User talk:Bringingthewood

Invitation to join WikiProject National Football League

Hi, Bringingthewood. You are cordially invited to join WikiProject National Football League, a project dedicated to improving articles in relation to the National Football League. Please visit the project's talk page to see what areas/topics need help and to discuss any questions you may have. Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	Always refreshing to get a talk page notice instead of a revert one, especially when it was regarding my revert. —Bagumba (talk) 03:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

The American Football Barnstar!

		The American Football Barnstar
		For all the hard work you put in towards improving American Football articles. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Another American Football Barnstar!

		The American Football Barnstar
		I know you had one already, but I thought you deserved another (in a different colour). This is for all the work you do on American football articles. It's very much appreciated. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thanks for all the minor edits you've been doing. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 22:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you for the help at Senior High (TV series)! Have a lovely rest of your weekend! :) Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 07:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	For "taking the high road" ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	I don’t know what to write 🤷‍♂️ Roasted (talk) 05:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Your edits are so good dude, you're like a bot. You notice everything. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For all of the great edits throughout your history. Best wishes. Red Director (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	Thanks for mediating and offering me advice to also reach out to users over misunderstandings. 9mm.trilla (talk) 03:13, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For all you do, this Amstel's for you. —Bagumba (talk) 01:58, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

A beer for you!

have a pint for continually reverting the I WILL SHOOT YOU TO DEATH ip address vandal Bastubunny (talk) 04:45, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Bringingthewood!

Happy New Year!

Bringingthewood,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Happy Holidays

Hello Bringingthewood: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Nowrap

Kudos to a fellow {{nowrap}} user.[1] —Bagumba (talk) 11:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation

Hi Bringingthewood. I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Crackers

Sorry, restricted to RfC participants only. Bad bird. —Bagumba (talk) 07:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Who was that goat guy, lol

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't think they want to block him, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

He's about to be blocked. I tried to report him, but someone else already did it. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

GONE BABY!! Now that was awesome!!!! Bringingthewood (talk) 05:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

He should have been reported yesterday. I was just praying that this 2007 Dell wouldn't freeze up on me. Glad you got to see the movie! :):):) Thanks for trying to get that report in. I almost deleted the good messages with the bad, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

lol lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

TIL you're my sock

Not sure why I would do that, but if that sock says so, then it must be true. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 02:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Talk page reverts

This IP is allowed to remove the warning on their own talk page per WP:TPO. Removal is acknowledgement that the person read it. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @EvergreenFir Funny thing is that I saw they reverted your warning, so I tried to help. Only because in the past I've seen those types of warnings were reverted. No good deed goes unpunished (That's me!). I knew that I would see a red bell light up, lol ... that's why I stopped after two reverts. Thanks for your message and good luck throwing out future trash. ;) Regards, - Bringingthewood (talk) 22:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

No offense intended at all. I just wanted to let you know the IP's actions were technically allowed, even if kinda crappy. I totally understand why you reverted too. :) EvergreenFir (talk) 04:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk page fmt

Sometimes, this is consensus —Bagumba (talk) 00:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I see you prefer visual over written communication.[2] lol—Bagumba (talk) 05:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Regis and Street Sign

Bringingthewood I agree, I live in Morris Park but yes, Regis was from Van Nest. I don't know why MP always took ownership of Regis. I've contributed to the Van Nest page significantly over the years. Good to meet you. TheBronxNYC (talk) 04:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

SB champs

I suppose some people wouldn't know what's a Super Bowl.[3]—Bagumba (talk) 02:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba Super Bowl? Ohhhh yeah, that's when they crown The Iditarod champion. @@ Bringingthewood (talk) 19:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Appreciation

Thanks for the kind words! Appreciate your contributions around here. May we make all of this better one edit at a time. Red Director (talk) 23:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Note

