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So it is very much unfair not to have a page in English Wikipedia on him now. - [[User:Vaikunda Raja|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:#B22222">Vaikunda Raja</span></font>]][[User talk:Vaikunda Raja|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;color:Black">:talk:</span></font>]] 06:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
So it is very much unfair not to have a page in English Wikipedia on him now. - [[User:Vaikunda Raja|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:#B22222">Vaikunda Raja</span></font>]][[User talk:Vaikunda Raja|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;color:Black">:talk:</span></font>]] 06:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*I would suggest the deleted content be '''restored to draft''' so that the new/additional information the nominator has mentioned can be added and the article transferred back to mainspace. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 09:43, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
*I would suggest the deleted content be '''restored to draft''' so that the new/additional information the nominator has mentioned can be added and the article transferred back to mainspace. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 09:43, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*Also afd'd independently at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annamalai k]], and the draft was mfd'd more recently at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Annamalai Kuppusamy]]. There's an existing draft at [[Draft:K. Annamalai (BJP politician)]], which I'm sorely tempted to G4 based on the mfd. [[quarry:query/77802|Deleted at least 27 times in mainspace and 43 in draft]]. Do not unsalt or restore even to draft, especially on such flimsy evidence as google searches, other Wikipedias, and [[WP:TOI|the Times of India]].{{pb}}Note that there's a different {{on AFD|K. Annamalai}} who ''is'' notable, and whose [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=K._Annamalai page was hijacked for this person so frequently] it had to be indefinitely ec-protected. [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KM. Annamalai]] is also apparently about someone else. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] |
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Revision as of 12:19, 2 November 2023
The article was created by somebody in 2020 and was proposed for deletion within weeks on the ground that the article fails the WP:NPOL and WP:BLP1E criteria and was deleted after discussion.
It seems not very unfair to delete the page at that point since he was just another IPS officer leaving service and joining a political party. Though it is very much evident that, he is more notable and not like every other hundreds of IPS officers as he was different and was famous. He recieves unusual media coverage atleast locally. But that doesn’t qualify enough to pass the WP:NPOL and WP:BLP1E criterias. Also the article presented then was more in a promotion tone. There was also a title conflict since there is another person with the name K.Annamalai. The nominator of the AFD himself “suggest to delete the article for now and wait till anything develops reason being wikipedia is not a soapbox and biographical host for every person” Consensus reached to delete the article ‘atleast temporarily’.
BUT, things had changed substatially over time. He was appointed as the state vice-president of the Bharatiya Janata Party and was promoted as the State President a year later. From day 1 in his office until now, he is been in the headlines of leading, reputed Tamil and English, newspapers and electronic media in Tamil Nadu 24x7x365. He even reaches national headlines frequently. It could be verified online here [1][2][3][4][5]
Tamil, Malayalam,hindi and Kannada Wikipedias already has artilce on him and the traffic for the page in Tamil wikipedia gets 5 to 7 times the views on an average when compared to the article on the previous president L. Murugan, even though he is a union minister.
I am elobrating all these things just to reflect upon his increased notability over time. Now the WP:NPOL criteria is met and he does not fit into the WP:BLP1E category.
Even though the name space Annamalai.K is been already created for a former ‘1-time-MLA’ who was elected in 2001 and was very little notable comparably. Yet he was argued to be an elected representative. Apart from that he was nowhere near to ‘Annamalai Kuppusamy’ (whom we are discussing about) in the notability scale. (This is another discussion)
For the argument that the tone of the then article is promotional, I have a different version which shall be uploaded (again it shall be discussed).
For the citations – There are already tens of hundreds of news articles available on him. We will be able to add fare references from reputed sources readily.
So it is very much unfair not to have a page in English Wikipedia on him now. - Vaikunda Raja:talk: 06:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- I would suggest the deleted content be restored to draft so that the new/additional information the nominator has mentioned can be added and the article transferred back to mainspace. Stifle (talk) 09:43, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Also afd'd independently at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annamalai k, and the draft was mfd'd more recently at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Annamalai Kuppusamy. There's an existing draft at Draft:K. Annamalai (BJP politician), which I'm sorely tempted to G4 based on the mfd. Deleted at least 27 times in mainspace and 43 in draft. Do not unsalt or restore even to draft, especially on such flimsy evidence as google searches, other Wikipedias, and the Times of India.Note that there's a different K. Annamalai (AfD discussion) who is notable, and whose page was hijacked for this person so frequently it had to be indefinitely ec-protected. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KM. Annamalai is also apparently about someone else. —Cryptic
A previous deletion review recommended allowing recreation; however, I'm requesting restoration of the original article. There is a draft pending at Draft:Miles Routledge, and I'd like to have the original article back with its old edit history so that the draft at AfC can be combined into it. Dan Leonard (talk) 01:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC)