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Sobering to realize that decisions occurring right now will determine if Africa’s northern sea will be the Mediterranean or Baltic.
Sweden’s strategy is to make Africa’s northern sea the Arctic Ocean.
Yes, this is true; meanwhile China is bullying its way into the Pacific theater. Africa will grow northward, and Asia will grow east and west. Europe, and its star child the Anglosphere will be overrun and squeezed out.
These truths are so certain you could bank on them and invest in their futures, if you cared to and if you had some unfortunate descendants you’d care to leave a pointless fortune to.
Here’s to hoping its Western one is the Atlantic.
I notice that Russia has no immigration concerns. As Ukraine breaks free of Russia will it become an immigration destination?
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don't know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine areReplies: @Lot, @Kevin O'Keeffe
Laughable that we, the world's "sole superpower", who lost in Iraq and lost in Afghanistan, is now suppose to vanquish Russia and Iran and God knows who else.
These are wars where there isn't anything to win anyway. Ukraine is a ludacris tar baby.
It's all about the MIC scaring us into an ever larger military budget and police state here at home. Brinksmanship in Ukraine means mucho $$$ for the Pentagon.
If people want to get the point of view of the kind of Algerians and other Africans who settle in France they should check out a video at YouTube called: “Médine – I’m Migrant Don’t Panik (Official Video With English Subtitles) “. It’s 10mins long and full of all the resentments and sense of entitlement of that hip-hop demographic in France’s suburbs. The video is shot in Algeria and Mauritania so you get to see what their home countries look like.
This mini-documentary is made by Médine, the same Muslim rapper who released an anti-secularism, anti-assimilation video in France about a week before the Charlie Hebdo massacres. It’s called “Médine – Don’t Laïk (Official Clip)” and the pictures speak for themselves. Please note the numerous times the throat cutting gesture is made along the gesture of cutting off a thief’s hand. The pointing at the sky gesture is a salute to Allah, the one God.
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/04/23/native-actors-walk-set-adam-sandler-movie-after-insults-women-elders-160110
The best part is this special snowflake describes how she come to understand stereotyping in action (referring back to courses she took at Dartmouth where she was instructed in such noticing -- way to go Dartmouth!). Anyone following that? The costume is a little off and someone is called Beaver's Breath . That's stereotyping circa 2015.Replies: @ben tillman
Then notice harder.
China will be taking Siberia within the next fifty years, especially if it warms up a lot.
Chinese can send their excess males--and yes that *is* a serious problem--to adventure in and colonize Africa ... or the USofA.
Europe should compromise and only let in Christian refugees from Muslim oppression. Liberals could say it’s ” Islamophobic”, but they couldn’t make it a race issue because the migrants would be black, brown, and yellow.
How about this ... Europe for native Europeans--without apology.
What's wrong with Islamophobia?
Europe lost its mojo after two world wars, revolutions, totalitarian governments, and the Holocaust. That’s just fact. And it looks like the US lost it in Vietnam, as well.
The West’s commitment to fairness, principle, and humanitarian is admirable on many levels. It is also suicidal. It’s also hopelessly naive about how the world works.
The West will assert itself again some day. I think.
How many chances does one get?
Most of the world is happy to kill the goose that lays golden eggs. One does not have to stumble much before the mob closes in and harvests you for today's meal.
It seems anytime you speak with someone about issues like this they always seem to mention how Europeans and Americans owe non-Europeans for the Crusades, colonialism, slavery, etc. Many have no idea that non-Europeans have dished out as much or more towards Europeans as they’ve received. It is an ignorance that is deliberately instilled by an education system refusing to teach history. I suppose it is what people on sites like this call, “the narrative”.
This is odd because most cultures seem to instill into each generation the abuses and slights suffered by previous ones at the hands of the other. Grudges towards other cultures can last generations. Now, I am not advocating punishing other groups for what happened two hundred years ago. I just find it odd that our culture focuses too much on the wrongs we have done to the exclusion of the wrongs that were done to us.