Sorry, I don't like reverting you but it happens sometimes. If you ever see any mistakes I make, feel free to pay me back, lol. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 HA! You would not believe how much I wanted to stay away from that one. I just couldn't, lol. I checked the infobox and this, http://www.arenafan.com/players/3929/, which stated WR only on top. Now I know about AFL positions, thanks for the tidbit. Btw, you don't make mistakes .. I just pretend that I know things. @@ - John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Don't waste your breath, I just scrolled down that page and saw his defensive stats. God forbid LB was put on top also. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Lol. Arenafan hasn't been working for me for some reason? Maybe I need to upgrade to Windows Vista. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 ROFL!! Sorry, I was going to call the paramedics, the pain due to laughing so hard. That was a good one. The reverts that bother me is when I remove something from an editor that was one before the last good edit. It looks like I disagreed with everyone. I did that to you also. You may want to revert a few more, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Thanks for the American addition to German-born. If I see a military born player, even though assuming gets ME in trouble, I could go that route. Should I amend Tody Smith? Not sure if there's an age limit for when they come to the U.S. or even become a citizen. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

If they're just military born, they're not really German. The Schwedes guy was actually from Germany. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:57, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 I was thinking the same thing. (Oh yes, you were born there ... but you're really not one of us). Weird s***. Now I see, homework had to be done at that page. Honestly, I thought you were going to drop by there anyway .. but just to remove the dash, lol. Maybe I'll just stick with the country I know about. Besides, that American to Gridiron football is starting to annoy me. But that's for another day. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Did you know...

... that Tim Layana was a baseball? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9. And a very round one at that! Thanks, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9: Now I caught some flak for my "former American" take, but this really is extreme —Bagumba (talk) 02:06, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Wow, that IP thought "American" meant American League. At least he's not a baseball anymore. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Yeah, the "baseball" seemed inadvertent from the "National" and other mess [4] (something I'm sure I've done similarly somewhere ha) —Bagumba (talk) 02:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

... that Granville Liggins used to be a football but is now a human? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Poor Granny. —Bagumba (talk) 18:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Steelers

Got us a wild IP on the talk page lol Red Director (talk) 01:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

You can say that again @Red Director. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:03, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Myles Garrett

Some IPs really want Garrett off the Browns lol Red Director (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

@Red Director Ha! I can't blame them. I wouldn't mind if he stood home until Watt retires .. but that's just me. ;) -- Thanks for always looking out. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I thought I recognized you

I just noticed that you're the same Bringingthewood from Answers.com. I was a supervisor on there as well. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@TornadoLGS Wow. I would say it's a small world, but this is a big place, lol. You've been here for quite a long time I see. I always wondered if someone would drop by one day. Were we doing that at the same time? You may have used a different username, I only remember some that I was in constant contact with. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I think we were. I remember you from the forum at the very least. I went by Stormish on that site. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@TornadoLGS I'll be a .. I looked at your name and user page and tried to think - storm related weather -. I do remember your name! You had to get a WikiAnniversary or two from me over the years. I do miss the trash can icon ... a lot easier to get rid of a vandal back then. I appreciate you dropping me a line. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Serial comma

I remember you asking about this earlier. MOS:SERIAL says either is okay. "ham, chips, and eggs – serial comma" or "ham, chips and eggs – no serial comma" Just FYI if you still wanted to know. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 HA, thank you for remembering! Now I'm kind of upset, I thought there was a real right or wrong. Myself, I'm leaving it alone, better that way because whoever does it .. is actually correct. ;/ Always appreciated, WO-9. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Country

I see you're dabbling in basketball. Nothing about patriotism, but if the country is present in the birthplace, the nationality can be removed if it's redundant e.g. someone born in the US being American (MOS:INFONAT). I fixed Dijon Thompson after your change. Happy editing. —Bagumba (talk) 07:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba I knew you would notice. What took you so long, lol? You removed the nationality last week on another one, and I was wondering if I should look out for that. So if I see American in the birthplace and for (Nationality: American) in the infobox, I will remove it. Have to say, the basketball pages are done very, very well and you get a 'big pat on the back' for all you did and are doing. That's why I'm sticking with only five things: (adding U.S., removing dupl. links, retired/former American, first name/month from caption, and MOS:THENICKNAME). Trust me, I don't want to tinker all that much over there ... you know what I mean. Drop by when I screw up and I'll minimize what I do. Promise. ;) Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:33, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba I may have to stick with 'American only' pages when removing that parameter. I just checked three foreign players, they have their nationality present in the lead and place of birth in the infobox .. but all have the nationality parameter present. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:48, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

