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Original sin as a central theme in Conservatism

I'd like to see the concept of original sin being given a highlight on this page. The notion of original sin or in its secularised form 'human imperfection' has impacted both conservative tendencies as well as conservative philosophical systems, this fact has been distinguished by the Polish political scientist and scholar of conservatism Adam Wielomski.

To quote the following article: https://konserwatyzm.pl/wielomski-idea-wolnosci-u-josepha-de-maistrea/ >'Wolność absolutna nie jest możliwa z powodu o charakterze teologiczno-antropologicznym. Jest nim grzech pierworodny. Refleksja konserwatywna zawsze przykładała do niego wielką wagę (nazywając ten problem wprost w ten sposób lub rozważając kwestię ułomności ludzkiej)' >'Absolute freedom is not possible due to a problem of a theologico-anthrological character. That being original sin. Conservative introspection always attached to it a great weight ([either] calling this problem by this name or by considering the question of human defection).'

He is not alone in defining conservatism in terms of original sin and mentions the work of José Rafael Hernández Arias in the form of Donoso Cortés und Carl Schmitt. Eine Untersuchung über die Staats- und rechtsphilosophische Bedeutung von Donoso Cortés im Werk Carl Schmitts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanclerz K-Tech (talk • contribs) 19:43, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously? As above, this template is absolutely not the appropriate place to provide this kind of information. The article Original sin barely even mentions conservatism, so you must first discuss any such additions at Talk:Original sin instead. Once that article properly supports that original sin is specifically central to conservatism, then discuss there whether or not this template belongs. Until this change has consensus at that article, I block consensus on adding it to this template. Grayfell (talk) 19:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

alright Kanclerz K-Tech (talk) 10:58, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2022

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2800:200:E630:106E:C1C4:8F81:6E4F:9FE8 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding "Fujimorism" as a Peruvian variant of conservatism

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jack Frost (talk) 13:09, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding my reformatting of "Intellectuals"

I still do maintain that many of the thinkers currently included are quite marginal and do not necessarily belong in a global template for conservatism as of now. The best course of actions as it now presents itself to me:

(1) restore the list of intellectuals that I came up with

... while I'd...:

(2) remove my idiosyncratic country labels
(3) restore the original ordering by chronology
- At that, however, I'd further suggest picking one major work in the invisible comment respectively and dating them accordingly...

Would that be more acceptable? Biohistorian15 (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ideas about minimizing Eurocentrism

@Trakking, you recently undid my addition of various Islamic theorists.[1] Excluding my very boilerplate literature section for good now, what speaks against including conservative Islam a fair bit more? Sure, it can't just be Islamic theology... and in that case, my lesser-known suggestions easily become notable enough for inclusion.

Other than that, we could surely include some intellectuals and politicians from e.g.: Template:Conservatism in China and Japan, right? Biohistorian15 (talk) 09:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have already added Mishima from Japan. And we have added Qutb as a prominent representative from the Islamic world. If you can find a valuable representative from China, please add him. Now that you’re speaking of it, I just noticed that Shinzo Abe is not included among Politicians. I’m adding him immediately! Trakking (talk) 10:07, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2024

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As long as this request does not violate WP:NPOV, change the following:

* [[Right-wing politics]]
** [[Right-wing authoritarianism|Authoritarianism]]
** [[Far-right politics|Far]]
** [[New Right|New]]

to:

* [[Right-wing politics]]
** [[Right-wing authoritarianism|Authoritarianism]]
** [[Far-right politics|Far]]
** [[New Right|New]]
** [[Alt-right|Alt]]

67.209.130.72 (talk) 21:28, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Note that there was a discussion above some years ago about whether this should be added a conservative ideology, but it's now listed under the "related topic" of right-wing politics. I also added it alphabetically to align with the other entries. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 07:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]