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Here are the 2017 population estimates by the United Nations for four famous European countries — the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Italy — and four obscure African countries — Congo, Tanzania, Uganda, and Niger.
According to the UN’s Population Division, these little known countries will come to dwarf Europe’s traditional Great P 
owers in numbers by the second half of the 21st Century. (The UN demographers assume only modest migration flows.)
Keep in mind that the UN’s forecast of 192 million people in 2100 in Niger is not for Nigeria.
I couldn’t adroitly fit Nigeria’s expected 794 million on the graph, so I left it off.
Instead I went with the much less well known country of Niger, Nigeria’s northern neighbor on the southern fringe of the Sahara.
Of course, it is extremely unlikely that 192 million people will be living in Niger in 83 years.
One possibility is that the people of Niger will choose to limit their fertility.
As of 2014, Niger’s total fertility rate was 7.6 babies per woman. As far as anybody can tell (and African vital statistics are not hugely reliable), this rate has not changed much for several generations, even as most of the non-African world has moved toward more sustainable levels of fertility.
It’s important to note that the phenomenon of demographic momentum means that even if Niger’s total fertility rate fell to the replacement rate tomorrow, it’s population would continue to grow up into, perhaps, the early 2060s.
Another possibility is that the people of the region will limit their population through resource wars or disease or starvation.
A third possibility is that vast numbers of people in Niger will move to other places, such as Europe.
One thing to keep in mind is that Europeans, unlike Americans during the Great Migration from the South to Northern cities in the postwar era, do not have a frontier tradition. Americans upped stakes and headed for the new frontier in the suburbs, abandoning America’s cities to the newcomers and, often, ruin.
The Great Migration from the South destroyed the city of Detroit, but the metropolis of Detroit survived because Angl0-Americans are pretty good at heading for unsettled territory, like Tom and Huck at the end of Huckleberry Finn and rebuilding. (In contrast, the Central Europeans of Pittsburgh hunkered down in their city and appeared to have come out the other end of the wringer largely intact.)
Europeans, however, don’t have that kind of tradition of moving on. They like their cities. They’ve been living in them for hundreds of years.
Moreover, the American resettlement to the suburbs was facilitated by 29 cents per gallon gasoline.
How this will all work out is not something that Europe’s political elites want to discuss with their voters.
Since the future of the world will be heavily influenced by the huge number of Sahelians headed our way, here’s the opening of John Updike’s 1978 novel The Coup, in which he describes a fictionalized Sahelian country much like Niger. Keep in mind, however, that the population of Niger in 1978 was 5.7 million. Today it is 21.5 million. In another 39 years, the span of time since Updike’s novel, it is expected to grow to 81.4 million. The Coup begins with the Col. Gadaffi-like Col. Ellellou writing his memoirs in a Nabokovian-Updikean prose style:
My country of Kush, landlocked between the mongrelized, neo-capitalist puppet states of Zanj and Sahel, is small for Africa, though larger than any two nations of Europe. Its northern half is Saharan; in the south, forming the one boundary not drawn by a Frenchman’s ruler, a single river flows, the Grionde, making possible a meagre settled agriculture. Peanuts constitute the principal export crop: the doughty legumes are shelled by the ton and crushed by village women in immemorial mortars or else by antiquated presses manufactured in Lyons; then the barrelled oil is caravanned by camelback and treacherous truck to Dakar, where it is shipped to Marseilles to become the basis of heavily perfumed and erotically contoured soaps designed not for my naturally fragrant and affectionate countrymen but for the antiseptic lavatories of America — America, that fountainhead of obscenity and glut. Our peanut oil travels westward the same distance as eastward our ancestors plodded, their neck-shackles chafing down to the jugular, in the care of Arab traders, to find from the flesh-markets of Zanzibar eventual lodging in the harems and palace guards of Persia and Chinese Turkestan. Thus Kush spreads its transparent wings across the world. The ocean of desert between the northern border and the Mediterranean littoral once knew a trickling traffic in salt for gold, weight for weight; now this void is disturbed only by Swedish playboys fleeing cold boredom in Volvos that soon forfeit their seven coats of paint to the rasp of sand and the roar of their engines to the omnivorous howl of the harmattan. They are skeletons before their batteries die. Would that Allah had so disposed of all infidel intruders!
To the south, beyond the Grionde, there is forest, nakedness, animals, fever, chaos. It bears no looking into. Whenever a Kushite ventures into this region, he is stricken with mal à l’estomac.
Kush is a land of delicate, delectable emptiness, …
In area Kush measures 126,912,180 hectares. The population density comes to .03 per hectare. In the vast north it is virtually immeasurable. The distant glimpsed figure blends with the land as the blue hawk blends with the sky. There are twenty-two miles of railroad and one hundred seven of paved highway. Our national airline, Air Kush, consists of two Boeing 727’s, stunning as they glitter above the also glittering tin shacks by the airfield. … The natives extract ingenious benefits from the baobab tree, weaving mats from its fibrous heart, ropes from its inner bark, brewing porridge and glue and a diaphoretic for dysentery from the pulp of its fruit, turning the elongated shells into water scoops, sucking the acidic and refreshing seeds, and even boiling the leaves, in desperate times, into a kind of spinach. When are times not desperate? Goats eat the little baobab trees, so there are only old giants. The herds of livestock maintained by the tribes of pastoral nomads have been dreadfully depleted by the drought. The last elephant north of the Grionde gave up its life and its ivory in 1959, with a bellow that still reverberates. “The toubabs took the big ears with them,” is the popular saying. Both Sahel and Zanj possess quantities of bauxite, manganese, and other exploitable minerals, but aside from a streak of sulphur high in the Bulub Mountains the only known mineral deposit in Kush is the laterite that renders great tracts of earth unarable, (I am copying these facts from an old Statesman’s Year-Book, freely, here where I sit in sight of the sea, so some of them may be obsolete.) In the north there were once cities of salt populated by slaves, who bred and worshipped and died amid the incessant cruel glisten; these mining settlements, supervised by the blue-clad Tuareg, are mere memories now.
But even memory thins in this land, which suggests, on the map, an angular skull whose cranium is the empty desert. Along the lower irregular line of the jaw, carved by the wandering brown river, there was a king, the Lord of Wanjiji, whose physical body was a facet of God so radiant that a curtain of gold flakes protected the eyes of those entertained in audience from his glory; and this king, restored to the throne as a constitutional monarch in the wake of the loi-cadre of 1956 and compelled to abdicate after the revolution of 1968, has been all but forgotten. Conquerors and governments pass before the people as dim rumors, as entertainment in a hospital ward. Truly, mercy is interwoven with misery in the world wherever we glance.
Among the natural resources of Kush perhaps should be listed our diseases-an ample treasury which includes, besides famine and its edema and kwashiorkor, malaria, typhus, yellow fever, sleeping sickness, leprosy, bilharziasis, onchocerciasis, measles, and yaws. As these are combatted by the genius of science, human life itself becomes a disease of the overworked, eroded earth. The average life expectancy in Kush is thirty-seven years, the per capita gross national product $79, the literacy rate 6%.
The official currency is the lu. The flag is a plain green field. The form of government is a constitutional monarchy with the constitution suspended and the monarch deposed. An eleven-man Supreme Counseil Revolutionnaire et Militaire pour l’Emergence serves as the executive arm of the government and also functions as its legislature. The pure and final socialism envisioned by Marx, the theocratic populism of Islam’s periodic reform movements: these transcendent models guide the council in all decisions. SCRME’S chairman, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, Minister of National Defense, and President of Kush was (is, the Statesman’s Year-Book has it) Colonel Hakim Felix Ellellou–that is to say, myself.
The main change since 1978, besides the quadrupling of the population, is that everybody has a smartphone and Facebook to ogle their second cousins’ show-off photos of how awesome their lives in Europe are compared to back home in Kush.
Camp of the Saints tl,dr:
Are you willing to fire that LMG in controlled bursts on huddled masses yearning to breathe free?
But i want them dead. The staged photo of that toddler face down in the sea?
No more than a dead coyote to me. I love dogs... but coyotes are vermin. Same for the masses of the 3rd world. I've been there...farther than most. Java is a large toilet... seeping red soil and feces for 50 miles at sea. If the entire island sank into the sea... with only its' human inhabitants... I WOULD CHEER.Ebola is our friend. Zika too... so when people lament the carpet bombing of the
Middle East? I say it's the best, fastest, most efficient way to rid ourselves of this coming plague of worthless breeders.Why kill them hand to hand in the suburbs of Dallas or Lyon? Crispr anyone?IT's the new humanity... use it or lose it
Steve, you need to specify Congo-Brazzaville or Congo-Kinshasa. The two Congos are adjacent and share a name but are very different countries. They’re usually differentiated by mentioning their capital cities, though Congo-Kinshasa also sometimes adds ‘democratic republic of’ to its name reflecting its long history of being less democratic than Congo-Brazzaville which gets only ‘republic of.’
That population line you have looks like Congo-Kinshasa.
I wonder if all planets in the universe having emergent technological civilizations end in this way? That is, a smart fraction creates civilization only to be followed by a population expansion of a dull somato-archaic populus that leaves the civilization in ruins. If so, the universe may be littered with the ruins of former civilizations as its modal outcome. This could be the answer to the Fermi Paradox.
Nice, although I prefer the tag given them by my kids -- mono-synaptic.Replies: @Stan Adams
Certainly wouldn’t call the Congo an “obscure” country.
Going back to the time when as the “Congo Free State” it was essentially the personal estate of King Leopold II of Belgium and where great atrocities were perpetrated, then when it became independent amid much international turmoil in 1960 and an ensuing civil war (and the site of the UN Secretary-General’s death in a plane crash), and for many years afterwards when it was a favored “client” state of the West under the name of Zaire, it has been been anything but obscure.
The fact that it is one of the most mineral-rich countries in the world obviously has a lot to do with its relative inobscurity.
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.htmlReplies: @dr kill, @gda
And now, this CUNT pops up from nowhereland of Sailer's charts.
O tempora o mores!
F**k that shit . How did we come from this : A clown celebrating our freedom and independence
to this ?
Celebrating two f**king perverts abusing a child and not a white man in the nation bold enough to speak out in defense of that child ? Exterminate those two perverts and rescue that child .
We all know who would have rescued that poor child don’t we ?
That population line you have looks like Congo-Kinshasa.Replies: @Lot, @dr kill, @Flip, @Ed
President Mobutu’s policy of not having the same name as the nation to his north was as wise as his leopard fur hat was swank.
