Climate alarmists intend to keep poor nations energy-deprived, impoverished, jobless, dying
Paul Driessen
Days before the twenty-sixth Conference of Parties in Glasgow, Scotland. Pope Francis and President Biden met in Rome to discuss “efforts grounded in respect for fundamental human dignity,” including “tackling the climate crisis and caring for the poor.” They should have read Climate Change: The Facts 2017 before they met, especially my chapter critiquing His Holiness’s energy and climate “ethics.”
The key point: Climate changes due to human activities pose no catastrophic threats to people or planet.
Their horse-blindered focus on “manmade climate change” wildly exaggerates the small human influences on climate and weather – and ignores skyrocketing energy and food prices; the sporadic, unpredictable nature of wind and solar power; and that many times more people die in cold weather than in summer heat waves, especially sick and elderly people who can’t afford to heat their homes properly.
Moreover, “caring for the poor” is very different from lifting people out of poverty – helping them use abundant, reliable, affordable, mostly fossil-fuel energy to expand economic opportunities, create jobs, and improve health, living standards and life spans. Indeed, most of the “solutions” presented in Glasgow are the antithesis of respecting human dignity, improving living standards and saving lives.
What’s really being presented in Glasgow is lethal carbon-imperialism. Thousands of glitterati flew in on private jets, joining some 25,000 politicians, climateers, bureaucrats and activist journalists. They’re telling the world, “We don’t do sacrifice. We impose sacrifice on you commoners.”
But even the International Energy Agency recognizes that any “transition” from “dangerous” fossil fuels to “clean, sustainable, renewable” energy will require unprecedented amounts of metals, minerals and other materials. Electric cars need three times more copper than gasoline-powered vehicles. Onshore wind turbines 9 times more materials per megawatt than gas-fired co-generating plants, including copper, iron, lithium, cobalt, rare earths and concrete; offshore turbines need 14 times more materials. That means far more mining, processing, manufacturing, waste disposal and habitat destruction than ever in history.
But climate fanatics hobnobbing in Glasgow, blocking DC roadways, storming federal buildings or planning to sabotage pipelines are not about to allow more mining, processing or manufacturing in the United States, Europe or most other modern countries. They’ve made even major copper-cobalt-nickel deposits (essential Green New Deal materials) in Alaska and Minnesota off limits.
They demand that these activities take place somewhere else – mostly in China or via Chinese-owned operations in Africa, Asia and Latin America … often with child and slave labor … under minimal to nonexistent pollution, workplace safety, fair wage, fair trade, mined land reclamation, and other laws, ethical standards and human dignity guidelines. It’s also a path to environmental and economic disaster.
Concerns about “responsibly sourced” materials, components and products apply to T-shirts, sneakers and coffee – not to wind turbines, solar panels, backup batteries and electric vehicles for “saving the world.”
Let Boston Celtics center Enes Kanter protest Uighur rape, forced labor and sterilization, torture, indoctrination and genocide on his shoes and in his Twitter videos. Nike, the NBA and climate-obsessed COP-26 fear-mongers will happily do business with Xi Jinping on “clean, green, renewable, sustainable” energy. That all this mining and manufacturing somewhere else will also involve prodigious amounts of gasoline, diesel, natural gas and coal – and greenhouse gases – is likewise irrelevant to COP-26ers.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for President Biden, Pope Francis or Climate Envoy John Kerry to speak out about any of these climate and human rights atrocities.
Just as evil, Western banks will no longer finance fossil fuel, nuclear or even hydroelectric power. In fact, the UN’s Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero recently announced that financial groups with assets of $130 trillion have committed to forcing companies to cut emissions, by blocking financing for fossil fuel projects, channeling trillions of dollars to “renewable” technologies, and imposing “pathways” and demands on corporations and financial institutions to “restructure themselves.”
“We now have the essential plumbing in place to move climate change from the fringes to the forefront of finance, so that every financial decision takes climate change into account,” an alliance leader said – “transforming the global financial system in the process.”
The US Securities and Exchange Commission plans to announce rules for “carbon disclosure” – but none for disclosing information about child and slave labor, habitat destruction and the slaughter of birds, bats and other wildlife so intimately associated with Green New Deal mining and wind and solar installations.
