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Russia launches drone attacks on Kyiv and Odesa, Ukraine. The Odesa attack targets medical facilities and residential buildings, killing two people and injuring thirteen others. (BBC)
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Weak Support Ideally the article length should be a bit longer. But I think it meets our customary standards in terms of article quality, if barely. I am presuming it will expand as more details become available. The event itself is shocking for Europe where gun crime is rare. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Indian Coast Guard rescues 18 crew members from a Singaporean-flagged container ship after it catches fire following an explosion 144 km (89 mi) off the coast of Kerala, India. Search operations are underway for the missing four crew members. (DW)
A court in Prague, Czech Republic, sentences a Colombian national to eight years in prison over a 2024 arson attack on public buses and for planning another similar attack. Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala says the arson attack is part of Russia’s hybrid war against his country. (AP)
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Comment Sly Stone may be worth a blurb, having created and led one of the first mixed race bands to ever hit it big and many bands have since followed in that path. And with songs that are classics, He's a pretty well known name. And musical influence also exists from what came after with funk, and the early origins of rap. TheCorriynial (talk) 23:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's potential but I think fixing the numerous missing sources needs to be a higher priority. After that, bolstering the Legacy section with more reasons why he was considered a major figure in progressive rock/funk (pulling from obits would help) would help to make supporting a blurb more defensible. Masem (t) 00:47, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support and Blurb Sly is the most influential R&B/soul ('funk,' as some people call it) act after maybe James Brown in the entire history of recorded music. He had 4 number one Hot 100 singles and his songs are known worldwide even by literal children. Miles Davis would never have gone electric without his music, creating what we know as jazz fusion. Michael Jackson and Prince simply would not have existed, and neither would all modern pop music as a result. Disco, post-disco, post-punk, house music (and all electronic dance music), boogie, new jack swing, P-Funk, G-Funk, neo-soul, and arguably all hip hop as we know it would never have happened without Sly Stone. His band was revolutionary in breaking the color (and gender) barrier and the article goes in depth about his sheer impact. It would be a blight on Wikipedia not to blurb him, assuming that the article is updated to be in good condition. 108.147.206.21 (talk) 04:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because the sourcing sucks. I've fixed some of it, but this is a poorly written and sourced article. I don't have the time to resscue it. It's unfortunate that this article was not of better quality when he died. He is very noteworthy, but the article doesn't do him justice.– Abebenjoe (talk) 07:15, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Tragic, but the death toll is substantially low. The fact that it's the deadliest in a decade doesn't directly imply ITN-worthiness. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:19, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Israel seizes and detains members of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla
"Intercepts" implies some sort of precise military action. I don't think the flotilla was hiding. HiLo48 (talk)
Oppose for now For now, I think this is covered by ongoing and an additional blurb would be undue coverage, given we otherwise decline to post so many events related to the Gaza war on this basis. However, I am open to changing my vote if the scale of the controversy amplifies (if, for example, Greta Thunberg is criminally charged in Israel and detained, as opposed to being released back to Sweden). FlipandFlopped㋡06:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose covered by ongoing and I doubt it is particularly noticeable beyond the propaganda made by those who are part of the flotilla. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that Greta Thunberg was one of the top read articles yesterday with about a third of a million views (more than the Tony Awards or Sly Stone, who was my starting point). The freedom flotilla article was also in the list but not so prominent as I suppose its title is not so easy to find. So, the topic has definitely been noticed and ITN can help with the navigation. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:27, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew, nobody here cares about page view stats and nobody ever has. Quite frankly, it’s embarrassing that you continue to ignore that and plow straight ahead. TheKip(contribs)14:13, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is exactly one vote besides your own in that discussion that explicitly says page views are a legitimate/valid criteria for ITN, rather than simply opposing the addition because it's unnecessary. TheKip(contribs)16:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support The repeated claims above that this is covered by Ongoing are mistaken. Ongoing lists Gaza war but that doesn't seem to even mention the freedom flotilla, Greta Thunberg or the latest incident. The timeline has an entry for it but we're strangely not listing the timeline now -- see discussion below. So, with no timeline for this interminable war, we have to report such incidents as blurbs. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As in the past, for an ongoing with a long history and numerous subpages, we don't expect the main entry to be updated daily as long as the appropriate subpages are, which is the case for the timeline. Otherwise, some of those other ongoings would be removed.