Perhaps the ancient cartographers were acting not from ignorance but from a deep and uncanny wisdom when they modeled interior Africa as an amorphous landmass denoted only by the caveat “Here be Dragons.”
We ought to adopt that practice again. Africa should be separated from the civilized world. No trade, no aid, nothing goes in, nothing comes out. The complete quarantine of Africa is necessary in any case to prevent the eventual outbreak of a global epidemic. The thought of these teeming refugee ships spewing their untraced human cargo willy nilly onto the shores of Italy, combined with the knowledge that Ebola could flare up again at any time, ought to make any sane government arm the torpedoes.
African fertility will eventually decline as it urbanizes and the average subsistence farmer has less and less land. But the UN’s depressing projections already accounts for this.
Perhaps advances in contraception will make it cheaper and simpler and unexpectedly reduce African fertility.
I do not think mass starvation will reduce any of these nations’ populations, at least in the next 30 years. Ag tech keeps advancing and Africa is more peaceful now than during the Cold War, allowing its natural resources to be traded for food and ag equipment.
If this were not depressing enough, within-race dysgenic fertility is far worse in Africa than in the West, and on top of this is inbreeding and high paternal age.
Anyone care to use the UN population figures for 1950, 2000, 2050, and 2100 and estimate average global IQ?
As in the past, European “white flight” might turn out something like this.
Europeans actually do have a frontier tradition, just not within Europe. All four of those countries have histories of colonialism.
If Africans can’t make a go of it in Africa, maybe there will be a return of European colonialization of Africa.
The good news is that the Sahara desert is still there, and the Mediterranean is still there. It is actually fairly easy for Europe to block immigration from Africa given even a small amount of willpower. Also the Turkish and Syrian populations in Germany are not excited about having a lot of sub-Saharan Africans moving in, and within 30 years they will be the ones controlling German politics.
OTH, this chart is incredibly bad news for South Africa, a country already suffering from Nigerian immigrants.
Keep in mind that the US has TONS of open land and space and you can move for thousands of miles and dozens of big cities and stay in the same society. In Europe population density is high, moving within a country from a main city often means moving to a more economically limited place. You could move to another major city but that would often mean moving to a totally new country, often with a new language and if one is seeking to escape non-whites, a much poorer city. People just don’t do that. Whilst some countries have a emigration tradition, many really don’t and the mental acceptance of it as an option is more burdensome and painful.
Look at Belgium, there is practically no land for the Flemish and Walloons to flee to and stay in their own country. Brussels and the other major cities are slowly consuming everything in every direction. You’re basically putting the native population in a hostile cage which reduces their wellbeing and birth rate with groups that have very high fertility. It’s a bit like the West Bank but the people being displaced have a material advantage and some comforts.
I find myself more and more alienated from it, but I could never contemplate moving from my city, the bulk of my ancestors have been living in it for at least 800 years, probably closer to 1000. I remember growing up it being homogeneous and having an identity, just 20 years ago! It’s not someplace I live, it’s a part of me.
This reminds me of In Bruges. I don't get the like for In Bruges on this blog.
1. White girls live Black Men
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think about
https://youtu.be/hhCZ3xfS9Qw
The beauteous Whoopi Goldberg saw you coming and immediately headed in the opposite direction.
Look at Belgium, there is practically no land for the Flemish and Walloons to flee to and stay in their own country. Brussels and the other major cities are slowly consuming everything in every direction. You're basically putting the native population in a hostile cage which reduces their wellbeing and birth rate with groups that have very high fertility. It's a bit like the West Bank but the people being displaced have a material advantage and some comforts.
I find myself more and more alienated from it, but I could never contemplate moving from my city, the bulk of my ancestors have been living in it for at least 800 years, probably closer to 1000. I remember growing up it being homogeneous and having an identity, just 20 years ago! It's not someplace I live, it's a part of me.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonym
Detroit is kind of an British-American town, with lots of Eminem-type ex-hillbillies. They lit out for the suburbs when blacks took over the city. That’s what Americans do, head for the frontier, like Tom and Huck at the end of Huckleberry Finn.
In contrast, Pittsburgh is more of a Central European town. The Bohunks hunkered down and held on to their city.
When you are backed into a corner, flight is not an option. White flight becomes white fight.
Look at Belgium, there is practically no land for the Flemish and Walloons to flee to and stay in their own country. Brussels and the other major cities are slowly consuming everything in every direction. You're basically putting the native population in a hostile cage which reduces their wellbeing and birth rate with groups that have very high fertility. It's a bit like the West Bank but the people being displaced have a material advantage and some comforts.
I find myself more and more alienated from it, but I could never contemplate moving from my city, the bulk of my ancestors have been living in it for at least 800 years, probably closer to 1000. I remember growing up it being homogeneous and having an identity, just 20 years ago! It's not someplace I live, it's a part of me.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonym
I find myself more and more alienated from it, but I could never contemplate moving from my city, the bulk of my ancestors have been living in it for at least 800 years, probably closer to 1000. I remember growing up it being homogeneous and having an identity, just 20 years ago! It’s not someplace I live, it’s a part of me.
This reminds me of In Bruges. I don’t get the like for In Bruges on this blog.
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
“All People of Color agree with me”
I don’t. I also do not like being called “a crayon of brown”.
I know you are a troll with nothing better to do.
We ought to adopt that practice again. Africa should be separated from the civilized world. No trade, no aid, nothing goes in, nothing comes out. The complete quarantine of Africa is necessary in any case to prevent the eventual outbreak of a global epidemic. The thought of these teeming refugee ships spewing their untraced human cargo willy nilly onto the shores of Italy, combined with the knowledge that Ebola could flare up again at any time, ought to make any sane government arm the torpedoes.Replies: @dr kill, @The Plutonium Kid, @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
Wall the entire continent , and not peek inside until 2217.
dull somato-archaic .
Nice, although I prefer the tag given them by my kids — mono-synaptic.
Of course, the most worrying phenomenon out of all these possibilities and imponderables is political leftism as practised in Europe, (for the moment I will leave off the damned neo-con useful idiot fools of The Economist et al.).
The phenomenon can already be seen in the UK – thanks to the immigration surge engendered by the right-wing Thatcherite Blair administration, something like 5 to 10 million new immigrants – very statistically significant for the UK – have entered Britain since 1997. Reliably they are hard-core Labour voters. That’s why, in part, Blair invited them in. To secure automatic, permanent, in-built Labour Party rule for Britain. It really is as low and simple as that. The fruits of this policy could be seen in the recent UK General Election. Theresa May ‘unexpectedly’ failed to outright win the election. This result can entirely be put down to the voters of London. If London had voted as the rest of England, May would have romped home.
There’s no need for me to explain London’s demographics.
As London goes, so will the nation.
Unfortunately for The Economist – who egged Blair on – Blair’s right-wing successors were kicked out of power by Labour Party members who always despised his Thatcherite ways. A real commie was put in to replace him, and lo and behold this commie is a winner.
Thus, with demographic trends baked into the cake, expect a hard left future Britain. Also expect, in the future, the absolute and complete abolition of such vestige immigration controls that do exist in the UK, due to the symbiotic Labour/immigrant relationship.
The third world immigrants will demand it.
Labour will accede as it’s in their interests – big salaries and pomposity- the essence of political careers- – depend upon it.
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century 'black swan' Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.Replies: @ANON, @AM, @YetAnotherAnon, @englishmike
The phenomenon can already be seen in the UK - thanks to the immigration surge engendered by the right-wing Thatcherite Blair administration, something like 5 to 10 million new immigrants - very statistically significant for the UK - have entered Britain since 1997. Reliably they are hard-core Labour voters. That's why, in part, Blair invited them in. To secure automatic, permanent, in-built Labour Party rule for Britain. It really is as low and simple as that. The fruits of this policy could be seen in the recent UK General Election. Theresa May 'unexpectedly' failed to outright win the election. This result can entirely be put down to the voters of London. If London had voted as the rest of England, May would have romped home.
There's no need for me to explain London's demographics.
As London goes, so will the nation.
Unfortunately for The Economist - who egged Blair on - Blair's right-wing successors were kicked out of power by Labour Party members who always despised his Thatcherite ways. A real commie was put in to replace him, and lo and behold this commie is a winner.
Thus, with demographic trends baked into the cake, expect a hard left future Britain. Also expect, in the future, the absolute and complete abolition of such vestige immigration controls that do exist in the UK, due to the symbiotic Labour/immigrant relationship.
The third world immigrants will demand it.
Labour will accede as it's in their interests - big salaries and pomposity- the essence of political careers- - depend upon it.Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlie_U, @anon
The British electorate well and truly rejected the nationalist anti-immigration, electable, UKIP party at the polls (no pun intended) a few weeks back.
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century ‘black swan’ Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.
It's painful to watch, knowing the outcome was avoidable and it's solution is unlikely to be peaceful. The British dude with the van was the opening shot back against Islamic London.
If (as is still quite possible) the globalists stop Brexit, then UKIP will revive and quite possibly Farage will return. Demographic change may make another Brexit vote unlikely by that time - at which point some will spit on their hands...
The electors do not vote for the government or its leader but for their local member of parliament (MP). In each consituency (geographical voting area) it is the candidate gaining the most votes who is elected MP. It is then the political party with a workable majority of elected MPs which forms a government. The person who is leader of that party is confirmed (by the monarch) as prime minister. (We do not elect a national leader because we have an unelected one).
This system means that a lot of votes can be "wasted" on candidates/parties which fail to gain the required majority. It also means that the relationship between votes cast and party MPs elected looks very unfair. As several newspapers reported after the 2015 General Election:*[emphasis added in italics]
However, even under a proportional system UKIP would only have been the third largest party in parliament and would have had very limited influence on immigration policy or anything else.
*The unedited version of this report at The Independent has further statistics plus graphs.
That population line you have looks like Congo-Kinshasa.Replies: @Lot, @dr kill, @Flip, @Ed
Now you have me looking at maps. You seem a knowledgeable sort, what’s the small area , demarcated without legend on my map, on the Atlantic coast, with a town called Pointe-Noire to the north, and the Congo River delta to the south? Seems to be jammed in between two Congos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinda_Province
"Cabinda (also spelled Kabinda, formerly called Portuguese Congo, known locally as Tchiowa) is an exclave and province of Angola, [...]
No frontier tradition in Europe?
Remember, Steve, Indo-Europeans were the original frontiersmen, as were historical peoples like Celts and Germanic tribesmen. Classical Greeks were all over the place: from Sicily to Russia.
Later, Germans were notoriously mobile, whether pushing towards the Baltic, or as settlers in Hungary, Transylvania and the Volga region.
