User talk:Rane43

Gasconade County R-I School District

Hey,

You will probably need a few more references for Gasconade County R-I School District and I would work on making some hyperlinks inside. It's likely they will try to delete it otherwise.

Good luck.

PS - Accounting sounds like the better career path. KatoKungLee (talk) 21:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I will work on that. I think it is too. I would definitely make more money lol. Rane43 (talk) 23:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Gasconade County R-I School District moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Gasconade County R-I School District, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three, to be safe. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.(?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:30, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Gasconade County R-I School District

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Blocked for sockpuppetry

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rane43. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  firefly ( t · c ) 16:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry 2

Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rane43. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

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firefly ( t · c ) 16:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

{{unblock | Hello. I am really unsure of what to do to get my account unblocked. I don't know how to do any of this technical stuff. Again, I am not sure how I got mentioned for this sockpuppetry thing, but may I please be unblocked? This just came out of no where. I have shown no wrongdoings on this account and I'm not even sure what those three other accounts even are and what they are doing. Can I please get unblocked?}} Rane43 (talk) 18:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Can you please take a look at my unblock request section below? I hope that this mistake can be resolved soon. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 23:33, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

There is no point in denying it. Wikipedia:CheckUser (CU) has confirmed that you are related to the other accounts. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rane43. Any further denials will just make you look deceptive. In case you wonder about a CU, they can see your location, computer, hardware, software, operating system, timing, etc. They don't get it wrong. You will never get unblocked as long as you deny. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 00:12, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok there must be some error in the system. I do not have any alternative accounts. Plus my Rane43 account here has shown no abuse or wrongdoings. This is just completely unexpected and came out of nowhere. I wake up today and I see this. I am not being deceptive, I am telling the truth. I don’t know how the CU determined that. I live in a pretty decent-sized town so it would’ve had to have been someone else. But either way, this account has no abuse it on, so why does it get banned? Rane43 (talk) 00:27, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I have seen the duck evidence. I can admit to that. Since then, I haven’t posted anything like that. That was just me trying to have a conversation with that user. There was also no bad intent in that message and no abuse. I was also not engaging in any type of personal opinions about politics like the other three accounts were. I was just simply disagreeing with how the page was being edited. Now the CU. There must be some mistake in that because I am not associated with those other three accounts. I know you probably won’t believe but I don’t have any other way to put it. Rane43 (talk) 00:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I know you won’t believe me, but this is just very upsetting. I haven’t done anything wrong in about two years as an editor. I am just not sure how this could’ve happened. Rane43 (talk) 00:43, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

You are saying contradictory things. You say "I have seen the duck evidence. I can admit to that." So you did say something back then with this account, and it is extremely similar in meaning and wording to what the other accounts are saying. That is what raised suspicions and you ended up at SPI. There a special editor with CU rights checked and found that the other accounts are also your accounts. You've got a serious problem as we are generally not allowed to use more than one account. You will need to discuss this with the editors at SPI. I suggest you go there and talk to User:Firefly and User:ScottishFinnishRadish. They are both administrators and Firefly has CU rights. Oops! You're blocked so you can't go there, but my links to them should ping them.

Regardless of your attempts to keep this account clean and clear of controversy, we treat all these accounts as one person, namely you the person, and you, using these other accounts, have engaged in some seriously problematic behavior and shown a total inability to vet sources for reliability. You have very partisan motives. That means you lack the competency to edit controversial topics here, especially politics. Your only salvation would be to appeal for a topic ban from politics and only edit other topics. I don't know if anyone would allow that. You may have to accept a block and after a year reapply for mercy (using the same account). Never try to create a different account to evade a block. A CU will expose you. The CU literally knows where you live and what computer you use. (They are also sworn to secrecy, so don't worry. You're safe.) -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:34, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

After reading this again Valjean, that is just so laughable. I have a “total inability to vet reliable sources” and a “serious problem”. If so, then why have my NASCAR edits never gotten reverted. I always put in a reliable source, because again, that’s all I do. I don’t do political pages and have not once made an edit. I don’t know if you saw the message I stated below, but I hope this will get all figured out soon and that we can stop the name-calling and be civil. Rane43 (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Your problems are related to politics and RS for them. You have discussed political topics and made many politically partisan edits and comments. While we allow a bit more freedom on talk pages, advocacy of fringe POV is not allowed, even there, and even on your own talk page. Don't attack RS like CNN.

This link shows blatantly partisan edits to several other pages than Trump's talk page (so this isn't just about Trump), whitewashing (especially removal of "false" and large swaths of content you don't like), a partisan mission ("fixed bias"), vandalism of a private user subpage, attacks on RS (you are clueless about what constitutes a RS and call mainstream sources "fake news"), and a personal attack on User:Space4Time3Continuum2x:

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That's really bad and shows you're a partisan warrior. Those IPs are blocked, and yet you are here making edits and comments, and that's block evasion. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Wow, funny. I guess you didn’t see that message then. That was my twin brother making those edits. All I was said on the talk pages was making the Donald Trump more neutral, but after looking at Wikipedia’s policies, I decided that that wasn’t possible, so I stopped going on political pages several months ago. I have only been making NASCAR edits. My testimony that you missed is being looked at and I would appreciate the ending of your attacks on me personally. I would like to keep things civil. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 16:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Sure. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Alright, great. I am mutually and respectfully ending this contact with you. Have a great day! Rane43 (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, once again. Just wanted to check in and see if there are any updates on the new SPI addition that you were talking about on your talk page. Those IPs aren’t mine, but I’m sure the CU will provide that evidence. Anyway, I just wanted to see if there was anything new. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 05:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, @Valjean. Do I just sound silly when I say that my twin brother had the other accounts? I mean I know you guys can’t ever 100% know that unless you see it with your own 2 eyes that I do actually have a twin. I am trying to get unblocked, but the admins won’t believe me. I guess they just only look at the CU evidence. What else can I do to get unblocked? Rane43 (talk) 13:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Please do not reveal any private information on-wiki. I've removed your last messages and revision deleted them. Please bear with us as we look into this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:47, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I’m sorry about that. Thanks for looking into this. I can admit to wrongdoing that I allowed my brother to do and promise it won’t happen again. Thank you, I appreciate the help. Rane43 (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I was just looking over Valjean’s talk page. I want to make a few things clear. The IP addresses that are on that Donald Trump talk page are not mine nor my brother’s. That is a different location entirely. My brother was editing the Joe Biden Impeachment Inquiry page. Any IP addresses would be on there, but I don’t think he used one. I’m pretty sure he just made new accounts with names. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 18:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rane43 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hello, firefly. I am not sure what is happening here. Rane43 is my only account. Has there been some sort of mistake? I'm not even sure what sockpuppetry exactly is. I only edit NASCAR pages. I did some political pages several months ago, but only ever commented on their respective talk pages so I'm not sure what this is all about. Can you please unblock me? I literally have no idea what is going on. Rane43 (talk) 17:56, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

See below. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rane43 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hello. I am really unsure of what to do to get my account unblocked. I don't know how to do any of this technical stuff. Again, I am not sure how I got mentioned for this sockpuppetry thing, but may I please be unblocked? This just came out of no where. I have shown no wrongdoings on this account and I'm not even sure what those three other accounts even are and what they are doing. Can I please get unblocked?

Decline reason:

See below. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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Unblock Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rane43 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hello, I have reviewed the way to request an unblock and I think this is how to do it. After reviewing, I am not sure how those three other accounts have the same IP Address. That must be a coincidence. Additionally, Rane43 has no logs anywhere else of any abuse or wrongdoings. I simply just edit NASCAR pages and that’s it. I have not made one edit on a political page, only on talk pages. I have also shown no abuse on those talk pages. On my bio, I wrote that I only write in a neutral way when it comes to politics and I have not once spewed my personal opinion on any page. I have never said nor preached that Joe Biden sucks. I feel this is relevant because one account on the sockpuppetry list has that as one of the accounts. My name is also Rane, not Reese. Anyway, I think there is some sort of mistake going on here and that the IP addresses are a coincidence. I pledge that I have no alternate accounts that have been engaged in sockpuppetry. I only have Rane43 where I edit NASCAR pages and have shown no abuse. I look forward for someone to get back to me and I hope we can resolve this soon so I can get back to my normal editing.

Decline reason:

I could see how one might argue that your account was a false positive, but Special:Diff/1160501006 makes it seem a lot less likely. Also, in the future, please just make one unblock request with your final answer. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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NinjaRobotPirate, I've emailed you about this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:00, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Unblock Request 2

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rane43 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hello, I would like to try another unblock request. I understand what has been done and promise it won’t happen again. As I have said previously, my twin brother got out of hand and the CU sucked me into this because of the same location/IP Address I assume. Anyway, Rane43 has no shown no past abuses and is my only account, as the others are my brother’s. For more information about this, talk to Valjean. I respect him and feel sympathy for the threats that he has received, so I can trust him to say the truth. Back on topic, I hope this can be resolved soon and that I can go back to my normal editing of NASCAR pages. Thanks.

Decline reason:

This approach won't work. First, this account has shown inappropriate editing. Second, WP:LITTLEBROTHER. Yamla (talk) 10:02, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Unblock Request 3

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Rane43 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Hello. I understand what has been done and I promise it will not happen again. I will take a topic ban on political pages and just focus on other things as I have been doing before the ban. I’m not sure how long those bans are. I think they are a year, but whatever it is that will be fine. I hope this can be resolved soon. Thanks.

Accept reason:

I'm going to unilaterally modify the agreement below a bit because it's too broad. There's no reason I can see that you should be topic banned from 20th century European politics. I'll unblock you with a topic ban on post-1992 American politics. That means you can't comment on American politics or culture war issues of interest to Americans, if they're past 1992. To avoid further problems, please read through Wikipedia:Contentious topics and familiarize yourself with how they work. This is not an official "Contentious Topics sanction", and it can be appealed normally, presumably through Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. However, you're treading on several contentious topics, and Wikipedia is tired of culture warriors using our website to wage their battles. Please also see Help:Getting started for links to tutorials, policies, and various pages that will assist new users. You really should at least skim through that stuff. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:20, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Rane43 (talk) 16:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

The issues, as I see them, are a) that you're being honest about your brother controlling the other accounts, and b) will their disruption resume if the block is lifted. The brother situation is so common that there is an essay, WP:BROTHER, that covers it. I've seen some evidence that leads me to believe that you're being truthful about that. However, if your brother is being independently disruptive, then we need to be able to deal with that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Admins, as an act of AGF, I tend to favor this approach: A complete topic ban for politics, widely construed, for this account, and a complete ban for User:Reese12345678910, from whence the truly disruptive stuff came. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Valjean and @ScottishFinnishRadish. I will take the topic ban if that’s what happens here. Also please inform on what AGF means. Anyway, thank you for looking into it. I am glad that you have seen evidence. I would support a complete ban on all of Reese’s accounts. I got onto him about what he did and he does feel bad for what has happened. I’m not gonna speak anymore on his behalf, but as far as my account goes, I will take the topic ban if necessary and promise that I will not show any abuse. Rane43 (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

AGF stands for WP:Assume good faith. As you block is a checkuser block only a checkuser can unblock, but I have provided some evidence to a few of them privately. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thank you very much. Rane43 (talk) 16:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Well, I'd be willing to unblock, but I'd like the blocking admin to comment first. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, any updates on this request? I’ve just been waiting 3 days now, so would like for something to happen with this request as it is still open. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 13:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@Firefly please comment on pending unblock request. Thanks. Rane43 (talk) 00:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate - happy for you to unblock. firefly ( t · c ) 09:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Gasconade County R-I School District

Hello, Rane43. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Gasconade County R-I School District".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:34, 22 September 2023 (UTC)