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https://twitter.com/i/status/1789653035456643277
A few weeks ago, Twitter philosopher Philippe Lemoine posted a video of a recent Jon Stewart comedy sketch about how much even Stewart gets yelled at when he says anything mildly critical of Israel these days.
A Muslim lady Labour candidate in Britain’s July General Election, @faizashaheen, clicked “Like” on Lemoine’s tweet.
And now she is being forced to drop out of the race.
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A Korean guy and a Jewish guy are drinking at the bar…
The Jewish guy turns to the Korean guy and says, “Fu*k you and your people, for bombing Pearl Harbor!”
The Korean guy is like, “WTF?! That wasn’t us. That was the Japanese!”
The Jewish guy: “Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese… you’re all the same.”
After a few minutes and another beer, the Korean guy turns to the Jewish guy and says, “Fu*k you and your people for sinking the Titanic!”
The Jewish guy: “Huh? They ran into an iceberg…”
Korean guy: “Iceberg, Goldberg, Steinburg, you’re all the same.”
First he asks the Palestinian what he would like.
Palestinian: I'd like a glass of water please.
Bartender: We'll have to charge you for that, but ok.
Then he asks the Syrian.
Syrian: I'd like a glass of orange juice.
Bartender: If we have any, I'll pour you a glass.
Next he asks the Lebanese and American. The Lebanese asks for a glass of red wine, and the American orders a beer.
Finally the bartender gets to the Jew and asks "what can I get you?" The Jew quickly answers "give me theirs."
A highly organized ethnic cabal aggressively lobbying their host nation (to which they’re “solely loyal”) on behalf of a foreign supremacist ethnostate which is currently administering a Hungerplan on a helpless civilian population doesn’t sound like something that an “Protestant assimilated” group which is “More Christian than the Christians”* would do. It just sounds like good old fashioned, dual ethics, Old Testament behavior to me.
* https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-this-house-we-believe-the-protestant-roots-of-wokeness/
Yeah, but in the clip Stewart goes on to complain about getting yelled at for being mildly pro-Israel. As if the power Zionists exert doesn’t completely blow away any power in anti-Zionists.
There’s no power equivalency: the Zionists, for now, have overwhelming power.
There’s no moral equivalency: the Palestinians have the moral high ground.
In absolute terms though, and with a longer perspective, that Palestinian "high ground" is hardly above sea level itself.
No one is clean in this conflict. A good reason to stay the Hell out of it. That should be our course of action, but it is denied to us because of the earlier point you made:I can't argue with that.Replies: @Anon
Because, as a maestro of wry detachment, Mr. Sailer can always say that he was joking?
That’s how Jon Stewart seems to be playing it. He even balanced the joke with a bit about being an accused “Hamas supporter.”
The punch line is tossing it over your shoulder and getting back to other stuff.
That’s really hilarious Jon Leibovitz (and Steve Sailer).
Actually, it’s disgusting.Replies: @Corvinus
This is the dumbest take ever — that the power of the Jewish Lobby just comes from the totally organic arguments of the individual Jews totalling 2% of the population.
The Zionists are vastly outnumbered by people who either would like to have democratic control of their own country or who don’t like murdering babies. Anti-genocide people have all the legal and moral arguments in their favor and will go all day long against the Zionists without ever getting “exhausted.” The only issue is whether platforms will let them.
The Israel/Jewish Lobby wins for one reason only — they buy both candidates in every race. They buy every platform and they buy every pundit. Those who can’t be bought are throttled as an “anti-Semite.” What’s Yiddish for “plata or plomo?”
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
Although there are other reasons as well (i.e. Christian Evangelicals don't need to be bought), in general, you're right. In the end it's all about money and organized Jewry has made sure that the Beltway is drowning in it.
That is a Labour issue, not a voter issue.
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense “anti-semite” claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong – Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza – not even fringe candidates. Strange – it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way – who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)
I'm afraid your demographic information is out of date and incorrect. As of 2021, Rochdale was 43% non-white and 36% of the population were Muslim, with only a small percentage of Hindus.
Coincidentally, Rochdale's most recent contribution to the national discourse was the presence of a child sex abuse gang which exploited at least 50 white girls. The local police initially failed to investigate properly for fear of appearing "racist"
But what's actually "sad" here is that this issue has any salience in a British election. The Jewish-Arab blood feud over this patch land in the Middle East has utterly zero relevance to the actual interests of the British people--or the broader West.
Sure--being a decent human--I wish it was not going on. And if I had the proverbial magic wand, I'd wave it to get everyone over there sorted into coherent--and plausibly viable--nation states. Jews here, Palestinian Arabs there, Maronites here, Shia there, Sunni here, Kurds there, Alawites here ... right on down to the Druze. But honestly, yet more blood in the sand is irrelevant to the West.
In contrast Britain is being invaded--right now. While Jews and Arabs over there have zero chance of dying out, the West is being outright genocided by immivasion before our very eyes.
Israel, Gaza, Zionism, Jews, Arabs should be irrelevant in a British election. The focus of this--or any other--British election should be the survival of and welfare of the actual British people and nations--the English, the Scots, the Welsh. "Britonism"
And hardly anyone needs to be pro-HAMAS to win in Britain. The "Conservatives" have quite thoroughly failed to conserve anything (sound familiar?) and are heading for a drubbing that has nothing to do with Gaza.
But let’s get another article blaming those dang Yankee WASPs again, eh, Steve?
Or how Biden is really totally competent, you guys, and he’s totally in charge.
Or new one: an explanation of how Mossad Fed JackD’s comments get approved at lightning fast speeds so he can muck up comment sections with his lies to disinform, demoralize, and derail.
Well, I have slightly different take – I’ve always maintained that support for Israel (or pro-Jewish policies domestically) is neither the product of some sort of a pan-Jewish cabal nor entirely “organic,” but rather the result of a mechanism similar to “price leadership” among gas stations that ends up creating a cartel-like pricing through voluntary adherence to leadership (elite) position.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768
I think it is even more explanatory for the broader minoritarian agenda, than for Israel itself. As Jews made their long march through American institutions they bent the ideological environment--"Of course, American history is a history of whites oppressing minorities". "Of course, the core purpose of government is to protect minorities." "Of course, immigration is good for America." "Of course, nationalism is bad--and low class."
My take is that we now--through elite media and academic institutions--have essentially a de-nationalized "Judeacized" elite. Gone is the old WASP pride and patriotism in America's history, people, culture, achievements, the sense of ownership and stewardship to steer nation carefully and prudently. Especially stewardship with any sort of noblesse oblige "lift up all boats" concern for the actual American people and "our posterity".
While there's been a lot of "price leadership" on Israel as well that effort has also involved bags of money tossed around by AIPAC and especially the threat to throw a lot of money and support to opponents of any politician who dares stray. Since Israel is a fringe issue that--at least in the old America--only mattered to Jews, this policy is extremely effective.
I think you should assume JFK did not hold the belief you hold when he nevertheless denied the Israel donor community their wish to exempt Israel from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and that he knew he was making powerful enemies. Had he lived to the next election he may well have found out their response and he likely wouldn’t be pleased about it. Some think he did learn their response.
Philippe Lemoine’s suggestions of two possible avenues of Jewish influence on their host societies “leave very much to be desired.”
Mr. Lemoine says Jewish influence on a Western host-society seems to be:
(1.) Piles of money to “buy people off”; and/or
(2.) Groups of Jews and their allies shouting at people who speak up against what the the Jews and their ethno-state are doing (aggression, bullying, humiliation, and massacres of Palestinians, measurable in piles of bodies into the tens of thousands; comparable proportionally to if Mexico terror-bombed White America, with hundreds of thousands regularly killed and millions of White Americans cumulatively killed by Mexican bullets and bombs in easy memory, and tens of millions living in enclosed ghettos patrolled by armed Mexican thugs).
The pair of those two choices is weak, I’d say, because it ignores the ideological.
Jews and pro-Jewish allies have successfully created, managed, and maintained an ideological superstructure in the West that gives special status to Jews. Imagine if South African Whites had had the power to stage huge-scale arrests and ruin the lives of anti-Apartheid protestors in the 1980s! Such a power — as we’ve seen in practice, with the thousands of pro-Palestine protestors scooped up, jailed, fired, and expelled from schools — is something explainable only by ideology. No amount of White South African money in the 1980s could have done that.
(P.S., note to Steve Sailer: please cover the South Africa election, especially eliciting expert opinion from the Sailertariat about the prospects of the white Freedom Front Plus party.)
I find it funny that Philippe Lemoine completely fails to mention this. Especially because he describes himself as, quote, “technically a philosopher.”
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
As am I. Technically.
Blackmail is why they're all scared. Pictures of them doing unseemly and illegal things. That's why we're all in this predicament.
Every special interest aims to do just that. So why can’t the Anti Israel/Anti Jew Lobby get its shit together and fight it out on those terms? This is like whining that the Yankees and Dodgers sign all the free agents, or that Alabama gets all the 5-star recruits. Go make some money and buy some influence. Or run for something and don’t be bought
There's a section in the political graveyard for all the politicians who bucked the Israel Lobby.Replies: @Wielgus
The Jewish oligarchs (Rothschilds, Epstein, Maxwell, etc.) exercise control through sexual blackmail.
Here’s how it works.
Let me repost an interesting theory that I have. If you want to understand how the world really works, watch these scenes from Godfather 2.
In this first clip, Senator Pat Geary insults Italian-American gangster Michael Corleone, telling him that he loathes Italians and the corruption that they have brought to America. Later, in the sample clip, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a Corleone-owned brothel. A Corleone mafia family associate then shows up, offering to make this go away. Watch below.
Afterward, Senator Geary becomes a huge friend to the Corleone family, helping them out in any way he can. In this third clip, Geary effusively praises Italians (despite holding private animosity towards their ethnicity). He pours cold water onto the Senate’s investigation of the Italian-American mafia families.
My theory is this.
See more below.
If you substitute in Jews for Italians, the above scenes offer a pretty realistic look at how the American political system works. Shady Jewish hustlers are sexually blackmailing White Gentile elites on an absolutely EPIC scale. Just look at what a staggering fraction of American elites, as well as elites in the UK and various other foreign countries, were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.
The reality is that there are a lot of shady Jewish businessmen, like Epstein. These guys have access to prostitutes, cash, and drugs. So they run huge blackmail operations that target prominent politicians, media personalities, judges, corporate leaders, bureaucrats, entertainers, military/intel officers, and other men of power & influence.
They seduce prominent men into incriminating themselves in some way (sexually, financially, etc), then hold the evidence as a form of blackmail over their target.
U.S. leaders are nothing more than puppets of Jewish pimps. So they see nothing contradictory between condemning White supremacy in America, but also supporting American genocide in Iraq AND Israeli genocide in Palestine. They just do as told. There is absolutely ZERO ideological or moral framework to structure their actions.
By the way, Epstein already had a few mansions (NYC, South Florida, New Mexico) to use as brothels. Ever wonder why Epstein needed a private island that was so far away from home? It was because when they needed to arrange a dead hooker situation, they needed a place where they could dispose of bodies without anyone seeing anything. They needed a place that was unpopulated and remote.
There was an ambulance on the island. Why was there an ambulance? There was no hospital on the island, so what was the ambulance for? My guess is that the ambulance was used to transfer dead bodies.
Here’s what Courtney Love’s father Hank Harrison said about his daughter, who helped traffic prostitutes to Epstein.
Courtney Love may trafficked girls to Epstein. According to her father (Hank Harrison), Epstein often disposed of “worn out” prostitutes. Here’s the exact quote from his Facebook page.
A cinematic example of political sexual blackmail growing less tame over time is From Hell, theorizing that the basis of the Jack the Ripper murders was covering up heterosexual missionary position sex. By the turn of the century (at least in Vienna) this has progressed to homosexuality. Now we have children nervously jerking away from the current president on C-Span. As far as the acceleration, that's not related, it's a side effect from other programs.
First of all, Epstein and Maxwell weren't blackmailing anyone, certainly not for Israel. Epstein was not even particularly a fan of Israel, having only visited for the first time in 2008 and deriding the idea of living there after his visit.
Secondly, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, kooks.
Third, Epstein was having nothing to do with underage girls after his arrest in 2006. Like almost anyone in such a position, he was scared straight after spending a year in jail.
Fourth, Courtney Love had no personal connection to Epstein and no one serious thinks that Epstein murdered anyone.
I see from Google that you've pushing this conspiracy theory for years. It's nonsense.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Curle
“since most people don’t really care about the Israeli- Palestinian conflict”
Yeah. I get why Faiza cares – she’s a foreigner- but why would a person whose ancestors came from Europe like Philippe care if a bunch of Muslims get killed by Jews on the other side of the world? Does he have money riding on this or something?
One might as well be a Frenchman collecting Jews and delivering them to be shipped East.
(Shrugs) 'I just put the Jews on the trains. What the Germans do with them when they get to their destination isn't my affair.'
Israel is finished.
Boomer Americans are the only ones still buying what they’re selling because Israel owns the politicians and the mainstream media.
But nobody younger than 65 watches television news or believes what the newspapers print.
Everyone else in the world sees the truth. When stupid, brainwashed boomer Americans are out of power Israel is going to have to answer to something resembling the truth.
Not getting the Joke? I’m not sure I get it either. Is it kind of like that Norm Macdonald SNL news bit where he describes Marlon Brando’s anti-semitic accusation that the Jews control Hollywood, his subsequent retracti0n and the announcement by ADL that Brando could now be employed again in Hollywood?
“It’s a bit of a bore being a Jew at Grossinger’s”
– Philip Roth
(Grossinger’s was a Jewish-clientele resort not far from New York City.)
Good point. A lot of people know they’ll be in for it if they say anything — so they just avoid the subject.
It’s a kind of soft censorship. You have to really care to be willing to risk the flak.
Here's how it works.
Let me repost an interesting theory that I have. If you want to understand how the world really works, watch these scenes from Godfather 2.
In this first clip, Senator Pat Geary insults Italian-American gangster Michael Corleone, telling him that he loathes Italians and the corruption that they have brought to America. Later, in the sample clip, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a Corleone-owned brothel. A Corleone mafia family associate then shows up, offering to make this go away. Watch below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtFKXaltKY
Afterward, Senator Geary becomes a huge friend to the Corleone family, helping them out in any way he can. In this third clip, Geary effusively praises Italians (despite holding private animosity towards their ethnicity). He pours cold water onto the Senate’s investigation of the Italian-American mafia families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-GwYPf4AE
My theory is this.
See more below.
If you substitute in Jews for Italians, the above scenes offer a pretty realistic look at how the American political system works. Shady Jewish hustlers are sexually blackmailing White Gentile elites on an absolutely EPIC scale. Just look at what a staggering fraction of American elites, as well as elites in the UK and various other foreign countries, were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.
The reality is that there are a lot of shady Jewish businessmen, like Epstein. These guys have access to prostitutes, cash, and drugs. So they run huge blackmail operations that target prominent politicians, media personalities, judges, corporate leaders, bureaucrats, entertainers, military/intel officers, and other men of power & influence.
They seduce prominent men into incriminating themselves in some way (sexually, financially, etc), then hold the evidence as a form of blackmail over their target.
U.S. leaders are nothing more than puppets of Jewish pimps. So they see nothing contradictory between condemning White supremacy in America, but also supporting American genocide in Iraq AND Israeli genocide in Palestine. They just do as told. There is absolutely ZERO ideological or moral framework to structure their actions.
By the way, Epstein already had a few mansions (NYC, South Florida, New Mexico) to use as brothels. Ever wonder why Epstein needed a private island that was so far away from home? It was because when they needed to arrange a dead hooker situation, they needed a place where they could dispose of bodies without anyone seeing anything. They needed a place that was unpopulated and remote.
https://am21.mediaite.com/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-12-at-12.22.38-PM.png
There was an ambulance on the island. Why was there an ambulance? There was no hospital on the island, so what was the ambulance for? My guess is that the ambulance was used to transfer dead bodies.
https://twitter.com/hollywood2pt0/status/1743143819296526641
Here's what Courtney Love's father Hank Harrison said about his daughter, who helped traffic prostitutes to Epstein.
Courtney Love may trafficked girls to Epstein. According to her father (Hank Harrison), Epstein often disposed of “worn out” prostitutes. Here's the exact quote from his Facebook page.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Jon Tormento, @Roger
So that’s why liberals have loosened sexual morals so much over the last 60 years: so they could blackmail more powerful people!
Various ways. There are various ways. Another is to bash a nonviolent college student in the head with a 2�4. Another is to shoot a Jew’s eye out of her head with a targeted teargas canister, even though she was actually not an anti-Zionist. Another way is to shoot an American in the face at point blank range four times. And there are more …
Hmmm……
What is up with Namibia and Botswana? Notice how much that map looks like this one except for those two, Italy, and the Balkans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South
What are the chances that map is based on real data?Replies: @Ralph L, @Crawfurdmuir
Here's how it works.
Let me repost an interesting theory that I have. If you want to understand how the world really works, watch these scenes from Godfather 2.
In this first clip, Senator Pat Geary insults Italian-American gangster Michael Corleone, telling him that he loathes Italians and the corruption that they have brought to America. Later, in the sample clip, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a Corleone-owned brothel. A Corleone mafia family associate then shows up, offering to make this go away. Watch below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtFKXaltKY
Afterward, Senator Geary becomes a huge friend to the Corleone family, helping them out in any way he can. In this third clip, Geary effusively praises Italians (despite holding private animosity towards their ethnicity). He pours cold water onto the Senate’s investigation of the Italian-American mafia families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-GwYPf4AE
My theory is this.
See more below.
If you substitute in Jews for Italians, the above scenes offer a pretty realistic look at how the American political system works. Shady Jewish hustlers are sexually blackmailing White Gentile elites on an absolutely EPIC scale. Just look at what a staggering fraction of American elites, as well as elites in the UK and various other foreign countries, were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.
The reality is that there are a lot of shady Jewish businessmen, like Epstein. These guys have access to prostitutes, cash, and drugs. So they run huge blackmail operations that target prominent politicians, media personalities, judges, corporate leaders, bureaucrats, entertainers, military/intel officers, and other men of power & influence.
They seduce prominent men into incriminating themselves in some way (sexually, financially, etc), then hold the evidence as a form of blackmail over their target.
U.S. leaders are nothing more than puppets of Jewish pimps. So they see nothing contradictory between condemning White supremacy in America, but also supporting American genocide in Iraq AND Israeli genocide in Palestine. They just do as told. There is absolutely ZERO ideological or moral framework to structure their actions.
