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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus is that the incident is not notable enough to warrant coverage in an article. Sandstein 07:07, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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non notable incident. Doesn't meet WP:aircrash William 22:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. -William 22:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -William 22:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -William 22:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: This accident does meet WP:AIRCRASH in that there was serious damage to the aircraft. Whilst I can't say for definite that the aircraft was written off, there are no photos of the aircraft in flight after the date of the accident. Both pilots and an ground engineer were suspended post-accident. Mjroots (talk) 22:28, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Conditional Delete The description in the article falls short of the kind of serious damage that appears contemplated in WP:AIRCRASH. However, if someone has evidence the aircraft was indeed totaled, or even seriously damaged, by the fire, keeping the article would be in keeping with the policy. The lack of post-incident photos isn't prima facie evidence the aircraft was totaled. The article Air India fleet indicates that Air India owns five 747-400's (aka 747-437) and a note indicates "2 to be leased out, 1 stored" so there are reasons other than the aircraft being seriously damaged or totaled that it hasn't been observed in service. Circumspect (talk) 23:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The usual source for discovering whether a plane was written off or not is Aviation Safety Network. ASN doesn't even have an entry for this incident and anybody who knows ASN knows how comprehensive their database is.- William 14:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's covered under the ASN Wikibase, which isn't suitable for use as a reference. Mjroots (talk) 18:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why isn't ASN suitable as a reference in this instance? You've edited many crash articles and know that ASN is used as a source in many of them. It is also the only source usually for whether a plane is written off or not.- William 18:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's the ASN Wikibase, which fails WP:RS, as it's similar to any other Wiki. The ASN Database however, is a RS. Mjroots (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why isn't ASN suitable as a reference in this instance? You've edited many crash articles and know that ASN is used as a source in many of them. It is also the only source usually for whether a plane is written off or not.- William 18:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's covered under the ASN Wikibase, which isn't suitable for use as a reference. Mjroots (talk) 18:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The usual source for discovering whether a plane was written off or not is Aviation Safety Network. ASN doesn't even have an entry for this incident and anybody who knows ASN knows how comprehensive their database is.- William 14:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete ASN (not really a reliable source as a self-published website) says damage to aircraft was minor. MilborneOne (talk) 19:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unremarkable incident. Didnt even generate all that much press.--198.85.228.129 (talk) 00:57, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.