Road, Malaysia–Philippines relations, Timeline of maritime migration and exploration, Batangas, Ancient history, History of Indonesia, History of Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia, Template:Ancient seafaring/sandbox, Maritime timeline, Timeline of international trade, Template:Ancient seafaring, and Template:History of the Philippines/sandbox. Based on your research, is it the concept of a "maritime jade road" as a whole questionable, or just the specific question of a distinct Philippine "jade culture"? CMD (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CMD Thanks for compiling this list. The term "Philippine jade culture" is, as far as I see, entirely unverified to this day. However, as the IP pointed out, some parts of the article are based on real archeological finds in Taiwan and the Philippines, and some of these sites/finds might be notable (such as lingling-o). It is only the grossly exaggerated importance of this topic/connection and the specific phrase "Philippine jade culture" that is invented.

I believe the entire concept of a "maritime jade road" is questionable, but I have not done as thorough a search here. The evidence I presented at the AfD is conclusive in showing that before it was spammed all over Wikipedia in 2021 there were zero sources on this term, scholarly or otherwise. I fear that any coverage from afterwards may be citogenesis, but I have not yet done a thorough check of post-2021 sourcing, so I'm not sure. It might be that the spammers were researchers promoting some soon-to-be-published idea that has since gained scholarly consensus. (Unlikely, but I haven't checked.)

I am currently fairly busy in real life over the next two weeks, but I hope to write up a well-sourced, verifiable replacement for the "maritime jade road" boilerplate that was dropped all over the wiki, before systematically replacing all mentions of the term, or removing them if undue. This will require some research, though, and my offwiki commitments mean I will likely only get around to this by early February. If you are able to do this before then I will be very grateful. Toadspike [Talk] 22:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very much not sold on a liberal use of very recent academic scholarship which has not had time to be tested well within academia. There are repeated issues with for example recent genetic history studies being added to Philippine-related articles in a somewhat overinterpreted fashion. In other Philippine news an ongoing court case is undermining the very core of a couple of articles I've written and I'm procrastinating from addressing this in my en.wiki-related time. At a quick google scholar search "maritime jade road" brings up literally 8 hits, all of which seem to be incidental background mentions, one of which is even "I came across a mention of a Maritime Jade Road that dates back to 3000 bce. I would have liked to learn more about this ancient jade trading route, but it was not covered further in the following chapters." CMD (talk) 01:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware that there were issues with scholarly sources in this field, that's good to know. I guess I'll just remove all mentions of this concept without replacement, then. Toadspike [Talk] 09:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with the use on en.wiki certainly. There has been an editor going on a massive cleanup spree over the past few weeks, thankfully. I would suggest that if there is something to add, it won't come without the complete ground-up replacement you mention. CMD (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cleared the templates. The Philippines-X relations articles seem to be mentions of "Jade artifacts manufactured in the Philippines using raw Jade from Taiwan were exported to X" with offline sources, I'll have another look around but based on the discussions it might be best to remove, and readd if a better summary can be developed. CMD (talk) 10:44, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Macarane on User talk:41.116.46.20 (03:55, 20 January 2025)

Hello what do I need to start doing IT? --Macarane (talk) 03:55, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Macarane What kind of IT would you like to do? I'm not super knowledgeable about this, but I believe most coding on Wikipedia is done with Lua, maybe that page has some pointers for you? Toadspike [Talk] 08:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Query re page move procedure

Just a quick query. I'm not particularly familiar with the procedure here. Given that you've contested my Astronomical catalog page move,

is the next step for me to transfer the request to the talk page, and if so,
does using the discuss button copy the existing discussion over to there, or will I be effectively starting afresh?

The instructions on the technical requests page don't seem necessarily to match what I see people doing there, namely leaving the requests there for open discussion, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks in advance. Musiconeologist (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Musiconeologist Yes, clicking the "discuss" link after your request will automatically open a move discussion for you. Requests "left for open discussion" on the Technical Requests page will not result in moves unless a move discussion (RM) is opened on the article talk page – after a few days contested requests get archived automatically. Toadspike [Talk] 08:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

Hello, Toadspike. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

Wikipedia:Requested moves
Category:Requested moves, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:07, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :)

Hi Toadspike, it was a good question, thanks for asking – and to Sennecaster for noticing. I had already thought about this ([1]) but it was lost in implementation. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from KLDrin (22:21, 30 January 2025)

How can I change the map image on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Garden_Banks_National_Marine_Sanctuary page?

It's in an Info Box that says I do not have permission, but the map is out of date. --KLDrin (talk) 22:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@KLDrin Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you'll stick around. That article is not protected, so it shouldn't require any special permissions to edit. The map image itself is on Wikimedia Commons here. If you want to replace it with a different image, I suggest you find one that complies with the Commons license requirements (basically, a public domain or Creative Commons-licensed image) and upload it at commons:Special:UploadWizard. Then, you can add it to the infobox by replacing | photo = Flower Gardens NMS map.jpg in the infobox code with the name of the new file. Toadspike [Talk] 22:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That worked. KLDrin (talk) 22:55, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Julier Pass

On 4 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julier Pass, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the peak of the Julier Pass, 2,284 metres (7,493 ft) above sea level, is flanked by two ancient Roman columns (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julier Pass. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Julier Pass), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 30,833 views (1,284.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of February 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to Toadspike for accumulating at least 25 points during the January 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 16,000+ articles and 14,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 19,791.2 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ashish Dataintelo (09:37, 14 February 2025)

Hello Mentor,

Waned to create pages of my Organization Dataintelo. Please help me out for this. --Ashish Dataintelo (talk) 09:37, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ashish Dataintelo Please read this guide. You need to be careful, as you have a conflict of interest, which will make it difficult to write a neutral article about your organization. Toadspike [Talk] 18:09, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ousmaneabubakar1 on Wikipedia:Sandbox (21:09, 15 February 2025)

How create article? --Ousmaneabubakar1 (talk) 21:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ousmaneabubakar1 See Your first article for the full instructions. For the short answer, find three good sources about the topic, then create a draft article by going through the steps at the article wizard. Toadspike [Talk] 22:25, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shree Abhiram Krupa (08:11, 16 February 2025)

How can I put an information about A philosopher --Shree Abhiram Krupa (talk) 08:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Shree Abhiram Krupa Go to the philosopher's article and click "Edit" in the top right corner of your screen. Toadspike [Talk] 12:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]