Talk:Antigua

Wadadli

It is also known as Wadadli, from the original Amerindian inhabitants, and means approximately "our own".[citation needed]

I used to work a few months on the island, and heard Wadadli more in the meaning like warrior. Can anyone confirm this? By the way: Wadadli is also a slendid type of local beer. I highly recommend it, along with Carib and Red Stripe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.4.146.54 (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Chief Towns?

To user 65.19.76.218

I am curious why you changed the entry on Antigua that read 'The three chief towns are St John's, Parham and Falmouth' to 'St John's, All Saints and Liberta'. That might be true in population terms but I don't think that is the gist of the article. Liberta and All Saints are bedroom communities whilst Parham and Falmouth are industrial and commerce centres as well. Unless you can substanciate that edit, or we re-word that paragraph to be clearer than it is then I would suggest we change that edit back to the way it was. Adam777 15:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply on my talk page. As the 'Chief towns' is a very ambiguous term then perhaps that line can be adjusted to reflect that St John's, Liberta and All Saints are the three largest population centres according to the last census (and perhaps include their respective populations). Parham could be highlighted as it was the original capital of Antigua as well as its industrial base and Falmouth/English Harbour obviously for its prominence in the Yachting world. Will you take care of the change to the chief towns entry? Adam777 17:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

God forsaken hell hole

I reverted that addition by an anon editor. Nelson never actually set foot in Antigua so I cant see how he formed an opinion on it one way or the other. Adam777 12:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Geography

What are the elevation extremes? Drahcir^{my talk} 01:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Jamaica Kincaid' sporting achivements

Why is Ms Kincaid's writings about Antigua under the Sports section? And she is also listed under residents when she is nothing of the kind, to the best of my knowledge she has never returned here after leaving as a child. Perhaps we need a literary section to correctly cover her links to Antigua....any thoughts? Adam777 13:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Customs?

What were the customs in Antigua during the late 1950's and early 1960's??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.110.138.72 (talk) 02:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Mostly it’s beaches, foods, and some left for wind rush 146.90.176.87 (talk) 12:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Guam

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USA has just announced it trashes GATS treaty starting 1st September 2007. US invasion starts 5th September 2007, George Herbert Walker Bush has just signed the executive order for "Operation Eggnog" (a tongue-in-cheek reference to Reagan's 1983 invasion of the pro-cuban island of Granada). Afterwards half of the island will be leased for a permanent USAF base for 99 years for 5000USD/year. There is a reason America's military motto is: "Don't thread on me!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.210.162 (talk) 07:33, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Lord Nelson

The section on Lord Nelson at the moment is quite badly written. It looks like it was cribbed from elsewhere, it uses the same quote twice, and it is not in keeping with the tone of the article or of wikipedia. I don't know enough about the subject to clean it up though. 121.45.34.183 00:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Page Structure

Hey, Just thinking the page layout for is unlike the standard that other countries/regions etc take within wikipedia. Unfortunately my skills are poor to say the least so if anyone who is more capable that I could rectify it into a more standard form that would be great! Euanmoo 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Flag

Why is there not a picture of Antigua's Flag with their Countries Motto?

I have just signed up to this site and I don't really know my way around yet. Please could someone add these details to Antigua. --Cardella 10:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really familiar with all this stuff, but my guess would be because its not a country. Antigua and Barbuda has the flag/motto stuff. Bawolff (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Is this a tourist piece?

In light of recent events, perhaps more attention on government and crime is called for.Ykral (talk) 14:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Government?

There doesn't seem to be any information regarding the type of government in Antigua. Might someone add this? Basket of Puppies 06:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Now, a year after that comment, as conditions have turned for the worse, it is IMHO time to reveal what is going on here.

Pronunciation

I was going to comment on the "An-TEE-gwa" pronunciation as being inappropriate, even though I acknowledge that WP is a predominantly US-driven site.

