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  • Alexa can show you even more - 8” HD touchscreen, adaptive color, and stereo speakers bring entertainment to life. Make video calls with a 13 MP camera that uses auto-framing to keep you centered.
  • Stay in frame - Make video calls with a new camera that frames and centers automatically. Simply ask Alexa to call your contacts.
  • Make life easier at home - Glance at your calendars and reminders. Get daily recipe ideas and cook along hands-free with step-by-step instructions. Use your voice to set timers, update lists, and see news or traffic updates.
  • Manage your smart home - Look in when you're away with the built-in camera. Control compatible devices like cameras, lights, and more using the interactive display, your voice, or your motion.
  • Be entertained - Enjoy TV shows and movies in HD and stereo with Prime Video, Netflix, and more. Or ask Alexa to stream Amazon Music, Apple Music, or Spotify.
  • Put your memories on display - Use Amazon Photos to turn your home screen into a digital frame. Adaptive color helps your favorite photos look great in any light.
  • Designed to protect your privacy - Amazon is not in the business of selling your personal information to others. Built with multiple layers of privacy controls including a mic/camera off button and a built-in camera shutter.
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Customers find the Echo Dot to be a useful and life-changing device. They appreciate its sound quality, ease of use, and picture quality. The speakers do an excellent job filling the room with rich sound. The Echo can hear and recognize voice from quite some distance away. The screen size is great, and customers are satisfied with the Echo Show and music playback. However, opinions differ on whether it offers good value for money.

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2,511 customers mention "Functionality"2,129 positive382 negative

Customers appreciate the product's functionality and design. They find it useful, with impressive features and seamless integration with their smart home. Some mention that YouTube works well with Alexa and the Echo Show 8 is a great piece of hardware.

"...change this. I am not changing my 5+ rating because it’s very worth it.!!! 🩷..." Read more

"...It literally took 2 minutes or less to set up and it has been working beautifully since we got it. NONE of the issues that the initial one had...." Read more

"...It also hooks up to our cameras. Sounds is great and so is the screen quality. Easy to use and keeps me updated." Read more

"...I did and spoiler alert, it is worth it, kinda. Positives: - The new camera features are great...." Read more

1,457 customers mention "Sound quality"1,206 positive251 negative

Customers appreciate the sound quality of the digital device. The speakers do an excellent job filling the room with rich sound. The volume range is impressive, allowing for comfortable listening at lower levels. The Echo can hear and recognize voice from quite some distance away. The high-definition screen, stereo speakers, and the power of Alexa have made her responses get voice intonation correct.

"...house and I have it playing on all my devices at once, it’s like surround sound. I have one in every room of the house and so does my mother...." Read more

"...up ALL of my smart devices throughout my home and the sound quality is pretty great!..." Read more

"...I love it! It also hooks up to our cameras. Sounds is great and so is the screen quality. Easy to use and keeps me updated." Read more

"...The sound quality improved over the previous gen, I think, but I would say its marginal if that, not enough to even be sure it did...." Read more

1,244 customers mention "Ease of use"925 positive319 negative

Customers appreciate the digital device's ease of use. They find it straightforward to set up and use, with seamless integration between smart home brands. The Echo Show 8 effortlessly manages various aspects of daily life, adding convenience and peace of mind. It can be configured to suit personal preferences, improving quality of life for some. However, some customers feel the kids mode is lacking in key areas.

"...It’s a little scary. It is very easy to use. I’ve even taught my mother how to use it and even taught her how to call for help if needed...." Read more

"...It literally took 2 minutes or less to set up and it has been working beautifully since we got it. NONE of the issues that the initial one had...." Read more

"...Sounds is great and so is the screen quality. Easy to use and keeps me updated." Read more

"...It feels a bit over engineered and not well thought out when it comes to the OS. Maybe that will get ironed out with some updates in the future...." Read more

995 customers mention "Picture quality"952 positive43 negative

Customers appreciate the Echo Show 8's vivid and clear display. They find it perfect for watching videos, photos, and displaying their favorite photos. The large screen makes it easier to view the camera or any notifications from the device.