There are countries that don't offer birth citizenship, but it's also possible that non-NBA editors didn't get the memo. —Bagumba (talk) 03:49, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba See, that first sentence already made my head hurt .. I stick with American. The memo you sent today works for me. I even used MOS: on some non-NBA pages. Regarding David Blu, I put back what I removed earlier. The U.S. is listed, but Israel was only in the lead sentence. I'm not going to throw a wrench in these pages, they're too neat. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:NOTCOMPULSORY indeed. —Bagumba (talk) 07:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Crazy

I've never seen someone take this long to get blocked before, lol. They were reported at WP:AIV 30 minutes ago. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they want to see if all of our new names were used up. I'll take knucklehead and numbskull .. but you're keeping porcupine!! Bringingthewood (talk) 06:43, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Ten more minutes and I'm waking up Charlene. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC) That could have been messy, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:48, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

That took longer than expected. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Bringingthewood and @WikiOriginal-9 thank you both for helping with that LTA, I’m a little surprised they lasted 40 minutes spamming those edits, but I appreciate you both helping to revert all of those as well (I’m also sorry for pinging you both). Keep up the good work you two! ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 06:52, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@ProClasher97: I've never seen anyone last that long before, lol. Guess all the admins are asleep. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Right back at you, PC97. No apology needed ... it was fun while it lasted. I was looking at the names he was giving us .. and started to slow down, lol. Maybe we'll catch up again. Regards, Bringingthewood (talk) 06:58, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Well Dearie .. I mean, Porcupine. Time for bed. P.S. I know someone heard me jiggle the closet handle. Charlene has a gift! ;) Bringingthewood (talk) 07:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

LOL ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 07:04, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Civility

You were asking at ANI for the rule applicable to others. See WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL: In the event of rudeness or incivility on the part of another editor, it may be appropriate to discuss the offending words with that editor, and to request that editor to change that specific wording. Some care is necessary, however, so as not to further inflame the situation. It is not normally appropriate to edit or remove another editor's comment. Exceptions include to remove obvious trolling or vandalism, or if the comment is on your own user talk page. Derogatory comments about another contributor may be removed by any editor. Thanks for carrying the stick. —Bagumba (talk) 04:06, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Joey Bosa

Looks like I got tricked by the fake report he was going to the 49ers. I reprimanded a poor IP for vandalism when they had it right :-( Red Director (talk) 15:05, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Red Director HA! I would never fault you for that. Last night was crazy! I agree with you, the 49ers .. his brother ... seemed like the perfect fit. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Joel Steed

I'll trust the Steelers fan on this. Otherwise, I always find it somewhat of a pain to source military brats and punt, leaving them as former Americans LOL.—Bagumba (talk) 07:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Honestly, I try to avoid these. I believe Steed is an American. But is it German-born in the lead, just a former professional American football player ...? I believe WO-9 was speaking to me about this in the past. If someone comes to the U.S. within a month or two, or even at two years old, .. he's really not German. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Here's another. Is Elnardo Webster really Italian, or just Italian-born? Bringingthewood (talk) 21:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't know Italian citizenship rules but I'd say no. It looks like his dad, Elnardo Webster (basketball), was playing basketball in Italy in 1969. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:05, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Ahh, so that's what he was doing over there, lol. Do you go with Italian-born .. or Italian born, however it should be? It's your edit if you want it. :) John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:11, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

I'd just put American. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:14, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 I'm with you. I guess when I see so many blank-born, I'm waiting for someone to ask me if I looked at the infobox. Not sure if this is where the whole Joel Steed lead was going. I'm all for getting into it with other editors, but I'd love it if the three of us could all agree on this. This way when you and/or @Bagumba revert something I did in error, it'll be a pleasant slap in the face. ;) Bringingthewood (talk) 22:28, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Knowing how much u love MOS, MOS:BIRTHPLACE says:

