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Did you know... that after Los Angeles Spanish-language TV station KMEX-TV discovered that 15 percent of its viewers did not know the language, it added Spanish courses to its programming?

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Affiliation Change

For most of its existence, the station served as an Univision affiliate but became the Univision affiliate for Los Angeles on July 1, 2006, following the defection of long-time Telemundo station KVEA to Univision.

I moved this content here for further discussion/evaluation because it is confusing. The date stated is in the future. Additionally, a check of KMEX-TV's website still shows an Univision affiliation. It's unclear what this content is trying to convey.Tobycat , 03:38 12 January 2006 (UTC)

That makes no sense, as KMEX-TV is owned by Univision and KVEA is owned by NBC Universal. I asked around to a couple people I know who work at both stations and it is not true in any way. -- FunkyChicken! 03:39, January 12, 2006 (UTC)

Univision never thought of changing affiliations, they have a partnership to ease the competition with a Telemundo affiliate. They share an agreement with Televisa of Mexico, which is up against Azteca America, KAZA channel 54 and LATV, KJLA channel 57. The L.A. area is said to have the largest Hispanic population in the continental United States, in addition to transmissions into the Palm Springs, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Bakersfield and Yuma, Az. TV markets. KMEX-TV decidedly to remain Univision instead of going independent, because KMEX is owned completely by Univision and doesn't desire to be Telemundo.+ 71.102.3.86 (talk) 16:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KMEX had a translator K39DW (shut down in 2016) for the Victorville, California area, but I believe it's now on Channel 33 (formerly a TBN turned independent station KVVB moved its programs to K55CW 34). KMEX had translators on channels 26 and 48 in the San Diego area in the 1980s-90s- also were TBN affiliates, and even channel 63 (KEXV) now 40 in Palm Springs, California area. It's interesting both the US' first major city Spanish-language and Christian program TV stations had relationships with each other in Southern California in the 1960s-70s. 67.49.85.100 (talk) 00:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of newscast schedules?

To all editors, please see the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Newscast_schedules.2C_redux, where the issue of removing locally originated programming schedules is discussed. Calwatch 05:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Why KMEX succeeded in TV ratings

I want to address this issue on KMEX-TV's reputation being the #1 rated television station in the Los Angeles area in any language. KMEX-TV's common cable channel in most of the L.A. area is channel 3. In the 1980s and 1990s, when television sets used VCRs at the time - one who wants to play a VHS tape have to use channel 3 to have the video play. KMEX may have a high rating more because of VCRs! However, KMEX-TV set the stage for a thriving Hispanic/Latino and other ethnic media in the US we have today. KMEX-TV has a subchannel Bounce TV for African-American viewers and rumor has it KMEX negotiates a deal with returning Urban America Television network, a 2000s television network aimed at ethnic (Latino and African-American, as well Asian and Middle Eastern) viewers. Back then, UAT had over-air stations in Fresno and San Luis Obispo, California, and was on cable in the LA and SF Bay areas. Not surprisingly, KMEX is on over-air channel 3 via K39DW-D the translator for the Mojave Desert region. Univision (formerly SIN - Spanish Independent Network) used to have an Inland Empire, California affiliate KBLM-LP channel 25 in the 1980s-early 90s, but these two regions are part of the Los Angeles area TV market. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:83B:D708:FFFA:74BC (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 22:28, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Lede

Lede sentence is a bit clumsy - KMEX-DT, virtual and UHF digital channel 34,. Couldn't we talk about the channels a bit later in the lede?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Spanish-language Univision television network - WP:SEAOFBLUE.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
also West Coast flagship station. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:11, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You might gather I did not write much of the lead... It's been my experience that sometimes leads get, ahem, changed. The channels do belong on line 1, see below. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

pioneering Spanish-language station, paving the way for other such stations and networks in the United States; - bit POV. ^{[according to whom?]}Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to have at least a sentence covering what the station actually covers (news and sports)Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done (sports might be undue to put in the lead but not news)

General

The bid of Spanish International Television presaged that of Spanish International Broadcasting Company six years later; - is presaged the right word here?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Many of the same principals were involved. It's a notable precursor to the group that built the station. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That October, however, the radio station dropped its bid.- why?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No reason was given in any source I could find. Most likely they realized "this is not going to make us much money". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The body uses "Channel 34" a lot, - "build a channel 34 station", does the number matter?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very much so. You will also see at times in US media the use of channel number as metonymy for the station: "Oh, there's a new show on Channel 7..." Even some of the Spanish-language sources do this if you look at some of the titles that have "Canal 34" in them. US television is not the UK (WP:TVS did not have BBC One in its scope until recently) at all.

I use "channel XX" to reduce the number of times I have to recite the call letters in the article to refer to the station.
For some stations, their channel number is very relevant because historically, television stations on channels 14 and above had a unique set of challenges. See UHF television broadcasting. I have some 30 DYKs (and now a GA, WNAO-TV) on stations in the 1950s that went kaput because of such challenges.

I'd link Bullfighting Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

which prompted some controversy - unless you are going to say what it was, don't mention this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

From the start - not needed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Link NFL Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

U.S.–Mexico - MOS:US. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

audacious^{[according to whom?]} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Sports broadcasting starts from 2016, but the history says " sports announcer for the station in 1964". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's because the section focuses on local sports. The station would have had sports presenters for the news (including, you guessed it, Villanueva) and national sports broadcasts from the network, so this is not the disconnect it may seem.

The station's digital signal is multiplexed: - this doesn't really explain anything about the table.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't, but it also is bog-standard. You will find that exact sentence in thousands of these pages.

Ridgecrest: K17HY-D - why do we have an external link in the body?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That link goes to an FCC page with technical information on the translator. Some stations have a lot of these (luckily this is not Utah where some stations have 100+ associated translators). This has come up at other discussions for GA: cf Talk:KTVK/GA1 and this discussion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:28, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lee Vilenski: I've made many of the suggested changes. Some of these are topic-level issues (let's just say with each GA I do, I end up with some non-notable anchor at prod or AfD and some sort of formatting change suggestion to the field). The external link issue requires a bit more care, and I've linked some prior precedent on that topic. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a couple changes to the read to make it easier for someone not familiar with the subject. Passing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after Los Angeles Spanish-language TV station KMEX-TV discovered that 15 percent of its viewers did not know the language, it added courses in Spanish to its programming? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88255888/he-found-chink-in-vhf-armor/
- ALT1: ... that in 1990, KMEX-TV in Los Angeles accounted for nearly 10 percent of all advertising revenue of Hispanic broadcast and print media in the United States? Source: ProQuest
- ALT2: ... that after retiring from the NFL, kicker Danny Villanueva became an executive at Spanish-language TV station KMEX-TV in Los Angeles? Source: various
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Angel Joy Chavis Rocker

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 23:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Article was recently promoted to GA and is easily long enough. I do not see any policy or copyright issues (only hit from a copyright check is a direct quote which is properly attributed). I've checked that all 3 hooks are cited in the article and interesting. QPQ done. Happy to approve! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 to T:DYK/P3