Under the pressure of Tatars and Mongols, Russians and Ukranians (as far as they could be distinguished in those days), had to flee for their lives and be ready to settle anywhere on the steppe.
Finally, during the Reconquista, borders between the Christian kingdoms were fuzzy due to Moorish incursions in the North, and during the late 900 and 1000s there was a vast terroritory in Central Spain that was largely lawless, where poor Christian peasants tried their luck between skirmishes. It was a frontier of sorts.
Later, after the 13th Century, when the Moors were finally defeated and only the Kingdom of Grenada remained as a vassal to Castille, the Southern part of Spain was resettled in part with Northern Christians. The same happened after the fall of Grenada in 1492 and after the final expulsion of the 200,000 Moors from Spain in 1617, when large areas, particularly in the Eastern parts of the Peninsula, were deserted.
The frontier spirit is there, somewhere, buried in the European spirit. What’s lacking is the cowardly trend to flee.
It's not all that implausible to imagine the Crusaders can be found in today's Baptists. Or that you'll find the latest reincarnation of German settlers in the Amish and in the mid-West.
The people who are left in Europe are what's left behind when the more mobile part of the population "boiled" off.
Europeans won’t hold onto their cities. Their situation is the same as found in South Africa minus their not being a minority, just wanting to become one. The elite is against Europe staying white and the vast majority of Europeans feel throwing away the future of the their descendants is a small price to pay for not being called Nazis. On top of that most European women want to populate their countries with more aggressive men and feel rape is a small price to pay for doing so. When I was younger I would never have guessed that Europe would voluntarily become a black Muslim part of the caliphate.
Northern Europeans have pathological levels of trust in their governments.
Not too long ago, I was speaking with a young (20-ish) Swede visiting the U.S., and the conversation came around to the demographic transformation of Europe.
He conceded all of the major points to me - yes, there were far too many "refugees" in Sweden, and yes, Swedes were not having nearly enough kids to replace themselves.
I told him that the inevitable result was that Sweden as he knew it would be dead and gone within 20 or 30 years.
He said - and this is a direct quote: "The government will not allow that to happen."
Stan: "The government is the driving force behind the invasion. The government is making it happen."
Swede: "They won't let it happen."
An older woman I know - a 70-something Swedish-born lady who left in her youth, worked as a Pan Am flight attendant, became a U.S. citizen, married an American, and raised a family here - has been making yearly visits to her homeland for decades now. She tells me that her country is almost unrecognizable.
One time, we were discussing this in the presence of a couple of older (white) British tourists. Our tone made it apparent that neither of us was in favor of Third World immigration. They started giving us very nasty looks.
(Admittedly, this was right after I'd had my hair cut very short. Around that time, some asshole stopped me on the street and said, "Nice haircut, Trump voter.")Replies: @AM, @Ed, @anon
The Geneva Convention on ‘refugees’ *MUST* be repealed at the earliest possible opportunity.
If it comes down to a choice of either the EU going or the Geneva Convention going, it *MUST* be the EU that goes.
“How this will all work out is not something that Europe’s political elites want to discuss with their voters.” Yes, not only do the elites NOT want to have this “conversation, they they bring down the mailed-fist on the brave few who make the attempt, under the guise of hate speech. Recently in Germany — “In a coordinated campaign across 14 states, the German police on Tuesday raided the homes of 36 people accused of hateful postings over social media, including threats, coercion and incitement to racism.
http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/06/angela-merkel-stalin-in-drag.html
Jacob Zuma is turning South Africa into Zimbabwe and further extraction of its mineral wealth will become impossible under black rule. Its agricultural wealth is being destroyed by the murder of white farmers and the clamor for land to be given to black savages to cultivate. The point is that South Africa was not subsaharan Africa 27 years ago. It was a nuclear power and a first world nation.
When Nigerian and Angolan oil is depleted and South Africa collapses there will be no more sources of wealth to sustain the continent. Cocoa beans, palm oil and rubber plantations can’t support 100 million people much less a billion. Without multinational corporate investment and the patina of law and order it requires the entire subsaharan region will collapse as NGOs and International Aid organizations will no longer be able to physically get in and operate as local governments become too weak and impoverished to maintain order.
The only hope would be if China decides it is willing to pick up the White Man’s burden and manage Africa in exchange for access to its raw materials. With the low hanging fruit having already been harvested and the cost of maintaining order exceeding any potential benefit I’m skeptical they will. An apocalypse of disease and savagery on a scale not seen before will be the future of Africa.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/24/world/africa/angola-luanda-jose-eduardo-dos-santos.amp.html
Great qoute of The Coup, which is one of the two great books of the late John Updike.
Kush seems mostly modeled on Tchad, with doses of a few other countries (mainly Niger and Sudan, it appears) thrown in.
Those AIDS and Ebola thingies aren’t working as well as planned … how long before TPTB go back to the labs for the next super-bug?
That population line you have looks like Congo-Kinshasa.Replies: @Lot, @dr kill, @Flip, @Ed
Sort of like Hesse-Kassel and Hesse-Darmstadt. Zaire was a good name.
show-off photos of how awesome their lives in Europe
Eko Atlantic in Nigeria will be nicer than where you live, assuming it is built. And I bet they have no quams about deporting Africans off the island to an uncertain life in the mainland.
http://www.ekoatlantic.com
Animated Map: The Most Populous Cities in the World
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/animated-map-worlds-populous-cities-2100/
The phenomenon can already be seen in the UK - thanks to the immigration surge engendered by the right-wing Thatcherite Blair administration, something like 5 to 10 million new immigrants - very statistically significant for the UK - have entered Britain since 1997. Reliably they are hard-core Labour voters. That's why, in part, Blair invited them in. To secure automatic, permanent, in-built Labour Party rule for Britain. It really is as low and simple as that. The fruits of this policy could be seen in the recent UK General Election. Theresa May 'unexpectedly' failed to outright win the election. This result can entirely be put down to the voters of London. If London had voted as the rest of England, May would have romped home.
There's no need for me to explain London's demographics.
As London goes, so will the nation.
Unfortunately for The Economist - who egged Blair on - Blair's right-wing successors were kicked out of power by Labour Party members who always despised his Thatcherite ways. A real commie was put in to replace him, and lo and behold this commie is a winner.
Thus, with demographic trends baked into the cake, expect a hard left future Britain. Also expect, in the future, the absolute and complete abolition of such vestige immigration controls that do exist in the UK, due to the symbiotic Labour/immigrant relationship.
The third world immigrants will demand it.
Labour will accede as it's in their interests - big salaries and pomposity- the essence of political careers- - depend upon it.Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlie_U, @anon
Sheesh, a black pill a day sure keeps the hope away.
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
“White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle-aged virgin.”
The beauteous Whoopi Goldberg saw you coming and immediately headed in the opposite direction.
If the only solution they can see is flight to a new frontier rather than closing their borders, they’re finished anyway. The whole exodus from Africa could be brought to a halt in a week if the will to do so was there. It’s beyond absurd when people flee from invaders their navies took the trouble of ferrying to their countries in the first place.
What in the heck do you do when Europe is so determined to fall on the knife, at least right now?
Gheesh, they'll claim to they need control the weather as they claim that the migrants are just like the rain. Hello, they require European help just even get to the border so they can put their foot on it.
The EU could simply pay Libya to house migrants. Since many are African they'd soon give up and return home by foot and vehicle. At the end of the day the European people were given s chance to change direction and chose not to. Merkel is empowered so such an action is not going to happen.Replies: @jim jones
The European policy of creating large new underclasses of people who have little in common with the traditional inhabitants of their countries is perhaps the biggest blunder in Western civilization’s history. It is essentially cultural suicide, and in a century most of Europe will essentially be mausoleum to a formerly great culture.
Going back to the time when as the "Congo Free State" it was essentially the personal estate of King Leopold II of Belgium and where great atrocities were perpetrated, then when it became independent amid much international turmoil in 1960 and an ensuing civil war (and the site of the UN Secretary-General's death in a plane crash), and for many years afterwards when it was a favored "client" state of the West under the name of Zaire, it has been been anything but obscure.
The fact that it is one of the most mineral-rich countries in the world obviously has a lot to do with its relative inobscurity.Replies: @Pericles, @bored identity
I thought Moldbug’s post on Congo/Zaire was the best. Particularly the little surprise article in Time from 1955 (the original now ensconced behind a paywall, but the quoted part is enough).
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.html
If it comes down to a choice of either the EU going or the Geneva Convention going, it *MUST* be the EU that goes.Replies: @Pericles, @anon
The concept of ‘refugees’ and the stupid suicidal generosity with which we treat them is a malignant joke a la Alinsky (“make them live up to their own rules”) and cannot continue. That’s the net result of all of this.
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
C’mon Tiny……you’re not sexually maladroit. You’re sexually unequipped. And a “virgin”….? Hardly! You’re merely on the “receiving end of things”!
You should really read Leonard Pitts! All people of color agree!
Niger is “obscure”? Not to Gilbert & Sullivan (who however think that “Niger” rhymes with “tiger” and that tigers live in Africa):
“Yes, I like to see a tiger
From the Congo or the Niger
And especially when lashing of his tail!”
It is Cabinda, a province of Angola.
Aside from the destruction of Europe, the looming population explosion in Africa will mean the end for most of Africa’s wildlife. Every animal larger than a cat will be either be killed for the bushmeat trade or poached. Most of the animal habitats will be destroyed for firewood and/or farms. It will be an incomprehensible tragedy.
This is what is going on in Europe and the West in general :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare
It is the Angolese exclave of Cabinda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinda_Province
Whatever happens, Europe’s future won’t be African. Africans will make a sizeable contribution to the gene pool, but that’s about all. The don’t create anything we’d call a civilization, legal system, etc. Other peoples will step in to fill the vacuum left by the departed whites if they leave their countries – most likely Muslims.
Like Jews, blacks will find that a truly new world in which white Christians have little power globally will mean that they face Hell on earth. There are today more Moslems that would exterminate Jews than there were in all Islamic history for its first 11 centuries combined. And most of those Moslems also see blacks as the pets of white Liberals.
Moslems are the kind of people to slaughter all the pets of the people they replace.
I can understand white fright, but white flight? Except maybe on a spaceship to an as yet unidentified planet, since there’s no unvibrant place on earth left to flee to.
OTOH, it's not too late to take our country back, lots of detail in this article:Finally, there's some consideration of the dangers we citizens face from these people.
