User talk:JBW

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Could you review his unblock request? Needs a fresh perspective and insight. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra:  Done 😖 JBW (talk) 19:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but thanks/ -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

What do "we" do about AI

I have just come across a self publicist using AI (0.9 probability) to generate their draft autobiograohy, rejected the draft and tagged it for CSD. I have to use a custom rationale, because I am not sure we cover it. See Draft:Thierry Rayer. Do you know if we have formulated a policy about this, both for the article/draft and the dieters editors! using it to generate such things? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

G11 is certainly pragmatic 👍 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:02, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent: This is a difficult type of situation, because it sort of skirts around various policies without crashing straight into any of them. Depressingly often I find myself obliged to decline speedy deletion requests for pages which obviously should be deleted, because they just don't fit any of the criteria. The draft has been edited, making it less blatantly promotional than when it was first created, and it avoided any of the blatantly promotional language which one sees in many self-promotional articles, but I still think it had enough of an overall promotional character to justify speedy deletion. I don't think there's any policy about AI generated content, but there's certainly a guideline or essay or something discouraging it. Unfortunately I can't find it now; it isn't WP:AI. Personally I'm against having a policy about it, because the more policies we have the more confusing things get, especially for good faith new editors; the more things there are for editors to wikilawyer about the detailed wording of the policies; the more difficult it becomes to deal with things which without a specific policy would be obviously not OK but which clearly aren't covered by the policy because the editors who made the policy didn't anticipate them, and so on. (See my comment above beginning "Depressingly often I find...") I long for the days when the whole corpus of Wikipedia policies was on one page, which would fit on about two screens full. ...sigh... (That was before my time on Wikipedia, but even when I started out, the body of policies and guidelines was substantially smaller than it is now, and I really don't think we are any better off for the change.) JBW (talk) 22:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia's ever expanding policies are evidence that we appear to love tying ourselves up in red tape! We even named a level in our hierarchy 'bureaucrats'! I predict we will become ever more rule and regulation bound until all we do is discuss rules and regulations... until a rule is made against doing that.

As a side note I have no idea how anyone can choose to put themselves through today's RFA! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:24, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

"I don't think there's any policy about AI generated content, but there's certainly a guideline or essay or something discouraging it. Unfortunately I can't find it now; it isn't WP:AI."

Do you mean WP:LLM? Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68 and Timtrent: Yes, that's the one I had in mind. Thanks. JBW (talk) 15:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

About your partial block of 2409:40C2:0:0:0:0:0:0/33

Hi, JB; please block them from The Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2024 and Central Waqf Council as well.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: Looking at the editing history of the article, I found that the /33 block wouldn't be enough: it would need a /25 block, and the software doesn't allow bigger bocks than /32. I did think of blocking each /32 subrange that has edited the article, but I had only got as far as doing one of them (2409:40C2:0:0:0:0:0:0/32) when I decided it wasn't worth doing. I am not going to sit here and block all 128 of the /32 subranges, and if I just block those which have edited the article it's very likely that the editing will just move to another one. Therefore I've semi-protected the article instead. JBW (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I was going to take that Central Waqf article to RfPP anyway, if the sneaky vandalism continued much longer. Now I don't have to keep an eye on it.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: I didn't notice that you mentioned 2 articles above. I'll look at the other one now. JBW (talk) 15:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: I've added the other article to the partial block on 2409:40C2:0:0:0:0:0:0/32. If you see the vandalism move to another related range then let me know, and I'll consider whether to protect that one too. JBW (talk) 15:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Will do.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Inclusion of school shooting threat in school's article?

I've verified that this threat did happen but I believe it fails WP:NOTNEWS and, considering the length of the article, WP:UNDUE.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: Yes, I agree, on both counts. JBW (talk) 20:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #92922 revisted.

Now that we've cleared the permaban hurdle, do you think I should decline and recomend trying again so as not to waste the community's time with a futile effort? I need a consensus at UTRS to do so. Or not. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I've posted a comment there. JBW (talk) 19:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

124.169.141.129's block

Please unblock Special:Contributions/124.169.141.129 per my now-vanished comment. Izno (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@Izno: I think you are mistaken, as putting triple brackets is not something one would be at all likely to do without a reason; nevertheless I will give the benefit of the doubt. However, you may like to consider whether, if you disagree with another administrator's decision, there might be a more friendly way of expressing your different opinion than "That was a bad block and you should reverse it". How about "I think you were mistaken, and I suggest you might revert it", for example? JBW (talk) 20:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Premiership of Robert Jenkinson, 2nd Earl of Liverpool

Hi JBW. I requested the deletion of this page for the reasons I explained at WP:RFU. Would you mind fulfilling this request and then restore the record of deletion nomination? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)