"...It has the perfect amount of brightness to it, and it’s easy to see. Thank you so much Amazon for this product...." Read more

"...Set up manual minimal, easy to read Size of unit was great, display is clear Initial set up was easy...." Read more

"...So the screen is very nice and more responsive than my previous model (the echo show 10 2nd gen.)..." Read more

"...With its vibrant display, powerful speakers, and Alexa integration, it enhances your smart home experience, keeps you connected, and offers endless..." Read more

619 customers mention "Screen size"507 positive112 negative

Customers appreciate the Echo Dot's screen size. They find it clear, with an 8-inch display that is perfect for viewing recipes and watching short videos. The compact size is suitable for any space. The protectors come in various sizes and colors, making it a convenient mini TV.

"...Set up manual minimal, easy to read Size of unit was great, display is clear Initial set up was easy...." Read more

"...The large display ensures that everyone can be seen clearly during video chats, adding a personal touch to long-distance conversations...." Read more

"...Screen is great size and clear with good pixels...." Read more

"...quality is surprisingly good for its size, and the 8-inch display is perfect for viewing recipes and watching short videos...." Read more

576 customers mention "Music playback"417 positive159 negative

Customers enjoy the music playback on the digital device. They can stream music from their favorite streaming platforms like Amazon Music, Spotify, and Apple Music. The rich audio experience enhances listening and video calls with exceptional quality. It can be used as a speaker for music or as a screen for video calling. However, some find the Nest Hub Max better for music and videos, as it has more services.

"...She loves listening to music as I do. Lately with all these Alexa commercials it changes my TV without even asking it to...." Read more

"...Enjoy music from your favorite streaming platforms like Amazon Music, Spotify, and Apple Music...." Read more

"...that you won't get access to all the seasons, the streaming Apps options in the device are limited...." Read more

"...But this is way more than that. You can ask it to play your favorite music on Spotify. It can pull up your playlists instantly...." Read more

574 customers mention "Echo show"476 positive98 negative

Customers appreciate the Echo Show's integration with Alexa. They like being able to access Alexa, stream music, view photos, and control it through the Alexa app on their phones. They also mention that more devices are compatible with Alexa than Google Assistant and they appreciate the ability to control it through the Alex app on their phones.

"...With its vibrant display, powerful speakers, and Alexa integration, it enhances your smart home experience, keeps you connected, and offers endless..." Read more

"...Plus, more devices are compatible with Alexa than with Google Assistant...." Read more

"...for light and it plays music at night, he still plays on it and asks Alexa questions, overall we absolutely love this product...." Read more

"...make quite a few video calls, then this new Show 8 is probably worth the upgrade...." Read more

688 customers mention "Value for money"401 positive287 negative

Customers have mixed opinions about the value for money of the digital device. Some find it offers exceptional value and functionality, making it a solid purchase and investment. Others feel it's a waste of money, needs an update, and the range of Alexa apps is underwhelming in variety and quality compared to other virtual assistants.

"...I got this for a good price on an Amazon deal, so I placed a rather large (expensive) order to start the transition of fully integrated "smart" home...." Read more

"...While the price may be a bit higher than other Echo devices, the enhanced features make it well worth the investment...." Read more

"...or staying connected with loved ones, the Echo Show 8 is the perfect companion for a more connected and convenient lifestyle." Read more

"...why I'll never buy another Amazon screen device: As a picture frame it's utterly useless...." Read more