For example, how many people realize that a few million Europeans were enslaved by Turks and North Africans? How many realize the Crusades were a response to the original jihad? How many realize that various parts of Spain were occupied by non-Europeans for 700 years, or that parts of SE Europe were still under Turkish occupation a century ago?
This doesn’t forgive Europeans for the crimes they have committed towards others and towards each other. But it puts into context the struggles that often take place among population groups. Europeans are not very different, they just had better technology for the past 500 years. But even during that period of time, non-Europeans were still occupying parts of Europe and potentially threatening the rest.
Finally, I also find it interesting that most of the negative critique about Europeans seems to be focused on the Christian era. I don’t hear a lot of grief and guilt over the ancient Greeks or Romans, though both conquered other lands, took slaves and had a thing for blood sports.
Now we are letting Iran have nukes.Replies: @Anom
It's much easier and more effective to critique peoples that still exist, not their ancestors, especially when the critic's civilizational lens doesn't go that far back. But Al Sharpton took a swipe anyway, when he referenced all the African (was it Bantu, Igbo, Zulu African or dreamland pan-African) achievements like astrology, math and such that predated "all the Greek homos" :)) Then again, he might not be wrong, if he was simply appropriating the Egyptians, rather than inventing some Sub-Saharan wonder tribe no one ever saw fit to mention, describe or record.Replies: @Kat Grey
According to the European press, Russia is actually boasting about having accepted a lot of immigrants in the last couple of years, mostly from the Caucasus region, as well as hundreds of thousands of refugees from the Ukraine war zone. One reason may be that pensions, for example, are higher in Russia than in Ukraine.
Ukraine, like any country at war, is generating a lot of refugees. Many are seeking asylum in Poland, and an estimated 300,000 are already in Poland on short work permits, and more illegally. Suddenly, in the last couple of years one began to hear Russian (or Ukrainian) in the streets of Warsaw (and there are only 10,000 Russian immigrants in Poland). The men work mostly in construction, the girls as au pairs or caregivers. Even foreign PUAs in Poland have noticed the influx of Ukrainian women, and Roosh V, the king of PUAs, has recently returned to Poland from Ukraine deeming the latter unsafe. The Ukrainians cannot believe how much Poland has surged ahead since freeing itself from the Soviet yoke, and want the same thing, contrary to the opinion often expressed here that paints Victoria Nuland as the bete noire, and as the prime mover behind the recent events. Most Ukrainians truly want to get closer to the West, and farther from the Russian bear hug.
By the way, about 10 years ago I saw the U.S. government stats showing about 70,000 Russians and 60,000 Ukrainians immigrating to the U.S. each year.
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don’t know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine are
The anti-Russian party's anti-democratic coup was extremely contrary to Ukraine's economic interests.
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don’t know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine are"
I can report that here in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, we have a significant Ukrainian immigrant community. They seem to be mainly blue-collar/working class, actually ethnic Ukrainians, as opposed to all the "Russian" immigrants I'd previously seen in the Bay Area (who were invariably Jewish).
The West's commitment to fairness, principle, and humanitarian is admirable on many levels. It is also suicidal. It's also hopelessly naive about how the world works.
The West will assert itself again some day. I think.Replies: @bomag, @PA, @Bill
The West will assert itself again some day. I think.
How many chances does one get?
Most of the world is happy to kill the goose that lays golden eggs. One does not have to stumble much before the mob closes in and harvests you for today’s meal.
Better yet, Calogero, the West should trade the Muslims living here for Arab Christians that are being terrorized in Islamic countries. It is a win-win. The Christians get to live in freedom, free of fear of attack, and the Muslims get to live under Sharia. Problem solved.
Black African Christians are just as bad as black African Muslims. Remember Al Sharpton is a black Christian. In general, Third Worlders are a menace and a liability regardless of their religion.