Birth and death places, if known, should be mentioned in the body of the article, and can appear in the lead if relevant to notability, but not in the opening brackets alongside the birth and death dates

—Bagumba (talk) 23:27, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Ahh, you do have a gift, B! I'm sticking with my original thought: 'I try to avoid these'. You and @WikiOriginal-9 have my blessing going forward. On the lighter side, the Muhammad Ali deal ended up on a pretty good note (lose the battle and win the war). Not sure if Sonny Liston will have the same fate. That MOS: really agitates people, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:43, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

I usually just kick the can down the road for now. Former-American Americans are low hanging fruit and a dime a dozen (but I did confirm one German-born as a true American recently). —Bagumba (talk) 23:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba The confirmation process does go a long way. I thought of you when I saw a retired American the other day. I wanted to change it to: is a retired American, now Italian, soon to be a German basketball player. Screw 'em if they can't take a joke. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:23, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I think we assume they did not renounce citizenship unless sources say otherwise. —Bagumba (talk) 03:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

High school (U.S.)

@Bagumba, @WikiOriginal-9, @Dissident93, @Hey man im josh. Any input on what I missed regarding this, you might as well tell me over here, I wasted enough space on B's page already. I apologize in advance if this was decided already and I missed it. Just going forward, I'd rather be on the same page with a handful of editors at least. Thanks, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:11, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

He's just talking about the standard infobox formatting for high schools. Nothing new. It's on most pages now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

That means, until today, U.S. is next to a U.S. high school .. and two players already don't have it. Did I just not see this addition? On my father, I never saw U.S. noted there. It's fine with me, but I was worried about army brats last week and see U.S. in my sleep, lol. Should Osi and Morten Andersen be added now? If someone removes them in the future should I argue first, link a consensus? Never saw it on an NFL page. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I find it redundant if the player was born in the U.S. and it's already displayed in |birth_place=. I can see it being added/kept for players born outside the U.S. like Mike Sainristil though. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9, @Dissident93 Understood. No way should it be listed again, it's like the wrestlers pages (billed from). I'm all for it and will get right on it. I just basically needed to know when I missed this memo. I'm not blind and I know I never saw this in the infobox before. As long as the majority go for it, I'll be in the right. I appreciate the feedback. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:40, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I've never seen US in the high school parameter before until just now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

LOL, I knew I grabbed the 80 proof and not the 151. That's all I needed to hear, WO-9!!! Thank you for that. Shame on you, it's U.S. lololol. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I've added country in cases where the HS's differs from the birthplace. —Bagumba (talk) 22:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Thank you, B. I will now do the same. Never saw it before, it makes sense, and I'll keep an eye out for them going forward. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

For a non-US example, Tom Nütten was born in US and went to HS in Canada. —Bagumba (talk) 23:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba. Well put. If it works like that, it should go for non-U.S. born players also. Sorry, but I have to use the periods. ;) Bringingthewood (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I can't take the full credit/blame for this, as Sebastian Vollmer has shown born in W. Germany and HS in Germany since at least 2018.[5] —Bagumba (talk) 23:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I can blame you for it .. I mean .. credit, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

And Cameron Johnston with Australia Australia since 2018.[6] —Bagumba (talk) 23:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Yeah, I have seen other countries listed there, but the U.S.? WO-9 bailed me out, I thought I was losing my mind, I never saw them either. Just U.S., that's all I'm talking about. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Whoever is reading this. I added U.S. to Ernie Stautner, the more I look at it, the more redundant it becomes. Like @Dissident93 mentioned above, if it's listed in the birth place, you wouldn't add it. How about when it's only the place of death? Three times seems a bit much. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Flip a coin. On the one hand, both HSs are in NY, so once is fine. On the other hand, we repeat country for birth and death places. Also, one wouldn't necessarily expect that a person died in the same country as they went to high school (compared to thinking someone went to HS matching their birth country). —Bagumba (talk) 01:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba It landed on heads, I left one for New York. It shortened the line again anyway. That pretty much answers the place of death question I had. Example, a player was born in Ireland, and high school was in the U.S. - simple. When that player dies in the U.S., we're not going back to remove it from the HS section. At least I hope not. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