Even more outrageous, the Biden Administration’s Labor Department has proposed a rule that would explicitly direct your retirement plan administrators and asset managers to “consider” progressive environmental, social and governance (ESG) ideologies and factors every time they choose investments. Employees would be enrolled in woke ESG funds as a default, unless they select a different option.
That means your 401(k) retirement funds could be channeled into leftist causes, all with the connivance of the Left’s Wall Street, corporate and political allies – and to the enduring detriment of the world’s poor.
Under these and other COP-26 agendas and edicts, US, EU, Canadian and Australian living standards would go down a few notches, to levels the Left deems “more fair and equitable” for homes, travel and diets. Poor developing countries would be restricted to improving their people’s living standards to levels that sprawling wind and solar installations could support. No fossil or nuclear power for them.
Poor nations may improve their crop yields only through agro-ecology. There will be no financing for tractors, pesticides, modern fertilizers and large-scale farming, or anything possibly involving methane.
These policies are eco-imperialistic, lethal, racist and white supremacist. But the COP-26 crowd is unlikely to utter a word of concern, much less opposition; nor will it mention the energy deprivation, joblessness, nineteenth-century living standards, rampant disease, primitive stoop-labor agriculture, and premature death that their policies perpetuate.
To help drive this agenda, Big Media and Big Tech will suppress any questions and dissension – and debunk, defund, deplatform, censor and cancel anyone who tries to debate such “climate denial.”
It’s no wonder the Group of 77 poor countries has issued an ultimatum. They will agree to Paris-Glasgow climate/energy pledges only if rich countries give them at least $750 billion per year in reparation, compensation, mitigation and adaptation assistance. African nations and the coalition of Like-Minded Developing Countries have presented an even bigger figure at Glasgow: $1.3 trillion annually! Moreover, they want the money as grants, not loans. Who can blame them?
“Africa can’t sacrifice its future prosperity for Western climate goals. Africans have a right to use reliable, cheap, energy,” in conjunction with renewables, says Uganda President Yoweri Museveni. Restricting Africa to solar and wind power would impose poverty and death. Ditto for other regions.
The $750-billion number was reportedly met with silence by John Kerry. French President Emmanuel Macron said, “We should be focused on delivering the $100-billion [per year that rich countries already promised at COP-21 in Paris], before we start talking about huge numbers.” ($100-billion isn’t huge?)
They didn’t mention the $1.3-trillion demand. Nor did anyone question how these incredible sums are going to come from now-rich nations that are also expected to hamstring their energy output and use, economies, jobs, living standards and revenues – and still come up with trillions of dollars in new aid.
Maybe that’s why they plan to use your 401(k) funds and force every bank and financial institution to kowtow to their climate demands. It’s time for African, Asian and other developing nations to chart their own destinies, finance their own energy – and tell all these COP-26 attendees “Let’s go, Brandon!”
Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of books and articles on energy, environment, climate and human rights issues.
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“ignores skyrocketing energy and food prices; “
I think the contrary is the case. You will own nothing and you ‘will’ be happy
the state will provide you with everything you need.
Of course the state will be the sole arbiter of what you need.
Socialism (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.‘The Russian Revolution itself was but one episode in the transition from capitalism to socialism.’
Back in the 1970s a friend said to me that the socialists wouldn’t be happy until everyone lived in a state-owned house and worked for the government..
A side joke was the socialist official who told a worker that “when we have our freedom, everyone will drive Rolls-Royces and smoke cigars” to which the underling replies “but I can’t drive and I don’t smoke”.
The official’s final comment was that ” when you have your freedom you will do what you’re jolly well told! “
skyrocketing fossil fuel prices. and didn’t I read here ‘India produces more food than ever’ recently?
I don’t know griff, did you?
Wow! Is this a first? Griff HAS learnt something by coming here?
There’s knowledge, then there’s wisdom.
Knowledge is facts.
Wisdom is knowing how to use those facts.
griff has always been able to find facts and regurgitate them on command.
Wisdom, unfortunately, will always be beyond his abilities.
griff, the reason fossil fuel prices are rising is because there is not enough of it being produced to satisfy demand. This has been explained to you numerous times but you seem to have difficulty in understanding.
Maybe you’ll start to understand when you think you’ve managed to save enough to buy your first EV and you find the price also has rocketed because demand is so high and has outstripped the capacity to bring all the necessary mining operations online.
Religions tend to have irrational tendencies.