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century 'black swan' Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.Replies: @ANON, @AM, @YetAnotherAnon, @englishmike
Same thing here in America. We got a good jolt to the system with Trump, but even if he had his act together, Big Government would crush him, along with its allies in the MSM, the institutions, and so on.
In the event, however, it’s not even a contest. Just a brief, illusory respite while the demographic transformation continues unabated.
But Cleveland, Chicago and St. Louis, among others, were full of Central Europeans, too. I can’t figure out how Pittsburgh did it. Was it the proximity to Appalachia?
Cabinda, historically part of Angola.
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
Don’t you ever get tired of your stupid troll act? It’s become pretty boring by now.
Just because you cannot refute my arguments doesn't mean that are not valid.
Europe will become majority Islamic before too long. They will quickly stop allowing Sub-Sahara blacks from migrating..instead of rescuing the migrants, the ships will be allowed to sink. Aid to African Nations from Europe will cease once the Islamists take power in Germany, France and the UK. Muslims are 30% of the teenagers in France…just 30% are Christian. …
That appears to be an exclave of Angola called Cabinda Province.
In the future, corporations that wish to develop Africa’s resources will employ private mercenary armies to safeguard their infrastructure investment. Central governments, ours or theirs, will play no part in the matter. In this oddly ironic way, Marx’s dream of the withering away of the State will come to pass.
Africa’s problem is that its people have never been interested in steady employment even when jobs were made available to them by colonialists or imperialists. Its is more cost effective for the Chinese to bring in their own workers even if that means putting them up in dorms.
We ought to adopt that practice again. Africa should be separated from the civilized world. No trade, no aid, nothing goes in, nothing comes out. The complete quarantine of Africa is necessary in any case to prevent the eventual outbreak of a global epidemic. The thought of these teeming refugee ships spewing their untraced human cargo willy nilly onto the shores of Italy, combined with the knowledge that Ebola could flare up again at any time, ought to make any sane government arm the torpedoes.Replies: @dr kill, @The Plutonium Kid, @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
Do that, and the global economy will very quickly run short of rare earths and other critical mineral resources.
Cabinda Province, an isolated bit of Angola.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Cabinda_Province
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinda_Province
“Cabinda (also spelled Kabinda, formerly called Portuguese Congo, known locally as Tchiowa) is an exclave and province of Angola, […]
Large parts of Europe, especially big cities in Western Europe, are already gone. The demographic change has happened and it is almost certainly irreversible. So the culture, politics and eventually business will change there. They will become a quasi Brazil-like territories with a small – and shrinking – upper white/mixed class, and layers of different multi-cultural groups beneath, who might or might not get along. As with Brazil, they will no longer be viable and well-functioning societies. Too bad for them.
The question is about the rest of Europe, especially the Central and Eastern Europe that has been mostly untouched by the mass immigration. Will Prague, Budapest, Riga and Krakow follow the same demographic transition? The big issue is that within EU people can move freely – so the 50-60 million migrants in Western Europe with all of their soon to be coming relatives can legally start moving east. The languages pose a bit of a barrier, but if there are enough migrants they would basically force a creation of English, French, German, Spanish speaking ghettoes that would slowly grow.
This could get really ugly. Who in the West thought that this would be a good idea? Are those countries run by infantile absurdists with no ability to think long-term? Has the venerable absurdist playwright Havel been reincarnated as Merkel, Macron, May and all the other childless ‘leaders’? (Havel also had no children, that explains a lot about him – incl. his current 10-20% ‘popularity’ in his home country).
Jews? Globalists? The cheap Labor lobby? Treasonous politicians like the U.K. Labour party that decided to import Muslims and Africans to get votes? Just plain stupidity? I have wondered about this myself a great deal.
Malthus was right. He was right when he wrote his famous treatise, and he’s right today.
One is reminded that Malthus did not predict a global apocalypse. Malthus predicted nothing, but only described what was occurring in the real world. When people who could maybe support two kids, instead have six or seven, the result is grinding brutal poverty and misery.
It should also be noted that it matters HOW a fertility rate falls. If the fertility rate is held moderate because people are being careful not to have more children than they can reasonably support, that is a good thing, it preserves resources and capital, and makes possible a surplus to re-invest. If the fertility rate is low because chronic malnutrition has made it impossible for most women to successfully bring more than a small number of pregnancies to term, that is a bad thing, it means that the society is crushed against the limits and is miserable and capital starved and corrupt.
In many places across the world, like India, the fertility rate seems to be falling because of the second option. There are today about half a billion Indians suffering from chronic malnutrition: they are NOT going to each have seven children each.
OT:
BHL has written a new book:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-vanity-bernard-henri-l%C3%A9vy-21306
OT:
Hate hoax alert:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Police-investigate-2-possible-hate-crimes-against-11245035.php
How do you “fill” a large, heavy book with bacon? Was it cooked or raw? Was it maple-flavored or pepper-crusted?
The UN appears not to understand carrying capacity. For Whites the carrying capacity of the Earth might be around 40 or 50 Trillion. For blacks maybe one. Anything after one is either a conflict or a murder scene.
In AD 2100 the population of Nigeria will be 794 million. That’s larger than the population of Europe today, at 742 million. In addition a great many of the “Europeans” of 2100 – perhaps a majority – will be descended from Africans and Middle Easterners.
Cultural and demographic suicide can’t end quickly enough.
“Somao-archaic populus.” Sounds like the Morlocks of “The Time Machine” fame. Thus, the bit about the Fermi Paradox serves as an interesting thought question.
Hey, here’s a possibility: maybe the Chinese, concerned about the fate of their African investments, will teach Africans to restrain themselves. They don’t have any jews or white women in China so they might not feel guilty about doing what needs t be done.
That’s the only way I see white civilization not going poof so I’m just throwing it out there.
What will the Chinese do differently to us? There is already a growing black population in China. With more colonialism this will increase. Wealth also brings decadence.
Where will we go? This is also my question; there will be no escape from the population pressure of 4 billion Africans.
OTOH, it’s not too late to take our country back, lots of detail in this article:
Finally, there’s some consideration of the dangers we citizens face from these people.
”White flight” or ”coward flight”
Maybe J0:00s have everything on control isn’t*
Specially when technology become even more powerful and directly intrusive…
We ought to adopt that practice again. Africa should be separated from the civilized world. No trade, no aid, nothing goes in, nothing comes out. The complete quarantine of Africa is necessary in any case to prevent the eventual outbreak of a global epidemic. The thought of these teeming refugee ships spewing their untraced human cargo willy nilly onto the shores of Italy, combined with the knowledge that Ebola could flare up again at any time, ought to make any sane government arm the torpedoes.Replies: @dr kill, @The Plutonium Kid, @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
By chance I discovered recently that Ebola is actually named after a river in northern Congo (Congo Kinshasa, to live up to Owen’s request for precision), not too far from the border with the Central African Republic. I guess that’s a region where they appreciate their bushmeat, and where the virus first manifested itself in humans.
Trump can changed the current immigration policy that favors Latinos and Asians-Hart-Caller and let in more Europeans.
Perhaps advances in contraception will make it cheaper and simpler and unexpectedly reduce African fertility.
I do not think mass starvation will reduce any of these nations' populations, at least in the next 30 years. Ag tech keeps advancing and Africa is more peaceful now than during the Cold War, allowing its natural resources to be traded for food and ag equipment.Replies: @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
But the people of Niger, Uganda, Congo, and many others do not want to reduce their fertility rates, whatever advanced and cheap contraception techniques may be available! Islamic and/or traditionally African mores and ideas about what constitutes a good and successful life are the crux of the matter.
Remember, Steve, Indo-Europeans were the original frontiersmen, as were historical peoples like Celts and Germanic tribesmen. Classical Greeks were all over the place: from Sicily to Russia.
Later, Germans were notoriously mobile, whether pushing towards the Baltic, or as settlers in Hungary, Transylvania and the Volga region.
Under the pressure of Tatars and Mongols, Russians and Ukranians (as far as they could be distinguished in those days), had to flee for their lives and be ready to settle anywhere on the steppe.
Finally, during the Reconquista, borders between the Christian kingdoms were fuzzy due to Moorish incursions in the North, and during the late 900 and 1000s there was a vast terroritory in Central Spain that was largely lawless, where poor Christian peasants tried their luck between skirmishes. It was a frontier of sorts.
Later, after the 13th Century, when the Moors were finally defeated and only the Kingdom of Grenada remained as a vassal to Castille, the Southern part of Spain was resettled in part with Northern Christians. The same happened after the fall of Grenada in 1492 and after the final expulsion of the 200,000 Moors from Spain in 1617, when large areas, particularly in the Eastern parts of the Peninsula, were deserted.
The frontier spirit is there, somewhere, buried in the European spirit. What's lacking is the cowardly trend to flee.Replies: @AM
Yes, we call them Americans. 🙂 That’s the problem. There has been an enormous self-selection of at least two groups going for now for over 400 years.
It’s not all that implausible to imagine the Crusaders can be found in today’s Baptists. Or that you’ll find the latest reincarnation of German settlers in the Amish and in the mid-West.
The people who are left in Europe are what’s left behind when the more mobile part of the population “boiled” off.
This is worth repeating. What do you see in those migrant boats? European technology transporting Africans, all organized by the Europeans.
What in the heck do you do when Europe is so determined to fall on the knife, at least right now?
Gheesh, they’ll claim to they need control the weather as they claim that the migrants are just like the rain. Hello, they require European help just even get to the border so they can put their foot on it.
I wasn’t aware of Updike’s The Coup — from the extract, it definitely comes across as a thing to read.
Kush seems mostly modeled on Tchad, with doses of a few other countries (mainly Niger and Sudan, it appears) thrown in.
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century 'black swan' Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.Replies: @ANON, @AM, @YetAnotherAnon, @englishmike
Very true. The only question is when do the Brits realize that their magic soil isn’t working anymore and they’ll have to dissolve their republic (or at least limit it only to actual native Brits.) It might take another generation or two. Recent surveys, though, say millennials really don’t care about a republican form of government – that’s the Boomers.
It’s painful to watch, knowing the outcome was avoidable and it’s solution is unlikely to be peaceful. The British dude with the van was the opening shot back against Islamic London.
“…the Germans used to fight like Hell” — Mandy Patinkin in “Homeland” Fifth season.
The European Cosmopolitans have totally scrambled the brains of their subjects, I’m afraid. Look how they’ve meekly accepted every gun control law TPTB proposes; and that includes the so-called conservatives (“Tories”). Look at how they’ve accepted every “hate speech” proposal. Even Canada is going down the same river with “hate speech” legislation. Not that the USA is that much better, just look at our communist Northeast for the gun control laws they continually invent, totally supported by the white Lefties.