And in terms of overall importance to make this separate from the ongoing, this wasn't like ship bring aid under the orders of a national gov't (The story would be far different if, for example, IDF captured an aid ship authorized by the US gov't). This was just civilians (including Greta) taking it on themselves to try to deliver aid despite knowing the blockaid around Gaza. Masem (t) 12:45, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a subpage of the ongoing entry. To get from the Ongoing entry to the flotilla, you have to locate a navigation template, expand it, find the timeline link, dig down through the tree of timelines and then find the right date within the relevant timeline. This is only feasible if you already know the details and structure -- the casual reader isn't doing all that deep diving when browsing. And the reader who is looking for the topic specifically is going to Google it. So, the point is that this is a specific event that is in the news and ITN's Ongoing is not a practical way of finding it.
As for the flotilla, there seems to be a long history of these going back nearly 20 years. Insofar as they are a type of NGO, that's not a factor. Gaza itself is not a national government but we still cover it.
Frankly, I still wouldn't post it if it wasn't in Ongoing. It simply isn't that impactful or important, it's just a standard naval blockade. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - protests about the war have been happening since day one. This is all ongoing. Some have already been deported. Nfitz (talk) 13:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment The article is 70 bytes off from the size minimum. It's so close that I wouldn't oppose IAR posting, but it would help if you expanded the page. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At least twelve Palestinians are killed and 29 others are injured by Israeli fire near two aid distribution sites in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military says they fired warning shots at people who had advanced toward its forces and ignored warnings to turn away but claimed they did not see any casualties. (CTV News)
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Nominator's comments: Ukrainian tenor, also transliterated Vladislav Horai, based in Odesa, who appeared internationally, killed in fighting when doing volontary relief work. The English sources focus on the death, - more details about the person would be great. New article as a translation from Ukrainian WP. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Support article is sourced and has enough prose, have added an additional altblurb1 to potentially swap to after initial blurb. Altblurb pictureHappily888 (talk) 05:49, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose For now, they're just protests, violent ones, yes, but protests like those occurring in many places around the world. The National Guard's intervention doesn't directly make it ITN-worthy. When there's a real, long-term impact, we'll assess it. This isn't the place for "announcements," either. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:33, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose at this point. Calling them "riots" exasterbates the issue, they were small scale protests with a few flare ups and were considered relatively peaceful by LA officials. Unless this actual move to bring in troops creates more problems, it falls under NTRUMP. Masem (t) 12:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NTRUMP and we're not a news ticker. This may be in the headlines worldwide but it's not a mass fatality event and lasting impact doesn't seem likely as things stand. — Amakuru (talk) 12:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose good faith nom per above. We don't typically post domestic political issues/events and these protests are no where near the scale that would justify posting at ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Trump being fidgety with law enforcement is not something that should decide ITN notability (TRUMPCRUFT etc.), but the protests actually might be noteworthy as a culmination of the mass deportations saga. Gotitbro (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: the conflict is still going on, the M23 still has a lot of territory claimed in the DRC and there are updates weekly: "from 26–31 May, 38 civilians—including women and children—were killed in Mutanda groupement under M23 control. At least 543 houses were burned by M23 rebels accusing residents of FDLR ties, while Wazalendo retaliated by torching homes in Butare village, alleging support for M23." –from the 'Timeline of the M23 campaign (2025)'-article Marpissum (talk) 15:27, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose In addition to what Muboshgu has said, the main article is waaaaaaay too details for an encyclopedic summary of the event. It's written from a news perspective, and not breaking the events to something that at least can be readily followed. Masem (t) 16:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This was just discussed recently. Since then, it hasn't become more prominent in major news outlets. We can't feature all the currently ongoing conflicts or civil wars in Ongoing. Khuft (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Israel announces that it killed Asaad Abu Sharia, leader of the Mujahideen Brigades which was responsible for the abductions of several hostages during the October 7 attacks, including Shiri Bibas and her two young sons. (The Times of Israel)
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Support I'm sure I'm not eligible to vote since I contributed to this article. However, I have noticed additional media coverage of her death since her initial obit was published which points to notability.
