Amazon | Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath (Hoover Institution Press Publication) | Nash, George H.

The culmination of an extraordinary literary project that Herbert Hoover launched during World War II, his "magnum opus"&;at last published nearly fifty years after its completion&;offers a revisionist reexamination of the war and its cold war aftermath and a sweeping indictment of the "lost statesmanship" of Franklin Roosevelt. Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath originated as a volume of Hoover's memoirs, a book initially focused on his battle against President Roosevelt's foreign policies before Pearl Harbor. As time went on, however, Hoover widened his scope to include Roosevelt's foreign policies during the war, as well as the war's consequences: the expansion of the Soviet empire at war's end and the eruption of the cold war against the Communists.

On issue after issue, Hoover raises crucial questions that continue to be debated to this day. Did Franklin Roosevelt deceitfully maneuver the United States into an undeclared and unconstitutional naval war with Germany in 1941? Did he unnecessarily appease Joseph Stalin at the pivotal Tehran conference in 1943? Did communist agents and sympathizers in the White House, Department of State, and Department of the Treasury play a malign role in some of America's wartime decisions? Hoover raises numerous arguments that challenge us to think again about our past. Whether or not one ultimately accepts his arguments, the exercise of confronting them will be worthwhile to all.

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957ページ
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英語
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Hoover Inst Pr
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2011/11/17
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15.24 x 6.35 x 22.86 cm
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0817912347
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978-0817912345
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"Nearly fifty years after his death, Herbert Hoover returns as the ultimate revisionist historian, prosecuting his heavily documented indictment of US foreign policy before, during, and after the Second World War. Brilliantly edited by George Nash, Freedom Betrayed is as passionate as it is provocative. Many no doubt will dispute Hoover's strategic vision. But few can dispute the historical significance of this unique volume, published even as Americans of the twenty-first century debate their moral and military obligations."
--RICHARD NORTON SMITH is a presidential historian and author, former director of several presidential libraries, and current scholar-in-residence at George Mason University.

"Freedom Betrayed offers vivid proof of William Faulkner's famous dictum that "The past is never dead. It's not even past." For those who might think that history has settled the mantle of consensus around the events of the World War II era, Hoover's iconoclastic narrative will come as an unsettling reminder that much controversy remains. By turns quirky and astute, in prose that is often acerbic and unfailingly provocative, Hoover opens some old wounds and inflicts a few new ones of his own, while assembling a passionate case for the tragic errors of Franklin Roosevelt's diplomacy. Not all readers will be convinced, but Freedom Betrayed is must-read for anyone interested in the most consequential upheaval of the twentieth century."
--DAVID M. KENNEDY is professor of history emeritus at Stanford University and the author of Freedom From Fear: The American People in Depression and War, 1929-1945.

"A forcefully argued and well documented alternative to, and critique of, the conventional liberal historical narrative of America's road to war and its war aims. Even readers comfortable with the established account will find themselves thinking that on some points the accepted history should be reconsidered and perhaps revised."
--JOHN EARL HAYNES, author of Spies: The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America

"Finally, after waiting for close to half a century, we now have Hoover's massive and impassioned account of American foreign policy from 1933 to the early 1950s. Thanks to the efforts of George H. Nash, there exists an unparalleled picture of Hoover's world view, one long shared by many conservatives. Nash's thorough and perceptive introduction shows why he remains America's leading Hoover scholar."
--JUSTUS D. DOENECKE, author of Storm on the Horizon: The Challenge to American Intervention, 1939-1941

"Herbert Hoover's Freedom Betrayed is a bracing work of historical revisionism that takes aim at U.S. foreign policy under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Part memoir and part diplomatic history, Hoover's magnum opus seeks to expose the "lost statesmanship" that, in Hoover's eyes, needlessly drew the United States into the Second World War and, in the aftermath, facilitated the rise to global power of its ideological rival, the Soviet Union. Freedom Betrayed, as George Nash asserts in his astute and authoritative introduction, resembles a prosecutor's brief against Roosevelt--and against Winston Churchill as well-- at the bar of history. Thanks to Nash's impressive feat of reconstruction, Hoover's "thunderbolt" now strikes--nearly a half-century after it was readied. The former president's interpretation of the conduct and consequences of the Second World War will not entirely persuade most readers. Yet, as Nash testifies, like the best kind of revisionist history, Freedom Betrayed "challenges us to think afresh about our past."
--BERTRAND M. PATENAUDE, author of A Wealth of Ideas: Revelations from the Hoover Institution Archives

"What an amazing historical find! Historian George H. Nash, the dean of Herbert Hoover studies, has brought forth a very rare manuscript in Freedom Betrayed. Here is Hoover unplugged, delineating on everything from the 'lost statesmanship' of FDR to the Korean War. A truly invaluable work of presidential history. Highly recommended."
--DOUGLAS BRINKLEY is professor of history at Rice University and editor of The Reagan Diaries.

