How To Fix Rounded Shoulders

This blog post contains the best exercises, stretches and strategies to fix your rounded shoulders.

In this blog post:

    What are Rounded shoulders?

    Having Rounded shoulders is when the resting shoulder position is in front of the mid line of the torso.

    rounded shoulders

    This type of poor posture generally involves the shoulder blade being in a position of Protraction which involves a combination of Lateral glide/Anterior tilt/Internal rotation of the scapula.

    Causes

    The hunched postures you continually adopt throughout the day disrupts the normal balance of muscular activity in your shoulders.

    In Rounded Shoulders, there is an imbalance of tension between the muscles that pull the shoulder blades forwards and the muscles that pull the shoulder blades backwards.

    Think about it this way: There’s a tug-of-war battle between the muscles at the front and back of the shoulders (… And the muscles at the front are winning!).

    The following muscles will be addressed specifically in the exercise section of this blog post.

    a) Tight and/or Overactive muscles:

    The following muscles PULL the shoulder blades into the forward position.

    (We need to Stretch/Release these muscles!)

    • Pectoralis Major/Minor
    • Subclavius
    • Latissimus Dorsi
    • Upper Trapezius (Anterior)
    • Serratus Anterior
    • Anterior Deltoid

    b) Weak and/or Inhibited muscles:

    The following muscles ARE NOT PULLING the shoulder blades backwards into a more neutral position.

    (We need to Activate/Strengthen these muscles!)

    • Middle Trapezius
    • Lower Trapezius
    • Rhomboids

    Symptoms

    rounded shoulders symptoms

    As the shoulder blades are pulled into the forward position, this can place more pressure on the structures at the back (See above).

    Rounded Shoulders may be associated with issues such as:

    how to tell if you have Rounded shoulders

    Try these quick tests to determine if you have rounded shoulders.

    a) Position Of Palm

    rounded shoulders test

    Instructions:

    • Stand up right with your normal posture.
    • Have a quick glance at the position of your hands.
    • … Which way are your palms facing?
    Results: If your palms are facing backwards, then it is likely that you have Rounded Shoulders.

    b) Shoulder Position When Lying Down

    test for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Lie down with your back flat against the floor and arms by your side.
    • Do the back of your shoulders naturally rest on the floor? Or do they sit in a forward position?
    • (DON’T CHEAT! Make sure that you are not over arching your lower back!)
    Results: If the back of the shoulders do not come in contact with the floor, then it is likely that you have Rounded Shoulders.

    c) Side Profile:

    rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Get someone to take a photo of your posture in side profile.
    • Draw a vertical line along the mid line of your torso.
    • Draw a vertical line along the mid line of your shoulder.
    • Compare these 2 lines.
    ResultsIf the shoulder line is in front of the torso line, then it is likely that have Rounded Shoulders.

    d) Only one shoulder rolled forwards

    one shoulder is rolled forward

    If you have a twisted spine, it can give the appearance of having one shoulder rolled forwards.

    (For example – if the torso is rotated towards the right, this will place the left shoulder in a more forwards position.)


    Exercises for Rounded shoulders

    STEP 1: Releases
    STEP 2: Stretches

    STEP 3: Improve Internal Rotation
    STEP 4: Improve Extension
    STEP 5: Scapula Control

    STEP 6: Lower Trapezius Activation
    STEP 7: Strengthening Exercises

    STEP 8: Eccentric Exercises
    STEP 9: Posture Taping
    STEP 10: Shoulder Brace
    STEP 11: Correct Shoulder Position

    STEP 12: One Shoulder Rolled Forwards
    STEP 13: Other Areas To Address

    Recommendation: Perform the following exercises 2-3/week to gain a sense of what each exercise feels like. Over time, assess how your body responds and adjust frequency accordingly.

    1. Releases

    Tight muscles can lock the shoulders in the forward position.

    It is important to release these muscle first as to enable the shoulders to be re-positioned correctly.

    (Note: If you are not familiar with where the exact location of the following muscles, it will be a good idea to Google them.)

    a) Chest

    Target muscles:

    • Subclavius
    • Pectoralis Major
    • Pectoralis Minor
    • Anterior Deltoid
    chest release for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Lie facing downwards on the floor.
    • Place a massage ball underneath the chest region.
    • Apply an appropriate amount of your body weight on top of the massage ball.
    • Perform a circular motion over the massage ball.
    • Make sure to cover the entire chest region.
    • Continue for 2 minutes.

    b) Side

    Target muscles:

    • Latissimus Dorsi
    • Serratus Anterior
    serratus anterior release

    Instructions:

    • Lie down on your side.
    • Place a foam roller underneath the Serratus Anterior/Latissimus Dorsi muscle.
    • Apply an appropriate amount of your body weight on top of the foam roller.
    • Roll your body over the foam roller.
    • Make sure to cover the entire muscle.
    • Continue for 2 minutes on each side.

