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Age[]

It seems there is a conflict regarding Mai's age. In the official website, it is stated that she is 15 years old, but in The Beach, as pointed out by 211.27.138.60, Ty Lee says that Mai has been an only child for 15 years, and since Tom Tom is 2, that would make her 17 years old. And both are canon sources of information. Exactly how old is Mai? Omnibender 16:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I would assume she is fifteen as the site says, and Ty Lee (or the writers) forgot about Tom Tom.Thatother1dude 03:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I think she's 16 or 17. I doubt the writers forgot. If they weren't thinking about Tom Tom there'd be no reason to say she was an only child for a certain amount of time instead of just having Ty Lee say "you're an only child". Maybe go for a middle ground and change it to 16? Liebling 19:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that she was actually about 15 years old in the second season and then she turned 16 in the third season.Cari1994 19:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

mai is cool. and that is that. she was especially cool when she saved zuko and the others from aluza.

utter coolness.

vera

I think mai is 15 but it gets confusing when tom tom is in the way of her age. :)--Momolaca 21:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)momolaca

I read that mai was the only child for 15 years and tomtom is 2 so you add the ages and you get 17. i think mai is 17. and as for zuko i think he is 17 like mai or he is 18 because if i was him i would not want a girlfriend older then me! :)

--Lucylulu 01:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)lucylulu

Please, do not use unnecessary spaces. Thanks. Omnibender 14:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Since a full year has past by the end of the series, its safe to put her down as 16 now.

Please, sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (~). And it's not safe to put down as 16, we don't know when in the year she was born, she might have turned 15 just before she was introduced or she might have been almost 16 when she was introduced, no reference to birthdays in Avatar doesn't allow us to effectively change character ages. Omnibender 18:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Tomtom might not be her only sibling, they might have lost one, and your opinions on how old you would want your girlfriend to be is not something you should base Zuko off of... Felinoel 22:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I think Mai is about 16-16 1/2ish . The same age as Zuko. In The Beach she was a only child for fifteen years, Tomtom must be like 1 1/2 because he does not speek full words well. So 15 + 1 1/2 = 16 1/2. Mai is 16-16 1/2

sincae every character has their age changed to correspond with Legend of Korra, do you think we should change it to 85?Courage the Cowardly ^{[[Fanon:Avatar Echoes of Dawn's Past|Dawn's Past]]} 02:08, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. Other than Aang, we don't know if they're still alive. They could have died too. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:59, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Name meaning?[]

I'm pretty sure the statement that "Mai" means brightness in Japanese is incorrect. 明 is pronounced "mei." 24.165.107.3 01:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, we've seen her name being pronounced both as "Mai" and as "Mei", so it gets confusing. Omnibender 15:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Well what does "mei" mean? Because I don't remember it being pronounced "my" Felinoel 05:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember when, but I think I remember who, it was either Azula or Ty Lee in Book two. Omnibender 16:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

And it only happened once? Felinoel 17:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Nope, I definitely heard it more than once. Omnibender 18:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

By that one person? Felinoel 18:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

That I don't remember. Omnibender 18:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

If it was just by one person then it might be just an accent or something, did anyone figure out what Mai pronounce like "may" means? Felinoel 18:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

"Mei" in Chinese (the language of the show) means "beauty," and is pronounced in the same way as her name ("may"). While the spelling of "Mai" suggests that it should sound like "my" (as in "Ozai"), the creators chose to say it differently. My guess is that it is a clever blend of "beauty" and "sleeve" (Chinese "mai"). 71.162.0.71 18:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

ID Image[]

Recently, Mai's image was replaced with one depicting her as a Kyoshi Warrior throwing her stilettos. Personally, I think the image that was previously here should be restored, the one of her in "Return to Omashu". It is more appropriate considering her status as a Kyoshi Warrior is neither her true identity or appropriate in expressing her nationality. Someone please restore the previous image.68.39.145.158 21:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Mai and Ty Lee remained imprisoned at The Boiling Rock?[]

"Mai and Ty Lee remained imprisoned at the Boiling Rock until the defeat of Fire Lord Ozai during the coming of Sozin's Comet." There is no evidence that states Mai and Ty Lee were remained imprizoned at the Boiling Rock. If you go to Ty Lee's page it doesn't state these two were imprisoned at the Boiling Rock. If Mai and Ty Lee were imprisoned at the Boiling Rock then how did they met The Kyoshi Warriors (unless they were transferred to the Boiling Rock after Suki escaped). Just because Mai's uncle "pulled a few strings" doesn't mean they were imprisoned at the Boiling Rock, ever thought Mai's uncle could go to other prisons and let them out. I think this should be changed and I think it's more accurate that Mai and Ty Lee were imprisoned at Capitol City prison in the Fire Nation as that's how they would meet the Kyoshi Warriors. [[User:Fme008|Fme008]] 3:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

i have been thinking the same thing!--Lucylulu 17:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)lucylulu

