Talk:Scoria
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INTRUSIVE OR EXTRUSIVE?
editThe title says my question: is it intrusive or extrusive? (I'm not completely sure by the article because I can't understand the super-scientific stuff. It should be put on more clearly.
Fear The Hams.-- 23:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Extrusive. It is erupted out of volcanoes. Guanlong wucaii 06:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)Guanlongwucaii
Yes it is extrusive, but actually represents splatter. If it is hot enough it will weld together, it can form loose slopses and sometimes if the wind is strong enough it can be blown downwind, giving scoria cones an elevated summit downwind of the vent.The Geologist (talk) 16:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
MOH'S HARDNESS SCALE
editAlso, what is it on the Moh's Scale?
Fear The Hams.-- 23:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
talc is one, diamond is ten. if you can scratch it with a fingernail it is about three, scratches a copper coin 5, scrtatches steel knife 7 (quartz) Russjass (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
All the scoria I have tested has scratched my knife. Thereby proving what RussJass has stated.The Geologist (talk) 16:42, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Gas grills
editI believe this is the type of rock that is used in gas grills. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? ANDROS1337 21:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Gas grill use many different types of rock. Often what the manufacturer or supplier call "rock" is anything but. For example many kitchen tops are sold as "granite" but are more often "Gneiss, Migmatites, Basalts," but try and get the supplier to call it by its correct name is impossible. Also I believe that some wall cavity insulation is call rock wool!The Geologist (talk) 16:41, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Name
editThe term "Scoria" is ancient Greek in origin and actually means "DUNG" as in dung-heaps. It was so named because it resembles dung heaps. Whilst many scoria cones are red this is by no means unique to them, more typically many scoria cones are black. The reason is chemical the red cones are composed of oxidised iron - FE2O3, whereas the black cones are reduced iron - FeO. Some scoria cones also exhibit a section of oxidised and reduced iron and are often interpreted as having been erupted through water.The Geologist (talk) 16:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
There is no Information about Reticulite
editReticulite redirects to Scoria, but Scoria no longer describes reticulite. From 11:37, 17 May 2006 to 14:44, 27 October 2010 Scoria did have an unsourced paragraph about it, but it was deleted without comment on 18:27, 7 November 2010 by 173.81.97.71.
Current research describes Reticulite as a type of pumice or tephra derived from magma, not from scoria. Perhaps a Reticulite article should be created with just a reference to it from Scoria. The Pyroclastic Rock article should probably also have a link to Reticulite.
Some current references for reticulite are:
James Van Gundy. Earth Science Picture of the Day: June 01, 2010 Reticulite. http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2010/06/reticulite.html
James St. John. Reticulite (thread-lace scoria) (unrecorded high-fountain eruption of Kilauea Volcano's East Rift Zone, Hawaii) https://www.flickr.com/photos/jsjgeology/14838947530 The photo is available in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reticulite_from_Kilauea_volcano_in_Hawaii.jpg
Richard Harwood. EARTH SCIENCE LAB: Volcanic Materials Identification, 2011. http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/GEOL101/Labs/VolcanicMaterials/
Rust, A. C.; Cashman, K. V. Reticulite, Scoria and Lava: Foam Formation in Hawaiian Fire Fountain Eruptions. American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2006, abstract #V43A-1778. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.V43A1778R
Margaret T. Mangan, Katharine V. Cashman. The structure of basaltic scoria and reticulite and inferences for vesiculation, foam formation, and fragmentation in lava fountains. Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research Volume 73, Issues 1–2, September 1996, Pages 1-18. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0377027396000182
K.V. Cashman, A.C. Rust, H.M. Wright. Pattern and structure of basaltic reticulite: foam formation in lava fountains. Geophysical Research Abstracts, Vol. 8, 05398, 2006 SRef-ID: 1607-7962/gra/EGU06-A-05398
David Darling. Reticulate. The World of Science. http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/R/reticulite.html
Alison Rust, Katharine V. Cashman. Reticulite, Scoria and Lava: Foam Formation in Hawaiian Fire Fountain Eruptions. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253423480_Reticulite_Scoria_and_Lava_Foam_Formation_in_Hawaiian_Fire_Fountain_Eruptions
Reticulite. http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/Thumblinks/Reticulite_page.html
Hawaian Volcano Observatory. Almost nothing is enough: reticulite helps measure depth of Kilauea's caldera 500 years ago. Volcano News: September 6, 2007. http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_09_06.htmlhttp://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_09_06.htmlhttp://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_09_06.html
-- Allan Moluf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:78C3:DB00:CD92:647C:AF70:107 (talk) 18:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also, the article about Sideromelane has a picture which in wikimedia is labed "reticulite". It should probably xref either this article on scoria, or an article on reticulite if that becomes available. Mcswell (talk) 00:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Merger proposal
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Unanimous consensus to merge
I propose merging Cinder into Scoria. Both article leads declare that the two terms, scoria and cinder, are effectively interchangeable in geologic usage and that scoria is the preferred term. This also seems appropriate because scoria has relatively few other uses while cinder has many other uses. I further propose moving Cinder (disambiguation) to Cinder once the merge is complete. Kent G. Budge (talk) 19:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support, if they are interchangeable, they should be one article. ---Lilach5 (לילך5) discuss 20:10, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support, As said above, "...if they are interchangeable, they should be one article." I am unable justify having separate articles. Paul H. (talk) 21:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support with final article titled "Scoria". Per WP:ARTICLETITLE, I believe that "Cinder" and "Scoria" are equally good for 4 of the 5 criteria, but "Scoria" is more precise. — hike395 (talk) 07:12, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support merging of Cinder into Scoria. GeoWriter (talk) 22:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support your plan - the move of the disambiguation is important though. I am surprised that the usage of cinder for cold combusted debris in e.g. a fireplace is underplayed on these pages in general. My first instinct is that embers are hot/glowing, and cinders are cold. Cinders are what Cinderella swept from her fireplace! Perhaps this is UK vs US usage problems. But regardless, plan is good. DanHobley (talk) 15:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Where to find scoria?
editWhere is scoria commonly found? 14.137.210.176 (talk) 09:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)