    c) Upper Trapezius

    upper trapezius release

    Instructions:

    • Stand in front of the corner of a wall.
    • Bend forwards towards the wall.
    • Place a massage ball in the region between the neck and shoulder.
    • Lean your shoulder against the wall.
    • Apply an appropriate amount of weight into the massage ball.
    • Make sure to cover the entire region of the Upper Trapezius.
    • Continue for 2 minutes on each side.

    d) Subscapularis

    subscapularis muscle release

    Instructions:

    • Sit down on a chair.
    • Rest the entire weight of the arm on your lap.
    • Completely relax your arm.
    • Use the finger tips of the other arm to push into the front surface of the shoulder blade. (This is in the arm pit region.)
    • Focus on areas of increased tightness.
    • Continue for 30 seconds.

    Note: Make sure that you are not causing numbness or tingling down the arm as you apply pressure into the arm pit region. (This means you may be squashing a nerve!)

    If any doubts – seek guidance from a health care professional.

    2. Stretches

    The next step is to give the tight muscles which hold your shoulders in the rounded position a good stretch.

    Make sure that you are getting into the correct position so that you can FEEL the stretch.

    a) Chest

    (Muscles targeted: Pectoralis Major/Minor)

    rounded shoulders stretches

    Instructions:

    • Place both hands on the door frame.
    • Pull your shoulders back.
      • “Open up your chest”
    • Lunge forwards.
    • Do not arch your lower back.
    • Aim to feel a stretch in the chest region.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.

    For more chest stretches: Stretches for Pec Minor

    b) Latissimus Dorsi

    stretches for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Assume the position above.
    • Whilst holding onto the door frame, let your upper arm take the weight of your body.
      • “Let your body hang”
    • Whilst anchoring your legs as shown, aim to bend your mid section as much as possible.
      • Use your body weight to sink into the stretch
    • Aim to feel a stretch on the side of your torso.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.
    • Repeat on other side.

    For more Lat stretches: Latissimus Dorsi Stretches

    c) Upper Trapezius

    upper trapezius stretch

    Instructions:

    • Pull your shoulders back and down.
    • Tilt your head to the side.
    • Using your hand, pull your head further into the tilt.
    • Aim to feel a stretch on the side of your neck.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.
    • Repeat on other side.

    Do you have Pain in the Trapezius?

    See Post: Trapezius Muscle Pain Exercises

    d) Serratus Anterior

    serratus anterior stretch

    Instructions:

    • Lie down on your side.
    • (The side that will be stretched should be closest to the floor.)
    • Prop your torso up with your forearm resting on the floor.
    • Make sure to keep your upper arm perpendicular to the floor throughout this stretch.
    • Sink the weight of your torso into the shoulder.
    • Keep your shoulder completely relaxed.
    • Bow your torso towards the floor.
    • Take slow and deep breaths into the side of your rib cage.
    • Aim to feel a stretch on the side of the rib cage.
    • Hold this position for 30 seconds.

    Related Post: Serratus Anterior Serratus Stretches

    e) Subscapularis

    (You will need a stick to perform the following stretch.)

    subscapularis stretch

    Instructions:

    • Lie down on your back.
    • Hold onto a stick between your hands.
    • Keep your elbow close to the side of your torso.
    • Shift the stick towards the side you are stretching.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.

    3. Improve shoulder internal rotation

    If you lack internal rotation in the shoulder, the shoulder blade may compensate by hitching upwards and forwards… Especially when using your hands in front of you.

    I have a complete guide on how to address this issue here:

    See Post: Improve Internal Rotation of the Shoulder

    But for now, here are some exercises to get your started…

    a) Release with Massage Ball

    (Muscles targeted: Posterior Deltoid, Infraspinatus, Teres Minor, Posterior Capsule)

    posterior shoulder release

    Instructions:

    • Lie down on your side.
    • Place your arm out in front of you.
    • Place a massage ball underneath the back of your shoulder joint.
    • Apply an appropriate amount of your body weight on top of the massage ball.
    • Proceed to roll over the ball.
    • Pause on areas of increase tightness.
    • Continue for 2 minutes.

    b) Stretch the Back of Shoulder

    posterior shoulder stretch

    Instructions:

    • Tie a resistance band onto a stationary object at shoulder height.
    • Lightly hold onto the band.
    • Move away from the anchor point to create tension in the resistance band.
    • Allow the band to pull your arm across your body.
    • Place your other hand on the back of the elbow.
    • Pull the arm further across the body.
    • Turn your body slightly away from the anchor point.
    • Aim to feel a firm stretch in the back of the shoulder.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.

    b)  Internal Rotation Overpressure

    (Muscles targeted: Infraspinatus, Teres Minor)

    internal rotation over pressure

    Instructions:

    • Place the back of your wrist onto the side of your hip.
    • Use a strap (or your other hand) to pull the elbow towards the body.
    • Aim to feel a stretch in the back of the shoulder.
    • Perform 30 repetitions.