By the way, Epstein already had a few mansions (NYC, South Florida, New Mexico) to use as brothels. Ever wonder why Epstein needed a private island that was so far away from home? It was because when they needed to arrange a dead hooker situation, they needed a place where they could dispose of bodies without anyone seeing anything. They needed a place that was unpopulated and remote.
https://am21.mediaite.com/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-12-at-12.22.38-PM.png
There was an ambulance on the island. Why was there an ambulance? There was no hospital on the island, so what was the ambulance for? My guess is that the ambulance was used to transfer dead bodies.
https://twitter.com/hollywood2pt0/status/1743143819296526641
Here's what Courtney Love's father Hank Harrison said about his daughter, who helped traffic prostitutes to Epstein.
Courtney Love may trafficked girls to Epstein. According to her father (Hank Harrison), Epstein often disposed of “worn out” prostitutes. Here's the exact quote from his Facebook page.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Jon Tormento, @Roger
That’s not sexual blackmail per se, that’s blackmail regarding freaking murder.
A cinematic example of political sexual blackmail growing less tame over time is From Hell, theorizing that the basis of the Jack the Ripper murders was covering up heterosexual missionary position sex. By the turn of the century (at least in Vienna) this has progressed to homosexuality. Now we have children nervously jerking away from the current president on C-Span. As far as the acceleration, that’s not related, it’s a side effect from other programs.
I don’t get it either. Sailer has been repeating this line for years and I still don’t get it. In fact, I don’t even know what the actual “joke” is. (If someone does, can they please state what it is and explain how to get it.)
Steve misuses the expression "not getting the joke" every single time he uses it.
For someone with such an excellent grasp of the English language and its humorous asides it's jarring to see him repeatedly do this in spite of the fact that he MUST know nobody else uses that expression the way that he does.
If he ever comes on my podcast this will be the single relentless subject of conversation. I assume he'll retaliate with a prepared speech on golf course architecture but I'm willing to take that chance.
Just because someone can do something doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. “Hey, Communists can stage a revolution and send their enemies to gulags, so you should just stop complaining and start your own gulag.”
In any event, I am just saying that people should simply notice the Lobby exists. Whereas Steve keeps running these posts with a heavy-handed moral that “Jews don’t have any common interests or special institutional power or influence, they’re just average Joes acting as isolated individuals. It’s the Protestants you have worry about.”
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
I’m sorry but if you are pro Hamas you are either stupid or evil, possibly both.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/Replies: @Roderick Spode
You made a comment about three weeks ago that every decade has an identifiable style. I can definitely see that but not for the last three decades. However, last week a new Billie Eilish video, Lunch, came out and numerous people said it had a retro nineties style. I didn’t even know there was such a thing as a retro nineties style.
Yeah. I get why Faiza cares - she's a foreigner- but why would a person whose ancestors came from Europe like Philippe care if a bunch of Muslims get killed by Jews on the other side of the world? Does he have money riding on this or something?Replies: @Colin Wright
‘Or something’ would fit. We’re paying for it, supplying the bombs, and generally making it possible.
One might as well be a Frenchman collecting Jews and delivering them to be shipped East.
(Shrugs) ‘I just put the Jews on the trains. What the Germans do with them when they get to their destination isn’t my affair.’
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
What are they afraid of? How do you explain it.
Good point. It’s a testament to the Zionists’ remarkable domination of the public discourse (and ultimately of Gentile and Jewish minds alike).
Boomer Americans are the only ones still buying what they're selling because Israel owns the politicians and the mainstream media.
But nobody younger than 65 watches television news or believes what the newspapers print.
Everyone else in the world sees the truth. When stupid, brainwashed boomer Americans are out of power Israel is going to have to answer to something resembling the truth.Replies: @Anonymous, @bigdicknick
One day, inshallah, it may have to answer to something resembling Justice.
Didn’t Steve used to insinuate (months ago) that Biden was perfectly autonomous and no one was influencing him?
Or how Biden is really totally competent, you guys, and he's totally in charge.
Or new one: an explanation of how Mossad Fed JackD's comments get approved at lightning fast speeds so he can muck up comment sections with his lies to disinform, demoralize, and derail.Replies: @Anonymous, @Arnold
There’s no conspiracy. It seems that certain commenters with a proven track record are posted automatically. I don’t think Steve is especially ideological about who qualifies. Yes, even Corvinus may be qualified to auto post. Others pass through Steve’s filter, which can be whimsical. Certain posts with certain key words are automatically flagged for extra scrutiny before being posted. Just a guess.
https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/596/124/843/dog-german-shepherd-using-computer-image-wallpaper-preview.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Renard
Let those who hate Jack utilize the same strategy! Steve has shown over the course of many years that his concept of loyalty is the opposite of Trump's - he doesn't demand it, he gives it. Unz is quite insane yet Steve doesn't say anything against him. Taki truncates every one of Steve's articles so that people end up seeing his grotesque advertisements as they scroll down looking for the rest of the Steve's articles and Steve denies Taki's wrongdoing.
Morality is a complex issue but in a world that has denied Steve his due on account of his Tourettes/Autism for saying things that make others uncomfortable he has every right to be kind to his friends.Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
You’ll lose, that’s why. It just happened to some orthodox liberal up around Portland. One of our senators squeaked about it briefly, but now he’s clammed up.
There’s a section in the political graveyard for all the politicians who bucked the Israel Lobby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Tonge,_Baroness_Tonge
She seems to have represented a rather old-fashioned strain of British Liberalism that denounced injustice on foreign shores. It basically cost her a political career.Replies: @Gandydancer
Here's how it works.
Let me repost an interesting theory that I have. If you want to understand how the world really works, watch these scenes from Godfather 2.
In this first clip, Senator Pat Geary insults Italian-American gangster Michael Corleone, telling him that he loathes Italians and the corruption that they have brought to America. Later, in the sample clip, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a Corleone-owned brothel. A Corleone mafia family associate then shows up, offering to make this go away. Watch below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtFKXaltKY
Afterward, Senator Geary becomes a huge friend to the Corleone family, helping them out in any way he can. In this third clip, Geary effusively praises Italians (despite holding private animosity towards their ethnicity). He pours cold water onto the Senate’s investigation of the Italian-American mafia families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-GwYPf4AE
My theory is this.
See more below.
If you substitute in Jews for Italians, the above scenes offer a pretty realistic look at how the American political system works. Shady Jewish hustlers are sexually blackmailing White Gentile elites on an absolutely EPIC scale. Just look at what a staggering fraction of American elites, as well as elites in the UK and various other foreign countries, were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.
The reality is that there are a lot of shady Jewish businessmen, like Epstein. These guys have access to prostitutes, cash, and drugs. So they run huge blackmail operations that target prominent politicians, media personalities, judges, corporate leaders, bureaucrats, entertainers, military/intel officers, and other men of power & influence.
They seduce prominent men into incriminating themselves in some way (sexually, financially, etc), then hold the evidence as a form of blackmail over their target.
U.S. leaders are nothing more than puppets of Jewish pimps. So they see nothing contradictory between condemning White supremacy in America, but also supporting American genocide in Iraq AND Israeli genocide in Palestine. They just do as told. There is absolutely ZERO ideological or moral framework to structure their actions.
By the way, Epstein already had a few mansions (NYC, South Florida, New Mexico) to use as brothels. Ever wonder why Epstein needed a private island that was so far away from home? It was because when they needed to arrange a dead hooker situation, they needed a place where they could dispose of bodies without anyone seeing anything. They needed a place that was unpopulated and remote.
https://am21.mediaite.com/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-12-at-12.22.38-PM.png
There was an ambulance on the island. Why was there an ambulance? There was no hospital on the island, so what was the ambulance for? My guess is that the ambulance was used to transfer dead bodies.
https://twitter.com/hollywood2pt0/status/1743143819296526641
Here's what Courtney Love's father Hank Harrison said about his daughter, who helped traffic prostitutes to Epstein.
Courtney Love may trafficked girls to Epstein. According to her father (Hank Harrison), Epstein often disposed of “worn out” prostitutes. Here's the exact quote from his Facebook page.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Jon Tormento, @Roger
Idiotic.
First of all, Epstein and Maxwell weren’t blackmailing anyone, certainly not for Israel. Epstein was not even particularly a fan of Israel, having only visited for the first time in 2008 and deriding the idea of living there after his visit.
Secondly, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, kooks.
Third, Epstein was having nothing to do with underage girls after his arrest in 2006. Like almost anyone in such a position, he was scared straight after spending a year in jail.
Fourth, Courtney Love had no personal connection to Epstein and no one serious thinks that Epstein murdered anyone.
I see from Google that you’ve pushing this conspiracy theory for years. It’s nonsense.
are you a hamas recruiter?
What’s English for “plata or plomo?”
Yes.
Well, you almost got it!
- Philip Roth
(Grossinger’s was a Jewish-clientele resort not far from New York City.)Replies: @kaganovitch
The very buckle of the Borscht Belt.
I’m missing something, and so is just about every commenter on this thread so far, though not in the same sense of “missing.”
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we’re not allowed to talk about them!
Here’s Nicholas Stix on December 18, 2014:Or maybe that doesn’t work so well for hospitals and refugee camps?Replies: @Catdompanj
Yes there are a few stupid White Evangelical Christians around. I think they are getting some of their money from Jewish sources. These people (Evangelical Christians) actually literally believe in the old Bible stories. Imagine that. Some stone age superstitious group residing in the Middle east a long, long time ago have got some modern European people to believe that a Hebrew tribal God bestowed the land of Palestine to the current Israelites. And now the Israelites are finishing up that job. WTF!
This is both bigger and smaller than it looks.
Bigger because Faiza Shaheen fought a big campaign in 2019 in Chingford that almost toppled the incumbent Tory and has been nursing this seat since. She could well bleed a fair few votes if she stood as an independent.
Demographic change has meant this once solidly Tory seat in the London suburbs is due to go Labour. Indeed in 2019 if Labour hadn’t been pounded it was expected to lose here. Someone who was a Tory campaigner in the seat said this was the hardest work they ever did in a campaign.
The seat is expected to be a headline seat in that it has been represented by two prominent right wing Tories over the past five decades, with the probably outgoing MP being the former leader and former welfare minister whose time in government cut Britain’s once endemic high unemployment rate in a time of austerity through various workfare programmes. That tough love is unpopular with the left and he will be a big scalp. Putting that at risk is a big deal.
Smaller than it looks in that Labour’s leadership has wanted to purge the hard left that they correctly blame for the previous general election pounding (the pro Europeans were also a problem, but that’s a different story).
The main place it’s been shown has been the quiet business of candidate selection. Left wingers simply didn’t get on party shortlists for vacant seats and this has only been noticed by political anoraks (as obsessives are known in the UK) but this has had a massive effect on the shape of the incoming parliamentary party.
I saw a report showing Shaheen as the only hard left Labour candidate who was in place for a winnable seat which shows both she was well dug in and also had a target on her back.
There was a largely symbolic blocking of the former leader Jeremy Corbyn for standing based on some supposedly anti Semitic comments he made. It was a set up but it signalled the party was no longer hard left. After that another prominent left wing MP Dianne Abbott had the same treatment. Corbyn has announced he will stand again and has a good chance of winning but this is a massive signal to low information swing voters that Labour’s not his party anymore.
It must be said that Israel is very much an excuse here. The signal that these possible candidacies are sending to their former traditional white working class constituency is invaluable. The hard left who you grew to hate and who at best patronised you are no longer in charge.
Very, very recently there has been a culling of lower profile hard left MPs on very dubious grounds. There’s a small window at the moment where the Labour machine can deny renomination to MPs by forcing shortlists on constituency parties without the names of the MP on it. Usually that’s very rare and non political, and is because of a long standing investigation like in the cases above.
But there’s been a smattering of them now, with one MP being dropped because of some old sexual harassment claim that was resurrected for this window of opportunity. There are a few others but they’re for whatever can be trawled up.
Labour are making a lot of calculations based on the idea they’re heading for a landslide and so they think most of these MPs won’t make a difference to these seats and even if they do they can afford to drop a couple of seats as they’re due a huuge majority.
Shaheen is part of this opportunistic purge even though not an MP.
The Israel Palestine war is an excuse here not the reason. It’s come up a few times because hard left types care about it, but even Jewish Labour types (and Jewish voters are far more right leaning here than in the US) tend to be on the Labour side of the fence. And the sheer importance of the Muslim vote to Labour means that Labour (and the Tories for that matter) is less tied to Israel than either parties in the US.
Why can’t it be both?
Our Muslim politicians who hate America wouldn’t have to drop out of a race for that.
Wonder if the most Unziest of the Men of Unz, Jack D himself, will comment on this and if he does if he takes the predictable tactic of pretending to not be able to see that in mainstream society jews tend to on the whole be massively hypocritical towards anyone criticizing any bad thing that Israel does.
Also he’ll have a high chance of whining for the thousandth time about the MEN OF UNZ despite being the most Unzist of all the many Men of Unz in terms of being somebody who will never shut up about the same obnoxious rhetoric and dubious commentary on the same pet topic over and over again. He has literally millions of words of comments on this site over tens of thousands of comments in the same annoying Men of Unz style he criticizes others for but never admits this obvious truth.
Gee, I hope nothing's happened to him.
A Pictorial Guide to the iSteve Commentariat:
https://i.ibb.co/6t8w9BG/men-of-unz.jpgReplies: @Hunsdon
Here's how it works.
Let me repost an interesting theory that I have. If you want to understand how the world really works, watch these scenes from Godfather 2.
In this first clip, Senator Pat Geary insults Italian-American gangster Michael Corleone, telling him that he loathes Italians and the corruption that they have brought to America. Later, in the sample clip, Senator Pat Geary is caught with a dead hooker at a Corleone-owned brothel. A Corleone mafia family associate then shows up, offering to make this go away. Watch below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtFKXaltKY
Afterward, Senator Geary becomes a huge friend to the Corleone family, helping them out in any way he can. In this third clip, Geary effusively praises Italians (despite holding private animosity towards their ethnicity). He pours cold water onto the Senate’s investigation of the Italian-American mafia families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-GwYPf4AE
My theory is this.
See more below.
If you substitute in Jews for Italians, the above scenes offer a pretty realistic look at how the American political system works. Shady Jewish hustlers are sexually blackmailing White Gentile elites on an absolutely EPIC scale. Just look at what a staggering fraction of American elites, as well as elites in the UK and various other foreign countries, were sexually blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.
The reality is that there are a lot of shady Jewish businessmen, like Epstein. These guys have access to prostitutes, cash, and drugs. So they run huge blackmail operations that target prominent politicians, media personalities, judges, corporate leaders, bureaucrats, entertainers, military/intel officers, and other men of power & influence.
They seduce prominent men into incriminating themselves in some way (sexually, financially, etc), then hold the evidence as a form of blackmail over their target.
U.S. leaders are nothing more than puppets of Jewish pimps. So they see nothing contradictory between condemning White supremacy in America, but also supporting American genocide in Iraq AND Israeli genocide in Palestine. They just do as told. There is absolutely ZERO ideological or moral framework to structure their actions.
By the way, Epstein already had a few mansions (NYC, South Florida, New Mexico) to use as brothels. Ever wonder why Epstein needed a private island that was so far away from home? It was because when they needed to arrange a dead hooker situation, they needed a place where they could dispose of bodies without anyone seeing anything. They needed a place that was unpopulated and remote.
https://am21.mediaite.com/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-12-at-12.22.38-PM.png
There was an ambulance on the island. Why was there an ambulance? There was no hospital on the island, so what was the ambulance for? My guess is that the ambulance was used to transfer dead bodies.
https://twitter.com/hollywood2pt0/status/1743143819296526641
Here's what Courtney Love's father Hank Harrison said about his daughter, who helped traffic prostitutes to Epstein.
Courtney Love may trafficked girls to Epstein. According to her father (Hank Harrison), Epstein often disposed of “worn out” prostitutes. Here's the exact quote from his Facebook page.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Jon Tormento, @Roger
Interesting theory, but we do not have the proof that Epstein was blackmailing anyone, and certainly not proof of wider conspiracies.
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
My impression is that most of the big contributors to ‘Christians United for Israel,’ for example, are Jews. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Until now, the Jews have been able to shut down most criticism. The Gaza War has opened them up to new criticism.
They say such people exist. But I doubt they have much money or influence except insofar as they are conduits for the actual Jewish Lobby. Mike Johnson is a Creationist who thinks Adam and Eve were riding around on dinosaurs 8,000 years ago. But I think he really found his Zionist religion when he got $500K from AIPAC.
Is there any reliable data on this supposed demographic of Christian Zionists?
Another big reason, no one cares about goatfuckers killing each other.
If you wanna talk about American tax revenue being used to blow up innocent people on the other side of the planet, well, that didn’t just start on October 7th.Replies: @Roderick Spode
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
I don’t understand what you mean by the comparison to price leadership. Could you please explain this in more depth?
Silver or lead. As in, “you can either take our silver and do our bidding, or we can give you an injection of lead.” It’s the cartel version of “carrots and sticks.”
Yeah, Bibi is both, for sure.
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
“Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one”
I’m afraid your demographic information is out of date and incorrect. As of 2021, Rochdale was 43% non-white and 36% of the population were Muslim, with only a small percentage of Hindus.
Coincidentally, Rochdale’s most recent contribution to the national discourse was the presence of a child sex abuse gang which exploited at least 50 white girls. The local police initially failed to investigate properly for fear of appearing “racist”
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
Here is the definition of a cabal according to Wikipedia: “A cabal is a group of people who are united in some close design, usually to promote their private views or interests in an ideology, a state, or another community, often by intrigue and usually without the knowledge of those who are outside their group. ”
The only thing that would make what we see NOT a cabal is that they are doing it with the full knowledge of those who are outside the group. We’ve seen it all the past eight months. It started when guys like Joel Pollak and Ben Shapiro immediately started parroting Israeli lies about what happened on October 7th and it hasn’t stopped. The Washington Post just ran an article about rich Jews trying to convince the mayor of NYC to crack down on people protesting the Israeli genocide, offering him “donations” and even to pay people to “assist” the NYPD. We saw these same rich Jews pay Israeli thugs to beat up protestors at UCLA. We saw them make blacklists and get university presidents fired. They work with the ADL/AIPAC/WJC and whenever those organizations demand policy from Congress, they get it – TikTok ban, more money for the genocide, an antisemitism bill that hands the power to define the word to another group of Jews, so on and so on.
