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Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

10 Feb 2015

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Attendees

Present
Joshue, Loretta, David, EricE, cstrobbe, Kenny, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, AWK
Regrets
Katie, Marc, Kathy, KathyW, MarcJ, KatieHS, MoeK, JonA
Chair
AWK
Scribe
, David

Contents

<trackbot> Date: 10 February 2015

<Kenny> botie, inform Joshue the meeting kicked up, also agenda

<botie> will do

<Kenny> botie, inform AWK the meeting kicked up, also agenda

<botie> will do

<Joshue108> botie, inform Kenny that he is very diligent

<botie> will do

<Joshue108> Chair: Joshue/AWK

<botie> Kenny, at 2015-02-10 15:44 UTC, Joshue108 said: he is very diligent

<David> Scribe:

<David> Scribe: David

Publication update and approval to publish

<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Tutorials_and_more/results

Charter update

Publication update and approval to publish

Resolution: WG approves to Publish images and form tutorials

<botie> AWK, at 2015-02-10 15:44 UTC, Kenny said: the meeting kicked up, also agenda

<yatil> https://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/images/complex/

Eric: Appreciated all the feedback, I think we also have longdesc solution

<Joshue108> DavidMcD: Can I get some clarification on the approaches?

ERIC: Longdesc, recommending a link near the image...
... LD suport FF right click view description, but not notification of a Longdesc
... Longdesc extension, same with Firefox, what was lacking is mobile platforms

<Joshue108> DavidMcD: Do you have a matrix on a test page with SR and browser behaviours?

David: Do you have a test page for LongDesc

ERIC: We polled people we know who use it

<Joshue108> https://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/images/complex/

<Joshue108> JOC: So this longdesc work is good to go now?

David: I haven't reviewed the Longdesc situation, since its new

<Joshue108> EE: Yes, feedback has been positive.

ERIC: like MathML, Longdesc is working ...

<Joshue108> +q

<Joshue108> -q to ask about the status of the Table tutorial schedule

<Joshue108> +q to ask about the status of the Table tutorial schedule

<Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to ask about the status of the Table tutorial schedule

David: Oongdesc doesn't work in any iOS or Macbook

ERIC: will make note of that

s/Ongdesc/Longdesc

Charter update

<cstrobbe> This is the most recent draft, right? http://www.w3.org/2013/04/draft-wcag-charter

List update – Using Call for Consensus

Charter update

Joshue: Michael says update on charter in a couple of days

List update – Using Call for Consensus

Michael: Charter is with the director, expect it soon

Josh: Will use list a lot more, in future

Michael: We can use list for a call for consensus, that is part of the plan. lots of preedent. Subject line CALL FOR CONSENSUS, time window for assent or object, some use 2 work days of 7 calendar days
... Some back with telecom, some don't... we'll document a proposal and take to the group
... Changing the way the list works, have spoken with those who might be removed, some emails not valid, haven't removed people yet but might happen in a few days
... Andrew would like to update that that will be when we use the list more

<Joshue108> DavidMcD: Will we be dropping our number of calls etc?

Michael: want to change this to a one hour call in near future
... calls are valuable for group cohesion but not good for wordsmithing, calls should only be used for situations where we can't use other modalities

David: Survey items

<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Tutorials_and_more/results

RESOLUTION: Accept LC2952 as proposed

<Joshue108> action-2952, response approved

<Joshue108> action-2952 response approved

<Joshue108> action-301

<trackbot> action-301 -- David MacDonald to Look at lc2952 -- due 2014-12-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/301

<Joshue108> action-301 discussed on call

<Joshue108> action-301, discussed on call

<Joshue108> action-301: Discussed on call response approved 10th Feb 2015

<trackbot> Notes added to action-301 Look at lc2952.

<Joshue108> close action-301

<trackbot> Closed action-301.

<Joshue108> action-9: David to write up something and put response on Github

<trackbot> Notes added to action-9 Draft advisory technique, \"Opening new windows and tabs only when best from an accessibility perspective\".

<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/open?sort=owner

<Loretta> I need to leave early.

<Joshue108> close action-302

<trackbot> Closed action-302.

<Joshue108> close action-300

<trackbot> Closed action-300.

<Joshue108> action-287

<trackbot> action-287 -- David MacDonald to Follow-up on aside technique -- due 2014-10-21 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/287

<Joshue108> close action 287

<Joshue108> close action-287

<trackbot> Closed action-287.

<jamesn> ACTION-131?

<trackbot> ACTION-131 -- James Nurthen to Document technique starting from http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/CSS/Using_an_invisible_header_text_in_the_sidebar_navigation, using comments in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20010623misc/results#xnavhead -- due 2011-07-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/131

<Joshue108> action-131

<trackbot> action-131 -- James Nurthen to Document technique starting from http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/CSS/Using_an_invisible_header_text_in_the_sidebar_navigation, using comments in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20010623misc/results#xnavhead -- due 2011-07-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/131

<Joshue108> action-131: James doesn't think this is valuable

<trackbot> Notes added to action-131 Document technique starting from http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/CSS/Using_an_invisible_header_text_in_the_sidebar_navigation, using comments in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20010623misc/results#xnavhead.

James: I took action 131 but I don't want hidden text headings, shouldn't do it anymore, labels better on nav

<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20010623misc/results#xnavhead

James: will close my action 131

JOSH: OK

<Joshue108> action-296

<trackbot> action-296 -- Joshue O Connor to Ping the cog a11y tf for feedback on https://www.w3.org/wai/gl/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/g162 -- due 2014-11-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/296

<Joshue108> action-190

<trackbot> action-190 -- James Nurthen to Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 -- due 2013-01-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/190

I just completed https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/168

<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/F30.html

<Loretta> lc-2723

<jamesn> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/H67.html

<jamesn> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/H67.html

Version of WCAG WAYYYYY back h67, but test technique needs to be fixed

<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/2723?cid=2723

<jamesn> Check that alt attribute is present and empty or contains only whitespace (but not &nbsp;)

<Joshue108> action-190

<trackbot> action-190 -- James Nurthen to Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 -- due 2013-01-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/190

<Joshue108> action-190: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/2723?cid=2723

<trackbot> Notes added to action-190 Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30.

<jamesn> change to Check that alt attribute is present and empty

<Joshue108> action-190: This relates more to H67

<trackbot> Notes added to action-190 Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30.

<jamesn> I am fine with that being editorial

David: yes editorial

<Joshue108> action-287

<trackbot> action-287 -- David MacDonald to Follow-up on aside technique -- due 2014-10-21 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/287

<Joshue108> action-287: Completed

<trackbot> Notes added to action-287 Follow-up on aside technique.

<Joshue108> close, action-287

<Joshue108> close action-287

<trackbot> Closed action-287.

<Joshue108> action-168

<trackbot> action-168 -- David MacDonald to Look at understanding 1.4.5 to add an explanation that anything that can be zoomed passes... -- due 2012-03-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/168

<Joshue108> close action-168

<trackbot> Closed action-168.

<jamesn> issue-204?

<trackbot> Sorry, but issue-204 does not exist.

https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/204

<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/Techniques/working-examples/SCR37/default.htm

<Joshue108> close action-99

<trackbot> Closed action-99.

Summary of Action Items

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