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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 20, 2011

Template:Poster fur

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The result of the discussion was No Action - No longer within scope of RfD as it has been converted into a template. However, there is consensus against deletion should this become a redirect again. --Taelus (talk) 20:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

• Template:Poster fur → Template:Non-free use rationale poster (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

All Filespace Transclusions migrated to use 'standardised' template name. This redirect no longer serves a useful purpose, as the 'standardised' name should be used in preference. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Keep That it isn't used in the file namespace any more isn't a valid rational for deletion. Its a valid redirect, which shouldn't deleted. Sir Armbrust ^{Talk to me} _Contribs 23:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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high schools in New Brunswick School District 16

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The result of the discussion was Delete to encourage article creation. --Taelus (talk) 20:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

• Bonar Law Memorial School → New Brunswick School District 16 (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 
• North & South Esk Regional High School → New Brunswick School District 16 (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Delete Redirected is the wikilink of a couple of high schools, to the school district where they are located. High schools pass WP:Notability - these wikilinks should be 'open' (red for now) and not redirected Mayumashu (talk) 16:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Delete both - agree that WP:REDLINK applies. No useful history and nothing helpful at the target. We should encourage the creation of articles. Bridgeplayer (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Newsletter/August 2011

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted per WP:CSD#G7 (only significant author requests deletion). Thryduulf (talk) 10:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Newsletter/August 2011 → Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Newsletter/September 2011 (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Unnecessary redirect. Housekeeping please delete Kumioko (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Delete as per Kumioko. Unnecessary redirect.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
• G7 per Kumioko's request. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 00:58, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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WKQX

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The result of the discussion was Keep per consensus. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 05:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• WKQX → WWWN (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Another user tried to list this at AFD with this rationale: These call letters have been reassigned to a 95.9 in Watseka, Illinois. As such, this article should be deleted - not kept as a redirect. The proper destination for this article title would be an article about the licensed station currently using the call letters. The fact that deletion would create a bunch of redlinks is irrelevant. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 03:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

As a matter of record, I was the original nominator. My thanks to TPH for helping it land in the proper place. :) Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 03:19, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Keep - The nominator's argument is that it is reserved for a currently non-notable entity and therefore can't/shouldn't be used for the "new" and notable station. Despite arguments that the call letters have been reassigned, the available sources seem to indicate that this was done as an expedient measure to protect the callsign from being used by others in the Chicago area. The buyer who bought the station and call letter assignment merely swapped the letters with a 'dark' station they also own. There's no evidence at this time that the 'new' station will begin broadcasting using these letters, but if/when they do, we can create this article in its own right. It seems to me deleting this redirect would be ignoring the General Notability Guideline and using our Crystal Ball to see the future.

The WWWN-FM call letters were most recently associated with a small Watseka, IL radio station that isn't even operating currently. That little station just happens to be owned by Radioactive LLC. Radioactive LLC happens to be wholly owned by Randy Michaels. Randy Michaels also just so happens to be the CEO of Merlin Media LLC, who is the new operator of 101.1 FM in Chicago. At the start of this year, the Watseka radio station used the call letters of WMLF-FM, but Radioactive LLC requested they be changed to WWWN-FM last month, in anticipation of the WKQX-FM take over. The WKQX-FM call letters now belong to the small, dark station in Watseka.

http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/1792-1011-fm-changes-call-letters-to-wwwn-fm

http://www.radio-info.com/news/new-fcc-call-signs-list-shows-recent-changes-including-wkqx-going-to-watsek

-- Avanu (talk) 03:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Keep with possible modification: Hey, parallel discussions! Anyway, this page should at worst be a disambiguation page; one item with the current redirect target and one with the new radio channel at Watseka. At best, I see no reason why it could not be a stub with a hat note to WWWN. --Izno (talk) 03:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Keep unless the new station can be shown to be notable, in which case make it an article with a hatnote. --GRuban (talk) 03:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. If an article is written about the other station, then this can be revisited. But at present, there is only one target article in Wikipedia with information pertaining to these call letters. older ≠ wiser 03:16, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
• Comment I would support making WKQX a disambiguation. A redirect to WWWN, however, I can not and will not support. Typically, any properly licensed station is assumed to be notable, under GNG. If I recall, this type of situation has been discussed previously at Wikiproject Radio Stations. Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 03:18, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

  If you can write an article about the new WKQX that shows it meets the GNG - significant coverage in independent reliable sources - great, more power to you, we will make it a disambiguation or a hatnote or whatever. But I don't think we can assume you can. Will reliable sources really provide significant coverage to a radio station that doesn't broadcast anything? I personally doubt it. But I'm not a radio station expert, so please, prove me wrong. --GRuban (talk) 03:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

  Also, after doing a lookup on the FCC site of the little Watseka station ( http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/corrp_list.pl?Facility_id=164237 ), it seems they keep re-filing to leave the station inactive (since at least 2008). I can't find anything on WMLF, which is what its call letters were right before the switchover/takeover of the Chicago station. Additionally, I found a discussion of people curious about buying the station, but saying the owner was intentionally just doing the minimum to hold onto the current status (at http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=120249.0 ). -- Avanu (talk) 03:57, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Keep as per Avanu and oldernotequalswiser.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 03:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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