There’s really no need to overthink this and for some reason Sailer very much wants us to think it’s just a bunch of individuals coincidentally demanding the same thing, but, again, they’re doing all this out in the open. They’re not hiding it so why should I pretend not to see it?
I can’t wait for the American Germany Public Affairs Committee (AGPAC) to bring balance to the force.
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
But those same Christians lose on just about every other issue they push. Outside of shilling for Israel, they are pretty much untouchables to the media and elites. They can’t even get one of their own on the Supreme Court, and they represent a large part of the nation, and a far larger portion than Jews.
If that’s the intended joke, it doesn’t work here. The punchline of Norm’s joke showed the Jews did in fact have the real power to decide who could work.
But in the Jon Stewart skit the Jews are merely kevetching.
In the skit, Stewart also shows supporters of Palestine kvetching. So it’s a wash. Any blame on the Zionists is canceled out. What can we all do but shrug or throw up our hands at the whole situation?
Didn’t you just read? We’re not allowed to talk about this! He says so right there!
Also he'll have a high chance of whining for the thousandth time about the MEN OF UNZ despite being the most Unzist of all the many Men of Unz in terms of being somebody who will never shut up about the same obnoxious rhetoric and dubious commentary on the same pet topic over and over again. He has literally millions of words of comments on this site over tens of thousands of comments in the same annoying Men of Unz style he criticizes others for but never admits this obvious truth.Replies: @JimDandy, @Stan Adams
Men of Unz need merch.
Are you saying that the Israelis who have been killing Palestinians are goatfuckers?
See #2 (?), still Whimmed as I type this one 7.2 hours later.
In this instance, you are killing the “goatfuckers.” Most people try to not take human life, especially innocent human life.
I wouldn’t wish that even on the children of the African piece of shit who assaulted and permanently injured me.They’re CHILDREN, you Fatmerican fucks.Fatmericans like Redneck Genocider are going to be in for a rude awakening when their country collapses into violence and disorder and the rest of the world fucking laughs — or sends even more firearms and explosives to accelerate the slaughter. Having watched American “tough guys” murder, maim, traumatize, and displace so many women and children in their own aggressive wars, thousands of miles from US borders, the rest of the world will think “Who cares what happens to a bunch of ass-fuckers?”And another, more serious rude awakening when Fatmerican fucks like “Redneck Farmer” have to explain themselves to God.FREE PALESTINE.
To Hell with “Redneck Farmer”, that evil scumbag, and those like him.
Literally.Replies: @Mike Tre
See #2 (?), still Whimmed as I type this one 7.5 hours later.
Or how Biden is really totally competent, you guys, and he's totally in charge.
Or new one: an explanation of how Mossad Fed JackD's comments get approved at lightning fast speeds so he can muck up comment sections with his lies to disinform, demoralize, and derail.Replies: @Anonymous, @Arnold
Or Boston Brahmins or Pilgrims or some other gaslighting bullshit. Anyhoo, here’s another post about a tall golfer/quarterback/backerball player I once saw. Send money. Buy my book.
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
If only this good at Noticing or dissembling, I’d go back to whitewashing and brazenness.
Here’s Nicholas Stix on December 18, 2014:
Or maybe that doesn’t work so well for hospitals and refugee camps?
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
For regular voters, his support for the IRA was probably a much bigger millstone around his neck than anything to do with Israel.
I agree. There are plenty of filthy rich Muslims and Arabs in the Middle East and around the world. If Western politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, which seems to be the case, especially in the USA, then why can’t Muslims and Arabs buy them up? I can see an analogy with football teams in the UK. Tottenham Hotspur are famously Jew owned but haven’t had much success because the Jews aren’t that wealthy. But Kuwaitis bought into Manchester City and they’ve won pretty much everything for the last several seasons.
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
As much as I resent Jewish power in the U.S. (probably not enough for some, I’m sure), I’m still definitely not on the side of Islamic terrorists.
Maybe you are against any form of terror, independently of who is terrorizing whom?Larry Johnson has an interesting collection of data wrt Hamas, courtesy of the Israeli Government:https://sonar21.com/the-hard-facts-about-palestinian-terrorism-debunk-western-narrative/Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @duncsbaby
Keep breeding Whites to be a bunch of stupid normies who love football, beers,bible and celebs gossips…
Reality check.
Right wingers are like orcs. Remove an object if hate (People of Colour, women, children, homosexuals, animals) and they will turn on each other.
Now you know how Pontius Pilate felt…
Matthew 27
20 But the chief [Jewish] priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
21 “Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.
“Barabbas,” they answered.
22 “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.
They all answered, “Crucify him!”
23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.
But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
Someone should make a movie.Replies: @Roderick Spode, @36 ulster, @Ex Machina
The auto approval process is determined by the highest standards of integrity, honesty, and transparency: The ones with auto approval send Steve money.
I don’t understand why people here thought Sailer was ever a man of principle? He has made it very clear multiple time that he wants money, he writes safe and dull stuff that never gets close to criticizing those that rule.
I’m pretty sure Steve trained Lambo to do it, and the dog has been approving comments. That’s why the process seems odd.
I can detect a dog’s judgement, because you see, I am Buzz’s dog. He trained me and made me his ghost writer a while back. That’s why his comments have gotten strange. And you thought he was drunk, LOL! That was my invention.
It’s a dog’s world, and you just live in it. Jews are not God’s chosen. Dogs are. You live to serve us, give us food and shelter and take care of us. Remember, Dog is God spelled backwards.
I think this is it, 192. I don’t comment all that prolifically, but I’ve been commenting, on and off, for years here, and I don’t think I’ve ever been whimmed, or even delayed.
There's a section in the political graveyard for all the politicians who bucked the Israel Lobby.Replies: @Wielgus
On Airstrip One there is Corbyn of course, but here is another victim of the Lobby:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Tonge,_Baroness_Tonge
She seems to have represented a rather old-fashioned strain of British Liberalism that denounced injustice on foreign shores. It basically cost her a political career.
Liberals are merely the Handmaidens of the 300 who run the world.
There’s no power equivalency: the Zionists, for now, have overwhelming power.
There’s no moral equivalency: the Palestinians have the moral high ground.Replies: @Jamess, @Mr. Anon
In relative terms and for the time being it certainly looks like it.
In absolute terms though, and with a longer perspective, that Palestinian “high ground” is hardly above sea level itself.
Would you be less concerned if they were, to use a random example, Hindu terrorists?
Maybe you are against any form of terror, independently of who is terrorizing whom?
Larry Johnson has an interesting collection of data wrt Hamas, courtesy of the Israeli Government:
https://sonar21.com/the-hard-facts-about-palestinian-terrorism-debunk-western-narrative/
https://sonar21.com/update-on-israeli-statistics-re-palestinian-attacks-on-israelis-and-foreigners/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
Thanks Twinkie, you’re “price leadership” analogy is helpful for thinking about this.
I think it is even more explanatory for the broader minoritarian agenda, than for Israel itself. As Jews made their long march through American institutions they bent the ideological environment–“Of course, American history is a history of whites oppressing minorities”. “Of course, the core purpose of government is to protect minorities.” “Of course, immigration is good for America.” “Of course, nationalism is bad–and low class.”
My take is that we now–through elite media and academic institutions–have essentially a de-nationalized “Judeacized” elite. Gone is the old WASP pride and patriotism in America’s history, people, culture, achievements, the sense of ownership and stewardship to steer nation carefully and prudently. Especially stewardship with any sort of noblesse oblige “lift up all boats” concern for the actual American people and “our posterity”.
While there’s been a lot of “price leadership” on Israel as well that effort has also involved bags of money tossed around by AIPAC and especially the threat to throw a lot of money and support to opponents of any politician who dares stray. Since Israel is a fringe issue that–at least in the old America–only mattered to Jews, this policy is extremely effective.
Also he'll have a high chance of whining for the thousandth time about the MEN OF UNZ despite being the most Unzist of all the many Men of Unz in terms of being somebody who will never shut up about the same obnoxious rhetoric and dubious commentary on the same pet topic over and over again. He has literally millions of words of comments on this site over tens of thousands of comments in the same annoying Men of Unz style he criticizes others for but never admits this obvious truth.Replies: @JimDandy, @Stan Adams
It’s 10:09 a.m. Eastern time on May 31 … 76 comments have been posted and Jack D has yet to make an appearance.
Gee, I hope nothing’s happened to him.
A Pictorial Guide to the iSteve Commentariat:
He was talking about Jews Steve when conveying his theory, not liberals. Heck you can’t even use their name. Btw who owns porn hub Steve-o?
Matthew 27
20 But the chief [Jewish] priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
21 “Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.
“Barabbas,” they answered.
22 “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.
They all answered, “Crucify him!”
23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.
But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”Replies: @AnotherDad, @Renard
It’s a great scene. The colonial administrator whose job is really just to collect taxes and keep the peace, realizing he’s involved in some local political bullshit, that he does not understand and frankly strikes him as nuts, just gives in “Ok yokels … have it your way.”
Someone should make a movie.
https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0?feature=shared&t=145
Here’s Nicholas Stix on December 18, 2014:Or maybe that doesn’t work so well for hospitals and refugee camps?Replies: @Catdompanj
What’s Nick’s take on the Liberty?
Hmmm......Replies: @AceDeuce, @res
Should we call the people in the red countries “Honkees”?
I remember reading years ago that, in Japan, honking your car horn unless absolutely necessary was against the law.
Others behave differently. I have two solutions.
Solution 1 is a hornometer. Each year, when you renew your registration, the DMV reads your hornometer and charges you five dollars a honk. Maybe it could be a sliding scale. Honk one is free. Honk two is a dollar...
Solution 2 is more fun. One out of every ten thousand vehicles is wired so that if you honk the horn, it blows up.
“The Israel/Jewish Lobby wins for one reason only — they buy both candidates in every race.”
Although there are other reasons as well (i.e. Christian Evangelicals don’t need to be bought), in general, you’re right. In the end it’s all about money and organized Jewry has made sure that the Beltway is drowning in it.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
AIPAC ain’t OPEC
How does that work? Loosening morals just extends the limits of what is acceptable. Oscar Wilde’s life was destroyed over his homosexuality. Fast forward a century and the career of an open homosexual like Ian McKellen has probably been advanced by his homosexuality.
Same principle as in pouring out chum behind a fishing boat. Or maybe like smack dealers handing out weed. The point is that the further people get from being tethered to moral norms, the easier it is to trap them in evil debauchery.
And while norms were shifting in culture broadly speaking, the subset who vote and the subset who vote Republican shift slower. Politicians like Lindsey Graham are particularly vulnerable to pictures of them with men, let alone underage men or women.
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
“The of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians”
Yes there are a few stupid White Evangelical Christians around. I think they are getting some of their money from Jewish sources. These people (Evangelical Christians) actually literally believe in the old Bible stories. Imagine that. Some stone age superstitious group residing in the Middle east a long, long time ago have got some modern European people to believe that a Hebrew tribal God bestowed the land of Palestine to the current Israelites. And now the Israelites are finishing up that job. WTF!
Hmmm......Replies: @AceDeuce, @res
I think there are different definitions of “honking common.” The one in the map probably deals more with what I call “driving with the horn.”
What is up with Namibia and Botswana? Notice how much that map looks like this one except for those two, Italy, and the Balkans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South
What are the chances that map is based on real data?
in the American Southamong Southerners, honking is reserved for when you see someone you know.You guys are making a big deal about Jews shutting down debate on Israel kicking ass in a war they didn’t start, and I admit, it’s not a good look.
But have you considered the flip side of the issue, i.e. why does the world get its panties in a twist when Israel does this, but multiple other recent examples of non-jews doing equivalent things in the middle east elicit a collective snore?
P.S. It continues to be fascinating to see police in the US recovering their balls when it comes to dealing with current peaceful protests. The contrast with events during the Floyd "mostly peaceful protests" is illuminating.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Erik L
You can take any position you want, however, on current wars anywhere else in the world, in Sahel, Myanmar, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., and not be in fear of losing you and your family's liberty, prosperity, reputation.
Current wars:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg/1024px-Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg.pngReplies: @Erik L, @YetAnotherAnon
What does that make those who helped create Hamas?
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
What I said was that Hamas shouldn't be supported, whether that's by Netanyahu's government or by anti-Zionist anons on the internet.Replies: @res
A big part of the concern, I think, arises from the fact that the US is supporting and funding the killing. The US has chosen sides, and is complicit in not only allowing it to continue, but making it possible for it to continue.
Morals haven’t been loosened on male heterosexual behavior. Just the opposite. Witness #Metoo.
With the result being that the Zionists get to continue their genocidal ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, without diminution of the flow of weapons and political support from the United States.
That’s really hilarious Jon Leibovitz (and Steve Sailer).
Actually, it’s disgusting.
Have you anyways supported the Palestinians, or is it now just convenient for you to do so?
It’s similar to how corporations come out of the woodwork to vocally support a cause…when they were silent on it for quite some time.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Anonymous
The execrable genocide-defender Dave Ramsey is one such wealthy “evangelical” christian who slavishly supports “israel” no matter how many women and children and old people it intentionally murders (likely over 100,000 murdered women and 100,000 murdered children, already, since the set-up Hamas-and-IDF attack on the ”concertgoers” on October 7, 2023).
“Evangelicals” like Ramsey will find that when they die, their dead jewish hero won’t save them from the justice of God for their loud-and-proud support of starving, torturing, degrading, carpet-bombing, and terrorizing several million civilians on the civilians’ own land.
That Fatmerican motherfucker is going to Hell, with his IDF child-murdering friends.
I don’t think Redneck has a say on how his tax dollars are used. Perhaps you think he should stop paying taxes and go to prison.
If you wanna talk about American tax revenue being used to blow up innocent people on the other side of the planet, well, that didn’t just start on October 7th.
Many people like to think in terms of good guys versus bad guys but it is not so simple in real life. Sometimes it is just one group of bad guys versus another group of bad guys. Putin is an authoritarian dictator and Zelensky is too. Israelis oppress Palestinians but if the Palestinians were on top they would do the same thing to the Israelis.
Washington said in his farewell address we should have commercial connections with other countries but little in the way of political connections. We should avoid entangling alliances that would draw us into foreign wars. The government should be focused on affairs here at home
You want to deprive corrupt DC denizens of their foreign cash streams?
"This government should be focused on affairs here at home."
Given the focus of the Obama clique that manages the Executive for an interlocking cabal of Western and Chinese corporatists/financialists I'd rather they take a permanent vacation. Their dreams of divinty are harshing my mellow.
Explain that hateful nonsense to God when you meet Him.
I wouldn’t hesitate to speak out against torture, against terrorizing and murdering masses of women and children and the elderly, carpet-bombing homes, hospitals, schools, places of worship and refugee camps, and STARVING other human beings to an agonizing slow death. Even when they are from cults I don’t belong to (e.g. judaism, christianity, islam). Even when they are from racial or ethnic groups whom I wouldn’t want in my country in numbers.
Because even in this sinful, violent world, some few things must be beyond the pale of very minimal decency and compassion.
Almost nobody in the world will care about ignorant vicious Fatmerican fucks like you getting killed or terrorized or starving as the USA breaks down, either.
FREE PALESTINE. Stop urging indifference to the intentional torture and starvation of innocent people in their own countries. Stop urging decent people to join you in turning a blind eye to the use of OUR tax dollars and OUR uniformed thugs to protect and aid the murderers of children.
The Jewish guy turns to the Korean guy and says, "Fu*k you and your people, for bombing Pearl Harbor!"
The Korean guy is like, "WTF?! That wasn't us. That was the Japanese!"
The Jewish guy: "Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese... you're all the same."
After a few minutes and another beer, the Korean guy turns to the Jewish guy and says, "Fu*k you and your people for sinking the Titanic!"
The Jewish guy: "Huh? They ran into an iceberg..."
Korean guy: "Iceberg, Goldberg, Steinburg, you're all the same."Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @36 ulster
A Palestinian, a Syrian, a Lebanese, an American, and a Jew are sitting at a bar when the bartender finally comes to take their orders.
First he asks the Palestinian what he would like.
Palestinian: I’d like a glass of water please.
Bartender: We’ll have to charge you for that, but ok.
Then he asks the Syrian.
Syrian: I’d like a glass of orange juice.
Bartender: If we have any, I’ll pour you a glass.
Next he asks the Lebanese and American. The Lebanese asks for a glass of red wine, and the American orders a beer.
Finally the bartender gets to the Jew and asks “what can I get you?” The Jew quickly answers “give me theirs.”
Someone should make a movie.Replies: @Roderick Spode, @36 ulster, @Ex Machina
THANK YOU. “Redneck Farmer” — if he is a white redneck and not a zionist here to distract and deceive — is a willfully ignorant, needlessly vicious Fatmerican fuck who will deserve no help or sympathy when his time comes. His hatred of Muslims, or Arabs, is so overpowering and blinding that he cannot even muster a word against blowing children to pieces and torturing their families to death by starvation.
He is so vile that he has to call the victims — many of them children — “goatfuckers” during their time of enforced starvation, agony, and terror.
In large part, THAT’s the “civilized” “first world” West now.
Not even the children of the “israeli” murderers deserve that kind of torture and degradation and pain.
I wouldn’t wish that even on the children of the African piece of shit who assaulted and permanently injured me.
They’re CHILDREN, you Fatmerican fucks.
Fatmericans like Redneck Genocider are going to be in for a rude awakening when their country collapses into violence and disorder and the rest of the world fucking laughs — or sends even more firearms and explosives to accelerate the slaughter. Having watched American “tough guys” murder, maim, traumatize, and displace so many women and children in their own aggressive wars, thousands of miles from US borders, the rest of the world will think “Who cares what happens to a bunch of ass-fuckers?”
And another, more serious rude awakening when Fatmerican fucks like “Redneck Farmer” have to explain themselves to God.
FREE PALESTINE.
To Hell with “Redneck Farmer”, that evil scumbag, and those like him.
Literally.
You forgot black women’s hair, though I’m not sure that black women aren’t being used as proxies for another group of women with frizzy hair, fish lips, and bad noses.
also, is it ‘sexual morals’ or ‘sexual mores’? or does it matter? or both?
To find the distinction, put it this way: there are, so to speak, a species of "sexual mores" in the Castro. But there are no "sexual morals" there.
O tempora! O mores! does not mean, O the times, o the morals! -- it means, O the times! O the manners!/customs/ways.