People have natural jealousies. They see money, wealth, and status that they want and selectively choose historical grievances to rationalize their jealousy. People are very jealous of whites, USA, Europeans, and Christians, and find grievances to justify their jealousies. US slavery was a legitimate atrocity, but it’s popular due to its usefulness in the present as a rationalization towards power grabs from US whites. Atrocities that have no present day use of rationalizing jealousies are ignored. If, for example, you bring up human rights atrocities committed by the ancestors of people of Yemen or tribes in Africa, what good does that do? Their present day descendants have nothing to take, so why waste your breath?
The West's commitment to fairness, principle, and humanitarian is admirable on many levels. It is also suicidal. It's also hopelessly naive about how the world works.
The West will assert itself again some day. I think.Replies: @bomag, @PA, @Bill
Europe lost its mojo after two world wars, revolutions, totalitarian governments, and the Holocaust.
Nonsense. Wars and other things are a human constant.
The only thing that can sap a nation’s mojo is letting itself and its children be a captive audience to a cradle-to-grave, morning to night propagation of the kinds of messages that cause you to lose your mojo.
The Western world had an unprecedented baby boom right after said wars. A newborn Dutch or Czech or Irish baby doesn’t know he’s supposed to feel bad about the Holocaust.
The carnage was remarkable and so was the depiction of that carnage. So was the moral inwardness inspired by that destruction. I think it's fair to say that one reason the European empires collapsed was because of these wars, etc. and this moral awakening (if you want to call it that) also inspired the Civil Rights movement, the human rights movement, and cradle to grave socialism.
From a religious, moral POV that's all good, but from a practical dog-eat-dog perspective it is not good. The rest of the world would, without hesitation, eat up all our assets if they could, and dominate us, if they could. In short, the wars, etc. has caused the West to become more introspective and empathetic, and they have been able to afford it, because of the fabulous wealth we have enjoyed since the late '40's. It can't last forever, either because it will lead to self-destruction or else the money will run out, and when that happens people retrench and start looking out for themselves. But it hasn't happened yet.Replies: @Horzabky
That ain’t happening. Russia has nukes.
Chinese can send their excess males–and yes that *is* a serious problem–to adventure in and colonize Africa … or the USofA.
The worthless history textbooks they used in school to teach us from didn’t go into any of that nor did the worthless teachers seem to know anything. A person has to go out and find these things out on their own if they have the interest and the time.
Suicide. There’s near 100m of those just in Nigeria.
How about this … Europe for native Europeans–without apology.
Good for them. Adam Sandler’s jackass jewish humor is just a net subtraction from civilization. (I think the reaction of most normal people to him is “go away”.) He’s obnoxious and ugly and if he stopped making movies and went off into the woods to spend the rest of his life in meditation … the world would be a tiny bit better place.
These truths are so certain you could bank on them and invest in their futures, if you cared to and if you had some unfortunate descendants you'd care to leave a pointless fortune to.Replies: @Honorary Thief
Pretty depressing. Here’s a to future full of suck!
I saw some data on the Japanese population the other day that is pertinent here. Over 25% of the Japanese population is now 65 or older and that the elderly now outnumber those under 15 by 2 to 1. Italy is approaching this as is Germany.
While Japan is not being threatened with a flood of immigrants Europe is and if there is little danger of native Italians or Germans not being capable of electing a government of their choice the problem maybe that such a government may lack the physical ability to enforce the laws they pass.
You need young males between 18 and 40 or so to be the business end of any government. Wisdom may come with age but the ability to arrest people or physically compel people to do things they don’t want is a young man’s game. Now if you look at a population pyramid of Italy, e.g. you see that there are projected to be only about 7 million males between the ages of 20 and 40 in 2020 out of total population of more than 60 million. Now most of those Italian men ( even with the high youth unemployment ) are going to be unavailable to be used as gendarmes of the Italian government so if Italy has a million or so young African ‘migrants’ selling drugs and trinkets on the streets of Rome, Milan etc and the Italian people say ‘enough send them back’ the ability of the state to enforce its democratic mandate without a full scale mobilization of the population is dubious.
There was a time when blacks in the American South migrated north. It’s been said it was over segregation, but that is probably an exaggeration because there was much racial division and discrimination in the North too. The main reason was probably jobs. There were lots of jobs in Northern factories.