They are not irrational, they are ‘climate’ jihadists.
Having mutually conflicting goals is either stupidity or irrationality, and the green blob is a stinking pile of mutually impossible goals.
…mutually conflicting goals is…
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double think
With empathetic virtue and secular “benefits”. Irrational, perhaps. Not stupid. Smart with a self-serving interest. What else do these “smart” people sacrifice for their religious order? They think that they are right. The sincerely do. Many disagree in part or whole. We are all a constellation of special, peculiar, and principled outlooks. Most of us will, within reason, reconcile when there are discrepancies in logic and individuals.
“Reason” has no bearing on the actions of the Biden administration. They don’t even comprehend the potential side effects of their actions.
Religion as in behavioral protocol. Everyone has a religion. Judge a religious (i.e. moral, ethical, legal) philsophy by its principles, not principals. Faith (i.e. logical domain of “trust”), traditions, etc. are separable.
As shown by the irrational, faith based climate skepticism ‘religion’.
at least I have science based on data and observation to provide me with the reasons to accept climate science’s observations on climate.
Really? Where?
You say that, Griff mate, when when asked you don’t or can’t provide links to verify your claims
I suppose griff is like nyocli, when challenged on one of his claims, he replied that since everybody he knew agreed with him, his claims needed no evidence.
Obviously doesn’t know many people then
That or he/she should get out more
Once again, griff shows his absolute faith in his belief that if anything is different from last year, it’s proof that CO2 is going to kill us. Regardless of how many times those things have occurred in the past.
“As shown by the irrational, faith based climate skepticism ‘religion’.”
What’s irrational about asking someone to prove their claims?
That’s all skeptics do. And when no proof is provided, skeptics point that out. Totally rational. No religion required.
Read the book and deprogram yourself
This book explains why FF are the only viable energy source.
The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=95AC3FC1E1D3768A2FF58A9556284B4E
“The cost of lithium battery cells is rising for the first time after years of decline, with strained lithium supplies adding to rising prices of other cell materials.
Chinese battery producers are said to be writing to customers looking to renegotiate contracts, including moving away from fixed pricing structures.
Consumer group Which? in August found that a Mini EV costs £26,000 while the petrol alternative costs £16,605. The cost of running the Mini EV over three years was £1,827 compared to £4,418 for the Mini One – a £2,591 difference, taking into account tax breaks and lower fuel and servicing costs for the electric car.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/11/07/electric-cars-get-expensive-battery-costs-soar/
This info has been percolating on quite a few websites, including automotive ones.
The auto enthusiasts it was always obvious that electric cars were way overpriced even with their subsidies. In actual use electric cars never lived up to their billing and most fell way beyond expectations.
I’ve got a friend show bought a Chevy Bolt, using the government subsidy and other subsidies from the state. It came down to that it was primarily useful for commuting to work, 40 miles or so, and other further jaunts 80-90 miles away.
The car got charge every day it was used. It carried 2 adults in relative comfort and two passengers cooped up in the back seat.
Overall he was satisfied with all the help from people on this website and others. They made it ALMOST cheap.
He positively said it was not worth using for long trips because(he is an Engineering Project Director). He laughed at using it for any trips outside it’s fresh charge range.
Real range is the key, not the misleading range and recharge times so often quoted.
For people who drive in cities and suburbs EV, apart from the premium price when compared to an equivalent ICEV model, is probably satisfactory however as the speed rises to highway legal limits, hills are encountered, headwinds (and depending on number of people on board and weight of luggage), air conditioning and other accessories on or off, etc., variable range factors, recharging time delays and even locating a recharge station becomes unnecessarily inconvenient and stressful.
Until EV prices are competitive size to size of vehicle with ICEV and with range and recharging comparable with ICEV in my opinion EV will remain in a niche market.
There are a lot of idiots in the niche.
Well here in the UK most car journeys are, if memory serves me, around 29 miles. On the average UK annual mileage you are talking spending £5 to charge up once a week.
Yes that is often the response from EV fanatics, but then please explain why ICEV manufacturers don’t save on production costs with smaller fuel tanks, why provide extra range the market, according to EV fanatics, in the majority don’t need?
And why are EV prices so much higher than ICEV, the short range ICEV alternative could be sold for higher prices if EV fanatics are right.
But wait until electricity cost sky rockets when it’s all “clean and green”. And, when you have frequent outages.