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Nominator's comments: European and British super middleweight boxing champion. Short article, but well sourced. HiLo48 (talk) 09:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question - on the surface this seems very ITN. But at the same time, I don't understand Columbian elections. How is he one of the first candidates to declare, and yet doesn't feature in opinion polls? Was the shooting political - it seems unusual if he's less prominent than over 20 other candidates!~ Nfitz (talk) 23:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. It's in the polls by his middle name. It probably is ITN in my mind - but the article needs improvements - it pretty brief compared to the well-fleshed out Spanish version. Nfitz (talk) 13:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Query - What is a 'pre-candidate'? It's not a term I'm familiar with. Does it have specific legal or political application in this context? GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-candidate is a person who declares the intention of participating in a election as a candidate or a candidate chosen (before the registration process) by a party to be registered as candidate. ArionStar (talk) 13:05, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Expanded article still isn't much longer than a stub + he doesn't seem to be an especially-major candidate (seemingly only polling around 3-4%, and the most recent poll had him in 5th place) + he survived. Doesn't meet the bar for ITN. TheKip(contribs)18:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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To add, we should wait for the men's singles winner tomorrow to post both for these types of events. And that would absolutely require the main 2025 French Open article to be up to par. Masem (t) 03:13, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I already adding the altblurb, to emphasize 2025 French Open in bolded instead of biography's article. For posting the blurb, we should wait until after 3pm (Male's singles final) given that Male's singles winner isn't determined yet. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 04:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no need to wait for the men's final, the women's is individually ITN/R. The article is nowhere near ready though, so it's a moot point currently. — Amakuru (talk) 06:47, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We can post the women's but the key article is still the 2025 French Open since that ultimately covers both and that's a way's away (ignoring the absence of the men's winner) Masem (t) 12:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There is a brief summary of each final in the sub-articles, but it's really brief, and practically nothing except tables in the main article. Black Kite (talk)13:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose like many tennis articles, 2025 French Open is junk with no prose and too many tables instead. Sub articles are a bit better but not good enough. We should be encouraging the main article to be fixed, as that's the article on WP:ITNR and that's the one people will mostly be viewing. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An overnight Russianmissile and drone attack on Kyiv, Ukraine, kills three people, injures 49 others and causes fires across the capital with multiple districts targeted. At least 2,000 homes lose power, according to the Kyiv City State Administration. At least 407 drones and 45 missiles are launched in total. (Reuters)(AP)
@Gotitbro and Flipandflopped: Not the nominator, but things escalated drastically on June 8. The National Guard caused more protests and now a journalist is shot in the leg, a freeway has been shut down, and the LAPD is telling everyone to leave downtown LA. I haven't made up my mind on this yet, but this is probably the reason for the renomination. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All very dramatic stuff, and wishing the individual shot in the leg a speedy recovery, but I still don't see the longterm or global impact of this, so my !vote would remain oppose. — Amakuru (talk) 13:41, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still Opposed but keeping an eye on things. This is still pretty small stuff compared to the kinds of protests we typically think about posting. As far as I can tell, the only reason this is getting so much attention is because Dear Leader & Co. are deliberately trying to throw gasoline on what was a relatively small dumpster fire. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:06, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still opposed Re-nominating it without substantial changes to the facts changes nothing. These are protests that have international coverage because they are taking place in a well-known city and are against a measure by the controversial Trump. For now, these protests are not ITN-worthy, and significant events (many victims, resignations of high-ranking officials, etc.) would have to happen for them to become so. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose far smaller scale in both size and impact/damage than the type of protests we do post. It's still a situation to watch and could get worse but too soon now. Masem (t) 20:32, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still support on notability as there is significant global coverage of the event. In my opinion, the involvement of the National Guard is unusual and important enough to be ITN-worthy. However, I don't think there's a good rationale for the re-nomination when the overall consensus was opposed to posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is huge news in the US, with the situation escalating as the weekend progresses. Now the Marines are in, and scenes of a person appearing to be trampled by police horses and an Australian reporter being shot by police are being talked about around the world. Terribly sorry for the reopen, my computer wouldn't lead me to this when I clicked it on the table of contents, instead going to the 8 June nom. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 03:58, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We are still in a land of hypotheticals of what impacts this actually could have. The situation could easily defuse in a day or so, or it could grow far worse. But until we have a good concept of what the end impact is going to be, these are still relatively small scale protests (the numbers appear to be only around 1000 or so) compared to what we typically post for protests, and is being primarily driven as a news story because of its political angle (sending of NG and marines to aid), which when it comes to US politics, is not a good reason to post due to the bias of the media in covering things in the US as ITN is not news. I'd also add the article is doing the same problem as the Timeline of the Gaza conflict nomination, in that it is documenting everything without an eye for encyclopedic summary, which is means it is of poor quality. Masem (t) 04:12, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add watching as the news continues to develop we are likely on the cusp of posting something. Hopefully at best it will be about thousands on nationwide protests re No Kings while denouncing that military parade in DC, but it likely could be much worse. But because of the instability of what's going down I'd not want to post anything now Masem (t) 22:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To me, it looks like the protests are starting to die down. Much of the news has moved to political reactions to the protests rather than the events themselves, because there's not much big developments on the ground. I also don't think the No Kings protest will be notable enough to post on here. GeicoHen (talk) 23:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Masem: I am having trouble parsing the 94-word sentence beginning with "But until we have a good concept". What do you mean by "which when it comes to US politics, is not a good reason to post due to the bias of the media in covering things in the US as ITN is not news"? Hawkeye7(discuss)00:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anything that happens in the US is given excessive weight by the bulk of our sources, compared to what happens in Europe or outside English areas, so we have to consider how actually significant a US event in terms of the global picture. Just because lots and lots of sources cover something (because its in the news) doesn't mean its a good topic for ITN to post because we're not a news ticker. Masem (t) 00:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
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The prose only has a year of birth. Which reference has the full dob? I'm struggling to find any refs in English, but Wikidata has some kind of ref in Chinese. Secretlondon (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ongoing: Timeline of the Gaza war (16 May 2025 – present)
Nominator's comments: I know this was raised by a sock earlier. A similar request was made on the talk page as well. The Gaza war is a long running event. Readers would benefit from have the latest timeline linked alongside for the latest developments as the Gaza war article is pretty long and updates there though frequent, are minute making it hard for readers to notice the incremental updates. This would be an addition to the current ongoing item for the Gaza war entry in the following format: Gaza war (timeline). The timeline article may be updated to newer timeline page when necessary. – robertsky (talk) 12:39, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality: Simply listing every related event is not an encyclopedic approach to developing this timeline. Not every event is part of the bigger picture. For example, on May 15, we have this: "A home was set on fire by Israeli settlers in Deir Istiya." Sure, that happened, but what consequence does that have? To compare, the current Ukraine/Russia timeline seems far more focused on major aspects, not covering every daily event. The Sudanese is similar, and while this has been debated before, the Timeline of the M23 campaign (2025) is also approaching this from a more encyclopedic/narrative aspect. Masem (t) 13:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose - This isn't encyclopedic at all, this is just a list of stuff. It's all "the IDF said" (they're completely biased anyways) or "Al Jazeera". — EF514:54, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