List HS country only if it differs from birth place (independent of death place) —Bagumba (talk) 01:24, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Right, like Stautner's page. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Dodo Marmarosa

Regarding your edit on Dodo Marmarosa, the infobox template page I linked to states: "Omit the country if it does not differ from that specified at the field "birth_place"." Maybe that's different from sports pages, but it's clear about music biography pages, so US shouldn't be repeated in the Marmarosa infobox. EddieHugh (talk) 20:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@EddieHugh Thanks for the reply, Eddie. I realized after my revert, it's not your job to give me an explanation. It's the crazy rules we have that annoys me. Some pages one thing and others another. In the future, just revert what I do in case I hit the 'music biography' section by accident. Nothing personal. Thank you again and sorry for the inconvenience. Regards, Bringingthewood (talk) 21:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Comma

I don't know one way or the other, but I guess there is some grammar standard about circa and commas? —Bagumba (talk) 04:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Are we leading up to .... the 100 I saw with commas, before I started adding them (which was the reasoning I started to do that), are now wrong? Bringingthewood (talk) 04:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I dont know, was just asking. So it's Bozo in 2025 not Bozo, in 2025, but Bozo, c. 2025 not Bozo c. 2025. Definitely if it was a sentence before "c.", but not sure about one word. —Bagumba (talk) 04:36, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba You were asking ME ... now that's scary, lol. Honestly, the c. always looked like a middle initial to me. When I saw so many with commas, I went with it. I really thought I would have had an unhappy customer drop by well before your question. But I do know if there's a WP rule out there, you're the one to find it. ;) Then I will take yet another "A", myself and my token and board the train. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Was just curious. I'm not removing them, but probably won't be adding them either. As for middle initial, you could go hardcore and use {{circa}} per MOS:CIRCA to add the dotted line. —Bagumba (talk) 04:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Same here, I'm just going to stop. While that does sound like fun, I'm pretty much getting the most from MOS: right now. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? As always, I do appreciate the message. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:08, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Who knows what tomorrow will bring?: More rescued "former Americans" hopefully. Cheers. —Bagumba (talk) 05:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Don't forget about the former Canadians either ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

And the former Canadians who are really Americans. —Bagumba (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Quite a lot of those, less than there used to be tho ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, only a few hundred "former Canadians" compared to few thousand former Americans. But I think nobody went and created a page for anyone that played 1 CFL game. —Bagumba (talk) 05:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I Googled "comma before circa" and I literally got no results so I don't think anyone else knows the answer either. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I did notice this Featured article review where someone said "I'd put a comma before "ca. 1890" in the caption" and it looks like it is still in the article. lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 Thanks for all the info. Bottom line, what that means to me is: John, you better quit while you're ahead!!! Bringingthewood (talk) 05:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Better safe than sorry ... lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 05:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Not saying it's wrong, but that it just seems "weird" when there's just one word and then a comma. —Bagumba (talk) 05:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba I agree. But when I saw so many done that way .. I figured weird was the way to go. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

The "ca." didn't age well. MOS:CIRCA reads "c. is preferred over circa, c, ca, ca. ..." Immediate WP:FAR!—Bagumba (talk) 05:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Forget aging, it dies with me tonight. Unless I had to add it to a caption. Let's hope that day is far, far away. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Dup links

Hi there. For something like this, if the high school name (Lancaster) is the same as the birthplace (Lancaster) and located in the birthpace (Lancaster), there's no need to repeat the city again. It more or less says that at Template:Infobox NFL biography. I went and tweaked it. —Bagumba (talk) 05:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@Bagumba Thank you for that, B. It was one of the many things I thought about for months. As you know, I don't always read ahead. I do use the WP: link for other edit summaries. I'll correct them going forward. Thank you, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:11, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

As always, no pressure. —Bagumba (talk) 02:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)