It is already @ur momisugly 50 % more expensive to recharge an EV at a commercial charging station than to refill a gas tank. And that’s not counting the half hour you have to wait for the charge to be complete, and the extra distance you have to drive to find that charging station.
How much longer before the government starts taxing electricity to pay for the roads you use? Right now you are riding arounds on roads that other people paid for.
The UK Government receives about £30 billion a year from fuel duty and road tax. At present EVs are exempt from paying these as an encouragement to buy. Obviously this income declines the more EVs there are and the fewer ICE cars there are. This process cannot continue for long.
Despite the 8-year battery warranty most offer on EV battery capacity deterioration over time must become a trade-in value depreciation factor as well as being inconvenient to lose range.
So batteries are a fuel cost.
The Massachusett’s net zero bill forbids the selling of any ICEV as of 2035. I keep asking people here- if you buy a car in another state, can you register it here- so far, no answers.
About the only thing socialists are good at, is driving economic activity out of their state/country.
Has he done any of these longer trips when it was either really hot, or really cold?
I’d also love to know what happens as that battery ages and his range begins to shrink dramatically even in good weather.
Not when it’s Other People’s Money. The socialist’s favourite payment method!
Only payment method.
As former UK PM Margaret Thatcher observed, socialists use other people’s money until it runs out and then they borrow to spend more.
I have to run my pool heater for longer each year as it’s getting colder. Electricity prices are also going up because of unreliables. Can I have some compensation? A million should do it, a mere bagatelle…
Of course the solution would be;
a) Don’t replace unreliable energy installations, so stop subsidising them.
b) Build new nuclear power stations.
c) Supplement with modular nuclear generators
d) Build thorium-molten salts reactors
But coal and gas fired power stations remain the most cost effective and reliable generators in between times.
When a to d above is well underway convert coal into transport liquid fuel and also use compressed natural gas and liquid petroleum gas.
It’s coming…
Headline: “Small scale nuclear to get green light this week“From BBC
https://www.nucnet.org/news/us-and-romania-will-announce-plans-to-collaborate-on-nuscale-plant-11-2-2021
NuScale, apparently already contracting with countries outside the US for SMR. Apparently the OBiden crew is supporting Nuclear. I have heard no MSM reporting of such.
“Africa can’t sacrifice its future prosperity for Western climate goals. Africans have a right to use reliable, cheap, energy,” in conjunction with renewables, says Uganda President Yoweri Museveni.”
Wow. What a star. There is still hope for humanity, but currently, it’s not going to come from Western nations.
Sorry. There is no hope for humans. It will be over soon.
OK Yoweri Museveni:
Can the enquiring mind ask what Uganda is going to contribute to the world?
Or Africa in fact ##
A quick search will tell anyone that the only significant thing to come out of Uganda is “Gems and Precious metals”
Surely shirley you don’t want to increase the mining (even if Greta allows you) and export of those – to do so would crash their price/value and worth
What happens when they run out?
Sorry Mr Musonevei, as ‘teacher’ would say: “Must try harder”
You are supposed to be a ‘leader’ – why not try doing some actual leading instead of being a sad, begging and mendacious hobo
## Africa = The Place where us humans evolved. We cut/burned all the trees, killed and ate all the animals we could catch and left only the ones that could, would and did catch & eat us.
We created a desert wasteland and selectively filled it with horrible animals
We completely trashed the place and left
Museveni: If you really wanted to ‘do something for The World and The Climate‘, you’d realise that and be venturing plans for undoing the damage we did over the last 100 thousand years.
The acquisition of and spending thereof Free Western Money would only make worse.
They are blaming climate change for heatwaves which are discretely solar driven and cause climate change. And the global warming due to weaker solar wind states driving warmer ocean phases since 1995 and causing a decline in low cloud cover, they state is unequivocally due to rising CO2 forcing. It’s all antiscience of the very highest grade.
Climate change is also blamed for bushfires in Australia and elsewhere but the history of bushfires spans tens of thousands of years, in Australia the last major climate change gradually took place around 130,000 years ago when hotter and drier weather conditions forced rainforests to retreat and today form only 3 per cent of forest area, they were replaced by eucalypts that tolerate hot and dry conditions, but also tolerate bushfires apart from very hot wildfires resulting from poor land management by clearing fire hazard materials.
australia now sees, for the first time since settlement, bushfires in actual rain forest.
the California ‘fire season’ is now 75 days longer.