RSP “Most editors seem to agree that Al Jazeera English and especially Al Jazeera Arabic are biased sources on the Arab–Israeli conflict and on topics for which the Qatari government has a conflict of interest.“ History6042😊(Contact me)11:33, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the ongoing is already linked from the target page. I'd remove the other two ongoing as well - there's too much bloat already. The ongoing situation with the ethnic cleansing by Israel and terrorism by other groups covers more than Gaza - I don't even think we've targeted the right article. The Ukraine one is far too long - it's not even an invasion any more - we didn't call WWII "German invasion of Europe" - "Ukraine War" would suffice. Nfitz (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The only real reason to post this would be if the suggest timeline page is better quality than the currently linked article, which it is not, as per Masem. FlipandFlopped㋡22:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are so many issues with that article, User:Kiril Simeonovski. While the title says Gaza, a lot of the stuff in there is about wider events like the Israeli ethnic cleansing in the West Bank. Also if you want to compare it to the Ukraine timeline (which is surely WP:OCON), then it has a text and isn't just a relatively simple list, with little context. Nfitz (talk) 18:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both of you complain about quality. If you think it’s a problem, you’re encouraged to improve it. Procedurally, there’s no problem to link to the timeline in brackets.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
every featured link on the main page (including each of those on the ongoing line at ITN, must demonstrate the type of quality WP editors can do for articles, in the case of ITN, those in current events. Masem (t) 18:30, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An application of this logic: "I'm going to nominate a poorly written article for FA status. Oh, you're complaining about quality? Well, that's on you to fix it then. In the meantime, there's no procedural reason why we can't make this a featured article". FlipandFlopped㋡01:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Timeline isn't necessary as the main article already conveys the up to date information. Also it lacks quality per above. — Amakuru (talk) 07:25, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality per Masem mostly, and fundamentally. The main article (Gaza war) which is already ongoing is sufficient. Adding the timeline is not necessary - it's already linked from the main article, which is much more than just a timeline. Furthermore, as Masem and others have said, this timeline is just a list of anything remotely related, which is not encyclopedic. This isn't the place to argue to fix that article, but if people want it to appear on the mainpage, it needs to be fixed before it's nominated here. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me!07:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support There are some illogical comments above. The essential feature of an ongoing entry is that it gets lots of updates – typically several updates per day. This means that quality cannot be the primary consideration because these updates are typically a free-for-all without any formal review process.
For example, consider the only bold featured entry in Ongoing – the word itself. This links to Portal:Current events. The framework for that is protected but the daily updates are not and so are open to all. The latest complete day is Portal:Current events/2025 June 7 and that leads with a couple of entries for the Gaza war. The first seems ok but there are some quality issues with the second:
Israel announce that it killed Asaad Abu Sharia, leader of Mujahideen Brigades which was responsible for the abductions and eventual murders of several hostages during the October 7 attacks, including Shiri Bibas and her two young sons. (The Times of Israel)
This is ungrammatical (should be "announces"); the linking is odd with no link for the leader said to have been killed; and the only source is the Times of Israel which is partisan on this matter. It describes the killing of Shiri Bibas as a murder when the article says that the nature of her death is disputed.
So, as we're highlighting such material already, then adding a link to the timeline article does not seem significantly worse. The main consideration is whether it's useful as a navigation link. As the main article about the war is huge, I reckon that it is. And it seems sensible to be consistent with the other interminable wars.