    4. Improve shoulder extension

    If you lack full shoulder extension, the scapula may sit in the dumped forwards position (Anterior tilt of the Scapula) and lead to slumped shoulders.

    For exercises to increase this movement:

    See Post: Exercises To Increase Shoulder Extension

    Here are 2 exercises to get you started:

    a) Stretch Front of Shoulder

    stretch for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Sit on a chair.
    • Place both hands on side the of the chair.
    • Pull your shoulders BACK and tip them BACKWARDS.
      • (Lock this position in throughout the stretch!)
    • Keep your elbows pointing backwards.
    • Slowly sink your body backwards. Your elbows should start to bend.
      • (Do NOT let those shoulders tip forwards!)
    • Aim to feel a stretch at the front of the shoulders.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.

    For more stretches that target the front of the shoulder:

    See Post: Deltoid Stretches

    b) Practice Pure Extension

    shoulder extension

    Instructions:

    • Pull your shoulders BACK and tip them BACKWARDS.
      • (Lock this position in throughout the exercise!)
    • Without allowing the shoulder blade to tip forwards, bring your arm as far backwards as possible.
    • Hold for 5 seconds.
    • Repeat 30 times.

    5. Control your Scapula

    When fixing Rounded Shoulders: It is VITAL to know how to perform Scapula Retraction and Posterior Tilt.

    These scapula movements will help get the shoulder into a more neutral position.

    (Note: You will need to know how to do these movements correctly before proceeding to the Strengthening Exercises.)

    a) Scapula Retraction

    scapula retraction for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Maintain wide and long shoulders.
    • Keep your arms completely relaxed.
    • Perform Scapular Retraction: (see above)
      • “Pull your shoulder blades together”
    • FEEL the contraction between the shoulder blades.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.
    • Repeat 3 times.

    b) Scapula Posterior Tilt

    (Keep in mind: This movement is not easy to perform initially. It is a subtle (but very important) movement of the shoulder blade that will help improve the position of the shoulders.)

    posterior tilt of scapula for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Maintain wide and long shoulders.
    • Keep your arms completely relaxed.
    • Perform Scapular Posterior Tilt: (see above)
      • “Rotate the shoulder blade BACKWARDS.”
      • Imagine the bottom of your shoulder blade digging into your ribs.
    • Aim to FEEL the muscles contract at the base of the scapula.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.
    • Repeat 3 times.

    If you are experiencing difficulty with performing a Posterior Tilt of the shoulder blade, make sure to focus on the next step.

    6. Lower Trapezius Activation

    The Lower Trapezius in responsible for tipping your shoulder blade slightly backwards into a more neutral shoulder position.

    a) How to Activate the Lower Trapezius

    lower trapezius strengthening

    Instructions:

    • Lean your torso at approximately a 45 degrees angle.
    • Place one hand on something for balance.
    • Lift your other arm up with the thumb pointing upwards.
    • Aim to feel a contraction in the region between the lower part of the shoulder blade and spine.
    • Hold for 5 seconds.
    • Perform 20 repetitions.
    • Repeat on other side.
    • Progression:
      • Hold onto light weights.

    For more exercises like this:

    See Post: Lower Trapezius Exercises

    7. Strengthening Exercises

    If you have completed all of the above exercises, your shoulders should be feeling much more flexible.

    (… but this is only half of the journey!)

    Having the flexibility in your shoulder merely allows the potential to have them in a better position.

    You will need to strengthen the muscles that retract the shoulder blades backwards.

    a) Elbows Flares

    strengthening exercises for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Place both hands (with elbows forward) on the sides of your head. (see Start position)
    • Bring your elbows all the back. (see End position)
    • Perform Scapula Retraction and Posterior Tilt whilst pulling elbows backwards.
    • Feel the contraction between the shoulder blades.
    • Hold for 5 seconds.
    • Repeat 20 times.

    b) Wall Press and Squeeze

    rhomboid squeeze

    Instructions:

    • Place both hands high up on a wall in front of you.
    • Lean firmly into your hands.
    • Perform Scapula Retraction and Posterior Tilt.
    • Lift your hands off the wall without moving your torso.
    • Aim to feel the muscular contraction between your shoulder blades.
    • Hold for 30 seconds.
    • Repeat 5 times.

    c) Prone Angel

    rounded shoulders exercises

    Instructions:

    • Support your chest on a stool.
      • (Keep your torso parallel with the floor)
    • Place your arms in the ‘W’ starting position.
    • Perform and maintain Scapula Retraction and Posterior tilt throughout the exercise.
    • Transition to the arms over head position.
    • Keep your hands higher than your elbows.
    • Aim to feel the muscles between your shoulder blades activate.
    • Repeat 10 times.