Parts of europe with the world’s most efficient forest management now see, for the first time, devastating fires…
That is so misleading, did you note that rainforest in Australia is now only around 3 per cent of forest areas?
Did you know that The Australian Aborigines who are believed to have migrated here 60-65,000 years ago developed their “seasonal burning tradition” over time: burning in a patchwork in rotation every few years each patch to keep bushfire fuel low and therefore cooler and less destructive fires resulting. Their seasonal burning has been re-introduced by Park Rangers and mainly in WA and the NT.
Research the history of bushfires since white settlement beginning January, 1788 and learn about the massive bushfires in the past, far worse than experienced in more recent times.
To try and blame climate change for bushfires is a display of ignorance, like city cafe chatter by people who have no experience and knowledge.
California fire season now longer, Griff? Must be because the arsonists are lighting them earlier…
plus that the Greens won’t allow the removal of the underlying dead and dry tinder that fuels the fires, be they started by lightening strikes, power lines, or arsonists.
A big problem in Australia where far too often council permits for removal of fire hazard materials and/or back burning are reluctantly issued due to Green influence.
A couple of years ago a volunteer bushfire fighter told me about a recent bushfire event where a previous event took place only three years earlier, the regrowth warranted back burning but no permit was issued on the basis of the earlier bushfire, according to council lack of common sense, had removed the fire risk. So the Rural Bushfire Service application was rejected.
What’s sad, is that griff actually believes that this is the first time fires have occurred in those areas.
Hey Griffie, what difference does it make when we now know all the warming we’ve seen has been natural?
Data from the NASA CERES project show that the warming we have seen was due to a reduction in clouds allowing more solar energy to reach the surface. The greenhouse gas theory now appears to be completely wrong.
“The TOA net flux was +0.75 W/m2 in 2020. The data shown in Figure 1, Figure 2 and Figure 3 suggest that the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021
This is actual data. Measured data, not theory. There is no honest way to deny this science. All of the warming over the past 20 years was natural.
“75 days longer” than when?
How long was the “fire season” in 1700? 1600? 1100?
AUSTRALIA has had eight mega-droughts over the last 1000 years. The biggest was a 39-year drought between 1174 and 1212 AD during a century of aridity (1102-1212 AD) during the global Medieval warming.
There was a 23-year mega-drought from 1500-1522 AD. It was continent-wide. Tree ring studies in Western Australia covering the period from 1350 AD show many 30-year droughts during the Little Ice Age between 1300 and 1850 AD.PC
– Professor Ian Plimer
Given that solar output has been measurably at a low level for a decade, would you care to give the reasons as to why the sun drove so many N hemisphere heatwaves in summer 2021?
I don’t know the reasons, griff, please explain.
1) I suppose the cold is hiding in the deep oceans.
2) It is a complete lie that the total number of so called heat waves is larger than normal.
Try to keep up with the science, Griffie.
“the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021”
It’s not the sun itself but a reduction in clouds caused by natural ocean cycles. Why do you deny science?
At least the Globalists pushing the Climate Lie have told us who they are….the Oligarch Club of International Bankers…and their lackeys in our Governments and The Lying Press.
Their arrogance will waste unimaginable amounts of resources…and will likely kill 10-100 times more innocents than the Fictitious Climate Crisis ever would have were it real…while back here in reality we live in the mildest climate since the Medieval Warm Period.
Our Constitution and other Western Republics cannot protect us from these Elitist Criminals…because they control the Western Propaganda Press Apparatus and the unelected administrative states (the Deep State) in all the Western Countries, and control most of the Heads of State.
They cannot persuade us with the truth, so they will bludgeon and lie and steal elections.
Paranoid conspiracy theory.
Says griff, the dim one.
That’s funny, coming from griff.
I wondered why griff was providing the perfect answer to his many fact free comments.
Press Version:
“President Biden ad Pope Francis meet in Rome….”
Factual Version:
“Two Commie, child molesting dimwits meet in Rome…”
“It’s no wonder the Group of 77 poor countries has issued an ultimatum. They will agree to Paris-Glasgow climate/energy pledges only if rich countries give them at least $750 billion per year in reparation, compensation, mitigation and adaptation assistance. African nations and the coalition of Like-Minded Developing Countries have presented an even bigger figure at Glasgow: $1.3 trillion annually! Moreover, they want the money as grants, not loans.”