No reason for whitey to leave Europe; all you need is widespread mutiny. The white guy in the van COULD be the vanguard of a slow rolling start for Battlefield Europe.
After all, as Patrick Swazey said in Red Dawn: “Because we live here.”
Can’t think of a better reason for a resisting People’s Militia.
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
Tiny,
MAGA, BABY, MAGA.
Bless your little heart, hon.
Hmm. Germans trying to flee to Poland and Hungary, and being told to keep out.
It seems to be Tilala Region of Kouilou, Congo, Republic of the (Brazzaville)
What’s the other?
I don’t necessarily buy the predictions of doom and gloom. Of course this is one possibility. But there is a sea change currently afoot, and Europe enjoys numerous advantages (particularly technological) in the event Europeans are made to face the existential threat posed by the Most Important Graph in the World.
Personally I have no problem dropping however many nuclear bombs on Africa it takes to secure the existence of the white race and a future for white children.
This is one reason why I am skeptical about the “last transport off of Earth”-type scifi scenarios that I have been seeing lately; why would a civilization that is capable of colonizing Mars (etc.) cede its home planet to poorly organized hordes of illiterate barbarians? There is also the matter of the ongoing and accelerating Chinese colonization of Africa. Of course a hypothetical hybrid warrior race with an East Asian IQ and a Sub-Saharan African propensity for violence is a new kind of terrifying, but within the next 100 years China will have its own interest in a docile Dark Continent. I don’t expect they will allow the nightmare scenario to come to fruition.
How sure are we that the curve is real?
The figures have been revised upwards based on new data. However, many of these countries governments depend extensively on foreign aid for their budgets (one country, the name of which escapes me, for something like 75%).
If foreign aid is based on population, can the new figures be trusted any more than the old ones?
2. Africa was faked by white men. Karma is a bitch
3. White men are sexually maladroit. I myself am a middle aged virgin
4. White men out of power is a great thing as white men contribute nothing to society. All People of Color agree with me
Just some things to think aboutReplies: @berserker, @Detective Club, @fish, @German_reader, @e, @Daniel Chieh
Tell us more!
Which of the 71 available genders are you aiming for?
“Europeans, however, don’t have that kind of tradition of moving on. They like their cities. They’ve been living in them for hundreds of years.”
And, lo, the populations of the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Argentina, Chile, and so forth were conjured up from the earth, for no European ever left home.
How long will this population outflow continue to bypass Israel? Are they Israelis worried that they too will eventually be swallowed up?
When I was younger I would never have guess that America would voluntarily become a part of Latin America.
Is Icelandic a tough language?
Perhaps apropos:
“South Africa’s ageing white mercenaries who helped turn tide on Boko Haram: Battle-hardened soldiers, many of them paramilitary leftovers of the apartheid regime, have pursued private wars simply to put bread on the table”, The Guardian, David Smith, 14 April 2015:
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century 'black swan' Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.Replies: @ANON, @AM, @YetAnotherAnon, @englishmike
No, UKIP voters in Tory areas voted Tory to enable May to deliver Brexit, and UKIP voters in Labour areas believed Corbyn when he said Brexit would happen and Labour would support it (perhaps a naive view, but on the other hand many Corbyn policies like renationalisation would not be possible inside the EU. It was EU rules that made them privatise the postal service. Corbyn is hopelessly naive if he thinks Muslims will be the spearhead of the proletariat, but he’s not a globalist).
If (as is still quite possible) the globalists stop Brexit, then UKIP will revive and quite possibly Farage will return. Demographic change may make another Brexit vote unlikely by that time – at which point some will spit on their hands…
That population line you have looks like Congo-Kinshasa.Replies: @Lot, @dr kill, @Flip, @Ed
The DR Congo and Kinsasha have been described as hell on Earth or the most miserable places on Earth for decades now.
I read a few years ago that 2 million Nigerians have the right of abode in the UK. Fun times for Britain when war gets popping there and if this figure is even remotely accurate.
Nice, although I prefer the tag given them by my kids -- mono-synaptic.Replies: @Stan Adams
“Dumb-uck” works for me.
Obviously, things have to get a lot worse before…………..they get even worse still.
Equal time for the competition, eh?
“South African mercenaries’ secret war on Boko Haram”: Mercenaries from South Africa have proved quietly decisive in helping the Nigerian military turn around its campaign against Boko Haram, writes Colin Freeman in Abuja”, The Telegraph, Colin Freeman, 10 May 2015:
Perhaps it is to be neo-colonialism:
Maybe you shouldn’t have learned biology from Frank Zappa. And who genetically engineered the bubonic plague?
It’s quite baffling that the EU won’t adopt the Austrailian model of housing so called refugees that arrive irregularly in a 3rd less desirable country. The flows, smuggling networks dried up within weeks.
The EU could simply pay Libya to house migrants. Since many are African they’d soon give up and return home by foot and vehicle. At the end of the day the European people were given s chance to change direction and chose not to. Merkel is empowered so such an action is not going to happen.
When Nigerian and Angolan oil is depleted and South Africa collapses there will be no more sources of wealth to sustain the continent. Cocoa beans, palm oil and rubber plantations can't support 100 million people much less a billion. Without multinational corporate investment and the patina of law and order it requires the entire subsaharan region will collapse as NGOs and International Aid organizations will no longer be able to physically get in and operate as local governments become too weak and impoverished to maintain order.
The only hope would be if China decides it is willing to pick up the White Man's burden and manage Africa in exchange for access to its raw materials. With the low hanging fruit having already been harvested and the cost of maintaining order exceeding any potential benefit I'm skeptical they will. An apocalypse of disease and savagery on a scale not seen before will be the future of Africa.Replies: @Ed
Speaking of Angola, the NYT has a nice feature on the corruption there. Pretty staggering sums that even put off a participant of the gorging at the public troph. Another interesting factoid is that the country imports Portuguese workers to do basic road maintenance. Whoever said the future of Africa is bright is liar or delusional.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/24/world/africa/angola-luanda-jose-eduardo-dos-santos.amp.html
And history declares that when they have the power, Elites of Muslim countries will enslave tens of millions of black Africans, castrating almost all the males.
Like Jews, blacks will find that a truly new world in which white Christians have little power globally will mean that they face Hell on earth. There are today more Moslems that would exterminate Jews than there were in all Islamic history for its first 11 centuries combined. And most of those Moslems also see blacks as the pets of white Liberals.
Moslems are the kind of people to slaughter all the pets of the people they replace.
I imagine its a hard struggle between DRC, Niger, Somalia, and Eritrea (I suppose Liberia and South Sudan might also be strong contenders at times).
In fact Liberia & Ethiopia, the two countries never colonized in Africa have been laggards economically even by African standards.
In Michel Houellebecq’s novel Submission, one of the characters, after his Jewish girlfriend flees France for Israel, asks the question :
“Where’s our Israel?”
In the coming decades many more will ask the same question.
That’s Cabinda in Angola. Full of oil. Pointe Noire is in Rep. Congo and is also full of oil.
This Anglophile loves Updike’s character from Cush. But the stark fact is that there can not be a single individual with that level of self-awareness born of that land. And in the land of the retarded the most cunning man is king, not the most intelligent.
Never a dull Moment in the entire book.
The EU could simply pay Libya to house migrants. Since many are African they'd soon give up and return home by foot and vehicle. At the end of the day the European people were given s chance to change direction and chose not to. Merkel is empowered so such an action is not going to happen.Replies: @jim jones
The driving force of Politics is Altruism, any attempt at producing a system which reduces the chance to display Altruism will be attacked.
Someone who was altruistic, even pathological so, you could make a case for the West's kids and how all this immigration impacts them. They might morph into a devouring set of parents, but there would be a level of concern for the kid's future at some level.
If you try that argument with the narcissistic politics of the West, you get a shoulder shrug. Narcissists lack empathy for whom they should have the most, their children. Their children are there to make them happy, not the other around.
No, Generation Narcissism is Going To Stamp Out Racism Forever (TM), feel bad about poor people in other places, and oh, by the way, make sure there are enough young people paying into their retirement systems because someone told them there aren't enough. What happens after is not their problem, because they're going to be dead.
Interestingly the same mindset don't care about their children's future also produces "Forever young" mentality because it doesn't feel good to think about death. Thus you have Cher complaining about the oldsters in the Democratic party and wishing they would die or move to let somebody new in without even parsing the idea that she is easily as old as everyone she's complaining about and doing the same thing by sucking up the spot light.
I just don't see big shifts happening until the Clintons and assorted similar age politicians are out of power. They can afford 20-30 years of this, assuming there's no currency collapse.Replies: @ANON
I heard a team from Evergreen College is working on that very thing!
It really is excellent.
On the subject of white fight
White People Keep Finding New Ways to Segregate Schools
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/white-people-keep-finding-new-ways-to-segregate-schools/
What’s the problem with Eritea? By sub Saharan standards it seems to be functioning well.
How old were you when The Camp of the Saints was published?
Northern Europeans have pathological levels of trust in their governments.
Not too long ago, I was speaking with a young (20-ish) Swede visiting the U.S., and the conversation came around to the demographic transformation of Europe.
He conceded all of the major points to me – yes, there were far too many “refugees” in Sweden, and yes, Swedes were not having nearly enough kids to replace themselves.
I told him that the inevitable result was that Sweden as he knew it would be dead and gone within 20 or 30 years.
He said – and this is a direct quote: “The government will not allow that to happen.”
Stan: “The government is the driving force behind the invasion. The government is making it happen.”
Swede: “They won’t let it happen.”
An older woman I know – a 70-something Swedish-born lady who left in her youth, worked as a Pan Am flight attendant, became a U.S. citizen, married an American, and raised a family here – has been making yearly visits to her homeland for decades now. She tells me that her country is almost unrecognizable.
One time, we were discussing this in the presence of a couple of older (white) British tourists. Our tone made it apparent that neither of us was in favor of Third World immigration. They started giving us very nasty looks.
(Admittedly, this was right after I’d had my hair cut very short. Around that time, some asshole stopped me on the street and said, “Nice haircut, Trump voter.”)
She also is more easily hardened on the subject of Islam and Arabs than I am.
Her response about the Arab migrants was "We just need to be careful".
Well, okay then.
Two options:
1. Europeans can have even fewer children to make room for more Africans, who will in turn feel the right to rule Europe, and given their track record, I guess the Africans will then want to move on to somewhere else, leaving behind a mess like they did to Africa.