First, I don’t think Steve’s response above really hits the mark in so far as it assumes that the same Jews who influenced culture for the worse cared about the impact of their efforts on Jewish sexual blackmail operations. But they might as well have anyway.
Same principle as in pouring out chum behind a fishing boat. Or maybe like smack dealers handing out weed. The point is that the further people get from being tethered to moral norms, the easier it is to trap them in evil debauchery.
And while norms were shifting in culture broadly speaking, the subset who vote and the subset who vote Republican shift slower. Politicians like Lindsey Graham are particularly vulnerable to pictures of them with men, let alone underage men or women.
One of the most powerful sources of Jewish influence in this country is comprised of well-to-do Evangelical Christians. Oh, but we're not allowed to talk about them!Replies: @Colin Wright, @OilcanFloyd, @Greta Handel, @europeasant, @tomv
Who’s disallowing you? I literally hear about these fabled Christian Zionists every time Zionism gets to be a little too embarrassing for garden-variety Zionists, and this time is no exception.
Anti-Zionists play this game, too, in fact. They (Jews and gentiles alike) seem downright relieved to be able to direct their ire at non-Jews, even if only for a moment. It’s taxing having the charge of antisemitism hanging over you, and obviously nobody is afraid of being called anti-Evangelical.
It’s so convenient. So transparent. If Christian Zionists didn’t exist, somebody would have to invent them.
PS You’re usually more reasonable than this, Mr. Stix. That comment is more worthy of Jack D.
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
Why is that sad? I get that no one patriotic wants to see candidates in its elections dicked around by the partisans of some foreign nation. (It annoys me here in the USofA.)
But what’s actually “sad” here is that this issue has any salience in a British election. The Jewish-Arab blood feud over this patch land in the Middle East has utterly zero relevance to the actual interests of the British people–or the broader West.
Sure–being a decent human–I wish it was not going on. And if I had the proverbial magic wand, I’d wave it to get everyone over there sorted into coherent–and plausibly viable–nation states. Jews here, Palestinian Arabs there, Maronites here, Shia there, Sunni here, Kurds there, Alawites here … right on down to the Druze. But honestly, yet more blood in the sand is irrelevant to the West.
In contrast Britain is being invaded–right now. While Jews and Arabs over there have zero chance of dying out, the West is being outright genocided by immivasion before our very eyes.
Israel, Gaza, Zionism, Jews, Arabs should be irrelevant in a British election. The focus of this–or any other–British election should be the survival of and welfare of the actual British people and nations–the English, the Scots, the Welsh. “Britonism”
I think strictly speaking your statement is correct, but big donors are small percent of CUFI budget. Per littlesis trawl through 990 database from 2012-2022 around half of big donors were Jewish foundations/families. However this is far less than %10 of CUFI’s budget. The vast majority of CUFI’s income is grass roots Evangelical donations. It is true, though, that long time Executive Director of CUFI, David Brog, is Jewish. He is no longer ED but retains a prominent role in the org.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/Replies: @Roderick Spode
I’m aware of these facts. They have no bearing on what I said.
What I said was that Hamas shouldn’t be supported, whether that’s by Netanyahu’s government or by anti-Zionist anons on the internet.
If you are going to pass moral judgment at least try to be consistent.
As a historical note, Hamas was started with Israel's support in 1987.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policyThe Prime Minister of Israel in 1987 was Yitzhak Shamir. Why are you blaming this on "Netanyahu's governement"?
P.S. History like this is a good response to those who claim Israel has been trying to work towards a two state solution.Replies: @Ralph L, @Roderick Spode
Jews appear to have reached the limit of their still-powerful influence, in part as an unforeseen consequence of their own subversion programs, plus their impoverishment scheme. The boomers who think Jews are magic saw a tremendous objective material improvement in living standard, partly from Jewish achievement. The younger people who reject Israeli lies are also being asked to work like slaves for less money than previous generations, are getting locked out of work and housing, may be priced out of cars, and are subjected to increasing preventable violence. Maybe “anti-Semitism” never existed and the Jews are being judged on their merits.
What is up with Namibia and Botswana? Notice how much that map looks like this one except for those two, Italy, and the Balkans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South
What are the chances that map is based on real data?Replies: @Ralph L, @Crawfurdmuir
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in the American Southamong Southerners, honking is reserved for when you see someone you know.Bibi is a politician of whom it can be said that he has a decent amount of natural charisma but not much of a heart. He’s very like Trump in that respect.
A lot of Israelis I know deeply dislike him, but I’m not convinced that the opposition party would run things much differently if they were in power instead.
One interesting thing about Netanyahu is that his underlings, people like Bezalel Smotrich, are even worse than he is. Boy oh boy do liberal-leaning Israelis hate Smotrich.
But also: no Israeli wants to get murdered in his or her home by his or her neighbors, which imo is a reasonable thing for a human being to expect.
Ilana Mercer recently wrote that the average Israeli had settled, pre-Oct. 7, into a state of deep, fatigue-driven denial about the Arab issue. In my experience speaking to Israelis (which I myself am not, btw) Ilana’s take is dead on the money.
If you lived in Israel, if your whole family lived there, if you didn’t have citizenship of another state and were basically stuck there, how would you see yourself feeling about the whole thing?
You mean if I was an Israeli Christian? Well, I'd probably be sick of Jews spitting on me. And I would oppose the slaughter/starvation/etc. of Palestinian babies, and they'd have more of my sympathy than Jews who were "stuck" on ill-gotten land. My point was that Bibi was a passionate advocate for Hamas specifically because their leadership would make peace/support for a two-state solution less likely.Replies: @Roderick Spode
To you on your usual browser it looks like your comment posted immediately. But others may not see it until Steve approves it. If you want to check, use your browser’s “incognito” mode.
They would do much worse than merely “oppress”, as we saw last October 7 during the few hours that Palestinians really had a free hand.
In that case don’t you see a “pending moderation” (or similar) statement on the comment?
That’s what I see when I post on columns that require approval; I’ve never seen it here. I don’t hold myself out as hip to all the technologies, though.
The Jewish guy turns to the Korean guy and says, "Fu*k you and your people, for bombing Pearl Harbor!"
The Korean guy is like, "WTF?! That wasn't us. That was the Japanese!"
The Jewish guy: "Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese... you're all the same."
After a few minutes and another beer, the Korean guy turns to the Jewish guy and says, "Fu*k you and your people for sinking the Titanic!"
The Jewish guy: "Huh? They ran into an iceberg..."
Korean guy: "Iceberg, Goldberg, Steinburg, you're all the same."Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @36 ulster
Eisberg? Eisenberg?
Someone should make a movie.Replies: @Roderick Spode, @36 ulster, @Ex Machina
Preferably not Quentin Tarantino. Ridley Scott is getting up there in years. And it seems that all the French directors have gone. Perhaps James Cameron’s ex-missus?
palestinian?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=&mid=44641AB4FBEE3E53862D44641AB4FBEE3E53862D&FORM=SPSCRV
Someone should make a movie.Replies: @Roderick Spode, @36 ulster, @Ex Machina
You mean like the guards at the end here?
If you wanna talk about American tax revenue being used to blow up innocent people on the other side of the planet, well, that didn’t just start on October 7th.Replies: @Roderick Spode
This was supposed to be a reply to comment #63. My bad.
Why should that have surprised anyone? The former leader Jeremy Corbyn took a stand on Palistinian rights and as a result is was deposed and is not being allowed even to stand as a Labour candidate by current leader Keir Starmer.
Why does Faiza Shaheen care about Gaza? For the same reason that Jewish people care about Israel.. And those of us without a dog in the fight and obeying modern Western (Kantian) morality are compelled to care about both, and must not care about what happens to us for acting on, even allowing others to articulate, our concerns for those hardest done by at the moment.
I think it was in What Makes Sammy Run that a character says ‘Why should I stick my neck out like a giraffe?
They do indeed. As Enoch Powell once said: “Destiny consists of minding our own business”. Leave criticizing Israel to Jewish lefties.
Probably the only time we’ll agree so let’s celebrate it!
Steve misuses the expression “not getting the joke” every single time he uses it.
For someone with such an excellent grasp of the English language and its humorous asides it’s jarring to see him repeatedly do this in spite of the fact that he MUST know nobody else uses that expression the way that he does.
If he ever comes on my podcast this will be the single relentless subject of conversation. I assume he’ll retaliate with a prepared speech on golf course architecture but I’m willing to take that chance.
My assumption is that Jack has donated to Steve so, in gratitude, Steve lets him through unvetted.
Let those who hate Jack utilize the same strategy! Steve has shown over the course of many years that his concept of loyalty is the opposite of Trump’s – he doesn’t demand it, he gives it. Unz is quite insane yet Steve doesn’t say anything against him. Taki truncates every one of Steve’s articles so that people end up seeing his grotesque advertisements as they scroll down looking for the rest of the Steve’s articles and Steve denies Taki’s wrongdoing.
Morality is a complex issue but in a world that has denied Steve his due on account of his Tourettes/Autism for saying things that make others uncomfortable he has every right to be kind to his friends.
But have you considered the flip side of the issue, i.e. why does the world get its panties in a twist when Israel does this, but multiple other recent examples of non-jews doing equivalent things in the middle east elicit a collective snore?Replies: @res, @New Dealer, @Renard
My ire is from Israel (and its minions) shutting down debate in the US regarding Gaza. Perhaps you could cite some of those other recent equivalent examples in the US?
P.S. It continues to be fascinating to see police in the US recovering their balls when it comes to dealing with current peaceful protests. The contrast with events during the Floyd “mostly peaceful protests” is illuminating.
And yes, you got me, nowhere in the US has the government conducted an urban warfare campaign that was met with mass protests
I think people get confused because Steve has an MBA so they figure he gave up the MBA path out of principle to write. When let’s be honest he gave it up because he isn’t a 9/5 type guy much less a 7/7 guy.
“technically a philosopher”
As am I. Technically.
What I said was that Hamas shouldn't be supported, whether that's by Netanyahu's government or by anti-Zionist anons on the internet.Replies: @res
You said supporting Hamas was stupid and/or evil. I think it quite relevant to note Israel had a role in creating Hamas. By your reasoning that means the state of Israel is stupid and/or evil.
If you are going to pass moral judgment at least try to be consistent.
As a historical note, Hamas was started with Israel’s support in 1987.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policy
The Prime Minister of Israel in 1987 was Yitzhak Shamir. Why are you blaming this on “Netanyahu’s governement”?
P.S. History like this is a good response to those who claim Israel has been trying to work towards a two state solution.
But have you considered the flip side of the issue, i.e. why does the world get its panties in a twist when Israel does this, but multiple other recent examples of non-jews doing equivalent things in the middle east elicit a collective snore?Replies: @res, @New Dealer, @Renard
Israel’s partisans require us to fund and endorse its wars, and can punish you harshly for publicly opposing them.
You can take any position you want, however, on current wars anywhere else in the world, in Sahel, Myanmar, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., and not be in fear of losing you and your family’s liberty, prosperity, reputation.
Current wars:
And the Beef Supreme Court will uphold the Government's policy!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/graham-phillips-british-reporter-exiled-banking-accounts-frozen-telling-truth/
If you lived in Israel, if your whole family lived there, if you didn’t have citizenship of another state and were basically stuck there, how would you see yourself feeling about the whole thing?
You mean if I was an Israeli Christian? Well, I’d probably be sick of Jews spitting on me. And I would oppose the slaughter/starvation/etc. of Palestinian babies, and they’d have more of my sympathy than Jews who were “stuck” on ill-gotten land. My point was that Bibi was a passionate advocate for Hamas specifically because their leadership would make peace/support for a two-state solution less likely.
Not apparent. Ask him?
“Washington said in his farewell address …”
You want to deprive corrupt DC denizens of their foreign cash streams?
“This government should be focused on affairs here at home.”
Given the focus of the Obama clique that manages the Executive for an interlocking cabal of Western and Chinese corporatists/financialists I’d rather they take a permanent vacation. Their dreams of divinty are harshing my mellow.
Why did he ignore the most important factor–blackmail.
Blackmail is why they’re all scared. Pictures of them doing unseemly and illegal things. That’s why we’re all in this predicament.
What is up with Namibia and Botswana? Notice how much that map looks like this one except for those two, Italy, and the Balkans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South
What are the chances that map is based on real data?Replies: @Ralph L, @Crawfurdmuir
This reminds me of a friend who had a traumatic taxi ride on arriving in a Latin American country. Later at a dinner party hosted by a local associate, my friend remarked on it, and his host replied “In this country we use the horn rather than the brake.”
In 1968, my mother took a frightening ride in a Japanese taxi to meet my father’s Navy ship. She was told later that because driving wasn’t covered by traditional Japanese rules of conduct, they often went berserk. No doubt honking got out of hand and had to be suppressed.
South Korea, on the other hand was out of Mad Max. Maniacal horn honking was the least of it. Crazy cab drivers. A bunch of us would get in while drunk, split into 2 or 3 cabs, and tip them to race each other to our destination. It's a wonder I'm alive,
The Philippines was even more of an adventure, vehicle-wise.
I remember something else. You couldn't buy a car in Tokyo unless you had a garage or a covered space of your own--bought or rented--to park it in when you were home.Replies: @New Dealer
US and Israeli governments are merged at this point. The list of politically acceptable policies in regard to national security remain in place, unfortunately. The most glaring example of this stasis is the strategically stupid policy toward Ukraine/Russia. The American political class view Ukraine as an economic opportunity which parallels the desire of Zionist oligarchs who want to maintain their fiefdom in that tragic land. The US and Israeli relationship is obviously complex but let’s not forget a good deal of it is a criminal enterprise.
I wouldn’t wish that even on the children of the African piece of shit who assaulted and permanently injured me.They’re CHILDREN, you Fatmerican fucks.Fatmericans like Redneck Genocider are going to be in for a rude awakening when their country collapses into violence and disorder and the rest of the world fucking laughs — or sends even more firearms and explosives to accelerate the slaughter. Having watched American “tough guys” murder, maim, traumatize, and displace so many women and children in their own aggressive wars, thousands of miles from US borders, the rest of the world will think “Who cares what happens to a bunch of ass-fuckers?”And another, more serious rude awakening when Fatmerican fucks like “Redneck Farmer” have to explain themselves to God.FREE PALESTINE.
To Hell with “Redneck Farmer”, that evil scumbag, and those like him.
Literally.Replies: @Mike Tre
Rf simply puts the problems and interests of white Americans ahead of all others. That is an absolutely natural position to have.
Americans who put the interests any other group, Pallies included, ahead of their own kind have been brainwashed to be disloyal dupes.
If you care so much about Palestine, go there.
If you care so much about “Israel,” go try get citizenship there you ignorant lackey.Replies: @Mike Tre
Having spent time in Israel (not as a Jew or a valued guest with something to offer) my experience was of a very ugly society with a lot of coarse, dumb, hateful, and extremely tribal people, and I am not at all surprised that they would attempt to genocide the Palestinians. Knowing that the people running the U.S. center our nation around this effort to destroy the Palestinian people and steal their land, while purposely destroying the U.S. at the same time, makes me identify with the Palestinians a bit. I root for anyone who can expose or bloody the nose of the people who are also running and destroying America.
Having said all of that, I'm no fan of Islam, and have no desire to bring in Middle Eastern immigrants of any religion or ethnicity to the U.S., and that includes Christians.Replies: @Greta Handel
OT — Funny thing happened in Mannheim, I’m not seeing my previous attempts to describe it.
1 — A Muslim terrorist attempted to stab people in a square; several people were stabbed.
2 — A German threw himself on the terrorist and held him down.
3 — The police arrived, but this is modern Germany, so they’re Turks or Arabs. They immediately brutally attack the German restraining the terrorist.
4 — The terrorist, freed by this, stabs the police.
5 — An Arab armed security guard turns up and shoots the terrorist.
6 — Mannheim police are dealing with this by blaming the victim and insisting that they acted correctly.
P.S. It continues to be fascinating to see police in the US recovering their balls when it comes to dealing with current peaceful protests. The contrast with events during the Floyd "mostly peaceful protests" is illuminating.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Erik L
Yes, res, it’s all obvious. Thank you.
If you are going to pass moral judgment at least try to be consistent.
As a historical note, Hamas was started with Israel's support in 1987.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policyThe Prime Minister of Israel in 1987 was Yitzhak Shamir. Why are you blaming this on "Netanyahu's governement"?
P.S. History like this is a good response to those who claim Israel has been trying to work towards a two state solution.Replies: @Ralph L, @Roderick Spode
Not much real evidence there, but we know now half our executive branch goes rogue–and not the CIA killing JFK–and most of the government has long been stupid/evil when it comes to the our people’s interests, so why not Mossad? Look at all the people who appeased and aided Iran’s mullahs, from Carter to Bud McFarlane (prompted by Israelis) to BO to Biden.
Anarcho-tyranny is a coin, with two faces. Floydfest was the obverse. #MeToo is the “tails”.
Whimming is the delay.
Just search my history for “blueberries” and “bookmark” — it took months, but the process has all been explained, proven, and even admitted by Mr. Sailer. Based on his opinion of the “quality of commenter [sic],” comments are held back for hours or days, then let through way upthread where they would have been if not throttled, and identifiable only once as a blue tinted New Comment if you’ve already dropped in on the post. So relatively few people see them during the active discussion, and the sleazy trick is thereafter obscured to everyone else.
The only remaining question is … why?
P.S. It continues to be fascinating to see police in the US recovering their balls when it comes to dealing with current peaceful protests. The contrast with events during the Floyd "mostly peaceful protests" is illuminating.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Erik L
I think if you read more carefully you would realize that I was referring to others in the middle east doing things similar to the Gaza invasion, not that people in the middle east were shutting down dissent.
And yes, you got me, nowhere in the US has the government conducted an urban warfare campaign that was met with mass protests
You can take any position you want, however, on current wars anywhere else in the world, in Sahel, Myanmar, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., and not be in fear of losing you and your family's liberty, prosperity, reputation.
Current wars:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg/1024px-Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg.pngReplies: @Erik L, @YetAnotherAnon
right, you can take any position you want, yet mysteriously, pretty much no one in the US takes any position at all on the overwhelming majority of areas in your colored map.
Gee, I hope nothing's happened to him.
A Pictorial Guide to the iSteve Commentariat:
https://i.ibb.co/6t8w9BG/men-of-unz.jpgReplies: @Hunsdon
I’m a little embarrassed that I said “Red Scorpion!” right away.
The problem is tards like you treat any expression of concern as caring more about Palestinians than Americans.