*****
Money, money money. Gimme gimme gimme.
No wonder it’s religious heresy and thought-crime to expose the serious scientific problems with the climate scare narrative.
And of course it’s not just the poor countries demanding that money. It’s also the NGOs, Universities, EV companies, and finally the UN itself wants a global tax to be given to it.
What’s Africa’s problem? These same people keep telling us that “green energy” is actually cheaper than fossil fuels. These poor countries should be paying us for forcing cheap renewables on them.
Yeah, the Africans ought to be grateful the Overlords have deigned to allow them to use inexpensive windmills and solar panels.
They are Green, not green, and perhaps a little green, with green [secular] “benefits”.
Can they abort… rape the Earth, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her inconvenient life, and have her, too?
We know the answer to the former, and latter questions. But, each of us will reach thresholds, where the hearts beat ever louder, and the cognitive dissonance cannot be calmed through semantic games, ethical frame of reference, and scientific legerdemain.
correction: tell-tale hearts beat ever louder
Wow. A powerful essay. Paul Driessen lays it out there and takes no prisoners. The fake Pope, the traitor President, the preening kleptocracy, the glittering fascists, the fawning mediots, the entire 3-ring circus freak show of warmunists are eviscerated, not merely for hypocrisy or junk science, but for high crimes against humanity.
Lethal carbon imperialism. Tell ’em, Paul. 42^42 stars.
Australian Financial Review today:
That would be typical of news media reporting, the very idea that the great and the good of the world are meeting in Glasgow to determine the global average temperature in a century is beyond preposterous yet the proceedings are reported solemnly without a hint of mockery.
This morning’s news on the BBC was complaining that there were more delegates ‘associated ‘ with fossil fuel interests than any single country.
500 out of a total attendance of 19,000, (with Brazil alone sending 479 delegates.)
One might as well complain about the total numbers attending who are looking for some free hand-outs from the richer nations whose economies they are on the road to destroying.
I suppose one way to help the less developed nations would be to provide the necessary windmills and solar panels instead of cash. This might at least reduce the risk of leakage of cash funds into property and Swiss Bank accounts.
The only problem is that the mechanical skills to operate them are a must-have, otherwise the equipment would go the same way as with many aid projects in the past where modern equipment lies rustling in the backyard.
I’m quite doubtful that less developed nations possess sufficient trained mechanics to keep a fleet of wind turbines in operation.
And without coal/gas based generation as back up, there would be no way to prevent grid collapse as the unreliables wax and wane.
Given the Biden administration’s consideration of unilaterally forcing the closure of Enbridge’s Line 5 pipeline, one might conclude they are determined to throw the US into a major financial recession, via further skyrocketing energy prices. Such a recession would be reflected by similar economic disaster in other Western nations. Who would benefit? Obviously, the CCP; but of course, Joe Biden has not had any previous financial entanglements with those criminals.
The key point: Climate changes due to human activities pose no catastrophic threats to people or planet.
No, the key point is that human induced climate change is already posing a threat to human activities, climate change is proceeding rapidly and even at the lowest estimates will pose catastrophic threats in the near future.
This year has already seen a series of exceptional and catastrophic climate impacts, from British Columbia, Germany, china and multiple other places.
Well, I don’t know about the others, but the German meteorologists, backed up by records going back hundreds of years, state quite categorically that the recent floods were not caused by climate change and were not exceptional.
And maybe he could research the UK situation, flooding caused by a lack of maintenance of canals and drains, apparently Greens don’t believe in interfering in “nature”.
He’s been told that many times. Makes no difference. griff will repeat what he’s told to believe until he’s told to believe something else.
How dare those scientists use actual data. Don’t they know that only climate models are qualified to make such judgements?
Utter BS, griff and you know it.
“human induced climate change is already posing a threat to human activities, climate change is proceeding rapidly and even at the lowest estimates will pose catastrophic threats in the near future.”
The climate is, undoubtedly, because climates always do. (BTW Having lived in the Gulf, where the weather was, for long periods of time, the same every day, it was bloody boring.) However, I see no sign that it is changing, except for the better. I have no way telling what it will do in the future, and neither do you!
The lowest estimates are for a future temperature rise of 0C.