Likewise, even during Apartheid, no South African black moved to black-ruled African nations, but plenty of black Africans in neighboring nations went to white-ruled South Africa for jobs(despite apartheid).
It’s like even when US was racially discriminatory against Chinese, many Chinese wanted to come here than stay in China under Chinese rule. And as Derbyshire says, many Chinese, even as they resented imperialism, sought refuge in British concessions than remain in Chinese ruled areas where warlords and corrupt bureaucrats had the power.
Today, many blacks in the North are going back down south cuz low-level jobs have dried up in the North. Factories have gone to China and Mexico. And businesses prefer to hire Hispanics for low level jobs. North is generally Democratic whereas South is Republican, but blacks still migrate in huge numbers to the south cuz there are more jobs there.
Still, the narrative says southern blacks migrated north for more freedom as there was white ‘racism’ and oppression in the south.
Now, what are we to say about Africa and Europe? Africa is ruled by blacks. There is no white oppression there. So, why are blacks fleeing black rule? Why are blacks fleeing blacks?
On the slave debate, there’s almost no talk of how blacks caught blacks and sold them.
The narrative only begins with whites taking africans over seas and using them as slaves.
But there would have been no slave trade if blacks didn’t catch and sell. Because we overlook that history, we only put moral burden on whites.
Same in this migration narrative. All the talk is about what white nations must do and are responsible for. There is no talk of why black Africa sucks so bad under black rule.
Best would be for all white Libs to move to Africa and run the economy for blacks so that blacks will stay there.
As for white cons, they stay in the West.
Everybody is happy.
I liked The Wedding Singer. Everything else he has done as been unadulterated sh1t. How is it he is even allowed through the gates of a movie studio without them setting the dogs on him?
Adam Sandler · Net worth $300 million USD (2015)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen
@ Liberals could say it’s ” Islamophobic”
What’s wrong with Islamophobia?
Fearmongering?
There are 500 m people in Europe, a whopping 1% of those seem to be of SSA origin. Even if there are a few hundred thousand immigrants for the next years, nothing much will happen.
If there were a really significant increase in immigration very soon there would be rather strict immigration restrictions. I suppose, the French level of SSA immigrants is pretty much on the edge. Most European countries probably won’t let it get so high.
I trust that you fully understand what 'exponential growth' actually and eventually entails.
Or is that your idea of nothing much happening?
The real problem has not even been discussed here. Presuming global warming get worse, (it may or may not) there will be a serious cycle of drought and famines.
Guess who will be guilted into taking all the refugees???
Global warming has not happened for 19 years and counting. Same average temp. So no sunnier climes for the masses for a while.
The ice caps are not melting so no new sea front property for the masses for a while.
The weather changes the climate not so much.
However if those pesky Russian scientists are correct, we may be in for a spate of global cooling.
Seriously, if there is real global warming going on, and it has been going on for a while, yet the current average temps have not changed for 20 years; then how much colder would we be right now without the greenhouse gas warming thing?
Ukraine is not “breaking free” of Russia. Putin & Co will not allow it.
Laughable that we, the world’s “sole superpower”, who lost in Iraq and lost in Afghanistan, is now suppose to vanquish Russia and Iran and God knows who else.
These are wars where there isn’t anything to win anyway. Ukraine is a ludacris tar baby.
It’s all about the MIC scaring us into an ever larger military budget and police state here at home. Brinksmanship in Ukraine means mucho $$$ for the Pentagon.
his movies are cheap to make and usually draw a good amount. I don’t like them, but a lot of blue collar people do. Happy Gilmore is a classic however
Sounds like a riff on the old joke, “Garibaldi didn’t unite Italy, he divided Africa.”
We did have the Maxim gun. And they did not…
Now we are letting Iran have nukes.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.Replies: @Nathan Wartooth, @Rob McX, @Lurker, @Numinous
It’s being undermined from within by a fast-growing Muslim population. The birth rate of the non-Muslims is very low (well below replacement).
“China will be taking Siberia within the next fifty years, especially if it warms up a lot.”