I find him disappointing too. But it’s not true that he “never gets close” to criticizing those who rule. He actually gets very close, albeit much more so in the past than now. He so obviously plays dumb nowadays that it’s kinda pathetic, but I guess he figures he’s earned it, he’s done his bit, and wants to take it easier as he enters the final decades of his life. Easy to criticize it from the outside, but in his shoes maybe your perspective would change too. (Who knows?)
As much as I despise Hamas, I’m still definitely not on the side of the Israeli genocidalists.
* https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-this-house-we-believe-the-protestant-roots-of-wokeness/Replies: @Colin Wright, @JimDandy
I’ve often compared American Jews and Israel to German-Americans and the Third Reich. It’s illuminating.
https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/596/124/843/dog-german-shepherd-using-computer-image-wallpaper-preview.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Renard
Jerry Seinfeld said if you see one life form walking behind another life form while carrying the latter’s poop in a bag, it wasn’t hard to determine which life form was in charge.
I was in Japan in the late 70s/early 80s and people drove fairly quietly and not badly. The horn law was not just on the books, I was told, but diligently enforced as needed, so it worked evidently. The Japanese cabdrivers that I had, like the European ones, were high-end and totally professional. The U.S. back then had blue collar White men taxi drivers who were overall pros, as well. They all left the profession when blacks started to rob and kill them in great numbers.
South Korea, on the other hand was out of Mad Max. Maniacal horn honking was the least of it. Crazy cab drivers. A bunch of us would get in while drunk, split into 2 or 3 cabs, and tip them to race each other to our destination. It’s a wonder I’m alive,
The Philippines was even more of an adventure, vehicle-wise.
I remember something else. You couldn’t buy a car in Tokyo unless you had a garage or a covered space of your own–bought or rented–to park it in when you were home.
"You can do whatever you want, unless someone honks at you."Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
* https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-this-house-we-believe-the-protestant-roots-of-wokeness/Replies: @Colin Wright, @JimDandy
Pretty sure the sheer terror inspired by our president greenlighting WWIII w/Russia will take people’s minds off the genocide in Gaza. Them Israelis, just lucky, I guess.
If not for blackmail, then why all the hidden camera and hundreds of video tapes that were seized by the FBI but the content of which has never been released to the public. I guess those tapes now reside in a warehouse alongside the Ark of the Covenant, body cam tapes from January 6, and Seth Rich’s laptop (which the FBI refuses to release in defiance of court orders).
” is it ‘sexual morals’ or ‘sexual mores’? or does it matter? or both?”
To find the distinction, put it this way: there are, so to speak, a species of “sexual mores” in the Castro. But there are no “sexual morals” there.
O tempora! O mores! does not mean, O the times, o the morals! — it means, O the times! O the manners!/customs/ways.
Getting God’s permission in advance for all of next years lies deceit and fraud can’t hurt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol_Nidre
There’s no power equivalency: the Zionists, for now, have overwhelming power.
There’s no moral equivalency: the Palestinians have the moral high ground.Replies: @Jamess, @Mr. Anon
There is no moral high ground. Hamas are a bunch of bloody-minded killers, who seem little concerned with the well-being of their own people. That doesn’t excuse the Israelis, who are blowing up women and children in a ham-handed effort to hunt down their enemies – enemies they have made through their campaign of slow-motion ethnic cleansing.
No one is clean in this conflict. A good reason to stay the Hell out of it. That should be our course of action, but it is denied to us because of the earlier point you made:
I can’t argue with that.
Once again – the same old refrain:
We have no power in society. And anyone who says otherwise will be crushed!
I’m pretty sure that murdering hookers is still illegal. But I don’t know – maybe in California it’s now only a misdemeanor.
You mean if I was an Israeli Christian? Well, I'd probably be sick of Jews spitting on me. And I would oppose the slaughter/starvation/etc. of Palestinian babies, and they'd have more of my sympathy than Jews who were "stuck" on ill-gotten land. My point was that Bibi was a passionate advocate for Hamas specifically because their leadership would make peace/support for a two-state solution less likely.Replies: @Roderick Spode
Secular Jewish Israelis are certainly tired of being spat on by Haredim, which latter like to call the former “goyim” or “shiksas” and treat them accordingly for the most part.
If you are going to pass moral judgment at least try to be consistent.
As a historical note, Hamas was started with Israel's support in 1987.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policyThe Prime Minister of Israel in 1987 was Yitzhak Shamir. Why are you blaming this on "Netanyahu's governement"?
P.S. History like this is a good response to those who claim Israel has been trying to work towards a two state solution.Replies: @Ralph L, @Roderick Spode
Don’t assume I think the Israelis walk on water 🙂
Maybe you are against any form of terror, independently of who is terrorizing whom?Larry Johnson has an interesting collection of data wrt Hamas, courtesy of the Israeli Government:https://sonar21.com/the-hard-facts-about-palestinian-terrorism-debunk-western-narrative/Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @duncsbaby
Here is Mr. Johnson’s latest (5/31/24) update on the data-set.
https://sonar21.com/update-on-israeli-statistics-re-palestinian-attacks-on-israelis-and-foreigners/
Exactly. Like when taxpayers’ money, instead of minding taxpayers’ own business, somehow end up funding a remote middle eastern war. Can we call it giraffe money?
Let those who hate Jack utilize the same strategy! Steve has shown over the course of many years that his concept of loyalty is the opposite of Trump's - he doesn't demand it, he gives it. Unz is quite insane yet Steve doesn't say anything against him. Taki truncates every one of Steve's articles so that people end up seeing his grotesque advertisements as they scroll down looking for the rest of the Steve's articles and Steve denies Taki's wrongdoing.
Morality is a complex issue but in a world that has denied Steve his due on account of his Tourettes/Autism for saying things that make others uncomfortable he has every right to be kind to his friends.Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
I suspect Steve’s basic humanity is one of the reasons he’s enjoying a bit of a renaissance now.
You can take any position you want, however, on current wars anywhere else in the world, in Sahel, Myanmar, Sudan, etc., etc., etc., and not be in fear of losing you and your family's liberty, prosperity, reputation.
Current wars:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg/1024px-Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg.pngReplies: @Erik L, @YetAnotherAnon
In the UK, if you support Russia to the point of blogging from Donbass, the UK government will freeze your bank accounts, bad news if you have a mortgage to pay.
And the Beef Supreme Court will uphold the Government’s policy!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/graham-phillips-british-reporter-exiled-banking-accounts-frozen-telling-truth/
You are the one supplying billions of dollars of weapons to the Zionist entity for its genocidal ethnic cleansing of Palestine. You are the one blocking every attempt to stop the slaughter through peaceful protest and through the closest thing to a legal system as exists at the international level
If you care so much about “Israel,” go try get citizenship there you ignorant lackey.
Oh that's right, you won't be able to, even if you weren't a childish and emotionally crippled self hating basket case.
No one is clean in this conflict. A good reason to stay the Hell out of it. That should be our course of action, but it is denied to us because of the earlier point you made:I can't argue with that.Replies: @Anon
Not so. Hamas is fighting against the Zionist invasion.
South Korea, on the other hand was out of Mad Max. Maniacal horn honking was the least of it. Crazy cab drivers. A bunch of us would get in while drunk, split into 2 or 3 cabs, and tip them to race each other to our destination. It's a wonder I'm alive,
The Philippines was even more of an adventure, vehicle-wise.
I remember something else. You couldn't buy a car in Tokyo unless you had a garage or a covered space of your own--bought or rented--to park it in when you were home.Replies: @New Dealer
I asked an experienced Euro friend driving me from the airport to our center city demonstration in a West African country to tell me what he’d learned about the informal rules of the road there.
“You can do whatever you want, unless someone honks at you.”
I am on the side of Hamas, if only because the Israelis tell me all Gazans are Hamas.
It's true that Hamas caused 10/7 and that the Israelis caused what led to 10/7, and we can chicken-and-egg this all the way back to the Stone Age. "He started it!" is what children in kindergarten say.
First things first: simple humanity demands that this immediate nonsense stop Right Now. There'll be plenty of time later for unwinding giant balls of string. But right now, innocents are being slaughtered, so: Knock it off.
Period.Replies: @Anonymous, @Hunsdon
Controlling that key-to-world-power area is worth the price. Of course if you want to be selflessly moral, then cut off Israel until it makes a final settlement. I don’t see a path from treating Israel as a human rights violator to solving the pressing problem of replacement immigration, which is the priority.
All that’s necessary (in the sense that the French say “Il est necessaire…” instead of “Il faut…” when appropriate) is to be on the side of Gazans, which is to say, on the side of humanity.
It’s true that Hamas caused 10/7 and that the Israelis caused what led to 10/7, and we can chicken-and-egg this all the way back to the Stone Age. “He started it!” is what children in kindergarten say.
First things first: simple humanity demands that this immediate nonsense stop Right Now. There’ll be plenty of time later for unwinding giant balls of string. But right now, innocents are being slaughtered, so: Knock it off.
Period.
First of all, Epstein and Maxwell weren't blackmailing anyone, certainly not for Israel. Epstein was not even particularly a fan of Israel, having only visited for the first time in 2008 and deriding the idea of living there after his visit.
Secondly, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, kooks.
Third, Epstein was having nothing to do with underage girls after his arrest in 2006. Like almost anyone in such a position, he was scared straight after spending a year in jail.
Fourth, Courtney Love had no personal connection to Epstein and no one serious thinks that Epstein murdered anyone.
I see from Google that you've pushing this conspiracy theory for years. It's nonsense.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Curle
Epstein’s patron and sole “client” as far as anyone can tell, was Leslie Wexner, a Zionist billionaire (who “sold” Epstein a five-story Manhattan townhouse valued at many millions for a dollar).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11029425/Jeffrey-Epstein-boasted-lingerie-mogul-Les-Wexner-gave-Manhattan-townhouse-1.html
Epstein was a “financier” who never seemed to do any financing. Nobody who knew him ever saw him do any actual work. His whole professional career had the appearance of that of a Legend – a persona created by an intelligence agency.
Maxwell was the daughter of a Mossad agent who was so valuable to Israel that his funeral was attended by several former Mossad directors.
One of Epstein’s own employees, who managed his New Mexico estate, said that many of the rooms in that mansion were wired for video and audio surveillance. I believe that Epstein himself bragged about similar capabilities in his New York residence.
US Attorney Alex Acosta testified that he was warned off of prosecuting Epstein because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”.
In short, there are lots of reasons to believe that Epstein/Maxwell were running a blackmail operation, and presumably not just for their own amusement.
And just who would those be? Alex Acosta? Epstein himself?
You are peddling a load of crap.
Who is Jon Tormento?
And why is he peddling said load of crap?
"Epstein was a “currency wizard” who needed constant access to phone and data communication for his financial trading and business transactions".
Maxwell was not the daughter of a Mossad agent and, even if she was, the Mossad just calls up the ninth child of a Mossad agent and says "Got a boyfriend who would make a good agent"? It defies belief.
You claim, falsely, that Alex Acosta "testified" that he was warned off of prosecuting Epstein because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”. In reality, the source of that claim was a "former senior White House official" who was speaking to Vicky Ward at the time she was writing a hitpiece book on the Kushners. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that source was Steve Bannon, who constantly spreads misinformation and is a conspiracy theorist.
You claim, falsely, that one of Epstein's own employees who managed his New Mexico estate said that many of the rooms in that mansion were wired for video and audio surveillance. No employee at the New Mexico estate ever claimed such a thing. I'm guessing you are speaking of Maria Farmer, who didn't manage the New Mexico estate at all, and is a flat out crazy conspiracy theorist who thinks Epstein was a Reptilian.
Yup, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, and kooks, like Steve Bannon.Replies: @Curle, @Mr. Anon
Why do you despise Hamas?
Complicity with Zionism undermines U.S. influence in the Middle East. (It’s not a key-to-world-power area anyways, but let’s assume it is.)
It’s always better to be moral, if you can be. Sometimes—even often—it is in one’s self interest to be so.
But let’s evaluate the situation from the standpoint of the real politik best interests of the American people…
Opposing Zionism would at least give you something to trade with the jews who control US immigration policy. As it stands, you’ve given them everything up front.
The removal of the Zionist entity from the Middle East could also have the effect of incentivizing jews in the United States to care more about their host country. That would seem to point toward immigration restriction. As it stands, they are playing with other people’s money in the United States, with Israel as the ultimate priority and the fall back.
A third thing to consider is that these wars for “Israel” (US aggression against Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran)—in addition to being very costly to the United States—serve to distract the American people from the fact that their own country is being invaded and that they are being replaced. They also tend to create refugees—a lot of them. And for some reason those refugees tend to end up in the United States and Europe. Invade the world (for Zionism). Invite the world. In hock to the word.
For the American people, Zionism is lose-lose-lose-lose-lose-lose.
Strawman, and lies. Try another!
By that metric babies rule America. Mr Seinfeld is witty but wrong (or dishonest).
"You can do whatever you want, unless someone honks at you."Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
I never used the horn in a long SF-Tahoe-Yosemite-Beatty-Vegas-Grand Canyon-Needles-Edwards-San Luis Obispo-SF round trip. You have no idea if the guy who just cut you up has poor impulse control with other things as well.
“An armed society is a polite society”.
I think in fifty years of driving — and for a good deal of that, I drove for a living — I’ve had to honk like maybe twice. I honk and feel good about it maybe twice a year. Like, the light is green. Or that was definitely my right of way, and I just had to slam on the brakes.
Others behave differently. I have two solutions.
Solution 1 is a hornometer. Each year, when you renew your registration, the DMV reads your hornometer and charges you five dollars a honk. Maybe it could be a sliding scale. Honk one is free. Honk two is a dollar…
Solution 2 is more fun. One out of every ten thousand vehicles is wired so that if you honk the horn, it blows up.
That’s really hilarious Jon Leibovitz (and Steve Sailer).
Actually, it’s disgusting.Replies: @Corvinus
“With the result being that the Zionists get to continue their genocidal ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, without diminution of the flow of weapons and political support from the United States.”
Have you anyways supported the Palestinians, or is it now just convenient for you to do so?
It’s similar to how corporations come out of the woodwork to vocally support a cause…when they were silent on it for quite some time.
Have you anyways supported the Palestinians, or is it now just convenient for you to do so?
It’s similar to how corporations come out of the woodwork to vocally support a cause…when they were silent on it for quite some time.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Anonymous
This may be the weakest flak I’ve ever seen tossed over your shoulder. So I searched your archive for “Palestin!”
Like Mr. Sailer and Mr. Stewart here, Corvinus has for years affected a worldwise, balanced detachment about Exceptionalism! generally and Palestine in particular. So apparently it’s a serious problem when people get that joke.
OT but just a wee bit of humanity injected into a culture which is increasingly not human….
Patti Smith, often short-listed for Greatest Person Who Ever Lived, talks about Lou Reed, another item…
And, speaking of greatest persons who ever lived….
https://allpoetry.com/For-Grace,-After-A-Party
Boomer Americans are the only ones still buying what they're selling because Israel owns the politicians and the mainstream media.
But nobody younger than 65 watches television news or believes what the newspapers print.
Everyone else in the world sees the truth. When stupid, brainwashed boomer Americans are out of power Israel is going to have to answer to something resembling the truth.Replies: @Anonymous, @bigdicknick
israel will likely be judged according to the minoritarian inverted morality that jews worked so hard to promote in the US.
That’s pretty much how I feel. The whole situation would just be another dispute between two groups in a foreign land if our government weren’t supporting it and making us pay for it in blood, money, reputation, and God knows what else. Would there even be a “conflict” if the governments of the West hadn’t propped up the Zionists to begin with?
Having spent time in Israel (not as a Jew or a valued guest with something to offer) my experience was of a very ugly society with a lot of coarse, dumb, hateful, and extremely tribal people, and I am not at all surprised that they would attempt to genocide the Palestinians. Knowing that the people running the U.S. center our nation around this effort to destroy the Palestinian people and steal their land, while purposely destroying the U.S. at the same time, makes me identify with the Palestinians a bit. I root for anyone who can expose or bloody the nose of the people who are also running and destroying America.
Having said all of that, I’m no fan of Islam, and have no desire to bring in Middle Eastern immigrants of any religion or ethnicity to the U.S., and that includes Christians.
This is why you’re always stuck in moderation—you make no sense.
It's true that Hamas caused 10/7 and that the Israelis caused what led to 10/7, and we can chicken-and-egg this all the way back to the Stone Age. "He started it!" is what children in kindergarten say.
First things first: simple humanity demands that this immediate nonsense stop Right Now. There'll be plenty of time later for unwinding giant balls of string. But right now, innocents are being slaughtered, so: Knock it off.
Period.Replies: @Anonymous, @Hunsdon
The Palestinians carried out “10/7,” yes. It was an uprising or retaliatory strike. As your very next clause implies, however, the Palestinians did not cause it.
Not really. Jews invaded an inhabited territory with the goal of imposing Jewish supremacy, if not of outright expelling or killing the non-Jewish native population. It doesn’t go back any farther than that in any practicably reasonable sense. The situation is quite clear. It is not a giant ball of string.
Have you anyways supported the Palestinians, or is it now just convenient for you to do so?
It’s similar to how corporations come out of the woodwork to vocally support a cause…when they were silent on it for quite some time.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Anonymous
Ad hominem fallacy.
Show us a big corporation that is supporting the Palestinians.
You are a depraved Zionist.
That seems obvious (though worth calling out). The more interesting questions are:
Who is Jon Tormento?
And why is he peddling said load of crap?
Getting news or opinions from John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher….is like watching South Park or The Simpsons for news or social commentary.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-runs-harvard/#comment-6527768Replies: @Anonymous, @Mycale, @AnotherDad, @OogaBoogaBoo, @Curle
If by pan-Jewish canal you mean AIPAC and its donors, see if you can get a job on Capitol Hill or better yet in political fundraising. It will cure you of your ‘neutral operation of events’ theory very quickly. As it stands it reads like the thinking of a person seeking desperately to imagine the world is a more noble place than it is so you can justify fence sitting, a comfortable position for the time being.
I think you should assume JFK did not hold the belief you hold when he nevertheless denied the Israel donor community their wish to exempt Israel from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and that he knew he was making powerful enemies. Had he lived to the next election he may well have found out their response and he likely wouldn’t be pleased about it. Some think he did learn their response.
You clearly work for Mossad.