What griff means is that the lowest estimates from the climate models indicates several degrees of warming.
Of course the fact that over the last 50 years, those same models have predicted between 3 and 5 times as much warming than actually occurred is conveniently swept under the rug. (Along with the reputation of most climate “scientists”.)
Even if this lowest estimate actually occurs, that will still not get the planet up to the temperatures that were enjoyed during the recent Holocene Optimum.
As to those alleged climate impacts. All of them were smaller than events that occurred in the past, long before CO2 was a gleam in the most fanatical of climate warriors.
Sorry Griff, the science is telling us there is no “human induced climate change“.
” the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021
Why do you keep making claims that science has already found to by untrue?
No, the key point Driessen makes, and he’s absolutely correct, is that climate catastrophists are a far worse threat to humanity than the weather. The warmunists are death-dealing monsters who lust for power and stolen wealth at the expense and suffering of the human race, especially the poor and downtrodden.
The world faces no greater evil today than the satanic cult of climate fascists.
Hey griff, what has the climate changed FROM that you want so badly to go back TO? Can you define your target at all?
You really don’t care about facts or science. You just want to promote the fear for reasons that are obscure to the rest of us. None of what you stated is supported by objective evidence – it is only found in climate models that fail almost every prediction and have never been validated. I teach about models and scientific process and I can tell you either don’t understand or are willfully ignorant.
Griff
I watched a show about Paris last night, part was on historical flooding the worst of which was 1910, then several in the late 1800’s.
The most recent floods have been mild.
That too then is human induced?
UN Climate Finance czar Marc Carney has set this up : Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero
https://www.gfanzero.com/
GFANZ has all the western big banks signed up, no Asian banks though, to enforce ESG. Already no credit for any fossil fuel related projects. This is a stranglehold.
The ghouls at FLOP26 have already got Gangrene, and demand all our green.
See ¨Gangrene Sets in at COP26 Ghoul Gathering¨
For a long time now publicly listed companies including banks have been lobbied by “shareholders” who are in the minority but vocal minority and who demand that directors and executives worship at the Church of Climate Change or suffer losses and embarrassment.
The very recent good news in Australia is that the CBA (was Commonwealth Bank of Australia) met with very angry shareholders at an AGM and were forced to reverse woke decisions, and warned to act in the best interests of all shareholders.
Your comment about Asian Banks reminded me of this, and indicates that they, the Asian Banks, are well aware of the need for fossil fuel mining and supplies to secure the growing economic prosperity of developing nations and for developed nations economic prosperity to continue.
Of course people who take notice of politics know that admissions have been made by UN Officials and fellow travellers that the climate change (hoax) agenda is really about destroying the “capitalist system”, free enterprise and free markets, and redistribution of wealth, control and management as Marxism recommends. Christiana Figureres made this point at a meeting in October 2015 just before the UN IPCC Paris Conference at the end of 2015.
How then are they going to kick start all the huge mining operations required to enable the massive growth in EVs that they also say is absolutely necessary?
For example. To switch just the UK’s 31m ICE vehicles to BEVs would require
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From: ‘ Mining our green future’ by Prof Richard Herrington, Head of Earth Sciences, The Natural History Museum’ UK,
Nature Reviews: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41578-021-00325-9
I suspect Carney and the GFANZ can’t see beyond the £ and $ signs.
It is not a sin to be rich, or to become rich through personal work, skills, talent.
It is sordid to be rich and, because they have financial means, to act like that.
… and, by the way, it is sordid the adulation served to them by msm. Think a bit and try to be rational: Leonardo DiCaprio is not a great actor, he is rather median or below that. Do you think he is at the level of Spencer Tracy? Henry Fonda? Dustin Hoffman?…
If you wanted to address wealth disparity, either locally or globally, there isn’t a dumber way in existence to do that than what the COP26 Climate Liars with their anti-carbon agenda are doing, and attempting to do. It is beyond insanity. It is both evil and criminal.
Paul is still being too kind to the climate scammers. The latest data shows that there is NO, I repeat, no evidence for any greenhouse warming.
“The TOA net flux was +0.75 W/m2 in 2020. The data shown in Figure 1, Figure 2 and Figure 3 suggest that the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021
This is actual data. Measured data by CERES satellites, not theory. There is no honest way to deny this science. All of the warming over the past 20 years was natural.