I love my Echo Show 8 but lately…
5 out of 5 stars
I love my Echo Show 8 but lately…
I love my echo show 8. I also bought one for my mother that’s 97 years old after nearly losing her last year. She loves her independence at home. It helps keep her safe and up with the daily news and so much more. She loves listening to music as I do.Lately with all these Alexa commercials it changes my TV without even asking it to. When it hears the commercial say Alexa it will change the channel or do things like playing different songs.. I know they are trying to sell these especially during Christmas time but…I have to turn off the sound as you can see in the picture theres a red line on the bottom when I’m watching a show that I don’t want to be Interrupted, and that is a real problem also because I have them hooked to my Blink outdoor camera system. I have to turn the voice part off when I’m watching television because it’ll change my channels on my fire TV. If the one in the living room is off where I’m watching TV..the one in the kitchen always answers it when it hears the TV say Alexa. There’s got to be other ways for these commercials.Yes it has made a big positive difference in my life, A wonderful difference. I love listening to music, especially when I am cleaning house and I have it playing on all my devices at once, it’s like surround sound. I have one in every room of the house and so does my mother. It’s amazing. The connectivity is OK except when there’s bad weather and there is an internet outage, which we have often in Texas. It’s a little scary. It is very easy to use. I’ve even taught my mother how to use it and even taught her how to call for help if needed. She can even call me and I can see her face-to-face. This has helped her and her independence in staying home by herself. The picture quality is great. The voice recognition I really don’t know, it does respond to my grandchildren also. Which they love some of the games on it, especially playing against other users and naming a song title or artist. I’m not sure what it’s called. It has the perfect amount of brightness to it, and it’s easy to see. Thank you so much Amazon for this product. It has really saved my mom and I. Especially when I had a stranger try to break into my home. I had photos and videos to show the police. They did catch the ones responsible which was a big relief.Besides the Alexa commercials, I highly recommend it. It’s not like the Alexa commercials come on every hour or so. It’s almost every 15 or 20 minutes on live TV. Especially during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Please help change this. I am not changing my 5+ rating because it’s very worth it.!!! 🩷
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  • Reviewed in the United States on December 8, 2024
    Color: Glacier WhiteConfiguration: Device OnlyVerified Purchase
    I love my echo show 8. I also bought one for my mother that’s 97 years old after nearly losing her last year. She loves her independence at home. It helps keep her safe and up with the daily news and so much more. She loves listening to music as I do.

    Lately with all these Alexa commercials it changes my TV without even asking it to. When it hears the commercial say Alexa it will change the channel or do things like playing different songs.. I know they are trying to sell these especially during Christmas time but…
    I have to turn off the sound as you can see in the picture theres a red line on the bottom when I’m watching a show that I don’t want to be Interrupted, and that is a real problem also because I have them hooked to my Blink outdoor camera system. I have to turn the voice part off when I’m watching television because it’ll change my channels on my fire TV. If the one in the living room is off where I’m watching TV..the one in the kitchen always answers it when it hears the TV say Alexa. There’s got to be other ways for these commercials.

    Yes it has made a big positive difference in my life, A wonderful difference. I love listening to music, especially when I am cleaning house and I have it playing on all my devices at once, it’s like surround sound. I have one in every room of the house and so does my mother. It’s amazing. The connectivity is OK except when there’s bad weather and there is an internet outage, which we have often in Texas. It’s a little scary.

    It is very easy to use. I’ve even taught my mother how to use it and even taught her how to call for help if needed. She can even call me and I can see her face-to-face. This has helped her and her independence in staying home by herself. The picture quality is great. The voice recognition I really don’t know, it does respond to my grandchildren also. Which they love some of the games on it, especially playing against other users and naming a song title or artist. I’m not sure what it’s called. It has the perfect amount of brightness to it, and it’s easy to see.

    Thank you so much Amazon for this product. It has really saved my mom and I. Especially when I had a stranger try to break into my home. I had photos and videos to show the police. They did catch the ones responsible which was a big relief.

    Besides the Alexa commercials, I highly recommend it. It’s not like the Alexa commercials come on every hour or so. It’s almost every 15 or 20 minutes on live TV. Especially during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Please help change this.
    I am not changing my 5+ rating because it’s very worth it.!!! 🩷
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    5.0 out of 5 stars
    I love my Echo Show 8 but lately…

    Reviewed in the United States on December 8, 2024
    I love my echo show 8. I also bought one for my mother that’s 97 years old after nearly losing her last year. She loves her independence at home. It helps keep her safe and up with the daily news and so much more. She loves listening to music as I do.

    Lately with all these Alexa commercials it changes my TV without even asking it to. When it hears the commercial say Alexa it will change the channel or do things like playing different songs.. I know they are trying to sell these especially during Christmas time but…
    I have to turn off the sound as you can see in the picture theres a red line on the bottom when I’m watching a show that I don’t want to be Interrupted, and that is a real problem also because I have them hooked to my Blink outdoor camera system. I have to turn the voice part off when I’m watching television because it’ll change my channels on my fire TV. If the one in the living room is off where I’m watching TV..the one in the kitchen always answers it when it hears the TV say Alexa. There’s got to be other ways for these commercials.

