Talk:Anglican Communion
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Suspension of the Episcopal Church?
editJust a question: Should the recent "suspension" of the Episcopal Church in the United States be a section on this article under the topic controversies? JustTryintobeJust (talk) 21:00, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Archbishop Justin Welby clarified that the Episcopal Church is not suspended because the Primates' Meeting has no legal power to do that. "the Primates' meeting has no legal authority over Provinces."[1] SeminarianJohn (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)SeminarianJohn
It seems like it's still a controversy, no? afuller2028 (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Archbishop Welby briefs ACC members..." anglicannews.org. Anglican News. Retrieved April 28, 2016.
Origins of Scottish Episcopal Church
editThis article should make it clearer that the Scottish Episcopal Church is not an offshoot of the Church of England. Also after the USA's separatist rebellion was successful, the English church cut off the Episcopal Church there and it was through the efforts of Scottish Episcopalians that it got back on its feet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.162.96 (talk) 20:36, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Map ??
editI find the map puzzling. What are "autonomous churches" in distinction to the other provinces?? I do not find that in the article. Is it supposed to mean something like "national provinces" differentiated from "supernational" ones? Kipala (talk) 06:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
revert
editwhy was my edit reverted? 89.139.53.155 (talk) 04:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Original research
editAn editor recently made some major revisions that are based on original research, particularly regarding membership and structure. For example, although the citations say the Anglican Church of Southern Africa has 3 - 4 million members.The editor changed it to 2.5 million. It would be helpful if other editors could go through the article and check the cited sources and make sure it's lining up with what has been changed. They've also changed the definition of membership for some of the churches seemingly based on original research. For example, the Church of England is well-known to have about 25 million baptised members. The CofE does not distinguish between inactive and active members (similar to how the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox also report their baptised membership without distinguishing). However, an editor came up with around 8 million despite the cited sources saying 25-26 million. Thank you, other editors, for helping to watch and maintain the article.SeminarianJohn (talk) 22:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Dear @SeminarianJohn, There is no original research. All the figures added are sourced. The Church of England claims to have 26 million. This figure has been retained. However, there is another, independent source (http://web.archive.org/web/20200716233930/https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/media/39293/1_bsa36_religion.pdf), published in 2012, which claims that only 12% of the UK population (7,975,200 in that year) identify as members of the Church of England. Therefore, both the minimum and maximum figures have been retained. The figures for the Church of Southern Africa are based on the World Council of Churches (https://www.oikoumene.org/member-churches/anglican-church-of-southern-africa) which now actually reports 2,300,000. The number "3-4 million" is in the other source. And both are there now.
- None of this is "original research." The numbers are all based on some source, which has been added to the article.
- In all cases, the minimum and maximum numbers have been left out, since there are different sources with different figures for the number of Anglicans in each place. This is perfectly normal for an encyclopedia, since data from independent sources is also useful in addition to the primary sources. Daniel Silva Mendanha (talk) 18:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think you addressed some of my concerns and I am in agreement with the level of cooperation present at this time. My concern was with selectively choosing lower numbers for some provinces while selecting higher numbers for others, when multiple RS are readily available. That has since been addressed by my edits, your edits, and others' edits. SeminarianJohn (talk) 19:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Original research is calling the Anglican Communion the fourth-largest communion when the consensus of RS across the board, can't find a single RS that says otherwise, says it is the third-largest. I appreciate other editors watching this.SeminarianJohn (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think you addressed some of my concerns and I am in agreement with the level of cooperation present at this time. My concern was with selectively choosing lower numbers for some provinces while selecting higher numbers for others, when multiple RS are readily available. That has since been addressed by my edits, your edits, and others' edits. SeminarianJohn (talk) 19:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)