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The culmination of an extraordinary literary project that Herbert Hoover launched during World War II, his "magnum opus"&;at last published nearly fifty years after its completion&;offers a revisionist reexamination of the war and its cold war aftermath and a sweeping indictment of the "lost statesmanship" of Franklin Roosevelt. Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath originated as a volume of Hoover's memoirs, a book initially focused on his battle against President Roosevelt's foreign policies before Pearl Harbor. As time went on, however, Hoover widened his scope to include Roosevelt's foreign policies during the war, as well as the war's consequences: the expansion of the Soviet empire at war's end and the eruption of the cold war against the Communists.

On issue after issue, Hoover raises crucial questions that continue to be debated to this day. Did Franklin Roosevelt deceitfully maneuver the United States into an undeclared and unconstitutional naval war with Germany in 1941? Did he unnecessarily appease Joseph Stalin at the pivotal Tehran conference in 1943? Did communist agents and sympathizers in the White House, Department of State, and Department of the Treasury play a malign role in some of America's wartime decisions? Hoover raises numerous arguments that challenge us to think again about our past. Whether or not one ultimately accepts his arguments, the exercise of confronting them will be worthwhile to all.

George H. Nash is a historian, lecturer, and authority on the life of Herbert Hoover. His publications include three volumes of a definitive, scholarly biography of Hoover and the monograph Herbert Hoover and Stanford University, as well as numerous articles in scholarly and popular journals. A specialist in twentieth-century political and intellectual history, Nash is also the author of The Conservative Intellectual Movement in America since 1945 and Reappraising the Right: The Past and Future of American Conservatism. A graduate of Amherst College and holder of a PhD in history from Harvard University, he received the Richard M. Weaver Prize for Scholarly Letters in 2008. He lives in South Hadley, Massachusetts.

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出版社 ‏ : ‎ Hoover Inst Pr; Illustrated版 (2011/11/17)
発売日 ‏ : ‎ 2011/11/17
言語 ‏ : ‎ 英語
ハードカバー ‏ : ‎ 957ページ
ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0817912347
ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0817912345
寸法 ‏ : ‎ 15.24 x 6.35 x 22.86 cm

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錆びついた英語の復活を期しての購入でもあります。昔ながらの辞書片手では時間がかかりすぎるので、写メしてＬｉｎｅの英語翻訳や、Google翻訳です。
意味が不明なところはしみじみ読み込んでいます。
内容は学者さんの学識を持った素晴らしい論評がありますのでそちらをご参照ください。

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歴史の常識は疑いましょう。巻き込まれない為にも。
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私が長年持っていた[何故、帝国日本はアメリカと戦争をしたのか？]の疑問点に回答してくれる本が見つかった。

私の父は満州で現地入隊した。
職業軍人では無く、一銭5厘での応召だったけど、支那事変勃発直後から13年間従軍し、昭和21年に博多へと引き揚げてきた。

昭和18年、満州軍古参軍曹で終わるかと思っていた父は、前線での下級士官不足の対策で、満州軍第13連隊から北京へ転属後に、同文館で再教育を受け准尉となった。
日本帝国軍内での階級は兵卒だが、給与、軍装は士官待遇、従卒も付く士官待遇だったそうです。
この転属が彼の運命を大きく変えました。
昭和20年9月に横須賀港に入港した米国海軍ミズーリ号で降伏文書署名で迎えた終戦。
(国際法上、終戦は8月15日ではありません。)

北京での父は、戦後の日本帝国軍武装解除、日本軍武器引き渡し、北京の戦争捕虜収容所の閉鎖等、[国民党軍]への引き継ぎを終え、帰還船で博多湾に戻った時、自分自身は生きて日本に戻れた事に感無量だったそうだ。
[北京へ転属後に同文館で再教育を受け准尉となり、原隊は南方戦線へ転戦、現地で潰滅。
なのに運命のイタズラか、生きて再び日本へ還って来れた。これがすべてだよ。]と、父は私に教えてくれた。
厨二病の頃の私は、[何故、日本は物量豊富なアメリカへ戦争を仕掛けたのか? ]と、言う疑問を持ち続け、父にも聞いたが、[日本は戦争に引きずり込まれたのさ。追い込まれて戦端を開いてしまったのだ。]としか言わなかった。
末端とは言え、下級士官待遇だった父は、ある程度の機密情報を得られるので、一般人とは違う視点を持っていた。玉音放送の一週間前に、重要発表がある事を知らされても居ました。
話はフーバー元大統領が書き残した本に戻るが、この[裏切られた自由主義]に残された、日米開戦への道程は私の父の言葉を裏付ける事になりました。
[ホワイトハウスに居るマッドマンが日本を戦争へ追い込み、選択肢を塞ぎ開戦させた。]
フーバー元大統領の著作は一般的な歴史の視点を大きく変えました。
最近、翻訳版も出版された様です。
ぜひ皆さんにも読んで欲しいと思います。