Having come to edit and seen that the page is supposedly written in British English, then this should be removed. British English would never be An-TEE-gwa, but as the local An-TEE-ga. 195.88.237.18 (talk) 16:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I've corrected it. "An-TEE-gwa" isn't correct in American English either. It's a fairly rare spelling pronunciation. AHD simply has the wrong end of the stick. Angr (talk) 07:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Curious. Since Christopher Columbus (according to Wikipedia) named the island 'Antigua' and he was from Spain, then why wouldn't the pronounciation be 'An-TEE-gwa'  ?Mylittlezach (talk) 16:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Disputed slave conspiracy of 1736

[1] Kittybrewster ☎ 22:42, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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As it stands this is a very poorly written entry.

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An old lack of logic

The following sentences were added by an IP a decade ago, within a quite large contribution to the article, here:

According to A Brief History of the Caribbean, European and African diseases, malnutrition and slavery eventually destroyed the vast majority of the Caribbean's native population. No researcher has conclusively proven any of these causes as the real reason for the destruction of West Indian natives. In fact, some historians believe that the psychological stress of slavery may also have played a part in the massive number of native deaths while in servitude. Others believe that the reportedly abundant, but starchy, low-protein diet may have contributed to severe malnutrition of the "Indians" who were used to a diet fortified with protein from sea-life.

The paragraph is still there, with little change, but some "unsourced" templates.

@Maherkr and Hmains: There was a brief skirmish about the second sentence some weeks ago, here and here. Now, after reading the full contribution of the IP, I do not at all find it clear that the contested sentence was intended as "racist claptrap", but nor I find its removal "unhelpful" or "disruptive". Instead, I find the paragraph unclear or illogical. The point of the next sentence is to specify precisely how either slavery or malnutrition may have been the cause of the demise of the major part of the indigenous population. This should not be put into contrast with the hypothesis that those were among the main causes, as now seems to be the case.

I do not know whether the second sentence is part of a synthesis from the given source, or is the conclusions of the IP. In the first case, one possible explanation could be, that the source wanted to stress that no single cause alone has been established for the (near) extinction. Indeed, if some historians advocate slavery as a major cause, and other propose malnutrition, then one of these has not been conclusively proven as the cause. However, if this really is the intended meaning, then the paragraph is rather unclearly written. The "In fact" and "also" in the next sentence also clashes with this interpretation.

If, on the other hand, either the IP or other editors would take differences of opinion on whether slavery or malnutrition alone may have been the main cause as a pretext for doubting that diseases, malnutrition and slavery together were the main causes, then this would not only be OR, but also grossly illogical. Therefore, I believe that either the paragraph should be rewritten to make it stress that the doubt only concerns which one of the factors which is the main cause, or it should essentially be edited according to Maherkr's suggestion. I do not have access to the source, which makes it harder to decide which option is best.

I've tried to explain the problem I see as precisely as possible, and apologise if this has damaged the accessibility of my explanation. JoergenB (talk) 12:35, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

• I have no particular knowledge of this subject. It now seems that my revert may have been meant for something else/someone else. Please continue working on this article as you see fit. Hmains (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

OK; I'll try to remove the contradiction, and replace the 'synthesis' with just a remark about the existence of various suggestions about details. JoergenB (talk) 10:42, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Clean up.

Partly copyedited by GOCE in October 2019 but much of the prose remains less formal than it should be - as if written for Simple English Wiki. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Mainland

I tagged an use of the word "mainland" with {{Where}} in the "Early Antiguans" subsection. The context is unclear. Does the word refer to North or South America or another island? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:35, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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Recent history

The Cameroonian migrants stranded on an island they had not heard of - BBC News 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:346B:BF9F:F25B:F90E (talk) 04:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Etymology

I have created an Etymology section, and moved etymological info there.

When looking for citations related to why Columbus named the island Santa Maria de la Antigua, I discovered that many sources claim it's named after the "church in Seville" by that name. However, the church/cathedral in Seville is Santa María de la Sede ('Saint Mary of the See'), not Santa Maria de la Antigua. So I've added some info and additional citations related to other claims: that it's named after the image of Santa Maria de la Antigua (in the Seville Cathedral) or the chapel in the Seville Cathedral.

If someone could look at my additions and provide any feedback or suggestions, that would be appreciated. Thanks!! CareAhLine (talk) 21:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)