Internist Dr. Meryl Nass, the founder of Door to Freedom, joined comedian Jimmy Dore to discuss the World Health Organization’s (WHO) proposed “pandemic agreement” — widely known as the “pandemic treaty” — and amendments to the International Health Regulations (IHR), on “The Jimmy Dore Show” May 8.
Nass warned that these proposals represent a power grab by the WHO, posing a threat to national sovereignty, personal autonomy and health freedom, while promoting controversial gain-of-function research on potentially deadly pathogens.
The two proposals also would intensify censorship of dissenting views.
Nass also warned that time is running out, as the WHO’s World Health Assembly will meet in Geneva, Switzerland, from May 27 to June 1 to vote on these proposals.
The WHO’s proposals are accompanied by an upcoming vote in the General Assembly of the United Nations (U.N.) that would give the U.N.’s secretary-general unprecedented emergency powers — not just for pandemics, but also for a host of other potential disasters, ranging from cyberattacks to climate change to a “black swan event.”
Nass told Dore that pushback against the proposals is intensifying. She cited letters to President Joe Biden, co-signed by 22 state attorneys general and 49 Republican Senators, opposing these proposals.
Nass told The Defender:
“I think we are doing way better than posturing. Twenty-two attorneys general told the Biden administration that they would not be obeying any WHO orders in their state. That protects the people in those states from being subject to orders from the WHO. It is a massive accomplishment.
“Furthermore, we are close to forcing the Biden administration to put any WHO treaties it wishes to join in front of the Senate for its advice and consent. This will almost certainly kill them for the United States. We simply need to pass S.444 and H.R.1425, which would require Senate ratification and prohibit the current administration from providing a simple signature and calling them ratified.
“We are focused on getting legislation passed to require Senate ratification of both treaties. If we succeed, they will be dead in the water. We are also working with people around the world, meeting with lawmakers, doctors and attorneys, to help them stop it in their nations.”
‘Unelected’ WHO ‘wants to take more control of your life’
During his interview with Nass, Dore noted that WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus does not have a medical background.
“We’ve tried to warn people that the WHO is literally … being run by a guy who’s not even qualified,” Dore said. Yet, “the WHO wants to take more control of your life. They’re unelected and they’re funded by Bill Gates.”
Nass noted that Tedros “has got a Ph.D. in community health [and] was the health minister and the foreign minister in Ethiopia when his organization was considered terrorists by the State Department.” She added that “he’s accused of covering up three cholera epidemics that affected a rival tribe.”
“That’s who we’ve got,” Nass said. “Not a very ethical gentleman.”
Yet that’s who is now attempting to attain unprecedented powers. “He’s never treated a patient, but he’d like to treat 8 billion people who are on the planet because the powers that the WHO is seeking would give him the right to declare pandemics or ‘likely pandemics’ at any time for a number of reasons,” Nass said.
Those reasons could extend beyond health to include ecosystem problems, animal or plant emergencies, Nass said. “He could declare any of those, and then he would have the right to tell everybody in the world what they needed to do or what they couldn’t do. For example, he could mandate vaccinations.”
These powers would be aligned with global efforts to fast-track vaccine development.
“The goal of the G20, the U.S., the EU and the U.N. and World Bank is to roll out vaccines in 130 days, which is crazy, because you can’t test them in humans during that time. It means we’re going to get more dangerous vaccines, and they would like to remove liability from those vaccines as they did for COVID,” Nass said.
According to Nass, the WHO’s proposals would legalize censorship, requiring nations to surveil their citizens’ social media.”
“You cannot have a democracy when information is controlled. We’re seeing that in the United States now and in the rest of the Western world,” Nass said. “The fact [is] that no major media, no TV station, nobody will talk about these WHO documents and actually tell you what’s in them … We’re not living in a democracy anymore.”
Nass told Dore the WHO’s proposals would bolster risky gain-of-function research on potentially dangerous pathogens:
“[These proposals] also allow the WHO to create a library of what they call ‘potential pandemic pathogens’ and what I call biological warfare agents, which the WHO would then share globally with universities, pharmaceutical companies, research centers, and others that are really interested in proliferating agents that can cause pandemics in humans, animals and plants.
“It’s a little hard to explain why you would want to do that unless you wanted to sell drugs and vaccines to deal with the pandemics that are going to ensue.
“For me, the scariest thing is the library of biological warfare agents that they want to proliferate, that is actually going against the Biological Weapons Convention. It’s an invitation to lab leaks and disasters.”
WHO proposals would lead to ‘warp speed’ development of new vaccines
Nass told Dore that she believes the recent letters sent by Senators and attorneys general to the Biden administration will “absolutely” have an effect.