There is a difference between simply dropping any event that the news reports on in a timeline, and constructing the basis for a good encyclopedia timeline that summarizes the key and important events of the conflict. The latter can still be done and kept timely (eg to the day). Masem (t) 19:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The quality I refer to in my oppose is not what you’re thinking it is. The reason I say it’s quality is not high enough is because of the COATRACKy qualities of the timeline right now, including virtually everything even tangentially related. As Masem says, an encyclopedic timeline is supposed to be basically an article but in chronological/list format, not a place to dump everything remotely related into. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me!22:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a superficial take. I looked at the detail and found that the large number of updates to the Gaza timeline were mainly due to Pachu Kannan who has made more than half the edits. They were challenged about this on their talk page and explained that "I am only adding Israeli strikes with at least 10 reported deaths. The only exception is reported deaths of woman and children or clearly mentioned deaths of militants or civilian men. If a Hezbollah or Hamas or any other non state actor's (Iran's proxy's) attack is causing casualties on Israelis, it is added by me and other things that it think as notable.". So it appears that these updates are not indiscriminate but follow a consistent standard. It seems perverse to punish an article for being updated in such a diligent way.
The consequence of not having a timeline entry is that our treatment of this conflict looks poor as compared to the treatment of Ukraine or Sudan. As the conflict is controversial, casual readers may suppose that there is some POV or agenda behind this unexplained omission.
And to see how this distorts our coverage see the nomination of the Freedom Flotilla above. This has been getting lots of attention and coverage but the nomination is opposed mainly on the grounds that it's covered by Ongoing. But Ongoing's main entry on the Gaza war doesn't say anything about this while the omitted timeline does. Tsk.
Support, per nom, I think that the timeline is necessary for this conflict as it is necessary for the other ongoing events. It can be improved, but it's not bad to the point of its removal. — 🧀Cheesedealer!!!⚟16:24, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Masem , Amakuru and others. Not only is the quality not there - I also disagree with arguments that "this needs to be added because the other Ongoing items also have a timeline". Khuft (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former chief justice of the Supreme Court of Nigeria. Sourcing looks good and article is long enough. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment; technically long enough, but the only details in the article are on one report on electoral reform he published in 2008. It would be nice to have any details about his time on the Supreme Court, or his early life/career. ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:44, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
The government of the Ivory Coast declares an outbreak of cholera after confirming seven recent deaths from the disease, and calls on the population to remain vigilant. (AP)
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: A Ghanaian broadcaster known as "The Magnificent Emperor". 12:26, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: One of Apple's early engineers, developed the QuickDraw and HyperCard technology among others. I've worked to clean up the article for posting. Masem (t) 03:46, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Comment: It's odd that the intro (which, btw, is too short with a single sentence) mentions that the subject was an author and there is a list of his publications at the end of this wikibio, and yet the main prose does not mention his writing or publishing. Looks like a gap in coverage. --PFHLai (talk) 10:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It's also odd that Willet died roughly a month ago, yet is only being put on Candidates now. Perhaps reported late? If so, would love for that to be mentioned in the article/in the nomination tab. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist800020:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the news report of his death in the article is dated 3 June. That would indicate that it was reported late. Schwede6623:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
I think the subsection on his entire first term should be expanded with content that narrates things he did/said as president beyond his electoral participation. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support blurb - Canada's first and best known astronaut. Gosh, Captain Dr Garneau has large schools named after him. And then the political career after all that, including Transport minister during the Covid emergency, with all that entailed. The astronaut aspect is alone enough to blurb. Nfitz (talk) 03:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb For all purposes, Garneau feels like a comparable to John Glenn (whom we only did RD for), because while he is has a whole host of accomplishments between space travel and politics, none of these make him an major or influential figure with some type of legacy beyond the host of accomplishments. RD would be fine but sourcing needs to be fixed up first. Masem (t) 03:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb Article is good, but I don't think "first Canadian in space" is enough for a blurb in ITN. We didn't blurb John Glenn. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Posted to RD as there's consensus to post, but no consensus for a blurb. Feel free to continue discussing whether the post should be elevated to a blurb. Schwede6602:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I'm the only person who supports a blurb, I see no reason to further discuss, rather than closing the debate. Nfitz (talk) 22:32, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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