    e) Wall Angel

    best exercise for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Stand with your back to a wall.
    • Keep your back and arms pulled backwards as to remain in contact with the wall at all times.
    • Place your arms in the ‘W’ starting position.
    • Transition to the arms over head position.
    • Remember to perform Scapula Retraction and Posterior Tilt throughout all movements.
    • Aim to feel the muscles between your shoulder blades activate.
    • Repeat 10 times.

    f) Prone Arm Lift (Above Head)

    prone scapular retraction on floor

    Instructions:

    • Lie down on your stomach.
    • Have your arms above your head.
    • Lift your arms off the floor as high as possible.
    • Squeeze your shoulder blades together.
    • Aim to feel a contraction in the muscles between the shoulder blades.
    • Hold for 10-30 seconds.
    • Perform 3-5 repetitions.
    • Progression:
      • Hold onto an appropriate amount of weight.

    8. Eccentric Exercise for Chest

    Once you have achieved a more neutral shoulder position with the mentioned exercises for Rounded Shoulders, the next step is to eccentrically strengthen your chest muscles.

    Eccentric training is where you strengthen the muscle as it is lengthening.

    (This will help stretch your chest muscles even more!)

    The Eccentric Push Up

    eccentric strengthening of the chest muscles

    Instructions:

    • Assume a push up position against a door frame.
    • Lean your weight into your hands.
    • Keep your shoulders pulled back throughout the exercise.
      • Maintain the Scapular Posterior Tilt and Retraction!
    • Slowly lower your chest down towards the wall as you bend your elbows.
    • Do not let your elbows flare outwards.
    • Aim to go as deep as possible so that you feel a deep stretch in the chest muscles.
    • Repeat 10 times.
    • Progression:
      • Go deeper into the movement.
      • Perform on the floor.
      • Perform a Bench press or dumbbell chest press.

    9. Tape your posture

    Taping your rounded shoulder posture into a more optimal position can be helpful.

    taping for rounded shoulders

    Instructions:

    • Perform Scapula Retraction and Posterior Tilt.
      • “Pull your shoulder blades slightly together”
      • “Rotate the shoulder blade BACKWARDS.”
    • Place the tape starting from above collar bone and pull back and down to the middle of your thoracic spine.
    • Make sure you place firm downward pressure when applying the tape.
    • Do both sides.

    (Note: Depending on your skin irritability, you can leave the tape on for up to ~2 days. )

    10. Brace for Rounded shoulders

    Wearing a brace to prevent your shoulders from rolling forward can be helpful in this initial stages of fixing your posture.

    My only warning is that you DO NOT become reliant on it!

    Excessive use of a posture brace will likely lead to the weakening of all of your postural muscles!

    The main thing when using a brace is to make sure that it fits comfortably.

    11. What is the correct shoulder position?

    This is a quick and easy way to reset your shoulders into a more neutral position.

    Shoulder Reset Exercise

    shoulder position

    Instructions:

    • Reach and stretch out your hands as far to opposite sides as possible. (see above)
    • Retraction: Slightly bring your arms backwards.
      • Make sure you can feel a gentle contraction between your shoulder blades
    • Posterior Tilt: Turn your palms towards the back as far as you can so that your thumbs are almost pointing towards the floor.
    • Take note of your shoulder position. Keep this position! And gently lower your arms by your side.
    • Think: “Wide and long shoulders”. 
    • Do NOT over squeeze your shoulders back together.

    12. One Shoulder Rolled Forwards

    If you have only one shoulder that is rolled forwards, the first step is to check if your spine is rotated towards one side.

    Spinal rotation can lead to one shoulder being positioned more forwards as compared to the other side.

    (For example – if the torso is rotated towards the right, this will place the left shoulder in a more forwards position.)

    a) How To Check for Rotation In The Torso

    rotated torso

    Instructions:

    • Stand with your feet shoulder-width apart and level with each other.
    • Get a helper to take a photo from the above head position.
    • Find the line of your pelvis. (Red line)
    • Find the line of your torso. (Orange line)
    • If these 2 lines are not parallel, then you have a rotated torso relative to the position of the pelvis.

    Results:

    • If the torso is rotated towards the RIGHT, this will place the LEFT shoulder in a more forwards position.
    • if the torso is rotated towards the LEFT, this will place the RIGHT shoulder in a more forwards position.

    (Note: Uneven muscular bulk can give the illusion of a rotation.)

    If you have determined that you have a rotated torso which has lead to one shoulder being more forwards, I strongly recommend that you have a look at this blog post:

    Post: Exercises For A Twisted Spine

    This blog post will cover all of the exercises that you will need to perform to address the position of the torso.

    By addressing the position of the torso, the forward position of the shoulder should automatically improve.

    If you do not have any rotation in your torso but still have one shoulder more forwards, it is likely that you will need to perform the exercises mentioned on this blog post on the one side.

    What causes one shoulder being more forwards?