“Door to Freedom has been working with activists in all states, trying to pass legislation that will deny the WHO jurisdiction in their state,” Nass said.
Nass explained the legal rationale underpinning Door to Freedom’s work:
“The 10th Amendment … says that any powers not specifically given to the federal government in the Constitution are reserved to the states or the people. That means healthcare. The regulation of healthcare is reserved to the states.
“And so, we thought it’s time to point out that President Biden, who is ready to turn over U.S. healthcare and the control of U.S. information to the WHO, well, actually, you don’t have the authority to do that because it’s vested in the states.
“Every Republican senator has written a letter to Biden and co-sponsored a bill that denies jurisdiction saying, ‘we don’t want the WHO giving orders. This is a terrible thing. Stop negotiating these treaties.’ And they’ve also co-sponsored a bill that would require that these treaties go before the Senate to be ratified.”
According to Nass, this letter is not merely symbolic. “What that means is, with 49 Senators on our side, ratification can’t happen because they need two-thirds” of Senators to ratify a new treaty.
“We’ve been signing treaties without the Senate approval … for over 200 years,” Nass said, noting that this is known as “fast-track approval,” which she and Dore likened to “warp speed” approval of new vaccines.
“Nowadays it’s like 2% of the treaties go in front of the Senate and the rest are signed off by somebody in the State Department or the president,” Nass added.
Nass’ efforts have extended to parliamentarians in other countries, she said.
“I’ve been in about eight countries talking to parliamentarians,” Nass said. “They are so shocked, and they all wind up agreeing with us. I mean, who wants to turn over powers to run global healthcare to an organization that has basically failed at everything it’s tried to do in terms of global healthcare?”
Citing its response to Ebola epidemics in Africa, Nass said, “The WHO does not have a good track record. I mean, any state in the United States probably has more expertise in infectious disease and emergencies than the WHO has. WHO has a $4 billion or less budget per year for Bill Gates. It’s a cheap date [for Gates].”
WHO beholden to wealthy donors, not nation-states
Nass and Dore also focused on Gates’ influence and sway over the WHO.
“Gates is the biggest donator to the WHO,” Dore said. “He donates through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and through Gavi. Gates [is] not a well-intentioned philanthropist … He is a megalomaniac monopolist who’s a cutthroat businessman, and he’s always made hundreds of millions of dollars off of anything he’s done.”
Dore noted that Gates profited significantly from his investments in BioNTech just prior to the COVID-19 pandemic while making public statements that the company’s vaccine would stop transmission and is “safe and effective.” Later though, Gates “cashed out” his stock and “started telling people that the vaccine wasn’t so good.”
According to Dore, Gates subsequently helped fund the development of inhalable vaccines, touted as a potential tool to help combat the next pandemic.
Nass said “85% of the WHO budget comes from donations, not from dues. And 75% of what the WHO spends on programs is all directed by its donors. So, the WHO is already a captured agency. It’s no longer an agency that is the servant of the nation-states … And that’s why we should never give them any authority to rule over us in any way.”
Nass added that Gates also founded the Coalition for Epidemic Innovation Preparedness and Innovation, widely known as CEPI. Nass said, “That’s the organization that came up with this idea that we could roll out a vaccine in 130 days.”
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UN to seek unprecedented emergency powers in September
Dore and Nass also discussed the U.N.’s plans to grant unprecedented emergency powers to its secretary-general.
“Now in September, let me warn everybody, the United Nations is trying to get something similar passed,” Nass said. “They want the U.N. General Assembly to vote to allow the secretary-general of the U.N. to have an emergency platform where he would then be able to declare emergencies of all types.”
According to Nass, this includes “pandemic emergencies, biowarfare emergencies, emergencies in outer space, black swan emergencies, climate change emergencies, supply chain emergencies.” Similar to the WHO’s proposals, “the secretary-general would be able to tell the nations what they have to do.”
“We’re going to have to educate everybody about what’s going on there,” Nass said, noting that, with the WHO’s proposals, “we’ve made enormous strides in educating the public [but] have a long way to go.”
Nass told The Defender that Door to Freedom “has been a catalyst” in such efforts. “I think we have been successful beyond our dreams.”
“The bottom line is that this effort to globalize the governance of public health emergencies and health information could not stand up to any scrutiny. It could only pass by stealth,” Nass said. “I now call it the World Stealth Organization. Simply by alerting enough people to what is being proposed, we will win this.”
Watch Dr. Meryl Nass’ interview on ‘The Jimmy Dore Show’ here:
