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meika loofs samorzewski's avatar

"the possibility of historical objectivity"

… in my lifetime? or in that of the universe?

Relates to arguments about dates, dating and stratigraphy but in the inverse. It requires us to look forward, this 'possibility' —while remaining in suspension about it, while actively engaged in the work (called bracketing I hear). Looking forward is thus part of an objectivity aligned methodology (or objectivity adjacent if not as actually happened) . But looking forward is not often what history is a part of, and we have no records from the future, but our view of it informs our methods and perspectives. Possibly. Relatively speaking?

We seem to repeat the same arguments through the generations, and what changes is their detail, their fashion, their seasonality, and I wonder if that relativity provides an objective phenomena for which we have no records (there might be but we have no taphonomical method that releases such into our notice.)

on a different example, We might eventually develop the technology to date all materials that survive accurately, and thus better LLM our data, but eventually in heading towards more objectivity we have to deal with our partiality (as well as how they change relatively through time), and improving them until they are as objective as far as our phenomenalogical methods allow. How do we include the future into history?

That would meld relativist and not together. Possibly more chimera than synthesis.

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meika loofs samorzewski's avatar

". What exactly Ranke meant by this is still disputed today, but it was taken over as a slogan by many historians. Beard presents himself as the arch anti-Rankean. This is strange, because Ranke is associated with a particular formulation of historicism, and many have argued that historicism is a form of relativism. Beard is called a relativist, but he unambiguously rejects a canonical formulation of historicism, which is at the same time a canonical form of historical relativism. "

jeebus

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