Talk:Unethical human experimentation

Unethical human experimentation as well as barbaric mentality

This may not be a forum, but Medicine was not born in WW II 1940 - 1945. This war was premeditated and certainly not the first war in mankind to have experienced the wounds of war. Certainly gangrene had already been heard of before 1940; a wound had certainly been treated before in war amputees have occurred, siemese twins born ( really, did they actually think they could sew them together and create the same thing, oh brother). so why the ignorance in WWII from these countries? And why spend time with such barbaric unsophisticated methods of attempting to figure out a solution in medicine under such dire circumstances; when in fact there is medical knowledge and applications that already exist. Maybe bone graffs had not been discovered, but who in their right mind could think a successful bone transplant or graft could even attempt to come into fruitation with starved; beaten, prisoners and moreover leaving the operation unattended in filthy, uninhabitable conditions. We're they cavemen? In fact, who in a war would have any extra medical staff to do experiments on prisoners, with thousands injured in the war itself they are fighting? I would think all medical staff would be used to keep their soldiers alive. To be so naive to think you could make a discovery on a prisoners in such inhumane and tortuous, filthy conditions during the war of 4 years, seems barbaric. From these stories I read in Wikipedia and from this woman author who lives in Switzerland writing novels about these unethical practices, it appears these countries were very unsophisticated and way behind the times in medicine. Did they not learn anything in medicine from WW I or any of the other previous wars these countries or empires have been in since the beginning of time? Why not investigate why it was done in the first place and expose their ignorance and barbarianism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.185.248 (talk) 03:22, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

While I am not aware of their actual goals, in some cases they apparently hoped to achieve medical breakthroughs through the experimentation. But their methods of doing so were not just unethical but irrational and highly impractical. From the article on Josef Mengele:

"Mengele's experiments with eyes included attempts to change eye color by injecting chemicals into the eyes of living subjects and killing people with heterochromatic eyes so that the eyes could be removed and sent to Berlin for study. His experiments on dwarfs and people with physical abnormalities included taking physical measurements, drawing blood, extracting healthy teeth, and treatment with unnecessary drugs and X-rays. Many of the victims were sent to the gas chambers after about two weeks, and their skeletons were sent to Berlin for further study. Mengele sought out pregnant women, on whom he would perform experiments before sending them to the gas chambers. Witness Vera Alexander described how he sewed two Romani twins together back to back in an attempt to create conjoined twins. The children died of gangrene after several days of suffering." Dimadick (talk) 11:08, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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I modified the short description from "Human experimentation that violates the principles of medical ethics" to "Human experimentation that violates ethical principles". But the article title is mostly self-explanatory and the short description essentially contains the article title. So what's the best way to do this? ScienceFlyer (talk) 17:48, 28 August 2023 (UTC)