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歴史とは何だろう？と考えさせられる本
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You Tubeで動画を色々見ていると時々この本の翻訳本（裏切られた自由）の翻訳者である渡辺惣樹という人の書籍の広告がポップアップで出てきてその広告でこの本を知り、興味を持ちました。翻訳本は上下2巻で2冊合計で2万円くらいします。これはとても高いので図書館で借りて読んでみました。そして英語学習の為にこちらの原書を購入。You Tubeではこの本の編集者でrGeorge H Nashが講演会でこの本の要旨を説明している約50分の動画が投稿されているので役立ちます。この本を見て感じたことは、歴史というものは新たな発見や新たに公開された資料によって常に更新されていく性格のあるものということ、それと学校で学ぶ歴史というものは日本でも、中国でも、アメリカでも結局時の権力者が自分にとって都合の良いことを教科書にして生徒を洗脳しているようなもので学校で学ぶものは必ずしも事実や真実ではないこと。大切なのは自分で情報を収集し、分析し、考えることだと思います。

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戦後の日本を知る
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フーバー大統領とルーズベルト大統領との関係がよくわからなかったが、この本で一端が理解できた。
米国大統領は「2期8年」と今ではそうなっているが、ルーズベルトは違った。
彼との確執が読み取れる。
加えて、ルーズベルトの「仕込み（企み）」も見えてくる。
何故、フーバーは二選できなかったのかを考えながら読むと、色々な想像ができる。

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via japan ―ｐｅａｒｌ　ｈａｒｂｏｒ
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私の父親はインパール作戦で戦死したことから、この大東亜戦争の意義についての真実を知らなかったことから、アメリカについても一つのアメリカとだけと教育されこれについて何ら疑わなかった。しかしインターネットの進歩によってアメリカについても種々各方面から知ることもできるようになって、アメリカ共和党には親日家というか理日的方がおられることが知れるようになった。ハミルトンフィッシュ、がそうであると聞くとその著者の所を求めたりインターネットを駆使したりしその人物の真意やアメリカ人の心根等を知りたく私なりにじっくりと読み知識を広めることが私の人生における生き甲斐としているものでなのです。その読書は遅々としたものですがこれは私の宝です。
またそのうちウッデマイヤー回想録［原文］も読んでみたいと思いますが、アドルフヒトラーの我が闘争も読んでおりますので徐々に行こうかと思っておりますが兎に角フーバーのこの書物はハードカバーで研究者の辞書より少し大きいもの非常に良い本を求めたと感謝しております。

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fact-finding
eye opening facts revealed
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Former President Hoover has written a well organized and truth filled narration of events that led
the US into WW2 and its consequences. Well supported by appropriate references.
Hoover explains how communist countries played such a large behind the scenes role during WW2.
Truly eye opening. A must read for all.

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第二次世界大戦に何故アメリカが参戦したかを同時代の人間が資料に基づきつぶさに記録した本。また、なぜ日本が対米戦争を始めたのかも、アメリカ人目から見て記録されています。所謂、東京裁判史観しか認められない日本の歴史の本では知りえない事実が語られています。かなり小さめの活字で１，０００ページを読むのはたいへんですが歴史の真実を知りたいのであれば是非挑戦すべき本です。

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hij
FDR: the madman who caused the war between Japan and the U.S.
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本書は第31代アメリカ大統領ハーバート・フーバーの回顧録であるが、さまざまな
情報にアクセスできたアメリカの政治指導者が20年の歳月をかけて完成させた第
一級の第二次世界大戦秘史である。われわれの関心を惹くのは、フーバーがフラン
クリン・ルーズベルト大統領こそ不毛の日米戦争を仕掛けた張本人だとしてルーズ
ベルトを糾弾したことである。フーバーの糾弾は単なる政敵への攻撃ではない。そ
の論拠を公文書その他の信頼できる文書で示しているので、説得力が高い。

本書の邦訳は値段が高すぎる。原書は邦訳の３分の１以下の値段で買えるところが
よい（2019年3月現在で5,971円）。重要な政策決定のいきさつが原文ではどう表
現されているのか興味があるので、原書のほうを備えることにした。

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Ernst Friedel
Finally some true history
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I am glad that this book is finally on the market. It was for many years on the list of forbidden books.