2. Europe welcomes home the Afrikaners from South Africa. Good for the Afrikaners as it would beat being murdered in their beds under the Zuma regime. Good for the Europeans as the Afrikaners are, compared to other Africans, educated, hard working, intelligent, law abiding, and white.
The future is White slavery, pure and simple, aided and abetted by the genetic flaw in Whites — Universal Utopianism and leapfrogging loyalties and the treacherous nature of White women siding with outside conquerors. Seen in the Gnostics, St. Francis, the Cathars, the Children’s Crusade, and countless other group collectives that are as insane as the Heaven’s Gate cult of the 1990s that castrated themselves in advance of the alien spaceship behind the comet. No, I’m not making that up. It happened.
Then of course, a bloody racial slave revolt with no quarter given or asked, globally.
There is zero chance Africans will limit their fertility. They lack visionary leaders save Kagame, any bit of high IQ to see Malthusian limits, and see Europe as their easy target (because it is). Africans are also incapable of producing enough wealth to feed themselves, much less produce European level prosperity so it is inevitable that African leaders conquering the continent through mass immigration will simply enslave the remaining White men to produce wealth and this enslavement will produce a predictable White revolt since pretty much all White men will be targets. Leading to inevitable planet-wide genocide; mobs of Africans waving machetes and rocks vs. smart swarm drones armed with neurotoxins and DNA-targeting virii.
BUT it is clear to see that allowing Gays or Women ANY role in political and social life has been an unmitigated mass-third-world immavasion disaster. Neither have any scrap of loyalty to White men and neither have any self-interest aligned with that of White men.
Imagine Mark Zuckerberg as a masculine, dominant Master of the Universe with hot and cold running models about and with lots and lots and LOTS of easily seized real property at risk for immavaders. He’d still screw White men over by outsourcing everything to the cheapest labor possible but he would not risk his main source of wealth to immavaders to appease the only women who even reluctantly and with evident disgust touches him; and he would not need to status signal because he’s be the big shot big man like say the Duke of Wellington. Moldbug was onto that at least.
There is no zero zilch nada chance of a continent led by women and gays doing anything but “Rapefugees welcome” and only Russia led by hard men who keep their women in line stands a chance of keeping out the African/Muslim tidal wave soon to destroy and enslave Europe. And America. We are also an easy target and every African over here gets affirmative action privileges over us White men who are the official enemy of the real power centers: a deeply gay/feminized elite.
He is not telling, he is leading (mis)…
So he has gotten your panties all twisted into knots… way to go tiny man!
I’m not (((Owen))) or even (((SteveO))), but it’s Cabinda Province
A geographically interesting remnant of colonial times – a tiny patch of Portuguese Africa sandwiched between Belgian and French bits.
Then there’s the Caprivi Strip, Equitorial Guinea, Djibouti, the Gambia and probably lots of others I’ve forgotten … strange little bits of land left over from the scramble for Africa and ensuing colonial competition and World War-related spoils.
Thanks for that passage from The Coup. I always thought that was one of Updike’s criminally underrated novels, the other being his late period ‘In the Beauty of the Lilies.’ Highly recommended if you haven’t read it!
Guess Blacks and Bohunks aren’t your kind of Americans being that the former encroached on ‘your’ Detroit and the latter didn’t have the good old Tom & Huck spirit to create a new one out there in the vastness… wonder what the river gang would have to say about it!
I don't think "encroached " is Steve's problem. I think destroyed is more like it. Also he wasn't criticizing Bohunks for not "going West" , he was noting that with a longer timeline it was a successful strategy.
Gracias, I can’t believe my HS world hx class skipped over Teh Treaty of Simulambuco!
Very likely more of a ruin than a mausoleum.
We ought to adopt that practice again. Africa should be separated from the civilized world. No trade, no aid, nothing goes in, nothing comes out. The complete quarantine of Africa is necessary in any case to prevent the eventual outbreak of a global epidemic. The thought of these teeming refugee ships spewing their untraced human cargo willy nilly onto the shores of Italy, combined with the knowledge that Ebola could flare up again at any time, ought to make any sane government arm the torpedoes.Replies: @dr kill, @The Plutonium Kid, @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
Prime Directive
Perhaps advances in contraception will make it cheaper and simpler and unexpectedly reduce African fertility.
I do not think mass starvation will reduce any of these nations' populations, at least in the next 30 years. Ag tech keeps advancing and Africa is more peaceful now than during the Cold War, allowing its natural resources to be traded for food and ag equipment.Replies: @Herzog, @Hippopotamusdrome
Maybe they can’t urbanize.
OT:
The Mexican/WSJ nexus/origin of the Trump fake news Russiagate oppo research/propaganda/excuse.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/
The Israelis will come around when it’s too late for everyone. The iSteve readers like Lot and International are like the Jews who left Europe early and escaped the Holocaust. You’d think Jews would learn to be forward-thinking, but instead most stick to whatever strategy seems like it would have worked the last time.
It’s a hardcore almost DPRK-like dictatorship (though of course as a 75 IQ country less organized with more AKs and fewer ballistic missiles) and produces refugees way out of proportion to its population.
Nah you are repeating propaganda. They have forgein stock companies so no comparison to NK:
http://www.nevsun.com/projects/bisha-main/eritrea/
Sadly Eritrea has been sucked into the Yeman war, they host a UAE naval base. But they are hardly a hermit kingdom like NK. So for good or bad their military are more than AKs.
The refugees are a curiosity. Where do they get the money to buy their way to the West. I also suspect many rufgees lie about being from Eritrea. I dont care, dont let them in your country if you don't want them.
Fwiw they seem to have christians and muslims living in a secular state, unlike NK, Saudi Arabia, Israel, ... At this point maybe they are more like a socialist African version of Turkey.
So the NK comparisons are propaganda. Fwiw, Eritrea does not seem to borrow money, which might be why they so hated.
23% debt to GDP, how dare they? They are like the Norks.
https://tradingeconomics.com/eritrea/government-debt-to-gdp
I wonder how many degrees of separation there are between Carlos Slim and that oppo research firm.
Rare earths rotting the fields, so to speak. You like your cheap fresh vegetables, right? You like your cheap new smartphone, right?
Let them eat cake, Yellowcake.
Something a @Plutonium Kid might know about...
I’m reminded of Mr Spock in one of the Star Trek movies. He said “Let the universe unfold as it will”
You might be surprised to read the novel Broken Glass by Alain Mabanckou, born 1966 in the Republic of Kongo.
More about erverday life than about high politics, though. And it’s drenched in alcohol. But except for that – it’s very funny and covers erveryday life (and some politics) in a black-African big city (=Brazzaville?!) with loads of detail – and loads of references to all kinds of topics – from Postmodernism to the African drunken men’s version of French colonialism to John Steinbeck (etc.).
Never a dull Moment in the entire book.
Northern Europeans have pathological levels of trust in their governments.
Not too long ago, I was speaking with a young (20-ish) Swede visiting the U.S., and the conversation came around to the demographic transformation of Europe.
He conceded all of the major points to me - yes, there were far too many "refugees" in Sweden, and yes, Swedes were not having nearly enough kids to replace themselves.
I told him that the inevitable result was that Sweden as he knew it would be dead and gone within 20 or 30 years.
He said - and this is a direct quote: "The government will not allow that to happen."
Stan: "The government is the driving force behind the invasion. The government is making it happen."
Swede: "They won't let it happen."
An older woman I know - a 70-something Swedish-born lady who left in her youth, worked as a Pan Am flight attendant, became a U.S. citizen, married an American, and raised a family here - has been making yearly visits to her homeland for decades now. She tells me that her country is almost unrecognizable.
One time, we were discussing this in the presence of a couple of older (white) British tourists. Our tone made it apparent that neither of us was in favor of Third World immigration. They started giving us very nasty looks.
(Admittedly, this was right after I'd had my hair cut very short. Around that time, some asshole stopped me on the street and said, "Nice haircut, Trump voter.")Replies: @AM, @Ed, @anon
Yep. Performed a similar quiz experiment with a Belgian online, who theoretically enjoys the direct observance of what country looks like when just slightly different ethnic groups are asked to share a government and a soil.
She also is more easily hardened on the subject of Islam and Arabs than I am.
Her response about the Arab migrants was “We just need to be careful”.
Well, okay then.
That's the only way I see white civilization not going poof so I'm just throwing it out there.Replies: @Anonym
Hey, here’s a possibility: maybe the Chinese, concerned about the fate of their African investments, will teach Africans to restrain themselves. They don’t have any jews or white women in China so they might not feel guilty about doing what needs t be done.
What will the Chinese do differently to us? There is already a growing black population in China. With more colonialism this will increase. Wealth also brings decadence.
The driving force of politics is narcissism, not altruism. There are many ways to define narcissism, but two key components are: a lack of empathy and an addiction to feeling like you’re a good person. Thus, it is one of the erratic personality traits on the planet and the one that reason appeals the least to.
Someone who was altruistic, even pathological so, you could make a case for the West’s kids and how all this immigration impacts them. They might morph into a devouring set of parents, but there would be a level of concern for the kid’s future at some level.
If you try that argument with the narcissistic politics of the West, you get a shoulder shrug. Narcissists lack empathy for whom they should have the most, their children. Their children are there to make them happy, not the other around.
No, Generation Narcissism is Going To Stamp Out Racism Forever (TM), feel bad about poor people in other places, and oh, by the way, make sure there are enough young people paying into their retirement systems because someone told them there aren’t enough. What happens after is not their problem, because they’re going to be dead.
Interestingly the same mindset don’t care about their children’s future also produces “Forever young” mentality because it doesn’t feel good to think about death. Thus you have Cher complaining about the oldsters in the Democratic party and wishing they would die or move to let somebody new in without even parsing the idea that she is easily as old as everyone she’s complaining about and doing the same thing by sucking up the spot light.
I just don’t see big shifts happening until the Clintons and assorted similar age politicians are out of power. They can afford 20-30 years of this, assuming there’s no currency collapse.
I’m glad Steve Sailer is educating so many people with these graphs since it is one of the most serious problems. A bigger problem, though, is that that Whites and East Asians are not having enough children.
I believe even the nuttiest Europeans will close their borders before tens of millions of Africans invade, but it will still be too late.
As for whites the birth rates have nothing to do with demographic change. Their leaders are flooding their nations and whites could not keep up with the rest of the world even if they wanted. Besides, the USA at least began to be flooded with immigrants at the tail end of the enormous WW2 baby boom when half the nation was still under age 26. So the fall off in births is probably related to whites being squeezed out, or as Steve put it in another post, "whites don't breed well in captivity." The problem for whites is not the birthrates, but the fact their leaders are bringing in their replacements at a record clip.