    Yes it has made a big positive difference in my life, A wonderful difference. I love listening to music, especially when I am cleaning house and I have it playing on all my devices at once, it’s like surround sound. I have one in every room of the house and so does my mother. It’s amazing. The connectivity is OK except when there’s bad weather and there is an internet outage, which we have often in Texas. It’s a little scary.

    It is very easy to use. I’ve even taught my mother how to use it and even taught her how to call for help if needed. She can even call me and I can see her face-to-face. This has helped her and her independence in staying home by herself. The picture quality is great. The voice recognition I really don’t know, it does respond to my grandchildren also. Which they love some of the games on it, especially playing against other users and naming a song title or artist. I’m not sure what it’s called. It has the perfect amount of brightness to it, and it’s easy to see.

    Thank you so much Amazon for this product. It has really saved my mom and I. Especially when I had a stranger try to break into my home. I had photos and videos to show the police. They did catch the ones responsible which was a big relief.

    Besides the Alexa commercials, I highly recommend it. It’s not like the Alexa commercials come on every hour or so. It’s almost every 15 or 20 minutes on live TV. Especially during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Please help change this.
    I am not changing my 5+ rating because it’s very worth it.!!! 🩷
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  • Reviewed in the United States on October 27, 2022
    Color: Glacier WhiteConfiguration: Device OnlyVerified Purchase
    I was anxiously awaiting the delivery of my Echo Show 8. I got this for a good price on an Amazon deal, so I placed a rather large (expensive) order to start the transition of fully integrated "smart" home. This order included 12 smart recessed lights, 18 smart light bulbs and this device that I was hoping would pull everything together and allow me to be "hands free" and enjoy all the wonderful things I've heard the echos have to offer. We had issues with it right out of the box, sadly. I will list the pros and cons:

    Pros:
    Great price( amazon deal), fast delivery, well packaged
    Set up manual minimal, easy to read
    Size of unit was great, display is clear
    Initial set up was easy.
    Synced my other smart devices easily.

    Cons:
    •Voice recognition has not worked at all, ever so I am unable to "talk" to Alexa. Which really bummed me out. I pictured cleaning my kitchen, requesting some wholesome music for the entire family, "Alexa, play WAP" 🤣 ok, maybe a different choice then "Alexa, play Jason Mraz." ... nothing. Of course I also signed up for unlimited Amazon music so that I could hear the actual song I wanted and be the Dj of my house when the mood struck.

    I attempted to set up our profiles, first starting with the voice recognition. I must've turned that 🎤 off and on 50x trying to figure out this thing. I started to feel like maybe it was "user error" and I was missing something. So, I "googled" ( which is obviously a verb this day in age) troubleshooting options and I tried EVERYTHING it suggested to no avail. I noticed my bar light was orange which suggests connectivity issues, so I went down that troubleshooting path...nothing. I restarted my router, I made sure i was on 2.4gHz not the 5gHz (though it had issues even staying on that frequency) despite my internet connection reading "excellent".I strategically went through every possible avenue I could to attempt to correct the issues and ended up spending HOURS ( literally 10 hours) attempting to troubleshoot. I factory reset it probably 8-10 times. Literally nothing worked.

    • Screen calibration is slightly off and slow to respond. It didn't matter if I touched it lightly, with gentle pressure, a quick tap or a long firm press...it wouldn't register and was delayed 99% of the time.
    • Has a mind of its own. I would select a screen, for instance, a receipe ...it would initially open then within seconds close out and go to a different screen. Maybe it was catching up with the previous 10 request I had tapped on the screen, but weird that it did that only after my last selection and I had not selected what it was closing out and opening up.
    • Speakers aren't great. Kind of muted sounding. I only know this because the only way I was ever able to use it was through Alexa app on my phone.

