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Not notable besides its brief appearance on Angry Video Game Nerd. Fails WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep This was deleted before with far less to establish notability (and I would have agreed). Having recreated the page, I would now argue that there is more notability to the game than just AVGN. The soundtrack is regarded by multiple outlets as notable for its bad quality, and a Venezuelan university report mentions its legacy of bringing attention to games in Venezuela. Whether AVGN promoting it led to more people paying attention shouldn't imo be a disqualifier. JSwift49 20:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: JSwift49 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]
Keep. A decent amount of sources demonstrated its independent notability, even if the article does require some rewrites to be in a more readable state.
By the way, article had been marked with copyright violations due to the article previously hosting lyrics to a song from Arthur which is obviously still copyrighted and the lyrics are still in article history. It has no effect on this article's deletion. MimirIsSmart (talk) 11:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per JSwift49. Æ's old account wasn't working (talk) 23:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. There's very little actual substantive coverage, and what does exist isn't enough to build an article on. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The problem is that the game's notorious audio is well-known but the citations in the article do not provide much coverage of any other aspects of the game, little that there is. Most of the sources are listicles, which is fine, but their purpose and content is mostly alone to state that the menu music sucks. I don't think a passing academic reference is good evidence that it's brought attention to Venezuelan game development. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 09:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would argue that the basic coverage of other aspects of the game is to be expected, as the game is known for being exceedingly simple (drive the bus back and forth and honk the horn). So the soundtrack is the main aspect of notoriety, though you also have AVGN, the academic reference, Niconico News with dedicated coverage of the game at large, plus some of the listicles discussing the soundtrack also mention the gameplay.
    Screen Rant says the game is "on the list of must-play games for YouTubers, Twitch streamers, and retro enthusiasts interested in the more bizarre parts of gaming history."
    There were also two books/reference guides? in Japanese about CrazyBus written by the same person; however I could only find previews of a couple of pages.
    JSwift49 14:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    AVGN is non-RS per WP:VG/S unless it's widely reported that the AVGN review itself is notable. For the others, again, what mention there is of the game is trivial or not really reliable. Screen Rant mentions it very briefly in passing. And I can't see any evidence those books have anything to do with the game from the links supplied? ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 08:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But we have an academic source covering the AVGN interview, and Screen Rant additionally gives Crazy Bus five sentences on its list of worst soundtracks?
    Re. the books, the page previews I found confirm they are about CrazyBus (they are both linked in the article). JSwift49 11:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep When the article was first created, I argued that there was enough coverage of the game by sources to warrant inclusion. The addition of further references demonstrates this. --NoonIcarus (talk) 15:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The Spanish Wikipedia article has seven references. Left guide (talk) 06:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:12, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for better source evaluation. Seems like there are sources present, but a good RS with SIGCOV is yet to be found. Also, need to address the newly found sources' reliability.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Benison (talk) 14:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Per Zx, Giant Bomb is a fan-generated wiki, and Bad Game Hall of Fame seems to a self-published blog. I can't judge Passage M Secreta since it doesn't seem to have any editorial standards I can find, and was a blog for a long period of time. Crazy Bus's article was made a month after it shifted away from being a blog (Though I still can't verify if it actually had standards or not) but its author has been blocked and thus whoever wrote it is unverifiable. There's so much undeterminable here I'm not even sure if it's viable for use at all. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also don’t support adding Giant Bomb or Bad Game Hall of Fame to the article for these reasons. I think the existing sources are enough for the article to be kept. JSwift49 11:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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