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A ringing indictment of FDR and WWII
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This book is not fully a history, but rather an historic opinion piece. It is Herbert Hoover's exceptionally well reasoned (and well supported) position (and apparent opinion) that President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) drug the U.S. into WWII, when such could have been avoided (to the ultimate betterment of the world following WWII). Hoover backs up his position with innumerable quotes and citations, all of which are incorporated into the narrative in an exceedingly readable format (for the most part - more on that below). This was Hoover's Magnum Opus, never actually completed or published around the time it was written (circa 1963, at the time of Hoover's death), but now published (in 2011) following the extensive and masterful efforts of the editor (Dr. George H. Nash).

First of all, let me comment on the composition of the book itself. The book comprises four parts: (1) a rather long (120 pages or so) introduction by the editor (Dr. George H. Nash); (2) Vol. I (being a rather concise history of the events leading up to, and including, the global war following the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941); (3) Vol. II (being a concise history of the conferences between the Allies during the war itself); and (4) Vol. III, being a collection of Hoover's "Case Histories" of the post-war Communization of certain countries (and other post-war matters).

Being somewhat adverse to lengthy Introductions by persons other than the author, I skipped over the largest part of Dr. Nash's Introduction and went right to Vol. I. However, if you have the fortitude, it is worth reading the Introduction. But if you just want to cut-to-the-chase and start with Vol. I, then no harm is done. You can always go back and read the Introduction later (as I did).

Volumes I and II are the real meat of the matter. They are the most essential elements of the book, and are also the best organized and well edited (by Hoover, his staff, and Dr. Nash). If your reading time is precious to you, at the very least read Vols. I & II. These volumes alone will be sufficient to convince you that Hoover was on the right track in condemning FDR's activities and policies which resulted in the involvement of the U.S. in WWII, as well as in condemning FDR's activities and policies during the conduct of the war.

Volume III (the case histories) essentially comprises Hoover's last drafts and notes for the third volume of his Magnum Opus, and are quite rough in comparison to Vols. I & II. Vol. III suffers from: (i) lack of editing by Hoover (and his staff); and (ii) being written (in draft form at least) circa 1961 to 1963 (and thus not including much information which has subsequently to come to light). Notwithstanding, Vol. III is worth reading just for the official disclosures that it provides regarding such matters as: (i) the U.S. policy towards China following WWII (and how that policy that helped the Chinese communists come to power in 1949); and (ii) the egregious and short-sighted policies of the Allies towards Germany and how those policies stunted growth in Europe and the world in general following the war.

Now, I will give my personal views as to the content of the book and its importance to modern history.

Prior to reading this book it was my opinion (based on previous readings and basic logic) that FRD had drug the U.S. into WWII. This book confirmed my suspicions. However, my primary motivation for reading this book was to try to find out why FRD was so hell-bent on getting the U.S. involved in WWII. To that end, my expectations were not met. But this is not the fault of the author. The reason that Hoover was not able to document FRD's motivations for wanting to get the U.S. into WWII (which I'm sure Hoover would have done, were he able to do so) is most likely due to: (i) no such documentation exists; and/or (ii) any such documentation (such as personal diaries and the like) have been destroyed or suppressed. (Hoover based his research on over 25 million documents available to him and his research staff circa 1961, so if anything was available to him at this time regarding FRD's motives, I'm certain he would have included it in this tome.) In the end I concluded that, while FRD's personal motives remain a mystery (perhaps never to be solved), the bottom line is that FRD did, in fact, drag the U.S. into WWII. And U.S. involvement in WWII lead to the Cold War and all of the following problems (which we still suffer from to this day).

Hoover's warnings concerning the potential dangers of U.S. involvement in WWII are not just "Monday morning quarterbacking" or "hindsight" observations. Rather, Hoover was active at the time in warning of the potential dangers to the U.S. of getting involved in WWII. (See, for example, his speech of June 29, 1941 (pages 231-234) (i.e., prior to Pearl Harbor and declaration of war with Germany) warning of the unholy risks of aligning the U.S. with Stalin's USSR.)