    There are certain activities which may encourage one shoulder to adopt a more forwards position such as:

    • Driving with one hand on the steering wheel
    • Using the computer mouse
    • Carrying hand bag on one shoulder
    • Work requirements (eg. repetitively reaching forwards)
    • Sport-related movements (eg. throwing)

    13. Other areas to consider

    The following factors mentioned below may predispose one to developing rounded shoulders.

    a) Address Hunchback Posture

    hunchback posture and rounded shoulders

    A thoracic spine (upper back) that is hunched forwards will orientate the shoulders in a forwards position.

    For a complete guide on how to address this:

    See Post: Hunchback Posture

    b) Address Forward Head Posture

    forward head posture and rounded shoulders

    A Forward Head Posture is where the position of the head is in front of the mid line of the torso.

    If the head is pushed into the poked forwards position, it is common to see the shoulders round forwards as well.

    Be aware of the habitual position of your head

    (For Example: Think about your head position when you are looking down at your phone!)

    For a complete guide on how to address this:

    See Post: Forward Head Posture

    c) Workstation Setup

    If you sit in front of a computer for an extended amount of time, it is important to optimize the position of the computer screen, keyboard, mouse, table and chair.

    This can help encourage a better position of your shoulders.

    I have written a free eBook which covers how to set up your workstation:

    Check it out here: How To Setup Your Workstation

    13. Common Questions

    Feel free to ask me a question in the comment section.

    a) Can it be corrected?

    Yes!

    Focus on performing all of the suggested exercises as mentioned on this blog post.

    Perform them effectively. Be consistent. And most of all…

    Be patient!

    (You certainly didn’t develop your bad posture over night. It can take time!)

    b) How long does it take to fix?

    This is a very common question that I receive… but also a very difficult one to answer!

    There are many factors that contribute to the shoulder position. As a result, time frame to recovery will vary from person to person.

    Generally speaking – I would suggest that you persist with the exercises for at least 3 months.

    If there has been a lack of noticeable improvement, it is likely that other areas of your posture will need to be addressed as well. (see section 12: Other Areas To Consider)

    c) Does sleeping on your side cause Rounded Shoulders?

    Although sleeping on the side encourages the forward rounding of the shoulders, it is not likely the only cause!

    If your side sleeping is significantly contributing to your rounded shoulders, I would encourage you to sleep on your back.

    In this position, gravity will actually assist in pushing your shoulders back into a more ideal position.

    How to sleep to fix Rounded Shoulders:

    How to sleep to fix Rounded Shoulders

    Note: If sleeping on your back is uncomfortable on the shoulders, consider placing a pillow under the shoulder and arms. (see above)

    d) What are some exercises to avoid?

    You do not necessarily have to completely avoid any exercises.

    The main thing is to avoid performing exercises with the shoulders in the rounded forwards position.

    If you are involved with an activity which requires for your shoulder to be in hunched position (eg. Boxing, Cycling, Swimming butterfly stroke, Rock climbing, Driving), then make sure you are following up with your corrective exercises!

    e) Is this posture causing all of my pain?

    Having rounded shoulders does not inherently mean that you will have pain.

    There are plenty of people with poor posture who do not experience any symptoms at all!

    In my opinion – the issue associated with rounded shoulders is that if your shoulders become LOCKED in this position where it affects how your body moves.


    Conclusion:

    To fix your Rounded Shoulders, you will need to:

    • Release and Stretch the tight muscles that are holding your shoulders in the forwards position.
    • Activate and Strengthen the weak muscles that are responsible for pulling your shoulders into the ideal position.
    • Learn how to control your shoulder blades. (especially with the scapula movements of Posterior Tilt and Retraction)
    • Be aware of your posture throughout the day and aim to maintain a good shoulder position.
    • Address other aspects of your posture.

    What to do next:

    1. Any questions?… Leave me a comment down below.

    2. Come join me on the Facebook page. Let’s keep in touch!

    3. Start doing the exercises!


    Disclaimer: The content presented on this blog post is not medical advice and should not be treated as such. It is not intended to be used as a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis or treatment. Use of the content provided on this blog post is at your sole risk. Seek guidance from a healthcare professional before attempting any exercise and/or implementing any recommendation. For more informationMedical Disclaimer.

    686 thoughts on “How To Fix Rounded Shoulders”

    1. Thanks the thorough post Mark.

      I was wondering if you might have any idea why my shoulders keep excessively tipping and rounding forwards when I do exercises. I have been doing rows/rear delt flys, etc.. to try and strengthen rhomboids/low trap for a couple years now but I consistently get very poor engagement especially in mid trap and rhomboids and feel all exercises excessively in rotator cuff, lats, and sometimes a little in upper trap. My upper traps are not tight but are always active and full of knots that keep coming back even if I get rid of them. Pecs are not tight either except for the top part of pec major. Lats are not tight. Excessively overarching lower back helps some maintaining proper tilt but it by no means fixs it. There is no difficulty lifting arm above head even against resistance.