I would be interested to know what the white birthrate would have needed to be in the USA for whites to have been able to remain at 88 percent of the population in the face of the largest movement of people in history.Replies: @ANON
Just read The Economist's editorial pages and weep.
Unfortunately, The Economist has enormous influence over the political class.
Terrorist – Intimate portrait of an Islamic American Terrorist.
I add the novel Seek My Face about the high (ehe) times of Abstract Exxpressionism reflected in the minds of two times widowed and one time divorced painter Hope Chafetz and her young interviewer Kathryn D’Angelo, who works for an internet-magazine (quite remarkable when the novel was published in 2002). But this is a very subjective choice, since I’m a photographer.
Those are the – ok now: three – books by John Updike, I’m not only thinking of (like, for example, the Rabbit novels), but thinking over, ervery once in a while.
When you draw these charts, how about adding curves for other pressing 21st century problems, such sea level rise or the use of non-white non-Jewish actors in Hollywood.
If you knew your ancient literature a little better, you’d know it was Apollo.
“Guess Blacks and Bohunks aren’t your kind of Americans being that the former encroached on ‘your’ Detroit and the latter didn’t have the good old Tom & Huck spirit to create a new one out there in the vastness… wonder what the river gang would have to say about it!”
I don’t think “encroached ” is Steve’s problem. I think destroyed is more like it. Also he wasn’t criticizing Bohunks for not “going West” , he was noting that with a longer timeline it was a successful strategy.
It’s more likely that some combination of Muslims and Islamized Europeans would take over Europe before Europe would be inundated by an African population explosion. An Islamicized Europe would be free of the Cultural Marxism that currently dominates and would be free to do things that are currently forbidden by Cultural Marxism’s moral strictures.
"South Africa's ageing white mercenaries who helped turn tide on Boko Haram: Battle-hardened soldiers, many of them paramilitary leftovers of the apartheid regime, have pursued private wars simply to put bread on the table", The Guardian, David Smith, 14 April 2015:Replies: @anon
Reminds one of the late , great Bob Denard…….
https://christopherothen.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/mike-hoare-in-katanga/Replies: @Joe Stalin
Liberia, the country founded by and run by the descendants of American slaves has never had a GDP per capita in excess of $500.
In fact Liberia & Ethiopia, the two countries never colonized in Africa have been laggards economically even by African standards.
Northern Europeans have pathological levels of trust in their governments.
Not too long ago, I was speaking with a young (20-ish) Swede visiting the U.S., and the conversation came around to the demographic transformation of Europe.
He conceded all of the major points to me - yes, there were far too many "refugees" in Sweden, and yes, Swedes were not having nearly enough kids to replace themselves.
I told him that the inevitable result was that Sweden as he knew it would be dead and gone within 20 or 30 years.
He said - and this is a direct quote: "The government will not allow that to happen."
Stan: "The government is the driving force behind the invasion. The government is making it happen."
Swede: "They won't let it happen."
An older woman I know - a 70-something Swedish-born lady who left in her youth, worked as a Pan Am flight attendant, became a U.S. citizen, married an American, and raised a family here - has been making yearly visits to her homeland for decades now. She tells me that her country is almost unrecognizable.
One time, we were discussing this in the presence of a couple of older (white) British tourists. Our tone made it apparent that neither of us was in favor of Third World immigration. They started giving us very nasty looks.
(Admittedly, this was right after I'd had my hair cut very short. Around that time, some asshole stopped me on the street and said, "Nice haircut, Trump voter.")Replies: @AM, @Ed, @anon
I worked with a Swedish woman in NYC during the mid aughts. She studied at the Sorbonne. She was railing against migrants to Sweden back then. I suppose the ones that leave to come to the USA begin to realize how stupid their country has become.
Inbreeding in sub-Saharan Africa? High paternal age? What are your sources for these curious claims?
” DPRK-like dictatorship (though of course as a 75 IQ country less organized”
Nah you are repeating propaganda. They have forgein stock companies so no comparison to NK:
http://www.nevsun.com/projects/bisha-main/eritrea/
Sadly Eritrea has been sucked into the Yeman war, they host a UAE naval base. But they are hardly a hermit kingdom like NK. So for good or bad their military are more than AKs.
The refugees are a curiosity. Where do they get the money to buy their way to the West. I also suspect many rufgees lie about being from Eritrea. I dont care, dont let them in your country if you don’t want them.
Fwiw they seem to have christians and muslims living in a secular state, unlike NK, Saudi Arabia, Israel, … At this point maybe they are more like a socialist African version of Turkey.
So the NK comparisons are propaganda. Fwiw, Eritrea does not seem to borrow money, which might be why they so hated.
23% debt to GDP, how dare they? They are like the Norks.
https://tradingeconomics.com/eritrea/government-debt-to-gdp
“Another possibility is that the people of the region will limit their population through resource wars or disease or starvation.
A third possibility is that vast numbers of people in Niger will move to other places, such as Europe.”
Assuming they can’t feed themselves, more likely than either scenario* is that the parts of the continent that can’t feed themselves will be put on a permanent food dole, a kind of cura annonae, by the rest of the world. As in ancient Rome, it will be seen as a permanent fact of life, the distribution of free or subsidized grain by some international authority. The rest of the world will be able to increase yields enough to feed 3 billion more people pretty easily and the agricultural lobby, efficient at getting its way whether in America, Europe, or Japan, will be for it.
*Moving even 100 million Africans to Europe will be a small drop in the bucket if the population reaches 4 billion, you’d need a lot more
Niger is the poorest of the poor with a GDP per capita of about $350. Millions of Nigeriens will not come to Europe. They simply can't afford it. Most likely they'll either die of starvation or move South into Nigeria and Cameroon.Replies: @Anonymous
But Mike Hoare is still alive as of last year:
https://christopherothen.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/mike-hoare-in-katanga/
https://www.sofmag.com/the-stanleyville-massacre/
I only mention this because an acquaintance met a person that was the secretary of an organization that was created to honor Dr. Carlson's work at church who stated that the Africans considered white Europeans as different from Americans in that the Europeans were the source of their problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Carlson
Niger?
Let them eat cake, Yellowcake.
Something a @Plutonium Kid might know about…
I believe even the nuttiest Europeans will close their borders before tens of millions of Africans invade, but it will still be too late.Replies: @anonymous, @anon, @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome
East Asians aren’t in trouble at all. They still have their nations and will continue to do so as their population levels climb down from these historic highs. Then, to use a Steve term, when family formation is more affordable they will still have a nation in which to have children.
As for whites the birth rates have nothing to do with demographic change. Their leaders are flooding their nations and whites could not keep up with the rest of the world even if they wanted. Besides, the USA at least began to be flooded with immigrants at the tail end of the enormous WW2 baby boom when half the nation was still under age 26. So the fall off in births is probably related to whites being squeezed out, or as Steve put it in another post, “whites don’t breed well in captivity.” The problem for whites is not the birthrates, but the fact their leaders are bringing in their replacements at a record clip.
I would be interested to know what the white birthrate would have needed to be in the USA for whites to have been able to remain at 88 percent of the population in the face of the largest movement of people in history.
A third possibility is that vast numbers of people in Niger will move to other places, such as Europe."
Assuming they can't feed themselves, more likely than either scenario* is that the parts of the continent that can't feed themselves will be put on a permanent food dole, a kind of cura annonae, by the rest of the world. As in ancient Rome, it will be seen as a permanent fact of life, the distribution of free or subsidized grain by some international authority. The rest of the world will be able to increase yields enough to feed 3 billion more people pretty easily and the agricultural lobby, efficient at getting its way whether in America, Europe, or Japan, will be for it.
*Moving even 100 million Africans to Europe will be a small drop in the bucket if the population reaches 4 billion, you'd need a lot moreReplies: @Ed
Migration of Africans to Europe is mostly a middle class affair. A lot of it is motivated by pure envy of Facebook posts from compatriots in the West. It takes quite a bit of money,by African standards at least, to make it simply to Libya, let alone Europe.
Niger is the poorest of the poor with a GDP per capita of about $350. Millions of Nigeriens will not come to Europe. They simply can’t afford it. Most likely they’ll either die of starvation or move South into Nigeria and Cameroon.
Bangladesh is dirt poor - and also thousands and thousands of miles from Italy.
https://christopherothen.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/mike-hoare-in-katanga/Replies: @Joe Stalin
Any mention of Mike Hoare should remind one of the death of Dr. Paul Carlson (1928-1964), white medico killed while trying to help the lot of Congo Africans.
https://www.sofmag.com/the-stanleyville-massacre/
I only mention this because an acquaintance met a person that was the secretary of an organization that was created to honor Dr. Carlson’s work at church who stated that the Africans considered white Europeans as different from Americans in that the Europeans were the source of their problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Carlson
If Africans can't make a go of it in Africa, maybe there will be a return of European colonialization of Africa.Replies: @Lagertha, @the cruncher
Google, FB, and the world virtue police will not allow that: rt of African colonialialism, anymore, Dave.
The phenomenon can already be seen in the UK - thanks to the immigration surge engendered by the right-wing Thatcherite Blair administration, something like 5 to 10 million new immigrants - very statistically significant for the UK - have entered Britain since 1997. Reliably they are hard-core Labour voters. That's why, in part, Blair invited them in. To secure automatic, permanent, in-built Labour Party rule for Britain. It really is as low and simple as that. The fruits of this policy could be seen in the recent UK General Election. Theresa May 'unexpectedly' failed to outright win the election. This result can entirely be put down to the voters of London. If London had voted as the rest of England, May would have romped home.
There's no need for me to explain London's demographics.
As London goes, so will the nation.
Unfortunately for The Economist - who egged Blair on - Blair's right-wing successors were kicked out of power by Labour Party members who always despised his Thatcherite ways. A real commie was put in to replace him, and lo and behold this commie is a winner.
Thus, with demographic trends baked into the cake, expect a hard left future Britain. Also expect, in the future, the absolute and complete abolition of such vestige immigration controls that do exist in the UK, due to the symbiotic Labour/immigrant relationship.
The third world immigrants will demand it.
Labour will accede as it's in their interests - big salaries and pomposity- the essence of political careers- - depend upon it.Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlie_U, @anon
The Labour party has dissolved the English people and elected a new one. Oh well Enoch Powell warned them fifty years ago. But who wants to be called a “racist”? Much better to just lose your country….