If Mai says her uncle pulled strings, it has to be at the Boiling Rock, he runs the prison, that's where his authority, his jurisdiction, so to speak, ends. We have no knowledge of him running any other prison, if Mai had said just the "it helps when the new Fire Lord is your boyfriend" part, I'd agree, she could have been shipped to a prison in Ba Sing Se for all that I care, but if her uncle had something to do with her release, she must have been imprisoned somewhere he has some sort of influence, and the Boiling Rock is the only place we know for a fact he does. Omnibender 17:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't The Warden (Mai's uncle) talk to the other prison warden's and maybe make a deal or something to release Mai and Ty Lee? [[User:Fme008|Fme008]] 18:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Other than the Boiling Rock, the only other known FN prisons are the ones in the Capital City, and the one where Hama stayed at, since Mai and Ty Lee aren't Waterbenders, the last one is ruled out. That leaves city prison and Boiling Rock, now let's take a look at the situation: Mai and Ty Lee just betrayed Azula, she tells the prison guards to get them out of her sight, put them somewhere she never has to see their faces again, and let them rot. They are in a prison, both the girls are subdued, why ship them to another prison if they're in one already? Azula knows that the Warden is Mai's uncle, and she just saw that he's willing to sacrifice his life (and Azula's for that matter) to keep his no escape record, if he betrays her, she can easily ask her father to replace him. Something also worth pointing out, is that Azula knows what both of them are capable of, that's why she picked them to help her hunt Zuko and the Avatar, what better place to incarcerate them than the highest security prison of the FN? Of course, 2 teenagers just broke into it and managed to free 3 prisoners, but it still is the best prison their is. That's the most logical solution for me. Omnibender 01:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Were Ty Lee and Mai at the same prison or were they separated? I want to ask because if Ty Lee and Mai were at The Boiling Rock, then the only explanation of how Ty Lee met The Kyoshi Warriors was if they were transferred to The Boiling Rock after (or Ty Lee at the Capital Prison where the Kyoshi Warriors stayed), right? Also, why would Azula ask the guards to put the girls in The Boiling Rock where Mai's uncle is the warden, that's like school, where the teacher is the parent and the stuent is the children, they could never be in the same classroom together because it would cause unfairness to others. His "no escape record was broken right? So why does he care anymore? I'm still confused on some parts. [[User:Fme008|Fme008]] 19:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Not necessarily, in fact, putting Mai and Ty Lee under Mai's uncle's watch would, in Azula's twisted logic a way to see if he's truly loyal, seeing if he'll follow her rules despite there being a conflict of interests, she did the same thing in Return to Omashu, she "suggested" that it was strategically unwise to change Bumi, a powerful Earthbender, for Tom Tom, a 2 year baby, to Mai, who's Tom Tom's big sister. There was a conflict of interests, but Mai showed no objection to not trading them and engaging into a fight. Omnibender 16:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

i think that the kioshi worriors were in the prison too. and they did some lesson's there and then ty -lee joind there group. at the end Ty-lee said this "the girls and i bonded in prison and we did a couple of chi blocking lessons and they accepted me into their group." so that is what happened because she said it! :) --Lucylulu 18:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)lucylulu

so the only explanation for the kyoshi warriors is that they were transported to the boiling rock after suki and the rest of the gang escaped? Because when sokka asked suki if the rest of the kyoshi warriors are here, suki said they were at the fire nation capital prison. [[User:Fme008|Fme008]] 23:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

It is probably safe to assume that Mai was kept at the Boiling Rock, and Ty Lee was separated from her and transferred to the prison in the Fire Nation capital; Ty Lee was definitely sent there (as evidenced by her joining with the Kyoshi Warriors), and Mai's late arrival to the celebrations suggest that she was in a different place from all of the Water Tribe and Earth Kingdom warriors released from the capital prison. 71.162.0.71 18:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks[]

Thanks for writing an article for Mai, Ty Lee and Suki. It is much better than the article a couple of us was trying to put together on wikipedia.

"G. Capo"

Age[]

Sie ist funfzehn Jahre alt. Ich weiss avatar.

Yeah, I don't think anyone here speaks German. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Niemand hier spricht Deutsches, dass ich bewusst bin. Traurig.