    I did also contact chat support through Amazon and when it suggested all of the same things I had been trying repeatedly I just decided I was not going to continue in this maddening process. So, I finally gave in after less than 24 hours with this thing and requested a return. I was only able to return it for a refund, not return for a replacement. Which, is fine with me..I am researching older models. So, today I have it all packaged up and am anxiously awaiting my UPS pickup so I can receive my Amazon credit. I may go with a previous version of the Echo. I'm not totally against it...I may have just had a 🍋 because there are those in every bunch. However, if the 2nd one doesn't work out, I will just be keeping my home smart devices controlled on my phone and purchase smart speakers to install throughout my house so I can jam out and just print my recipes the old fashioned way 🤣 or use my awesome JBL flip that has NEVER let me down. For my lights, I may have to go with an oldie, but a Goldie "The Clapper".

    At THIS point in time I 100% would NOT recommend this item. However, once I order a different one I may have a change of 💙

    Update: 11/2/22

    I reorderd the same echo show and recieved it. I know, I know what was I thinking!! The first one I had received was obviously a 🍋after receiving the 2nd device I ordered. It literally took 2 minutes or less to set up and it has been working beautifully since we got it. NONE of the issues that the initial one had. I'm glad I went with the same model and trusted my gut that the previous one was just a faulty device. It picks up ALL of my smart devices throughout my home and the sound quality is pretty great! Not quite JBL or Bose Bluetooth speaker quality, but WAY better than I had anticipated. I am super happy with my purchase and my kids are fighting over who gets to choose the next song. I told them cleaning the house/ their room is ALWAYS better with loud music. So far....its working to get them to clean their rooms without complaining about it! 🤣
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    5.0 out of 5 stars
    HUGE disappointment...updated to 5 STARS after receiving a different device!!!

    Reviewed in the United States on October 27, 2022
    I was anxiously awaiting the delivery of my Echo Show 8. I got this for a good price on an Amazon deal, so I placed a rather large (expensive) order to start the transition of fully integrated "smart" home. This order included 12 smart recessed lights, 18 smart light bulbs and this device that I was hoping would pull everything together and allow me to be "hands free" and enjoy all the wonderful things I've heard the echos have to offer. We had issues with it right out of the box, sadly. I will list the pros and cons:

    Pros:
    Great price( amazon deal), fast delivery, well packaged
    Set up manual minimal, easy to read
    Size of unit was great, display is clear
    Initial set up was easy.
    Synced my other smart devices easily.

    Cons:
    •Voice recognition has not worked at all, ever so I am unable to "talk" to Alexa. Which really bummed me out. I pictured cleaning my kitchen, requesting some wholesome music for the entire family, "Alexa, play WAP" 🤣 ok, maybe a different choice then "Alexa, play Jason Mraz." ... nothing. Of course I also signed up for unlimited Amazon music so that I could hear the actual song I wanted and be the Dj of my house when the mood struck.

    I attempted to set up our profiles, first starting with the voice recognition. I must've turned that 🎤 off and on 50x trying to figure out this thing. I started to feel like maybe it was "user error" and I was missing something. So, I "googled" ( which is obviously a verb this day in age) troubleshooting options and I tried EVERYTHING it suggested to no avail. I noticed my bar light was orange which suggests connectivity issues, so I went down that troubleshooting path...nothing. I restarted my router, I made sure i was on 2.4gHz not the 5gHz (though it had issues even staying on that frequency) despite my internet connection reading "excellent".I strategically went through every possible avenue I could to attempt to correct the issues and ended up spending HOURS ( literally 10 hours) attempting to troubleshoot. I factory reset it probably 8-10 times. Literally nothing worked.

    • Screen calibration is slightly off and slow to respond. It didn't matter if I touched it lightly, with gentle pressure, a quick tap or a long firm press...it wouldn't register and was delayed 99% of the time.
    • Has a mind of its own. I would select a screen, for instance, a receipe ...it would initially open then within seconds close out and go to a different screen. Maybe it was catching up with the previous 10 request I had tapped on the screen, but weird that it did that only after my last selection and I had not selected what it was closing out and opening up.
    • Speakers aren't great. Kind of muted sounding. I only know this because the only way I was ever able to use it was through Alexa app on my phone.

