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<trackbot> Date: 20 August 2013
<MichaelC> chair: Andrew_Kirkpatrick
<scribe> scribe: marcjohlic
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed
<Joshue> yup
AWK: If this technique works - see no reason to remove it
PK: Is this technique a11y supported?
<Joshue> +q
LGR: Believe this was back in the days when we were looking for techniques that would be appropriate for this SC. Can't say that I've ever seen anyone using this technique
JoC: Never seen it in use myself
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say I hear a lot of assertions that it hasn´t been seen, but none that say ¨I know it is not accessibility supported¨. I need that before agreeing to
DM: Never come across it either.
Believe there's a point in not keeping things around just for
historical reasons
... Going to test it in 3 or 4 browsers and couple screen
readers and will have an answer in a few mins
<Joshue> Good point
LGR: No browser supports this as a way for skipping links
DM: Will also test with keyboard access
<Joshue> +q to say if AT push worked well I'd be happy to re-instate it as a methodology
<Joshue> -q
RESOLUTION: Leaving open pending results from David's testing
<AWK> "1 Although click is in principle a mouse event handler, most HTML and XHTML user agents process this event when the control is activated, regardless of whether it was activated with the mouse or the keyboard. In practice, therefore, it is not necessary to duplicate this event. It is included here for completeness since non-HTML user agents do have this issue."
<Joshue> +q
<Loretta> "when the control is activated" -> "when an HTML native control such as a button or link is activated"
<David> Results: test page http://davidmacd.com/test/maptest.html works in keyboard in chrome, IE, FF, NVDA, JAWS14 VoiceOVER in Safari on Mac OS mountainlion... COMPLETE SUPPORT!
<Joshue> +q
<Joshue> -q
RESOLUTION: Leaving open pending draft update from Loretta
David's test results: Results: test page http://davidmacd.com/test/maptest.html works in keyboard in chrome, IE, FF, NVDA, JAWS14 VoiceOVER in Safari on Mac OS mountainlion... COMPLETE SUPPORT!
(Returning to this earlier topic to discuss David's results)
<Joshue> +q
JoC: Did it announce the Navigation bar title?
DM: No - it did not announce anything. It didn't interfere with anything.
Does not appear to offering true grouping
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed
<AWK> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WCAG_Aug20_2013/results
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed
RESOLUTION: Accepting JN's comments and inserting verbatim (accepted as proposed).
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
<Loretta> Response to issue 2810 has been updated.
<Joshue> thanks Loretta
<Joshue> +q
<Joshue> +q
<Joshue> -q
<AWK> Comments on current issue: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WCAG_Aug20_2013/results#x2663
RESOLUTION: Leave open
<Joshue> +q
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say there is a careful balance to not kill longdesc while developing the next solution
<Joshue> +q to ask if we need to support longdesc
<Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to ask if we need to support longdesc
<David> Longdesc test page http://davidmacd.com/test/longdesc.html
<scribe> ACTION: AWK to add in page examples to H45 with comments about current support [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/20-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-211 - Add in page examples to h45 with comments about current support [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2013-08-27].
RESOLUTION: Leave open pending ACTION-211
LGR updated response to LC-2810
<Joshue> looks good Loretta
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
<Zakim> Loretta, you wanted to say that because the description addresses all mouse handlers, and not just click handlers, I don't think we need to edit it.
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
<scribe> ACTION: AWK to add "Providing a page title which serves as a mechanism to locate a page" as a future technique to future technique list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/20-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Add "providing a page title which serves as a mechanism to locate a page" as a future technique to future technique list [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2013-08-27].
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
<Joshue> ?me :-)
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
RESOLUTION: Accepted as propsed
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
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