Maybe not, with all those nukes and new Sukhoi models, many of which probably make pretty good strike planes. Maybe not the best planes in the world, but maybe adequate against China. Can China even make good jet engines yet? That seems a lot harder than it sounds.
And those S-400s sound pretty good, we and the Israelis seem countered due to the Russians finally deciding to supply the Iranians with S-300s.
Lead times for this stuff is getting longer and longer.
Russia is building up its presence in Siberia. Their new big rocket-launch complex, to replace Baikonur in Kazakstan, is Vostochny in the Russian Far East.
“Sweden’s strategy“.
Now we are letting Iran have nukes.Replies: @Anom
It’s easy. All Europe has to do is: nothing.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/33ca62/australian_universities_are_pressuring_academics/
If you follow the news link, it's about Australian universities letting international students get a pass when they cheat.
There are 1,200 comments and since Reddit is mostly college kids, they all have their own story about how they saw international students, especially Chinese, Indian and Arabs cheating. A couple of teachers chimed in saying that they have reported plagiarism and it got ignored by the administration.Replies: @Lurker
That's about it. If you discovered that a burglar coming to break into your house met with an accident on the way, you wouldn't be going out of your way to give him medical assistance, much less take him to your house and let him help himself to your belongings.
Got any links? I'd like to know the profile of these students and the universities where this sort of stuff happens. Universities need to be a lot more discerning about who they admit, and not take in anyone whose mommy or daddy can pay the exorbitant non-resident tuition. More aptitude tests instead.
“Europe lost its mojo after two world wars, revolutions, totalitarian governments, and the Holocaust. That’s just fact. And it looks like the US lost it in Vietnam, as well.”
Perhaps. But maybe it was just the straight-jacket of television.
No one, certainly not a politician, can ever do anything that can ever, in any way, be shown to appear as “not nice”.
It’s like a movie where some Nice White Ladies have to live up to all the little white lies that they made just to make people feel comfortable. They didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, because they didn’t want their reputations to suffer. So they have no freedom of action, they have to live the lies. Round-the-clock acting, without thought about long-term consequences, just about how the reality show looks second-by-second.
https://kakistocracyblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/a-trillion-africans-by-2350/
(This is the blog of the tweeter featured in this post)
Never doubt that this could happen. Nothing–not even deadly AIDS–can dissuade Africans from f—-ing raw dog.
Mr. Sailer wrote:
And our own Dear Rulers’ strategy is to make Mexico’s northern sea the Great Lakes.
Sweden’s strategy is to make Africa’s northern sea the Arctic Ocean.
Sweden YES!
Actors quit L.A. ‘Ferguson’ play, question writer’s motives
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ferguson-play-20150423-story.html
They will overrun Ontario too, so make that Hudson Bay….and it’s salt.
It’s currently high on the hasbara and neocon agenda to paint every conflict worldwide as a battle between Islam and the West, but it would be an awful idea to take African “Christians” in because of real or imagined persecution by Moslems. A cursory look at the continent will show plenty of violence/brutality/savagery involving African Christians. Seriously, in terms of awful ideas about solving the problem, this has to be one of the most awful.
You have summed up nicely some things I only manage to whine about.
Indeed.
I differ from you on one item though:
It is becoming increasingly clear through the science of HBD that Europeans are in fact different in some very important ways that lead to that 500 years.
That 500 years built a European planetary civilization that has nurtured the non-Europeans to the point that the weeds will overtake the garden.
“Europe should compromise and only let in Christian refugees from Muslim oppression.”
Rwanda is 94% Christian. Most American blacks are Christian. Most Haitian blacks are Christian.
You were saying?
Life in Africa is so desperate that even lots of people drowning will not stop the flood of refugees. Moreover, Africans already mostly know friends of friends living and working in Europe, so they know it can be done. There are 1.1 Billion Africans, and the continent can support at most 300 million or so, if that, under African rule.
So they will come. And come. And come.