      I also have scapular winging and have a very hard time protracting my arms without excessive forward tilt of the shoulder. I even went to PT for this and I could do push up plus without much winging on ground (never once felt exercises in serratus anterior) but after reading your post on that too I’m pretty confident I was cheating excessively with anterior tilt and rounding of shoulders masking the winging. Shoulder blades also wing slightly at rest and a lot through many motions.

      EMG has confirmed there is no nerve damage present.

      Is there anything in particular you would recommend? Could the winging be causing inability to maintain posterior tilt of scapula in certain positions and poor ability to strengthen rhomboid/mid traps? Thanks again and sorry if this is a bit long.

      Reply
      • Hey Bob,

        1. With your lower trapezius exercises, are you able to feel the contraction in the lower traps if you make the exercise easier? Eg. if you retract your shoulders, can you feel it? Perhaps the exercises that you are doing may be relatively too difficult for you.

        2. It sounds like you might be using your Upper trap, levator scapulae and/or pec minor to stabilize the shoulder. This will usually result in the scapula tipping forwards. You can try releasing these areas first and trying out your lower trap exercises and see if that makes a difference.

        3. What does your Upper back posture look like? Is there areas of increase forward flexion? This may orientate the scapula in a forward tilt position. I suspect this as you said over arching your lower back help places the shoulder in a overall better position. If so – you might benefit having a read of this blog post: Hunchback Posture.

        4. In regards to the serratus anterior, you might benefit from practicing these exercises: Serratus Activation. Is this winging on one shoulder or both?

        Mark

        Reply
        • Thanks for the speedy reply,

          1. I feel it some in the low trap/lats (more lat but think both are working some) but not a ton compared to other parts of the body e.g. glutes/arms. It is above the low traps/upper lats where I get very poor engagement and I don’t really feel those areas working even when lightening the weight. In general lower resistance seems to be a little bit better but still poor engagement (both by touch and by lack of muscle fatigue).

          2. This is likely the case but its a bit more difficult in practice since the muscles are so knotted up

          3. Slight structural kyphosis with very slight wedging of a few vertebra is present; I have been told it is not very severe though.

          4. Winging is both shoulders with right side worse, and worse engagement of scapular muscles on the right side. Winging is especially bad in mid-arm elevation and is the least bad in neutral posture. Winging gets better above 0 degrees (arms straight out like doing a rear delt fly and below 0 degrees. When performing a T/rear delt fly the top parts of my shoulder wing like crazy (bottom wings to a lesser degree). Furthermore, the parts of my shoulders that wing more seem to corelate with where muscle recruitment is poor.

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    2. i am having an issue where i have rounded shoulders and already have a posterior tilt of the scapula.

      I have some ideas on how to address this like using shoulder extension, long head of triceps to anteriorly tilt and maybe rhomboids

      would like to hear your suggestions though

      Reply
      • Hey Eric,

        Do you have a posterior tilt on just one shoulder? If so I would also check to see if your torso might be rotating towards one side. The scapula may be reacting to the rotation in the torso.

        See post: Twisted Torso.

        Mark

        Reply
    3. Hello Mark,
      To correct my rounded shoulders, I stretch and release the muscles mentioned in the beginning of your blog post. I also strengthen my rhomboids and lower trapezius. I am a natural bodybuilder.
      As suggested by my physiotherapist, I have stopped doing chest, biceps and upper trapezius workouts.
      My question is, I am currently doing strengthening/hypertrophy workouts of all three deltoid heads as well as all three divisions of latismus dorsi.
      Should I stop hypertrophy workouts of anterior deltoid and latismus dorsi, since you have mentioned that tightening of those muscles is also a reason for thoracic kyphosis and/or rounded shoulders?
      Thankyou
      A simple Google search lead me to your blog posts and instagram handle.
      It has been very informative.
      Please clear my doubt 🙏

      Reply
      • Hi Aasmi,

        In my opinion – Since you are already working on the muscles that help improve your shoulder position, it is fine to continue exercising the anterior deltoid and lats.

        With regards to the anterior deltoid, just make sure you keep your shoulder blade in the best position possible whilst you move the arm. That is – Don’t round your shoulders forwards as you move the arm.

        With regards to the lats, make sure you allow the lats to completely stretch at the end range of motion in the exercise that you are performing. Ie – If you are doing a lat pull down, let the bar completely elevate (to stretch the lats) before pulling down.

        Mark

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    4. The fact that the rhomboid muscle has weakened
      I think it’s wrong

      In the case of toracic kyphosis, it’s true that you need to exercise your rhomboid muscle
      but i have flat back and round shoulder
      It was caused by shortening the rhomboid muscle.

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    5. Hello.
      I have a question

      Shouldn’t we do Upper trapezius exercises rather than massages?