If it comes down to a choice of either the EU going or the Geneva Convention going, it *MUST* be the EU that goes.Replies: @Pericles, @anon
Its the globalist, anti-white, third world dominated, UN convention on “refugees” that must go.
Who in the West thought this was a good idea?
Jews? Globalists? The cheap Labor lobby? Treasonous politicians like the U.K. Labour party that decided to import Muslims and Africans to get votes? Just plain stupidity? I have wondered about this myself a great deal.
Someone who was altruistic, even pathological so, you could make a case for the West's kids and how all this immigration impacts them. They might morph into a devouring set of parents, but there would be a level of concern for the kid's future at some level.
If you try that argument with the narcissistic politics of the West, you get a shoulder shrug. Narcissists lack empathy for whom they should have the most, their children. Their children are there to make them happy, not the other around.
No, Generation Narcissism is Going To Stamp Out Racism Forever (TM), feel bad about poor people in other places, and oh, by the way, make sure there are enough young people paying into their retirement systems because someone told them there aren't enough. What happens after is not their problem, because they're going to be dead.
Interestingly the same mindset don't care about their children's future also produces "Forever young" mentality because it doesn't feel good to think about death. Thus you have Cher complaining about the oldsters in the Democratic party and wishing they would die or move to let somebody new in without even parsing the idea that she is easily as old as everyone she's complaining about and doing the same thing by sucking up the spot light.
I just don't see big shifts happening until the Clintons and assorted similar age politicians are out of power. They can afford 20-30 years of this, assuming there's no currency collapse.Replies: @ANON
All reasonable enough, but demography is going to swamp all of your hopes, plans, and predictions. Yours and everyone else’s.
As for whites the birth rates have nothing to do with demographic change. Their leaders are flooding their nations and whites could not keep up with the rest of the world even if they wanted. Besides, the USA at least began to be flooded with immigrants at the tail end of the enormous WW2 baby boom when half the nation was still under age 26. So the fall off in births is probably related to whites being squeezed out, or as Steve put it in another post, "whites don't breed well in captivity." The problem for whites is not the birthrates, but the fact their leaders are bringing in their replacements at a record clip.
I would be interested to know what the white birthrate would have needed to be in the USA for whites to have been able to remain at 88 percent of the population in the face of the largest movement of people in history.Replies: @ANON
Even if whites ramped up their birthrates to third-world levels, our ‘overseers’ would simply ramp up third-world immigration even further. That’s the problem that needs fixing, not adding more billions to an overcrowded world.
My guess is that ultimately Israel, and Jews living in western countries, will be as screwed as all whites are. But by then it will be too late to do anything about it. Jews seem more focused on things like the holocaust rather then the long term future. They are partly to blame for many of these open-door policies. It is a blind revenge.
Northern Europeans have pathological levels of trust in their governments.
Not too long ago, I was speaking with a young (20-ish) Swede visiting the U.S., and the conversation came around to the demographic transformation of Europe.
He conceded all of the major points to me - yes, there were far too many "refugees" in Sweden, and yes, Swedes were not having nearly enough kids to replace themselves.
I told him that the inevitable result was that Sweden as he knew it would be dead and gone within 20 or 30 years.
He said - and this is a direct quote: "The government will not allow that to happen."
Stan: "The government is the driving force behind the invasion. The government is making it happen."
Swede: "They won't let it happen."
An older woman I know - a 70-something Swedish-born lady who left in her youth, worked as a Pan Am flight attendant, became a U.S. citizen, married an American, and raised a family here - has been making yearly visits to her homeland for decades now. She tells me that her country is almost unrecognizable.
One time, we were discussing this in the presence of a couple of older (white) British tourists. Our tone made it apparent that neither of us was in favor of Third World immigration. They started giving us very nasty looks.
(Admittedly, this was right after I'd had my hair cut very short. Around that time, some asshole stopped me on the street and said, "Nice haircut, Trump voter.")Replies: @AM, @Ed, @anon
I had occasion a while back to spend some time talking with a group of young (age 20-25) Swedes. They were all perfectly nice people but when the conservation turned to immigration, “refugees” etc. it was shockingly clear how utterly clueless and naïve they were. I think Swedes may be the most guileless, naïve and unworldly people in the world.
I believe even the nuttiest Europeans will close their borders before tens of millions of Africans invade, but it will still be too late.Replies: @anonymous, @anon, @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome
East Asians are not having their countries invaded by Africans or Muslims though. Huge difference. I see no ongoing CAMP OF THE SAINTS scenario unfolding in Japan, Korea or China. It hardly matters if Japan has a population of 125 million or 95 million as long as they are all Japanese.
Going back to the time when as the "Congo Free State" it was essentially the personal estate of King Leopold II of Belgium and where great atrocities were perpetrated, then when it became independent amid much international turmoil in 1960 and an ensuing civil war (and the site of the UN Secretary-General's death in a plane crash), and for many years afterwards when it was a favored "client" state of the West under the name of Zaire, it has been been anything but obscure.
The fact that it is one of the most mineral-rich countries in the world obviously has a lot to do with its relative inobscurity.Replies: @Pericles, @bored identity
Obscure, or not – bored identity was told that all America has to worry about is that emerging BRIC alliance.
And now, this CUNT pops up from nowhereland of Sailer’s charts.
O tempora o mores!
I believe even the nuttiest Europeans will close their borders before tens of millions of Africans invade, but it will still be too late.Replies: @anonymous, @anon, @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome
No. They won’t.
Just read The Economist’s editorial pages and weep.
Unfortunately, The Economist has enormous influence over the political class.
Niger is the poorest of the poor with a GDP per capita of about $350. Millions of Nigeriens will not come to Europe. They simply can't afford it. Most likely they'll either die of starvation or move South into Nigeria and Cameroon.Replies: @Anonymous
Look, Bangladeshis impersonating ‘refugees’ are the main nationality making the boat crossing from Libya to Italy.
Bangladesh is dirt poor – and also thousands and thousands of miles from Italy.
Blame the South always. The migrants from the South DID NOT destroy Detroit. Studies show that the first generation of migrants from the South were well-behaved. It was the ones born and raised in Detroit since that are the problem.
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.htmlReplies: @dr kill, @gda
Wow. The read is more than 18 minutes, and I have not yet watched the vid, but that Moldbug fellow really was something, wasn’t he. The rest of youse should read it too.
As somebody I knew who grew up in Detroit in the 50’s and 60’s said, in regards to what motivated them to move from the city, “having tanks roll down your street is a pretty good incentive!” http://www.positivedetroit.net/2016/06/detroit-1967-riot-movie-to-partly-film.html
“Rage against the dying of the light”?
I’m not a troll. That has been clear for a long time.
Just because you cannot refute my arguments doesn’t mean that are not valid.
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.htmlReplies: @dr kill, @gda
Yes that was a superior short post by MM. Thanks for the link. Loved the excerpt from the Time article esp.
The propensity of the Chinese to inter-breed with the Sub-Saharan Africans is, I would submit, far lower than that of the European colonists.
The only hybrid warrior race with those genes would therefore need to be test-tube bred, and the Chinese are unlikely to be so foolish.
Everyone should live up to their rules and everyone should set rules they can live by.
I believe even the nuttiest Europeans will close their borders before tens of millions of Africans invade, but it will still be too late.Replies: @anonymous, @anon, @Anonymous, @Hippopotamusdrome
Nickelback: Look at this graph
If Africans can't make a go of it in Africa, maybe there will be a return of European colonialization of Africa.Replies: @Lagertha, @the cruncher
Weeeeell, there’s a very LARPy (fantasy) skein of threads on /pol/ about strategy to re-take Zimbabwe.
Their idea is that poor countries are poor because they lack 1st world institutions, so they'll establish islands of 1st world institutions in poor countries.
A lot of Northern Europeans retire to Spain and Portugal. There is some nice coastline in West Africa. Conceivably, Germany, for example, could buy or lease a swath of it from an African country, build 1st world quality hospitals, sanitation, etc., and maybe a golf course or two, and Germans could retire there. It would create jobs for African locals and could be a win-win.
There are some mainstream economists and pundits who have called for 1st world cities to be established in Africa and Latin America (with the agreement of the locals). Basically, they’re describing a form of limited recolonization, but they use a different term, one that escapes me at the moment.
Their idea is that poor countries are poor because they lack 1st world institutions, so they’ll establish islands of 1st world institutions in poor countries.
A lot of Northern Europeans retire to Spain and Portugal. There is some nice coastline in West Africa. Conceivably, Germany, for example, could buy or lease a swath of it from an African country, build 1st world quality hospitals, sanitation, etc., and maybe a golf course or two, and Germans could retire there. It would create jobs for African locals and could be a win-win.
Thus they more or less buried the once in a century 'black swan' Nigel Farage UKIP genuine mass movement backlash, which appeared, a couple of years back, to be a great game changer.
One thing for certain: They will never, ever, get another chance to elect political nationalism.Replies: @ANON, @AM, @YetAnotherAnon, @englishmike
UKIP had its best chance of electoral success in the General Election of 2015. But even if it it had had wider support it was disadvantaged by the British electoral system, in which the “first past the post” wins.
The electors do not vote for the government or its leader but for their local member of parliament (MP). In each consituency (geographical voting area) it is the candidate gaining the most votes who is elected MP. It is then the political party with a workable majority of elected MPs which forms a government. The person who is leader of that party is confirmed (by the monarch) as prime minister. (We do not elect a national leader because we have an unelected one).
This system means that a lot of votes can be “wasted” on candidates/parties which fail to gain the required majority. It also means that the relationship between votes cast and party MPs elected looks very unfair. As several newspapers reported after the 2015 General Election:
*[emphasis added in italics]
However, even under a proportional system UKIP would only have been the third largest party in parliament and would have had very limited influence on immigration policy or anything else.
*The unedited version of this report at The Independent has further statistics plus graphs.
Huddled masses are not human to me. I don’t want to know them, or see them die.
But i want them dead. The staged photo of that toddler face down in the sea?
No more than a dead coyote to me. I love dogs… but coyotes are vermin. Same for the masses of the 3rd world. I’ve been there…farther than most.
Java is a large toilet… seeping red soil and feces for 50 miles at sea. If the entire island sank into the sea… with only its’ human inhabitants… I WOULD CHEER.
Ebola is our friend. Zika too… so when people lament the carpet bombing of the
Middle East? I say it’s the best, fastest, most efficient way to rid ourselves of this coming plague of worthless breeders.
Why kill them hand to hand in the suburbs of Dallas or Lyon?
Crispr anyone?
IT’s the new humanity… use it or lose it