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<trackbot> Date: 21 February 2013
<Joshue108> scribenick: Joshue
<MichaelC> scribeNick: Joshue108
<scribe> scribenick: Joshue108
GV: Todays agenda is starting with the EVAL methodology. We hope to sign off on it etc.
<Loretta> I'm going to try to monitor IRC while attending my orientation, but won't be on the phone.
GV: So if we have show stoppers we can give feedback etc. For probs please make suggestions. If not poss, an editors note etc is a good idea. Concerned about deadline etc.
:-)
<greggvanderheiden> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130221eval/results
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20130219#teams
<greggvanderheiden> The methodology defined by this document can be carried out by an individual evaluator with the skills described in section Required Expertise. However, using the combined expertise of review teams provides better coverage for the required skills and helps identify accessibility barriers more effectively. While not required, it is strongly recommended to employ review teams for conformance evaluation of websites. Specific guidance is
<greggvanderheiden> provided in Using Combined Expertise to Evaluate Web Accessibility.
RESOLUTION: Remove 'strongly' from review teams section
<shadi> "must" -> "has to"
<kerstin> probably a disclaimer like in the techniques "Some techniques use the word "must". Because the techniques document is not a normative document, this word is not used in the sense of RFC 2119. The colloquial use of the word "must" describes proper application of the specific technique under consideration. It does not imply requirements beyond the scope of the technique. "
<kerstin> it's here : http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/intro.html
<Loretta> Agree with Shadi.
<kerstin> I'm also fine with deleting "must" :-)
<greggvanderheiden> probably a disclaimer like in the techniques "Some techniques use the word "must". Because the techniques document is not a normative document, this word is not used in the sense of RFC 2119. The colloquial use of the word "must" describes proper application of the specific technique under consideration. It does not imply requirements beyond the scope of the technique. "
<greggvanderheiden> http://davidmacd.com/test/random.html
<kerstin> I'm not in the queue, so shadi is next
<Loretta> Sorry need to drop off the phone now.
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20130219#step5a
<greggvanderheiden> Only captures the successes and failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements globally for the entire website. For each WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion applicable as per Step 1.c. Define the Conformance Target, the report identifies if it is met or not met in the selected sample of web pages. Where failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria are identified, at least one example web page from the sample in which such a failure ha[CUT]
<greggvanderheiden> identified must be indicated in the report.
<greggvanderheiden> Detailed Report
<greggvanderheiden> Captures the successes and failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements for each web page. For each WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion applicable as per Step 1.c. Define the Conformance Target, the report identifies if it is met or not met in each web page in the selected sample of web pages. Where failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria on a web page are identified, each identified occurrence of such a failure must be indicated in
<greggvanderheiden> the report.
<greggvanderheiden> Basic Report
<greggvanderheiden> Only captures the successes and failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements globally for the entire website. For each WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion applicable as per Step 1.c. Define the Conformance Target, the report identifies if it is met or not met in the selected sample of web pages. Where failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria are identified, at least one example web page from the sample in which such a failure ha[CUT]
<greggvanderheiden> identified must be indicated in the report.
<greggvanderheiden> Detailed Report
<greggvanderheiden> Captures the successes and failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements for each web page. For each WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion applicable as per Step 1.c. Define the Conformance Target, the report identifies if it is met or not met in each web page in the selected sample of web pages. Where failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria on a web page are identified, each identified occurrence of such a failure must be indicated in
<greggvanderheiden> the report.
<greggvanderheiden> In-Depth Analysis Report
<greggvanderheiden> Captures the successes and failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements for each Success Criterion. For each WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion applicable as per Step 1.c. Define the Conformance Target, the report identifies if it is met or not met in the selected sample of web pages. Where failures in meeting WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria are identified, examples of the identified occurrence of such a failure must be indicated in the r[CUT]
<greggvanderheiden> The In-Depth Analysis Report includes a summary of the issues identified on the website, examples of frequently occurring issues and an assessment of their impact on the users of the website in completing tasks, and if possible suggestions for improving the overall accessibility of the website and suggesting guidance for the future.
<greggvanderheiden> ack
Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to go in ~ 5, can someone else please scribe?
RESOUTION: Drop conformance requirements from the report format and add 'for each web page after ' success criterion in depth. Add editors note asking input on report formats.
<AWK> I have to drop off in ~1 minute also.
<David> Resolution: CHANGE
<David> Such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation according to this methodology.
<David> TO
<David> Such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation if this methodology is used. (or- ....if using this methodology)
<David> RESOLUTION:CHANGE
<David> Such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation according to this methodology.TO Such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation if this methodology is used. (or- ....if using this methodology)
<greggvanderheiden> change 1d and 4c to read "….techniques and failures that have been documented by W3C and others as meeting the success criteria…."
<David> RESOLUTION: Change such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation according to this methodology to "Such web pages may not be excluded from the scope of evaluation if this methodology is used. (or- ....if using this methodology)"
<David> RESOLUTION: change 1d and 4c to read "… .techniques and failures that have been documented by W3C and others as meeting the success criteria…."
<David> RESOLUTION: Shadi to update editorials from Joshue. 'My first thought was, "What situations?", then I realised you are referring to the closed network - that may be clearer if it was something like: "W3C/WAI provides a set of publicly documented Techniques for WCAG 2.0. However, it is not necessary to use these particular techniques. In fact, in some situations, such as in a closed network,...
<David> ...it may be necessary to use techniques that are specifically developed to the particular needs of the users of that network."
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20130219#step4
<David> practicable?
<shadi> [[While ideally every web page of a website is evaluated, usually this is not possible on most websites. In cases where all web pages can be evaluated, this sampling procedure can be skipped and the selected sample is considered to be the entire website in the remaining steps.]]
<David> RESOLUTION: add one more question to the scoring editors note... or would scoring be a good idea at all?
<David> RESOLUTION: Unanimous consent to Publish the EVAL DOC as a draft with the resolutions of this meeting
<greggvanderheiden> http://tinyurl.com/balvfg3
<greggvanderheiden> '
<David> RESOLUTION: Resolve LC-2653 as revised
<David> RESOLUTION: Resolve LC-2665 as written
<David> s/ LC-265 as written/ LC-2665 as written/
<David> RESOLUTION: AcceLC-2653 as revised
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2665 as revised
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2653 as written
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2665, 2655, 2690, 2666, 2656, 2667, 2657, 2692, 2687, 2702, 2664, 2675, 2654, 2689, 2676, 2691, 2677, 2678, 2680, 2694, 2693, 2682,
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2668 as written
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2701 as written
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2658 as written
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2660 as revised
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2698 as written
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2700 as amended
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2695 as amended
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2688 as amended
<kerstin> No
<David> RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2669, 2679, 2681 as amended
<David> RRSAgentI have made the request,
<David> do you have it Michael
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