      If the shoulders are round, thescapular downward rotation muscles are strong.
      I think you need to build up your Upward rotation muscles

      I think the Upper trapezius is rather a weakened muscle.

      Reply
      • Hi Icy,

        Yes – you can certainly strengthen the Upper trapezius if it is weak. In fact – it would be weak it a lot of people who have droopy shoulders like you have alluded to.

        However, keep in mind, you can also have rounded shoulders with shrugged shoulders. These people would most likely benefit from the upper trapezius releases.

        Mark

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    6. Hi Mark,
      Do I have to massage regularly every day?
      After massaging with a massage ball,
      I don’t know if it’s because my muscles are weak, to have pain the muscle

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      • Hi Spear,

        You don’t need to massage the muscle every day. Time is better spent focusing on the stretches and strengthening exercises.

        Mark

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    7. Hi Mark,

      Love the information that you present.
      I see in a lot of the exercises you say to maintain a scap retraction and depression during the exercises.
      Would it be more natural to focus on the scap retraction and depression for the concentric and then allow them to relax and protract in the eccentric to follow a more natural rhythm of the scapula as opposed to just keeping them locked in place?

      Thanks,
      Daniel.

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      • Hi Daniel,

        You are 100% correct. There should definitely be a degree of protraction/lateral rotation in the scapula especially when the arm is moving upwards.

        To keep the scapula locked/jammed in the one position is not ideal movement.

        Thanks for bringing this up. I might need to re-word some of my instructions in the blog post to make it a bit clearer.

        Mark

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    8. Hi Mark,

      This blog post is so helpful and seems to have all the info I need in one place. But it’s also a bit overwhelming! I have very tight and rounded shoulders…do I need to go all the way through steps 1-10 to correct them or are there particular exercises or sections I should focus on? I understand the importance of loosening certain muscles and strengthening others but just wondering if there is any way to streamline this process so I am more likely to stick with it. I am very active and committed to improving my shoulders but feeling overwhelmed.

      Thanks so much!
      Bri

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      • Hi Bri,

        Yes – it can be quite overwhelming as I have listed pretty much every single exercise that should help address the rounded shoulders.

        You most likely DO NOT need to perform all of the exercises mentioned on this blog post, HOWEVER, I strongly recommend trying them all out in the beginning for a few weeks to determine how your body responds to certain exercises.

        From here – you can pick the top 3-5 exercises that you feel give you the most benefit and focus on these only.

        Mark

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    9. Thanks for the detailed exercises. Very helpful for at home exercise/therapy.
      I have tightness in all these areas, as well as forward head posture. Forward head posture is due to my tongue tie (this is a real thing and adults should see an oral myofunctional therapist for diagnosis first) and also body imbalance due to my atlas (C1) subluxation. If anyone notices they have a higher shoulder on one side and a higher hip on the opposite side then they could be experiencing a C1 subluxation and should see a certified atlas Orthongal chiropractor for evaluation and treatment. It changed and saved my life! I highly recommend Orthongal (no twisting or cracking-they use an activator to gently adjust the spine and take the body back to balanced). I’ve had issues with muscle imbalance and severe tightening of the muscles for so many years. The tongue tie and then the atlas subluxation are my underlying causes and if anyone else notices they are having the same “symptoms” and imbalances with no luck with exercise and PT, I encourage them to research tongue tie with an oral myofunctional therapist and an atlas orthongal chiropractor (specifically Orthongal). I still have to work on muscle strengthening and relaxation as I reteach my body, so your blog is extremely helpful. Thanks again! Best of luck!

      Reply
      • Your tongue tie can easily be fixed with the help of a periodontist. It’s a 15 to 30 minute day procedure done at the dentist. Cost is relatively less in Kerala, India. You can travel to Thiruvananthapuram from your country if the cost is too high in your country. This procedure will also correct your speech. There is no age limit for the procedure. You should be generally healthy with no underlying heart disease or kidney or liver disorders and your blood pressure and blood sugar must be normal. We will likely get your blood checked again and obtain a written consent from you to ensure you have no such health issues. I am an orthodontist. Hope this helps.

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      • Hey Cherry,

        They are all quite similar in terms of what exercises you should be doing to correct the rounded shoulders.

        Was there a particular question you had?

        Mark

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    10. Hi Mark,
      I have been in bad posture for 10 years but after doing your exercises I feel better
      my question is Does slapping hard on the back affect posture? My friend was joking with me and slap me with a huge force on my back several times, can this remove the improvement and affect my back? I feel like the exercises are useless and my back is not getting better with the exercises

      Reply
      • Hi Abdo,

        Great to hear that you are feeling better after the exercises!