So history is just that - history. And history is what has come and gone. Unfortunately, recorded history is not always an accurate record of what has actually come and gone. Hoover's Freedom Betrayed offers a well reasoned alternative to the commonly accepted history (i.e., the attack on Pearl Harbor) as the reason for U.S. involvement in WWII.

The result of FDR's policies and activities, which resulted getting the U.S. involved in WWII, were 400,000 U.S casualties (as of 1945), and a resulting cold war with the USSR. The biggest beneficiaries of U.S. involvement in WWII were: (i) the Soviet Union (USSR); (iii) the communists in China; and (iii) colonial Britain. None of which were to the benefit of the U.S.

So what's the significance of Hoover's Magnum Opus regarding FRD and WWII? Twofold: (i) we (as the American public) should insist on having verifiable assurance (from both Congress and the Executive office) that any extra-territorial involvement of U.S. forces should be done in an honest and open manner (the U.S. attack on Iraq in 2003 comes to mind); and (ii) the true legacy (or fallacy) of FDR as being the great defender of freedom in WWII (and the concomitant aftermath) should be taught in public schools (and in universities) in light of Hoover's disclosures in Freedom Betrayed.

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A nice, thick book that sheds light on an interesting period of American history. I recommend this book, a much misunderstood man about whom much utter nonsense has been spouted.

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I am in the process of reading this outstanding book. It is easy to read.I have a difficult time when I have to stop -it is so interesting. Many incovenient truths are mentioned about WW II and the Korean War.How 50,000 troops were left to "protect" South Korea, how American soldiers were betrayed by the leadership, how Gen MacArthur was forbidden to bomb Yalu River bridges on which Chinese were pouring in to pound on the Americans-the mission was doomed to failure because of Communist influence in our White House and on our foreign policy. I knew that Roosevelt's advisor, Harry Hopkins, was a Stalin's agent. Hoover writes simply, to the point, with facts on reasons behind many events that our propaganda machine lied to us.Even today, there is brainwashing going on similar to brainwashing the American People got that Hoover describes prior to WW II. The book may not be politically correct , but is full of very interesting facts that our high schools are not teaching.For a historian it should be a must read book.It is comparable to Aleksander Solzhenitsyn's last book "200 Years Together" which unfortunately is not yet available in english because it is being surpressed for the inconvenient truths that it contains. Here , in Hoover's "Freedom Betrayed... " you will find many inconvenient truths.I highly recommend it . There are very few books that will literally open your eyes. Another such book is Wyndham Lewis's "Count Your Dead:They Are Alive" written in 1937 predicting the outbreak of WW II to within a month.

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Gives the rest of the story about the run up to, conduct of and aftermath of WWII.
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Excellent. The first 12% is the editor explaining why this wasn't published in Hoover's lifetime and some other things. I mostly skipped this part. This Hoover's view of world events an US policy between the WWs and during WWII and after. The best way I can describe this book is like this: You take the standard information we have gotten about these years and this book is like one of Paul Harvey's the rest of the story. This book, taken with what we have already been told is the rest of the story that gives a more complete picture. This is NOT a political screed against FDR, the man who defeated him in his reelection bid in 1932. This is a balanced reasonable and documented recitation of what in large part has not gotten much attention and truly is the rest of the story. For example, he shows that from August of 1941 to late November 1941 the Japanese tried to get a peace agreement with us, but for reasons mentioned in the book FDR was trying to provoke Japan into shooting first. That they did so on Dec 7, 1941 was not a surprise. What did surprise FDR and his advisors was they thought Japan would attack somewhere in the Western Pacific, which they also did. FDR and his advisors were truly stunned when the attack came at Pearl Harbor in the Eastern Pacific.

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Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath (Hoover Institution Press Publication) ハードカバー – イラスト付き, 2011/11/17

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FDR: the madman who caused the war between Japan and the U.S.

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Finally some true history

A ringing indictment of FDR and WWII

a much misunderstood man

At Last Some Truth On Causes of Wars

Gives the rest of the story about the run up to, conduct of and aftermath of WWII.

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5つ星のうち5.0 Finally some true history

5つ星のうち5.0 A ringing indictment of FDR and WWII

5つ星のうち5.0 a much misunderstood man

5つ星のうち5.0 At Last Some Truth On Causes of Wars

5つ星のうち5.0 Gives the rest of the story about the run up to, conduct of and aftermath of WWII.

上位レビュー、対象国：日本

Finally some true history

A ringing indictment of FDR and WWII

a much misunderstood man

At Last Some Truth On Causes of Wars

Gives the rest of the story about the run up to, conduct of and aftermath of WWII.