First of all, Epstein and Maxwell weren't blackmailing anyone, certainly not for Israel. Epstein was not even particularly a fan of Israel, having only visited for the first time in 2008 and deriding the idea of living there after his visit.
Secondly, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, kooks.
Third, Epstein was having nothing to do with underage girls after his arrest in 2006. Like almost anyone in such a position, he was scared straight after spending a year in jail.
Fourth, Courtney Love had no personal connection to Epstein and no one serious thinks that Epstein murdered anyone.
I see from Google that you've pushing this conspiracy theory for years. It's nonsense.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Curle
There’s some airtight logic! (sarc off)
Definition of a Zionist: A Jewish person who tries to convince another Jewish person to persuade a third Jew to go and live in Israel. Most young Israelis would rather be in LA, or Berlin.
Epstein was most likely Maxwell’s number 2 rather than the opposite as it has been portrayed. Maxwell’s father was an Israeli spy who robbed an UK pension fund and Maxwell’s sister was in business with Bill Gates, you know, the guy who made a fortune off of other people’s technology. The Maxwell/Epstein honey pot operation targeted tech types and had access to royalty. The Feds intervened on Epstein’s behalf with municipal authorities who gave him a slap on the wrist for his initial sex offenses stating he was involved with national security or something government related. Seems the most efficient path here is that the Maxwell/Epstein’s were spying on US tech types for Israel, UK and the US and maybe even tech giants. The arc of this story has similarities to the UK/Clinton effort to gin up Russia Gate in that international spies were working with high level American govt people to pull off the tarring of Trump.
Nothing to see here, move along now please.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/05/31/x-users-required-to-submit-id-to-israeli-firm-allegedly-tied-to-spy-agency/
If you care so much about “Israel,” go try get citizenship there you ignorant lackey.Replies: @Mike Tre
I challenge you to find one post of mine where I ever supported Israel.
Oh that’s right, you won’t be able to, even if you weren’t a childish and emotionally crippled self hating basket case.
Maybe you are against any form of terror, independently of who is terrorizing whom?Larry Johnson has an interesting collection of data wrt Hamas, courtesy of the Israeli Government:https://sonar21.com/the-hard-facts-about-palestinian-terrorism-debunk-western-narrative/Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @duncsbaby
You are right, I don’t like terrorism at all. I’m definitely not a fan of dynamic Islam and it’s introduction to the West, with or without terrorism. Are the Israelis terrorizing Palestinian civilians through bombing? Yes. I don’t support it. I think the GOP in Congress is spectacularly debasing themselves in their slavish devotion to Israel. On the other hand am I siding w/Hamas? No, they’re just as dumb and evil as Israel’s current military campaign.
The current Labour leadership is only there because the pro-israel Lobby kicked out the much loved left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn with total nonsense "anti-semite" claims.
They still owe the pro-Israelis a lot.
Meanwhile in February the very left wing and controversial George Galloway won a bye election by campaigning purely on a Pro-Gaza basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election
He got 39.7%, another independent got 21.3%, the conservative vote droppewd from 21% to 19%, and the Labour vote dropped from 51.6% to just 7.7%. The previous Labour MP had died.
Rochdale is 19% British asian but most will have a Hindi background not a Muslim one (so like Rishi Sunak a man who is suspiciously anti-muslim as are his cabinet).
The Labour candidate, Azhar Ali, started off being pro-Palestine, then both reversed course and then had the Labour party support withdrawn from him.
Very very much Labour shooting itself in its own foot for getting it wrong - Dems may do the same.
Sadly in the July elections very very few candidates dare say they are pro-Gaza - not even fringe candidates. Strange - it is simply the best chance most have.
By the way - who is not PRO Hamas????? Did people only start reading about Palestine only from October?
(and why is it called the al Aqsba flood?)Replies: @Roderick Spode, @Anonymous, @brum, @martin_2, @duncsbaby, @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer
You must be living in a very strange silo is no one there is not pro-HAMAS. And basically no one calls the 10/7 terrorist attacks “the al Aqsba flood”.
And hardly anyone needs to be pro-HAMAS to win in Britain. The “Conservatives” have quite thoroughly failed to conserve anything (sound familiar?) and are heading for a drubbing that has nothing to do with Gaza.
Patti Smith, often short-listed for Greatest Person Who Ever Lived, talks about Lou Reed, another item...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51I1vUfcFdI
And, speaking of greatest persons who ever lived....
https://allpoetry.com/For-Grace,-After-A-PartyReplies: @Richard B
“The whole city was mourning.”
Cringe!
I’d put the chances that the whole of NYC was mourning for Lou Reed somewhere around 1.2 and a half sextillion.
Seriously, what a cringe moment (especially, The boy who made me coffee was crying Yeah, right). Then again, the RRHOF is one protraced cringe moment.
To watch all of these self-important, pseudo-hip fraudsters act more establishment than Bob Hope is enough to make one blush for the species. It definitely exposes them for the pretentious fakes they always were.
If you try to police Patti, or make her follow rules, then you'd never get this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o68h4Usqs
Personally I'd rather have the Krazy-town Brigade than not, all else being equal.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
Stewart kvetches about being interrupted by pro-terrorist types if he even mentions Israel, but that’s only one Jew, not “Jews”. And it’s quite odd that Lemoine attached the clip since HIS whining is about how all his friends are on the other (pro-Israel) side. That is, the clip undermines his written message. Did he not realize this?
Yes, he is saying that, obviously. This is unwise. The question that naturally springs to mind is: What does Redneck Farmer farm? Pigs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Tonge,_Baroness_Tonge
She seems to have represented a rather old-fashioned strain of British Liberalism that denounced injustice on foreign shores. It basically cost her a political career.Replies: @Gandydancer
That’s a nice whitewash. Did you read your link? Tonge said her party was controlled by the pro-Israeli lobby. Unsurprisingly the Lib-Dems didn’t think that someone who talked like that was suitable for their list. Somehow they decided to gift her a seat in the Lords, though. Go figure.
If you can’t criticize a group (beyond the typical tribal pushback), it suggests that the society should separate.
Yeah I’m sure you’re totally right, but it’s just poetic license. You gotta just let Patti do her Patti thing. Better for all concerned.
If you try to police Patti, or make her follow rules, then you’d never get this…..
Personally I’d rather have the Krazy-town Brigade than not, all else being equal.
It was an open-house floor plan, no assigned seating, just a bunch of people crammed into a room. It broke my heart to do this because I had kind of a sense that I would never get to see Patti live again, but she was so absolutely scarifyingly intense that I had to back out of the room and leave for a while and catch my breath, that lady is truly terrifying when she gets into it.
I once wrote a cult comedy sketch a la Michael O'Donoghue, it was a parody of TV kitchen shows, called "Cooking With Patti Smith" that to this day enjoys a certain amount of underground notoriety. It can't be broadcast because of the incredibly vulgar language, so, use your imagination.
Love ya, Trisha.Replies: @Curle
Baby was a black sheep, Baby was a whore,
Baby got big, and ya know she got bigger!
Baby gets something, Baby gets more.
Baby Baby Baby was a Rock N Roll Nigger!
Look around you, all around you,
Riding on a copper wave!
Do you like the world around you?
Are you ready, TO BEHAVE?!!
Jimmy Hendricks, was a nigger,
Jesus Christ, and Grandma, too! [NB I think she means the painter Grandma Moses, but not sure.]
Jackson Pollock, was a nigger,
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!!
Outside of society! That's where I want to be!
Outside of society! They're waiting for me!
Well she could certainly rip it up, she's got that much to say for her.
Commandeur/euse des Arts et des Lettres.
Dig it.
* - "American Artist" dig it, Uncle Jim.
Having spent time in Israel (not as a Jew or a valued guest with something to offer) my experience was of a very ugly society with a lot of coarse, dumb, hateful, and extremely tribal people, and I am not at all surprised that they would attempt to genocide the Palestinians. Knowing that the people running the U.S. center our nation around this effort to destroy the Palestinian people and steal their land, while purposely destroying the U.S. at the same time, makes me identify with the Palestinians a bit. I root for anyone who can expose or bloody the nose of the people who are also running and destroying America.
Having said all of that, I'm no fan of Islam, and have no desire to bring in Middle Eastern immigrants of any religion or ethnicity to the U.S., and that includes Christians.Replies: @Greta Handel
This comment by OilcanFloyd was Whimmed for over a day.
If you try to police Patti, or make her follow rules, then you'd never get this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o68h4Usqs
Personally I'd rather have the Krazy-town Brigade than not, all else being equal.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
I’m rather sorry to say that I only got to see Patti perform live one time, and it was long after her legendary peak insanity, but still… even at her ebb, it was MUCH crazier than people you get to see at their crazy reputation-making peak (Kurt and Courtney had NOTHING on Patti.)
It was an open-house floor plan, no assigned seating, just a bunch of people crammed into a room. It broke my heart to do this because I had kind of a sense that I would never get to see Patti live again, but she was so absolutely scarifyingly intense that I had to back out of the room and leave for a while and catch my breath, that lady is truly terrifying when she gets into it.
I once wrote a cult comedy sketch a la Michael O’Donoghue, it was a parody of TV kitchen shows, called “Cooking With Patti Smith” that to this day enjoys a certain amount of underground notoriety. It can’t be broadcast because of the incredibly vulgar language, so, use your imagination.
Love ya, Trisha.
I realized what I was missing about Sailer’s post shortly after I wrote the one ending “Did he[Lemoine] not realize this?”, but the Unz comment limit caused me to put my acknowledgement of that on the back burner for quite a few hours. The significance of Sailer’s title (“Not Getting the Joke”) had finally registered on me however. For anyone similarly slow to catch on, Sailer’s point was PRECISELY that Lemoine had apparently not registered that Stewart was saying exactly the opposite of what he, Lemoine, was saying, i.e. had not “gotten the joke”.
Leibovitz’s shtick is to register as a caring, just, and wise person, but one who then gets to throw up his hands and do nothing about the situation. It’s like the “liberal” Zionists who express favor for an indefinite “peace process” while their settler brethren gobble up all the remaining Palestinian land (with support from the “democratic” Zionist regime).
I doubt Steve was implying that Lemoine did not get the joke.Replies: @Gandydancer
Nope. Stewart did not “balance” his joke in any fashion. It’s purely making fun of HAMAS supporters who jump down his throat if he even mentions Israel. And what Sailer is noticing is that Lemoine got Stewart’s joke ass-backwards.
…or at least I THOUGHT I understood what SS was saying. But now I can’t make head or tails of this paragraph:
But Stewart in his skit has no opportunity to nor does he attempt to say anything critical of Israel. So I’m back to being confused.
Yup. This’ll happen when you believe obscurants who claim to be joking.
You claim, falsely, that “Nobody who knew him ever saw him do any actual work.” That is not even remotely true. As just one example of many, Epstein spent a small fortune rigging up his island to get a fast internet connection. The contractor said:
“Epstein was a “currency wizard” who needed constant access to phone and data communication for his financial trading and business transactions”.
Maxwell was not the daughter of a Mossad agent and, even if she was, the Mossad just calls up the ninth child of a Mossad agent and says “Got a boyfriend who would make a good agent”? It defies belief.
You claim, falsely, that Alex Acosta “testified” that he was warned off of prosecuting Epstein because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”. In reality, the source of that claim was a “former senior White House official” who was speaking to Vicky Ward at the time she was writing a hitpiece book on the Kushners. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that source was Steve Bannon, who constantly spreads misinformation and is a conspiracy theorist.
You claim, falsely, that one of Epstein’s own employees who managed his New Mexico estate said that many of the rooms in that mansion were wired for video and audio surveillance. No employee at the New Mexico estate ever claimed such a thing. I’m guessing you are speaking of Maria Farmer, who didn’t manage the New Mexico estate at all, and is a flat out crazy conspiracy theorist who thinks Epstein was a Reptilian.
Yup, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, and kooks, like Steve Bannon.
According to the Times of Israel regarding daddy Maxwell:
“Maxwell is buried on Jerusalem’s Mount of Olives. Many members of the Israeli intelligence community attended his funeral. So too did Yitzhak Shamir, Israel’s then-prime minister.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/
Just another pension robbing Israel loyalist with a spy (?) daughter , a boyfriend of the daughter engaging in classic honeypot behavior, Mossad friends at his funeral and another daughter in business with a guy who made his fortune appropriating other people’s technology. Nothing to see here.
You also left out any discussion of the sister who has purported cyber spying problems of her own.Replies: @Steve Floyd
It was an open-house floor plan, no assigned seating, just a bunch of people crammed into a room. It broke my heart to do this because I had kind of a sense that I would never get to see Patti live again, but she was so absolutely scarifyingly intense that I had to back out of the room and leave for a while and catch my breath, that lady is truly terrifying when she gets into it.
I once wrote a cult comedy sketch a la Michael O'Donoghue, it was a parody of TV kitchen shows, called "Cooking With Patti Smith" that to this day enjoys a certain amount of underground notoriety. It can't be broadcast because of the incredibly vulgar language, so, use your imagination.
Love ya, Trisha.Replies: @Curle
For some weird reason DuckDuckGo makes the first two searches of (patti smith and trisha) entries for the singer (who I successfully failed to learn about until now) Patty Smyth. What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warrior_(song)Replies: @Curle
Thanks.
Scandal – The Warrior (Video) ft. Patty Smyth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warrior_(song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6VGHEUkbA
What Stewart/Leibovitz is saying is not the exact opposite. Both complain about getting yelled down by Zionists. Leibovitz also kvetches about getting yelled down by people who support the Palestinians.
Leibovitz’s shtick is to register as a caring, just, and wise person, but one who then gets to throw up his hands and do nothing about the situation. It’s like the “liberal” Zionists who express favor for an indefinite “peace process” while their settler brethren gobble up all the remaining Palestinian land (with support from the “democratic” Zionist regime).
I doubt Steve was implying that Lemoine did not get the joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warrior_(song)Replies: @Curle
Yea. I thought it weird that this one hit wonder would show up ahead of Patti Smith in the search results. Maybe this song was more popular than any of Patti Smith’s output? I find that hard to believe but probably because I was listening to the Modern Lovers, the Ramones, the Replacements, The Beach Boys, Velvet Underground and Elvis Costello during the ‘80s.
If you try to police Patti, or make her follow rules, then you'd never get this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o68h4Usqs
Personally I'd rather have the Krazy-town Brigade than not, all else being equal.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
PATTI: [something psycho-crazy about being a Comanche, then] in heart, I am a Moslem! In heart I am a Moslem, in heart I am an AMERICAN ARTIST!* And I have NO GUILT! I seek pleasure, I seek the nerves under your skin, [rattles on like a maniac while the band raves up behind her, then slips into it with perfect timing]
Baby was a black sheep, Baby was a whore,
Baby got big, and ya know she got bigger!
Baby gets something, Baby gets more.
Baby Baby Baby was a Rock N Roll Nigger!
Look around you, all around you,
Riding on a copper wave!
Do you like the world around you?
Are you ready, TO BEHAVE?!!
Jimmy Hendricks, was a nigger,
Jesus Christ, and Grandma, too! [NB I think she means the painter Grandma Moses, but not sure.]
Jackson Pollock, was a nigger,
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!!
Outside of society! That’s where I want to be!
Outside of society! They’re waiting for me!
Well she could certainly rip it up, she’s got that much to say for her.
Commandeur/euse des Arts et des Lettres.
Dig it.
* – “American Artist” dig it, Uncle Jim.
It’s really none of my business but truth be told I was always a teensy bit annoyed that another artist would glom onto the name Patty Smyth, when Patti already had an established brand. I mean even if that’s her real name, there are still stage names and showbiz names FFS. It seemed kind of uncool. Bowie’s real name was David Jones, but he changed it to the catchier Bowie so as not to be confused with that guy from the Monkees.
“Patti Smith” is the stage name of a woman and poet/musician whose real name is Patricia Smith, but if I understand correctly, “Patti” is a showbiz name, and people in her normal life call her Trisha, or Trish.
She seems like a really regular, very admirable person in real life, when she’s not causing minor nuclear wars on stage. “Just Kids” her memoir, is very engaging reading.
I’m not as confused as you, especially after looking again at the skit and realizing that Stewart is being besieged by pro-Israel and not pro-Hamas supporters. As to your comment, no one “claimed to be joking” and there is not the slightest evidence in my comments that I “believed” anyone. Stewart did a comedy skit which you’ve previously mischaracterized (“Stewart… balanced the joke with a bit about being an accused “Hamas supporter.”” – Which didn’t happen.) and since I misheard the skit (the shouting was largely unintelligible) I thought Sailer was referring to Lemoine not getting that Stewart was picturing something 180 degrees from his, Lemoine’s, complaint. But actually he wasn’t (I just looked at it again), so now I’m back to being confused about Sailer’s title. But your comment is anyway idiocy.
The last time those other people in the skit pop up to shout down Stewart, they are portraying the other side. At this point, he gives up, crumpling his script and tossing it over his shoulder.
The message of the “joke,” and Mr. Sailer’s wryly detached stance, is that both sides are so unreasonable that you should not take either, but move along to Noticing other stuff.
This is propaganda, it has worked on the American people for far too long, and it enables Joe to send those missiles for Nikki to sign before they tear Palestinians to bits.Replies: @Gandydancer
If you want just “Smith” you can add “-Smyth” to your search terms, I’m not sure whether that works on duckduckgo, but it will on Google or (I think) Bing. (Yes, Google is evil and often crap, and I avoid it — my default is duckduckgo — but for some things the alternatives don’t work as well and it’s the way you need to go, in my experience.)
Leibovitz’s shtick is to register as a caring, just, and wise person, but one who then gets to throw up his hands and do nothing about the situation. It’s like the “liberal” Zionists who express favor for an indefinite “peace process” while their settler brethren gobble up all the remaining Palestinian land (with support from the “democratic” Zionist regime).
I doubt Steve was implying that Lemoine did not get the joke.Replies: @Gandydancer
I looked again at the skit and you are right and I was wrong about Stewart’s target
So, what WAS Sailer saying?
But have you considered the flip side of the issue, i.e. why does the world get its panties in a twist when Israel does this, but multiple other recent examples of non-jews doing equivalent things in the middle east elicit a collective snore?Replies: @res, @New Dealer, @Renard
What? No one contested this point? What are the “multiple recent examples” in the middle east of “non-jews” slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent civilians at once?
https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/596/124/843/dog-german-shepherd-using-computer-image-wallpaper-preview.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Renard
If this were true, dogs would be treated well.
Not saying they would rule over us with a cruel iron fist, just that they wouldn’t be mistreated so much.