    I did also contact chat support through Amazon and when it suggested all of the same things I had been trying repeatedly I just decided I was not going to continue in this maddening process. So, I finally gave in after less than 24 hours with this thing and requested a return. I was only able to return it for a refund, not return for a replacement. Which, is fine with me..I am researching older models. So, today I have it all packaged up and am anxiously awaiting my UPS pickup so I can receive my Amazon credit. I may go with a previous version of the Echo. I'm not totally against it...I may have just had a 🍋 because there are those in every bunch. However, if the 2nd one doesn't work out, I will just be keeping my home smart devices controlled on my phone and purchase smart speakers to install throughout my house so I can jam out and just print my recipes the old fashioned way 🤣 or use my awesome JBL flip that has NEVER let me down. For my lights, I may have to go with an oldie, but a Goldie "The Clapper".

    At THIS point in time I 100% would NOT recommend this item. However, once I order a different one I may have a change of 💙

    Update: 11/2/22

    I reorderd the same echo show and recieved it. I know, I know what was I thinking!! The first one I had received was obviously a 🍋after receiving the 2nd device I ordered. It literally took 2 minutes or less to set up and it has been working beautifully since we got it. NONE of the issues that the initial one had. I'm glad I went with the same model and trusted my gut that the previous one was just a faulty device. It picks up ALL of my smart devices throughout my home and the sound quality is pretty great! Not quite JBL or Bose Bluetooth speaker quality, but WAY better than I had anticipated. I am super happy with my purchase and my kids are fighting over who gets to choose the next song. I told them cleaning the house/ their room is ALWAYS better with loud music. So far....its working to get them to clean their rooms without complaining about it! 🤣
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  • Reviewed in the United States on January 19, 2025
    Color: CharcoalConfiguration: with Blink MiniVerified Purchase
    I use this in our kitchen for shows, recipes and music. I love it! It also hooks up to our cameras. Sounds is great and so is the screen quality. Easy to use and keeps me updated.

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  • Rockse
    5.0 out of 5 stars très bon produit!
    Reviewed in Canada on January 23, 2025
    Mon fils aime bien tout ce que cette machine peut faire pour lui
  • Ana Ribeiro
    5.0 out of 5 stars Sound
    Reviewed in Canada on October 26, 2024
    I can be at work and check my pets or if I think something is wrong or I forgot it. I can check by the camera. The sound is amazing for music
  • Elizabeth M Ewing
    2.0 out of 5 stars Needs improvement
    Reviewed in Canada on January 3, 2023
    Hard to set up. Inconsistent performance.
    The Doorbell is difficult to program. I have had to use Google to find out how to make adjustments. Ultimately, the Ring support staff were helpful and they transferred me to Amazon Echo support. Otherwise, it was impossible to contact a live person at Amazon. It was difficult for me to determine if a feature is in the Ring or Echo APP.
    One reason I bought the unit was to have the picture appear on my Eco Show when someone rings the Doorbell. I found that this feature is not available in Canada. And when the view is called for, the pause for the live view to appear is long enough for the person to leave the porch.
    I have the unit programmed to record people only. During a rain storm, and a blizzard a few days later, the unit did not record some people activity that I saw, and did record “non” people activity.EG: It did record a pickup truck passing my house.
    A person put something in my mailbox, which is beside my porch, and the Doorbell only recorded them at the mailbox – not arriving or departing. The Doorbell is programmed to record for 90 seconds.
    I live on a cul de sac of 6 homes. It is a dead end. I often see recordings of people leaving (with a dog, say) and not returning, or returning from a walk, but not leaving. Of course, I don’t know if they are using their back yards.
    The Doorbell seldom records both the arrival and departure of people across the road when they arrive and depart by car, to visit the house there. It might record one of the two activities.
    I believe that I DO get recordings of everyone who gets on my porch.
    Video calls are often not connected, or dropped, and of poor quality.
  • Patrizia D
    5.0 out of 5 stars Love it!
    Reviewed in Canada on January 25, 2024
    I'm not a techie at all so this isn't a review about that, but all it can do for me. Alexa reminds me of anything I want remembered. Wake up calls. What's the weather today. Reminds me to let dogs out, baking, jokes, math. spelling and on and on.......best friend for an old lady like me lol. Definitely recommend!
  • Kaela
    1.0 out of 5 stars Don’t even waste your money!!
    Reviewed in Canada on September 21, 2024
    Such a useless stand doesn’t even connect properly you’re better off just putting it on any stand or shelf.