        I don’t think slapping the back can make your posture any worse. (I guess it might hurt though)

        Mark

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    11. Hi Mark,

      I had a breast augmentation done in 2013 and then redone from a faulty implant in 2015. they went under the muscle and Ive noticed since then so much weakness and strain in my neck, levitate scapula shoulder area-because the enhancement is much bigger and heavier I definitely feel it pulling my neck and shoulders forward. My job is also using my hands In a forward motion repeatedly all day long at the spa. What do you recommend to help strengthen the back ,shoulders and neck to help alleviate the constant pulling forward and strain. Thanks!!

      Reply
      • Hey Tanya,

        All of the strengthening exercises mentioned on this blog post should be suitable for you.

        As there is increase weight from the augmentation, you’ll need to balance out by becoming even stronger in your rhomboids, middle/low trapezius and erector spinae muscles.

        Mark

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    12. Hey Mark!

      I’ve a question about my upper traps.
      I have rounded shoulders, so i know i need to train my lower traps. But when i train my lower traps with scapular depression, my neck feels very sore. Is this because the muscle isnt balanced? So i need to focus more on releasing my upper trap?

      I hope to hear from you.

      Mike

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      • Hey Mike,

        If scapular depression causing pain in the upper trapezius, it could be due to the upper trapezius over tensing as you are performing the depression. (It should remain fairly relaxed). If this is the case – Try reducing the intensity of the movement by 20% and see if that helps. (You might also need to stretch and/or release the upper traps before you perform the scapula exercises.

        If that doesn’t help, my next guess would be that you scapula may already be depressed (and rounded forwards). This is known as Droopy Rounded Shoulders. If this is the case – you are better of strengthening the upper/middle trapezius with shrugs/retractions.

        Mark

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    13. Hey Mark,

      I’ve had a scoliosis type of posture for years where my torso rotates left slightly and tilts left slightly. This posture made my right ribs area weak and flared out a bit and my right shoulder was elevated and forward making my right upper trap and levator scapulae very tight causing me neck pain on my right side.

      Now that i’ve fixed my scoliosis posture and stand and sit more straight, my shoulder now seems to droop kind of forward and down instead of up.

      Now i understand that the seratus anterior protracts the scapula forward like you’ve said in this post, but i’ve read on many articles that it also help keep the scapula posterior tilted flat against the rib cage.

      I believe that in my strange rotated and tilted position with flared right ribs and elevated scapula for all those years made the right side of my core and seratus anterior weak and that’s why i can’t properly stabilize my scapula and keep it back and flat against my rib cage.

      I’ve tried lower trap exercises but they don’t really seem to be helping. but whenever i brace my core and try to focus on that right seratus anterior area it seems to keep my right scapula in the right place and it doesn’t droop. I feel it sticking to my rib cage and unable to droop forward.

      Does this theory make sense? That maybe i should strengthen my seratus anterior instead of stretch it? I definitely need to stretch my pecs and shoulders on that side because they are noticeably tight. But i get the feeling that my seratus anterior will keep my scapula back if i strengthen it.

      Thanks so much for you time Mark

      Reply
      • Hi Josh,

        Yes, strengthening the serratus anterior is recommended even if you have forward shoulders. You will want to combine the contraction along side upper/middle trapezius as well to slightly elevate/retract/lateral rotate/posterior tilt the scapula on the rib cage.

        Mark

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        • Hello Mark,

          I have had a repetitive strain injury in both arms/hands for 5 years which I’m thankfully near the end of now but I want to do almost all of these posture corrections(FHP, rounded shoulders, twisted spine, etc). I’m wondering if it’s alright to do stretches for two areas at a time(some of these stretches I’ve been doing for years but others are new to me) so maybe FHP and rounded shoulders, and then strengthen both areas at the same time, or would you suggest just choosing one area to stretch and strengthen before moving on to another? Is there an order that’s best to do them in? Also it looks like the stretching period is generally 6 – 12 weeks, how long do you recommend strengthening for?

          Thanks so much!

          Reply
          • Hi Anatol,

            If you are able to dedicate time for address 2 areas adequately, that is completely fine. If you find it spreads yourself too thin, you might need to focus on one first.

            You can address any area first. I usually address the symptomatic area first.

            Strengthening should be an ongoing process. But I would certainly persist for at least 3 months minimum!

            Mark

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    14. Hey Mark,

      When I pull my shoulders slightly back and get a nice curve in my thoracic to achieve better posture, it seems a little more difficult for me to breath. It’s like my rib cage feels a little restricted and it’s a little more difficult to inhale. Is there something I can do to improve this?

      Thanks Mark, Happy Holidays

      Reply
      • Hi Josh,

        You might be forcing your thoracic spine into a better position which could possibly lead to more compression/tightness around the upper torso.

        If this area is restricted, it will take more effort to take a deep breath in as the lungs can’t expand as easily.

        To address this – you might need to consider working on thoracic spine mobility so that you don’t need to force the position.

        Here are some exercises that might help: Thoracic spine Stretches.

        I hope it helps you!

        Mark

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