The Jews are Hamas recruiters–the most effective imaginable–and with enemies like them Hamas needs no friends.
Thank you for this.
Matthew 27
20 But the chief [Jewish] priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
21 “Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.
“Barabbas,” they answered.
22 “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.
They all answered, “Crucify him!”
23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.
But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”Replies: @AnotherDad, @Renard
This part most assuredly never happened.
"Epstein was a “currency wizard” who needed constant access to phone and data communication for his financial trading and business transactions".
Maxwell was not the daughter of a Mossad agent and, even if she was, the Mossad just calls up the ninth child of a Mossad agent and says "Got a boyfriend who would make a good agent"? It defies belief.
You claim, falsely, that Alex Acosta "testified" that he was warned off of prosecuting Epstein because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”. In reality, the source of that claim was a "former senior White House official" who was speaking to Vicky Ward at the time she was writing a hitpiece book on the Kushners. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that source was Steve Bannon, who constantly spreads misinformation and is a conspiracy theorist.
You claim, falsely, that one of Epstein's own employees who managed his New Mexico estate said that many of the rooms in that mansion were wired for video and audio surveillance. No employee at the New Mexico estate ever claimed such a thing. I'm guessing you are speaking of Maria Farmer, who didn't manage the New Mexico estate at all, and is a flat out crazy conspiracy theorist who thinks Epstein was a Reptilian.
Yup, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, and kooks, like Steve Bannon.Replies: @Curle, @Mr. Anon
I’m sure the Mossad is indifferent to their agent’s significant others, right?
According to the Times of Israel regarding daddy Maxwell:
“Maxwell is buried on Jerusalem’s Mount of Olives. Many members of the Israeli intelligence community attended his funeral. So too did Yitzhak Shamir, Israel’s then-prime minister.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/
Just another pension robbing Israel loyalist with a spy (?) daughter , a boyfriend of the daughter engaging in classic honeypot behavior, Mossad friends at his funeral and another daughter in business with a guy who made his fortune appropriating other people’s technology. Nothing to see here.
You also left out any discussion of the sister who has purported cyber spying problems of her own.
That wouldn't even be realistic in a James Bond movie. Being a spy isn't like a family heirloom, passed down generation to generation.
This Epstein spy nonsense is the continuation of a long line of anti-semitic conspiracy theories. The 9/11 hijackers similarly believed that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent and was getting kompromat on Clinton.Replies: @Curle, @Curle
These are strange times. The pejorative “anti-Semite” is beginning to assume the role of the scientific method in a spiritual battle with religious dogma, also know as loyalty to Zionism.
According to the Times of Israel regarding daddy Maxwell:
“Maxwell is buried on Jerusalem’s Mount of Olives. Many members of the Israeli intelligence community attended his funeral. So too did Yitzhak Shamir, Israel’s then-prime minister.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/
Just another pension robbing Israel loyalist with a spy (?) daughter , a boyfriend of the daughter engaging in classic honeypot behavior, Mossad friends at his funeral and another daughter in business with a guy who made his fortune appropriating other people’s technology. Nothing to see here.
You also left out any discussion of the sister who has purported cyber spying problems of her own.Replies: @Steve Floyd
The Mossad, obviously soooo desperate for spies, calls up the ninth child of one of their supposed former spies and says “hey, we got a spy position that, uh, coincidentally opened up around the time of your father’s death, know anyone who fits the role?”
That wouldn’t even be realistic in a James Bond movie. Being a spy isn’t like a family heirloom, passed down generation to generation.
This Epstein spy nonsense is the continuation of a long line of anti-semitic conspiracy theories. The 9/11 hijackers similarly believed that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent and was getting kompromat on Clinton.
“Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were an American married couple who were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union, including providing top-secret information about American radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to be executed during peacetime.[1][2][3][4] Other convicted co-conspirators were sentenced to prison, including Ethel's brother, David Greenglass (who had made a plea agreement),”
Thanks for the input SteveFloydDomPlatnan.Replies: @Steve Floyd
Actually, you seem addled.
The last time those other people in the skit pop up to shout down Stewart, they are portraying the other side. At this point, he gives up, crumpling his script and tossing it over his shoulder.
The message of the “joke,” and Mr. Sailer’s wryly detached stance, is that both sides are so unreasonable that you should not take either, but move along to Noticing other stuff.
This is propaganda, it has worked on the American people for far too long, and it enables Joe to send those missiles for Nikki to sign before they tear Palestinians to bits.
That wouldn't even be realistic in a James Bond movie. Being a spy isn't like a family heirloom, passed down generation to generation.
This Epstein spy nonsense is the continuation of a long line of anti-semitic conspiracy theories. The 9/11 hijackers similarly believed that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent and was getting kompromat on Clinton.Replies: @Curle, @Curle
You don’t say?
“Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were an American married couple who were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union, including providing top-secret information about American radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to be executed during peacetime.[1][2][3][4] Other convicted co-conspirators were sentenced to prison, including Ethel’s brother, David Greenglass (who had made a plea agreement),”
Thanks for the input SteveFloydDomPlatnan.
That wouldn't even be realistic in a James Bond movie. Being a spy isn't like a family heirloom, passed down generation to generation.
This Epstein spy nonsense is the continuation of a long line of anti-semitic conspiracy theories. The 9/11 hijackers similarly believed that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent and was getting kompromat on Clinton.Replies: @Curle, @Curle
.
The belief in ‘anti-semitism’ is mostly defensive conspiracism.
“Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were an American married couple who were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union, including providing top-secret information about American radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to be executed during peacetime.[1][2][3][4] Other convicted co-conspirators were sentenced to prison, including Ethel's brother, David Greenglass (who had made a plea agreement),”
Thanks for the input SteveFloydDomPlatnan.Replies: @Steve Floyd
You tried so hard and got so far but in the end you couldn’t even think of an example of spying being passed down generation to generation.
Even if you were to find an example of an intelligence agency recruiting the offspring of one of their spies, that doesn’t in any way prove or lend support to the evidence free conspiracy theory that Ghislaine Maxwell or Jeffrey Epstein were Mossad spies. It’s not even a fact that Robert Maxwell was a Mossad spy. The man was 300 pounds and anything but inconspicuous.
“Barbara Joe Walker, the ex-spouse of John Walker, and employed by Eastman-Kodak Company, contacted the FBI Boston by telephone on November 17, 1984. She indicated, according to the FBI internal documentation of the event, that her ex-husband, John Walker was “selling secrets to the Russians” and had been doing so for over 19 years. She would go on to identify Arthur Walker and Jerry “Wentworth” as also being participants with John Walker.”
“She continued how Walker had attempted to recruit their daughter, Laura Walker Snyder, while she was serving as a Secure Communications Operator with the U.S. Army at Fort Polk. This was later confirmed by the daughter, Laura, who told the FBI on March 7, 1985, that her father had asked her to provide Army secrets and codes and that she had refused.”
“WHERE IS THE WALKER SPY RING NOW?
Arthur Walker was sentenced in 1985 to life in prison. He died in prison on July 7, 2014, at the age of 79.”
“John Walker was sentenced in 1985 to life in prison, he would die a bit more than a month after his elder brother on August 28, 2014, in the same prison as his brother Arthur.”
“Jerry Whitworth was sentenced to 365 years in prison and fined $410,000. He remains incarcerated at Atwater minimum security prison located in Atwater, California.”
“Michael L. Walker was sentenced to 25 years and was paroled after 15 in February 2000. His lighter sentence was a direct result of his father’s plea deal with the Department of Justice. Following his release in 2000, he returned to Massachusetts, where his mother and sister Cynthia resided.”
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/05/20/codename-wind-flyer-the-john-walker-spy-ring-was-a-family-affair-with-17-years-of-espionage/
I can see that close reading is either inconvenient or not your strong suit so let’s recap:
You seem to be responding to this:
From which you discern that Ghislaine is being specifically accused of being a Mossad spy, that Epstein’s honeypots were necessarily for the benefit of of Israel and that papa Maxwell’s Mossad funeral attendants suggests he was one of them and that some clumsy analogy to disposition of estates informs the matter.
The evidence strongly suggests Ghislaine and Epstein ran a honeypot operation and that the sister has business partnerships with at least one technology company with a history of using other people’s tech. Honeypots help curious people learn things they otherwise wouldn’t learn. The Epstein/Maxwell enterprise targeted people with tech knowledge useful to governments and tech titans.
The Epstein/Maxwells had published connections to ‘intelligence’ agencies and a father with close ties to the state of Israel and funeral mourners who were reported to be part of that government’s intelligence operation. If you, or some other commenter, want to object to the source of the claim about Epstein’s connections to intelligence you should provide the objectionable claim as published and the name of the reporter, explain your skepticism regarding the reporters reliability, and come up with a story addressing the failure of the named source to contradict the claim as published. You should also come up with another, presumably new theory, to cover the gaps in the story regarding Epstein’s easy treatment at the hands of authorities that the published story provides.
If you think Israel is the least likely state or person to use Epstein/Maxwell services or only one of several states/persons to use Epstein/Maxwell services then make your argument.
If you think states/persons accused of using honeypot services wouldn’t for reasons of honor then make that claim.
If you think there’s a code of honor among honeypot purveyors that bars them from using people close to them to advance their ends then make that claim.
If you think any of the above can be informed by the laws of inheritance go see a shrink because you probably need such services.
No, I was not responding to that. I was responding to your claim that sarcastic claim that
The evidence doesn’t suggest that “Ghislaine and Epstein ran a honeypot operation”. None of the supposed victims of this mythical honeypot operation claimed they were compromised.
Perhaps the closest you can find is Bill Gates saying that he kind of sort of thought some random email from Epstein asking to be reimbursed for a relatively minor expense must have been part of a Super Sekrit blackmail attempt. Gates ignored the reimbursement request and, surprise, Epstein didn’t blackmail him. Worst. Blackmailer. Ever.
Epstein and Maxwell had no published connections to anyone intelligence. Even if you think that Robert Maxwell was either Mossad or Israeli intelligence, Epstein almost certainly never met him.
Acosta completely denied Vicky Ward’s reporting (the source of which was transparently Steve Bannon, who believed Epstein was a spy) and said when asked he would “hesitate to take such reporting as fact”. Later, when interviewed, he told DOJ investigators that “he had no knowledge of Epstein being an intelligence asset” and investigators also said that they “found no evidence suggesting that Epstein was such a cooperating witness or “intelligence asset,” or that anyone—including any of the subjects of OPR’s investigation—believed that to be the case”.
Clearly, if Epstein received, as you believe, “easy treatment at the hands of authorities”, it was certainly not because the authorities believed he was a cooperating witness or an intelligence asset.
Not a single one of the teenage girls that spoke to law enforcement about Epstein around 2005 so much as hinted that any high profile people were involved. There are no reports of Epstein telling the girls “Oh, I got this very important friend of mine, maybe you can make him feel nice”. Over 30 young women made similar claims against Epstein, none of them hinted at a honeypot operation. The obvious lack of evidence isn’t because all the accusers are in on the conspiracy, as you might think, it’s because, occam’s razor, the honeypot operation isn’t real.
The onus isn’t on me to disprove your fantastical and evidence free conspiracy theory about Epstein being a super sekrit Israeli spy.
By the way, why do you think Epstein was flying tech specialists and other big shots with access to sensitive information all over the place to be surrounded by pretty girls and maybe to get handjobs?
The last time those other people in the skit pop up to shout down Stewart, they are portraying the other side. At this point, he gives up, crumpling his script and tossing it over his shoulder.
The message of the “joke,” and Mr. Sailer’s wryly detached stance, is that both sides are so unreasonable that you should not take either, but move along to Noticing other stuff.
This is propaganda, it has worked on the American people for far too long, and it enables Joe to send those missiles for Nikki to sign before they tear Palestinians to bits.Replies: @Gandydancer
Who is this “Nikki” who “signs missiles”?
You seem to be responding to this:From which you discern that Ghislaine is being specifically accused of being a Mossad spy, that Epstein’s honeypots were necessarily for the benefit of of Israel and that papa Maxwell’s Mossad funeral attendants suggests he was one of them and that some clumsy analogy to disposition of estates informs the matter.
The evidence strongly suggests Ghislaine and Epstein ran a honeypot operation and that the sister has business partnerships with at least one technology company with a history of using other people’s tech. Honeypots help curious people learn things they otherwise wouldn’t learn. The Epstein/Maxwell enterprise targeted people with tech knowledge useful to governments and tech titans.
The Epstein/Maxwells had published connections to ‘intelligence’ agencies and a father with close ties to the state of Israel and funeral mourners who were reported to be part of that government’s intelligence operation. If you, or some other commenter, want to object to the source of the claim about Epstein’s connections to intelligence you should provide the objectionable claim as published and the name of the reporter, explain your skepticism regarding the reporters reliability, and come up with a story addressing the failure of the named source to contradict the claim as published. You should also come up with another, presumably new theory, to cover the gaps in the story regarding Epstein’s easy treatment at the hands of authorities that the published story provides.
If you think Israel is the least likely state or person to use Epstein/Maxwell services or only one of several states/persons to use Epstein/Maxwell services then make your argument.
If you think states/persons accused of using honeypot services wouldn’t for reasons of honor then make that claim.
If you think there’s a code of honor among honeypot purveyors that bars them from using people close to them to advance their ends then make that claim.
If you think any of the above can be informed by the laws of inheritance go see a shrink because you probably need such services.Replies: @Gandydancer
What, exactly, is Epstein or G. Maxwell have supposed to have told Mossad about who and what use did Mossad make of it?
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2019/10/investigative-series/former-israeli-intel-official-claims-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-worked-for-israel/
They are alleged to have been involved with Israeli intelligence as far back as Iran Contra. And that after Iran Contra they moved on to other matters. And later they:
“Ben-Menashe says that well after the introduction, though again he does not specify what year, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein began a sexual blackmail operation with the purpose of extorting U.S. political and public figures on behalf of Israeli military intelligence.”
The article above and others linked to it begin with Maxwell and Epstein’s involvement with Iran Contra:
“In an interview with Zev Shalev, former CBS News executive producer and award-winning investigative journalist for Narativ, the former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe, claimed not only to have met Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, back in the 1980s, but that both Epstein and Maxwell were already working with Israeli intelligence during that time period. “
“They found a niche”
“In an interview last week with the independent outlet Narativ, Ben-Menashe, who himself was involved in Iran-Contra arms deals, told his interviewer Zev Shalev that he had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by Robert Maxwell in the mid-1980s while Maxwell’s and Ben-Menashe’s involvement with Iran-Contra was ongoing. Ben-Menashe did not specify the year he met Epstein.”
“Ben-Menashe told Shalev that “he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group …. I’m not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing.” Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period.”
“He then added that Maxwell had stated during the introduction that “your Israeli bosses have already approved” of Epstein. Shalev later noted that Maxwell “had an extensive network in Israel at the time, which included [the later Prime Minister] Ariel Sharon, according to Ben-Menashe.”
“Ben-Menashe went on to say that he had “met him [Epstein] a few times in Maxwell’s office, that was it.” He also said he was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel’s behalf.”Replies: @Marcus McMillan
That’s a strange sentence. It doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense.
You mean like the Walker family spy ring?
“Barbara Joe Walker, the ex-spouse of John Walker, and employed by Eastman-Kodak Company, contacted the FBI Boston by telephone on November 17, 1984. She indicated, according to the FBI internal documentation of the event, that her ex-husband, John Walker was “selling secrets to the Russians” and had been doing so for over 19 years. She would go on to identify Arthur Walker and Jerry “Wentworth” as also being participants with John Walker.”
“She continued how Walker had attempted to recruit their daughter, Laura Walker Snyder, while she was serving as a Secure Communications Operator with the U.S. Army at Fort Polk. This was later confirmed by the daughter, Laura, who told the FBI on March 7, 1985, that her father had asked her to provide Army secrets and codes and that she had refused.”
“WHERE IS THE WALKER SPY RING NOW?
Arthur Walker was sentenced in 1985 to life in prison. He died in prison on July 7, 2014, at the age of 79.”
“John Walker was sentenced in 1985 to life in prison, he would die a bit more than a month after his elder brother on August 28, 2014, in the same prison as his brother Arthur.”
“Jerry Whitworth was sentenced to 365 years in prison and fined $410,000. He remains incarcerated at Atwater minimum security prison located in Atwater, California.”
“Michael L. Walker was sentenced to 25 years and was paroled after 15 in February 2000. His lighter sentence was a direct result of his father’s plea deal with the Department of Justice. Following his release in 2000, he returned to Massachusetts, where his mother and sister Cynthia resided.”
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/05/20/codename-wind-flyer-the-john-walker-spy-ring-was-a-family-affair-with-17-years-of-espionage/
"Epstein was a “currency wizard” who needed constant access to phone and data communication for his financial trading and business transactions".
Maxwell was not the daughter of a Mossad agent and, even if she was, the Mossad just calls up the ninth child of a Mossad agent and says "Got a boyfriend who would make a good agent"? It defies belief.
You claim, falsely, that Alex Acosta "testified" that he was warned off of prosecuting Epstein because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence”. In reality, the source of that claim was a "former senior White House official" who was speaking to Vicky Ward at the time she was writing a hitpiece book on the Kushners. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that source was Steve Bannon, who constantly spreads misinformation and is a conspiracy theorist.
You claim, falsely, that one of Epstein's own employees who managed his New Mexico estate said that many of the rooms in that mansion were wired for video and audio surveillance. No employee at the New Mexico estate ever claimed such a thing. I'm guessing you are speaking of Maria Farmer, who didn't manage the New Mexico estate at all, and is a flat out crazy conspiracy theorist who thinks Epstein was a Reptilian.
Yup, the blackmail rumors all can be traced back to various nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, and kooks, like Steve Bannon.Replies: @Curle, @Mr. Anon
What you “quote” (you never even cited a source) was what Epstein told the contractor. Presumably the contractor wasn’t hanging around all the time to observe Epstein making trades.
What you say is a lie, as commenter Curle demonstrated upthread.
Wa, wa, wa, you offer nothing but your own unsubstantiated theory.
Listen, “Jon Tormento”, “Dom Platnam”, “Steve Floyd”, Mr. single commenter using a new name every time, why are you so interested in this and why do you choose a new name every time you post?
F**k off, troll.
It's true that Hamas caused 10/7 and that the Israelis caused what led to 10/7, and we can chicken-and-egg this all the way back to the Stone Age. "He started it!" is what children in kindergarten say.
