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Panzer Tracts and {cite book}

Hi, Thanks for sorting out the {{cite book}} issue at Panzer I at the Help Desk.

What is your thinking about the pagination scheme of the dreaded Panzer Tracts series? As far as I can tell, Jentz & Doyle use ordinary hyphen-minus on the front covers, e.g. Panzer Tracts 3-1, and in page numberings, e.g. 3-1-17. {{sfn|Jentz|Doyle|2006a|p=3-1-17}}^[1]

A slightly simpler way could be to leave out the volume number and just use the page number: {{sfn|Jentz|Doyle|2006a|p=17}} ^[2]

I know that cite book automatically formats normal page ranges with an en-dash,^[3] which I normally try to insert anyway, but |pp=3-1-17–3-1-20^[4] is very unwieldy. With too many hyphens I think it just gives up.^[5]

Perhaps |pp=3-1-17–20 ^[6], or |pp=3-1-17 to 20^[7] is easier to comprehend at a glance, although not exactly approved.

Am I interpreting the behaviour of the template correctly? Do you have any specific preferences? Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 08:04, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, p. 3-1-17.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, p. 17.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 17–20.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17–3-1-20.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17-3-1-20.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17–20.
^ Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17 to 20.

Jentz, Thomas L.; Doyle, H. L. (2006a). Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. A, B, C & D. Panzer Tracts 3-1. Boyds, MD: Panzer Tracts. ISBN 9780977164349.

MOS:RANGE applies so use a spaced en dash: {{harvnb|Jentz|Doyle|2006a|pp=3-1-17 – 3-1-20}} → Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17 – 3-1-20.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted, thanks very much. Best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a3-1-17-1] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, p. 3-1-17.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a17-2] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, p. 17.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a17–20-3] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 17–20.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a3-1-17–3-1-20-4] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17–3-1-20.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a3-1-17-3-1-20-5] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17-3-1-20.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a3-1-17–20-6] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17–20.

[FOOTNOTEJentzDoyle2006a3-1-17_to_20-7] Jentz & Doyle 2006a, pp. 3-1-17 to 20.

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