- Avatar Junky ^-^Talk 21:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I do. He's saying she (Mai) is 15 years old... I fail to see the point of that statement though... ― T hailog 21:36, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Also completely irrelevant because the original poster is obviously just messing about, as he/she can't be a native speaker. Looks more like a machine translation orn uninformed use of a dictionary. 217.95.251.151

Mai as Kyoshi Warrior[]

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I would like to replace the first image for the second one. It serves the same purpose and you have a better depiction of the subject. ― T hailog 00:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks good for me, it's better quality and it shows her better. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes. And it does not have the Nick logo. Dcasawang1 ^- ^Talk ^- ^{Contributions} 00:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Infobox image[]

The current one is just awful. Here's a few suggestions:

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― T hailog 20:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I would say 2 or 3. 20:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I like image 2. - Avatar Junky ^-^Talk 21:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I was going to bring this up a while ago, but then I thought, of all the characters to have a dark, gray image of, Mai is the best. But anyway, image 2.is what I'm leaning for. Vaznock - Talk 21:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

If you must change the main picture, use #3.Fire Eater 16:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I go for 3, 2 is good but it's slightly off centered. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I like #3 too. ― T hailog 16:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I realize I'm over a year late to the party -- long enough that the above images have disappeared -- but... it bugs me that the ID image for Mai is one where she is visibly emotional. (Then again, the page quote has always bugged me a bit as a "definitive" quote from her.) Does anybody else feel this way? I just wanted to get that out there. - Caswin (talk • contribs) 03:09, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Mai's crush on Zuko[]

Azula said something about Mai's crush on Zuko being "mutual". What does she mean? Also, why was "Going Home Again" not shown i nthe show, and where can I see the Nick mag comic about it? 24.254.42.50 23:19, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Here you can read the comic although not in a very good quality: http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/Sailor_Tenchi/Avatar Going Home Again/?mediafilter=images I think it wasn't in the show because it isn't part of the main point (defeating the big bad Fire Nation XD etc.) but it's only my guess. I also think she (Azula) noticed Zuko's interest in Mai before his banishment as well as Mai's. Well Zuko must been interested in Mai before his banishment because he kept with him that heart-shaped stone he got from Mai and I also assume, although it's not confimed that he must've liked her in some degree when he saved her from that flaming apple also it still can be only me reading too much in things =D Hope I could help and sorry about the bad English (I'm still learning)

How it is spelled[]

Mei is a Japanese given name (or at least in origin) pronounced like the month but spelled M-e-i. you pronounce the 'eh' then the 'ee'. Believe me I've been studying Japanese for three years now. If it was spelled M-a-i it would have the 'ah-ee' sound like in 'Kairi' or 'Sai'.Lee Dante (talk • contribs) 07:01, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Every official source there is spells her name as "Mai". Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:15, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the creators of the show spell her name oddly; none of us know why. Meanwhile, why is 美 listed as the Chinese version of Mai's name? Although it is pronounced with the "may" sound, no source I've seen lists it as her name -- including Writing in the World of Avatar. For further confusion, the Chinese version of the show (according to Wikipedia) renders her name as 梅, pronounced with the "my" sound. If someone can pony up a source for 美, please update the writing article; if no source can be found, I suggest replacing it with 梅. (Yeah, it's not pronounced that way, but the characters for Aang (eing) are pronounced "ahn ahn" roughly. Life's tough.) - Lenga -chan 23:58, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

To Omnibender- don't trust the American creators of a show to get things accurate- we mess this kind of stuff up all of the time.

Well, yes - but strictly speaking Ty Lee perhaps should be spelled Tai Li. The fact is that the official spelling is the one used on this wiki. There's a reason that Ty Lee's page is move-protected.

Hmmm[]

Has anyone noticed how Zuko is a stereo-typical "USA Boy" and Mai is a stereo-typical "Asian Girl"? The Fire Nation is either seen as China during the great war in which they eradicated the monks, or USA's eastward expansion on third world countries. The fact that these two are in a relationship mimics and suggests that these indomitable powers, if combined, could wreck havoc on the world. Interesting point, no?

Prince Azula http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab307/yeahthatboy/azula-dobs-c1.gif 23:58, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

That would mean they are saying that that would basically eradicate Mexico....Avatar Courage 00:01, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lol. I am not trying to really say that. I am more trying to point out that since those are the two main understandings of what the Fire Nation represents, it was a smart move on the editors side to create this couple. Thus, supporting that the Fire Nation can represent either or as she is the new Fire Lady and he is the Fire Lord. Just a point of interest.

Prince Azula http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab307/yeahthatboy/azula-dobs-c1.gif 00:50, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

In a way it actually makes sense,the sun warriors are more about culture(mexico) and the fire nation is more about technology(USA)Avatar Courage 07:14, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

PersonalityUser:[]

I need others opinion on Mai's personality? I don't like it but I know that other people do and I'm curious to kow why.
Also does anyone know why she's so bored all the time? That in my opinion is what makes her the most annoying. Perhaps if I knew the reason I wouldn't be so annoyed? - Ireallydohatemai 28/12/10 11.10pm GMT

She explains herself in The Beach. Water Spout _{tаlk •}_blog 00:00, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Age[]

If she is born in 85 AG, and not 84 AG, then she can not be 17 in The Promise, which takes place in 101 AG or 18 in Smoke and Shadow, which takes place in 102 AG.Ninja72 (wall • contribs) 19:37, August 22, 2018 (UTC)