First things first: simple humanity demands that this immediate nonsense stop Right Now. There'll be plenty of time later for unwinding giant balls of string. But right now, innocents are being slaughtered, so: Knock it off.
Period.Replies: @Anonymous, @Hunsdon
That’s where I stand. Stop the killing. I don’t have the answer to the Israel question, but the killing is only hardening the hearts of both sides, and killing a lot of people.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nikki-haley-writes-finish-them-israeli-artillery-shell-drawing-criticism-2024-05-29/
The source, the so-called ‘assorted crackpots’, includes a former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2019/10/investigative-series/former-israeli-intel-official-claims-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-worked-for-israel/
They are alleged to have been involved with Israeli intelligence as far back as Iran Contra. And that after Iran Contra they moved on to other matters. And later they:
“Ben-Menashe says that well after the introduction, though again he does not specify what year, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein began a sexual blackmail operation with the purpose of extorting U.S. political and public figures on behalf of Israeli military intelligence.”
The article above and others linked to it begin with Maxwell and Epstein’s involvement with Iran Contra:
“In an interview with Zev Shalev, former CBS News executive producer and award-winning investigative journalist for Narativ, the former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe, claimed not only to have met Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, back in the 1980s, but that both Epstein and Maxwell were already working with Israeli intelligence during that time period. “
“They found a niche”
“In an interview last week with the independent outlet Narativ, Ben-Menashe, who himself was involved in Iran-Contra arms deals, told his interviewer Zev Shalev that he had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by Robert Maxwell in the mid-1980s while Maxwell’s and Ben-Menashe’s involvement with Iran-Contra was ongoing. Ben-Menashe did not specify the year he met Epstein.”
“Ben-Menashe told Shalev that “he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group …. I’m not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing.” Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period.”
“He then added that Maxwell had stated during the introduction that “your Israeli bosses have already approved” of Epstein. Shalev later noted that Maxwell “had an extensive network in Israel at the time, which included [the later Prime Minister] Ariel Sharon, according to Ben-Menashe.”
“Ben-Menashe went on to say that he had “met him [Epstein] a few times in Maxwell’s office, that was it.” He also said he was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel’s behalf.”
"Ari Menashe is a fantasist. He is by nationality Israeli. And he, for some years had a fairly lowly position in the Israeli intelligence. He was a translator as far as I recall and he found this not too exciting. And so, he in fact got fired I think from the Israeli intelligence, for essentially delusional behaviour, and started basically going and as far as I can see, making a full time living as a fantasist."
"So we asked him questions about arms and he flunked. I mean, he just didn't know. We went and checked everything he'd said. We checked mandates. Just nothing stood up. And we came to the conclusion he was complete and utter fantasist, a conclusion, by the way, which his wife or possibly his ex wife in Israel agreed with. She said, "You can't believe everything he says. He's just a compulsive fabulist."
https://youtu.be/MID6Cf4govo?t=1003
A U.S. congressional investigation described Ari Ben-Menashe as "totally untrustworthy":You're so desperate to believe in your evidence free ludicrous conspiracy theory that you have to rely on "totally untrustworthy" fantasists like Ari Ben-Menashe to lend support. You, being intensely gullible, didn't bother to do any research on the guy, much like you didn't bother to do any research on Epstein.
By the way, even if you're stupid enough to believe his claims, Ari Ben-Menashe wasn't Mossad and he was most likely a low level translator.
Perhaps the closest you can find is Bill Gates saying that he kind of sort of thought some random email from Epstein asking to be reimbursed for a relatively minor expense must have been part of a Super Sekrit blackmail attempt. Gates ignored the reimbursement request and, surprise, Epstein didn't blackmail him. Worst. Blackmailer. Ever.Epstein and Maxwell had no published connections to anyone intelligence. Even if you think that Robert Maxwell was either Mossad or Israeli intelligence, Epstein almost certainly never met him.
Acosta completely denied Vicky Ward's reporting (the source of which was transparently Steve Bannon, who believed Epstein was a spy) and said when asked he would "hesitate to take such reporting as fact". Later, when interviewed, he told DOJ investigators that "he had no knowledge of Epstein being an intelligence asset" and investigators also said that they “found no evidence suggesting that Epstein was such a cooperating witness or “intelligence asset,” or that anyone—including any of the subjects of OPR’s investigation—believed that to be the case”.
Clearly, if Epstein received, as you believe, "easy treatment at the hands of authorities", it was certainly not because the authorities believed he was a cooperating witness or an intelligence asset.
Not a single one of the teenage girls that spoke to law enforcement about Epstein around 2005 so much as hinted that any high profile people were involved. There are no reports of Epstein telling the girls "Oh, I got this very important friend of mine, maybe you can make him feel nice". Over 30 young women made similar claims against Epstein, none of them hinted at a honeypot operation. The obvious lack of evidence isn't because all the accusers are in on the conspiracy, as you might think, it's because, occam's razor, the honeypot operation isn't real.
The onus isn't on me to disprove your fantastical and evidence free conspiracy theory about Epstein being a super sekrit Israeli spy.Replies: @Curle
Care to formulate the above into an coherent statement relevant to the discussion at hand?
See my more extensive comment downthread regarding the published comments of former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe.
Is this the exasperated exclamation form of evidence?
Nothing like a barely legal girl lured away from high school pursuits to flatter and maybe give hand jobs to strangers to be well versed in the identities of university professors and scientists sufficient to recognize them on sight. And, of course, at least one of those girls made such allegations in later legal proceedings which is why you unnecessarily limited your comment to 2005.
The whole operation was structured as honeypots are arranged so your claim is confused on its face. To the extent they described the operation as it has been presented in the press they quite clearly did hint to an honeypot operation. Do you recall how many explicitly said they weren’t given much information at all?
By the way, why do you think Epstein was flying tech specialists and other big shots with access to sensitive information all over the place to be surrounded by pretty girls and maybe to get handjobs?
I’ve probably said this before, but the basic problem as I see it is western meddling, followed by western counter meddling. If the Jews AND Palestians didn’t get so much aid money to spend on weapons they might be a bit more willing to comprimise. But apart from some libertarians and moderate nationalists, no one in the West seems to understand that pumping money into an area with intense historical hatreds is a bad idea. The far left want to see successful, nationalist Jews wiped out (because they hate success and competence). The far right are fighting the Jews to the last Palestinian ( like the neocons with the pro-west Ukrainians v Russia) and the liberal right want westernized Jewry to defeat a troublesome outpost of Middle Eastern tribalism.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2019/10/investigative-series/former-israeli-intel-official-claims-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-worked-for-israel/
They are alleged to have been involved with Israeli intelligence as far back as Iran Contra. And that after Iran Contra they moved on to other matters. And later they:
“Ben-Menashe says that well after the introduction, though again he does not specify what year, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein began a sexual blackmail operation with the purpose of extorting U.S. political and public figures on behalf of Israeli military intelligence.”
The article above and others linked to it begin with Maxwell and Epstein’s involvement with Iran Contra:
“In an interview with Zev Shalev, former CBS News executive producer and award-winning investigative journalist for Narativ, the former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe, claimed not only to have met Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, back in the 1980s, but that both Epstein and Maxwell were already working with Israeli intelligence during that time period. “
“They found a niche”
“In an interview last week with the independent outlet Narativ, Ben-Menashe, who himself was involved in Iran-Contra arms deals, told his interviewer Zev Shalev that he had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by Robert Maxwell in the mid-1980s while Maxwell’s and Ben-Menashe’s involvement with Iran-Contra was ongoing. Ben-Menashe did not specify the year he met Epstein.”
“Ben-Menashe told Shalev that “he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group …. I’m not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing.” Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period.”
“He then added that Maxwell had stated during the introduction that “your Israeli bosses have already approved” of Epstein. Shalev later noted that Maxwell “had an extensive network in Israel at the time, which included [the later Prime Minister] Ariel Sharon, according to Ben-Menashe.”
“Ben-Menashe went on to say that he had “met him [Epstein] a few times in Maxwell’s office, that was it.” He also said he was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel’s behalf.”Replies: @Marcus McMillan
Ari Ben-Menashe is a fantasist and even his own wife or ex-wife says so.
“Ari Menashe is a fantasist. He is by nationality Israeli. And he, for some years had a fairly lowly position in the Israeli intelligence. He was a translator as far as I recall and he found this not too exciting. And so, he in fact got fired I think from the Israeli intelligence, for essentially delusional behaviour, and started basically going and as far as I can see, making a full time living as a fantasist.”
“So we asked him questions about arms and he flunked. I mean, he just didn’t know. We went and checked everything he’d said. We checked mandates. Just nothing stood up. And we came to the conclusion he was complete and utter fantasist, a conclusion, by the way, which his wife or possibly his ex wife in Israel agreed with. She said, “You can’t believe everything he says. He’s just a compulsive fabulist.”
A U.S. congressional investigation described Ari Ben-Menashe as “totally untrustworthy”:
You’re so desperate to believe in your evidence free ludicrous conspiracy theory that you have to rely on “totally untrustworthy” fantasists like Ari Ben-Menashe to lend support. You, being intensely gullible, didn’t bother to do any research on the guy, much like you didn’t bother to do any research on Epstein.
By the way, even if you’re stupid enough to believe his claims, Ari Ben-Menashe wasn’t Mossad and he was most likely a low level translator.
The one girl who made such allegations in later legal proceedings is a crackpot who posts Qanon stuff on Twitter, has a history of lying and perjury, and was taking “eight Xanax a day” (a drug known for causing psychosis).
Can you name an underage girl besides the aforementioned Qanon nutso that claims they had an inappropriate meeting with any of Epstein’s famous friends? You won’t find one, because it’s just her.
So your conspiracy theory about underage girls being used to compromise powerful people for Israel comes down to the word of… an untrustworthy crackpot Qanoner and Ari Ben-Menashe, a “totally untrustworthy” fantasist?
So Dom Platnan becomes Steve Floyd becomes Marcus McMillan. Perhaps this identity crisis you’re experiencing explains your failure to provide citations to or links to any of the materials you suggest corroborate your claims? By the way, below is an article by Vicky Ward regarding Epstein that you mentioned for the purpose of hoping to counter the authority behind the identifications of Jeffrey Epstein with intelligence services, something you are very committed to (for some reason), without acknowledging your numerous errors in this pursuit heretofore starting with your the invention of the ‘spies don’t recruit members’ non-fact fact earlier in this discussion. Readers will notice that Ward does report official sources linking Epstein to intelligence, a matter you seem very invested in refuting. This vehemence denying an intelligence connection oddly corresponds to a thoroughgoing disinterest in explaining Epstein’s orchestrated pairing of young nubile teen women and men possessing very valuable intellectual information of a technical nature. In other words, you show a pattern of taking an extremely odd orchestrated practice on Epstein’s part and having no strong beliefs about it except to proclaim vehemently WHAT IT IS NOT without troubling yourself to offer WHAT IT IS.
Anyway, readers might find this article interesting if only to marvel at your certainty regarding what you think it doesn’t say or suggest. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates-connection-1206453/
I don’t need to provide “citations”. This isn’t a term paper. You can Google the text I quoted in less time than it took you to write that sentence.
You claim, falsely, that “Vicky Ward does report official sources linking Epstein to intelligence”. That is not true, but lying is all that you people do.
You claim, falsely, that there was an “orchestrated pairing of young nubile teen women and men possessing very valuable intellectual information of a technical nature”. That is also not true. I asked you before, can you name an underage girl besides the aforementioned Qanon nutso that claims they had an inappropriate meeting with any of Epstein’s famous friends?
You failed for the obvious reason that it’s just her.
If I were you, I’d be wondering right now why the sources for this fantastical conspiracy theory are a crazy Qanon crank with a history of lying and perjury; Ari Ben-Menashe, a “totally untrustworthy” fantastist; and Steve Bannon, a misinformation agent, known to “flood the zone with shit”.
former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe and the other was Acosta as reported by Vicky Ward. Acosta at no time denies he made the claim Ward reports as you suggest he says instead:“When Acosta gave a press conference last week, the one preceding his eventual resignation, he was asked about whether Epstein being an intelligence asset had something to do with the sweetheart deal. Acosta acknowledged the reporting on this,as completely untrue, and said guidelines prohibited him from addressing it directly.”https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/investigative-journalist-explains-why-jeffrey-epstein-might-have-needed-a-fake-passport/In fact, the only caution Acosta gives regarding the press is directed to reporting on the case in general and does not call out Ward’s reporting in particular as you try to suggest. “So, there has been reporting to that effect. And let me say,. And again, I wouldhe said. “This was a case that was brought by our office. This was a case that was brought based on the facts […] And I look at the reporting and others. I can’t address it directly because of our guidelines.”His reference is to the reporting on “a lot of effects . . . over the years.” He neither calls out Ward’s reporting nor does he call out the intelligence reporting. Maybe you should go back to letting your imagination make up more non-existent intelligence protocols (don’t use daughters) and lay off the invention of non-existent quotes allegedly denying Ward’s reporting?Replies: @Marcus McMillan
Yes. Thank you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/movies/academy-museum-jewish-exhibition.html
https://archive.ph/ccaZP
Not false. You don’t provide citations because your only skill is to fabricate. Here’s how https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/investigative-journalist-explains-why-jeffrey-epstein-might-have-needed-a-fake-passport/ reports your false claim that Acosta denied the intelligence claim, this supposed denial constituting the entirety of your objection to reports connecting Epstein with “intelligence.” Reports coming from at least two official sources meaning former officials of the respective governments at the time Epstein was active with their governments. One was
former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe and the other was Acosta as reported by Vicky Ward. Acosta at no time denies he made the claim Ward reports as you suggest he says instead:
“When Acosta gave a press conference last week, the one preceding his eventual resignation, he was asked about whether Epstein being an intelligence asset had something to do with the sweetheart deal. Acosta acknowledged the reporting on this,
as completely untrue, and said guidelines prohibited him from addressing it directly.”
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/investigative-journalist-explains-why-jeffrey-epstein-might-have-needed-a-fake-passport/
In fact, the only caution Acosta gives regarding the press is directed to reporting on the case in general and does not call out Ward’s reporting in particular as you try to suggest.
“So, there has been reporting to that effect. And let me say,
. And again, I would
he said. “This was a case that was brought by our office. This was a case that was brought based on the facts […] And I look at the reporting and others. I can’t address it directly because of our guidelines.”
His reference is to the reporting on “a lot of effects . . . over the years.” He neither calls out Ward’s reporting nor does he call out the intelligence reporting.
Maybe you should go back to letting your imagination make up more non-existent intelligence protocols (don’t use daughters) and lay off the invention of non-existent quotes allegedly denying Ward’s reporting?
The "former senior White House official" that claimed Acosta said Epstein was an intelligence asset was transparently Steve Bannon.
Acosta as you know, denied it in the press conference, and, when interviewed, he told DOJ investigators that “he had no knowledge of Epstein being an intelligence asset” and investigators also said that they “found no evidence suggesting that Epstein was such a cooperating witness or “intelligence asset,” or that anyone—including any of the subjects of [DOJ] OPR’s investigation—believed that to be the case”.
So it's your belief that Acosta lied to DOJ investigators and so did all the subjects of the DOJ OPR's (Office of Professional Responsibility) investigation? What possible reason would all these people have to lie? Don't answer, I'm sure that you'll blame it on an X-Files-esque Deep State conspiracy.
Take a step back for a minute and look at how flimsy your crackpot conspiracy theory is. It relies on the word of Steve Bannon, Trump lackey and misinformation agent known for "flooding the zone with shit" and about to go to jail; a "totally untrustworthy" fantasist named Ari Ben-Menashe who likely worked as a low level translator in the 1980s and was not in the Mossad; and a Qanoner drug addict and sex trafficker who was taking "eight Xanax a day".
These sources are apparently credible to you, but FBI prosecutors are not.
Next, you'll probably bring in David Icke and Alex Jones to support your claim. Who cares about their credibility as long as they agree with you.
former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe and the other was Acosta as reported by Vicky Ward. Acosta at no time denies he made the claim Ward reports as you suggest he says instead:“When Acosta gave a press conference last week, the one preceding his eventual resignation, he was asked about whether Epstein being an intelligence asset had something to do with the sweetheart deal. Acosta acknowledged the reporting on this,as completely untrue, and said guidelines prohibited him from addressing it directly.”https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/investigative-journalist-explains-why-jeffrey-epstein-might-have-needed-a-fake-passport/In fact, the only caution Acosta gives regarding the press is directed to reporting on the case in general and does not call out Ward’s reporting in particular as you try to suggest. “So, there has been reporting to that effect. And let me say,. And again, I wouldhe said. “This was a case that was brought by our office. This was a case that was brought based on the facts […] And I look at the reporting and others. I can’t address it directly because of our guidelines.”His reference is to the reporting on “a lot of effects . . . over the years.” He neither calls out Ward’s reporting nor does he call out the intelligence reporting. Maybe you should go back to letting your imagination make up more non-existent intelligence protocols (don’t use daughters) and lay off the invention of non-existent quotes allegedly denying Ward’s reporting?Replies: @Marcus McMillan
Curle, this has already been covered. You have the memory of a goldfish.
The “former senior White House official” that claimed Acosta said Epstein was an intelligence asset was transparently Steve Bannon.
Acosta as you know, denied it in the press conference, and, when interviewed, he told DOJ investigators that “he had no knowledge of Epstein being an intelligence asset” and investigators also said that they “found no evidence suggesting that Epstein was such a cooperating witness or “intelligence asset,” or that anyone—including any of the subjects of [DOJ] OPR’s investigation—believed that to be the case”.
So it’s your belief that Acosta lied to DOJ investigators and so did all the subjects of the DOJ OPR’s (Office of Professional Responsibility) investigation? What possible reason would all these people have to lie? Don’t answer, I’m sure that you’ll blame it on an X-Files-esque Deep State conspiracy.
Take a step back for a minute and look at how flimsy your crackpot conspiracy theory is. It relies on the word of Steve Bannon, Trump lackey and misinformation agent known for “flooding the zone with shit” and about to go to jail; a “totally untrustworthy” fantasist named Ari Ben-Menashe who likely worked as a low level translator in the 1980s and was not in the Mossad; and a Qanoner drug addict and sex trafficker who was taking “eight Xanax a day”.
These sources are apparently credible to you, but FBI prosecutors are not.
Next, you’ll probably bring in David Icke and Alex Jones to support your claim. Who cares about their credibility as long as they agree with you.