To stop them, nations such as Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Croatia, and Greece must build a proper navy. Spain has according to Wiki:
1 multipurpose helicopter/aircraft carrier
6 Frigates
5 AEGIS Destroyers
3 submarines
6 mine hunters
4 Corvettes
17 patrol ships
Which is not anywhere near enough to cover Spain’s part of the Med. The Spanish navy would need to be four/five times as big just to have enough ships on station patrolling and sending people back.
Moreover the history of trying to stop raiders from North Africa is a poor one. Neither Charles I nor Philip II of Spain during the height of their power could do it. Not even the Holy League combined after Lepanto could do it. It took France colonizing Algeria and stationing lots of troops there permanently to stop raiding there and also from Libya and Morocco.
To stop about 100 million Africans from moving into Europe in the next few years, Europe would have to build and equip and man a massive Med-based Navy. From, let us be frank, nearly nothing. Spain’s navy is massive compared to Italy’s, or Greece’s navy. Europe will also have to establish defacto colonies in Libya, and Tunisia. With constant casualties and grinding warfare that involves. Europe has neither the will nor the young men; half the men under age 30 in France are Muslim IIRC.
Finally, there is the Feminism factor. Most White middle class and particularly Upper Class women figure prosperity and modern Western society “just happen.” They are enraged in particular by how White geeky guys create new tech all the time that makes “spot the Alpha” much harder. The Dogs that never barked were the lack of women all over Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates in his day. Both men were easy targets for any adventuress, and believe me all men prefer younger and hotter women to uglier and older ones. Both had to settle, one for an employee of marginal attractiveness and the other for a long-time girlfriend.
Jared Leto and Wilmer Valderrama, two minor actors in Hollywood, had better, hotter, younger, and more women than the two major single captains of industry. Lesson? Women detest male intelligence unless it is spiked with social dominance and charisma and more than a bit of cruelty.
Particularly the Maureen Dowds, the Tina Feys, the Sheryl Sandbergs, believe that drowning White geeky guys in a sea of Africans will just STOP the tech and social churn and allow them to spot White Male Alphas easier. No more Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerbergs. Just an ocean of Jared Letos and Wilmer Valderramas.
Don't send people back. Machine-gun the boats, show it on television. You won't have to do it too many times.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Vox offers a solution: http://vox.com/e/8226260?utm_campaign=dylanmatt&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Got that?
If I could be a bit more direct, "it's OK to let in millions of uneducated, unskilled workers because the millions of Americans who no longer will be able to find work (how many lawns are there to cut? Dishes to wash? ) will simply be paid not to work by increasing the tax burden on the shrinking percentage of people who can 'afford' to lift said burden.
Most interesting was Caplan's argument comparing the potential inundation with the introduction of women into the work force 45 years ago. He asserts that this caused the economy to grow and not contract. Yet, he seems either to be completely ignorant of the fact that the stall and ultimate decline in wage growth nearly perfectly correlates when women entered.
Yes, the total size of the economy grew. But the wages taken home by the average worker went down.
How, exactly, does this militate for arguing that it will be beneficial to the average American to open the borders?Replies: @Dave Pinsen
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don't know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine areReplies: @Lot, @Kevin O'Keeffe
It’s true that all things being equal, the EU is a better partner than Russia. But it wasn’t equal. Both were offering competing aid deals to Ukraine, but Russia’s was several times bigger since it values Ukraine much more than Europe.
The anti-Russian party’s anti-democratic coup was extremely contrary to Ukraine’s economic interests.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.Replies: @Nathan Wartooth, @Rob McX, @Lurker, @Numinous
If you want to read all about international students cheating and their teachers letting them, check out this Reddit thread:
If you follow the news link, it’s about Australian universities letting international students get a pass when they cheat.
There are 1,200 comments and since Reddit is mostly college kids, they all have their own story about how they saw international students, especially Chinese, Indian and Arabs cheating. A couple of teachers chimed in saying that they have reported plagiarism and it got ignored by the administration.
Maybe not, with all those nukes and new Sukhoi models, many of which probably make pretty good strike planes. Maybe not the best planes in the world, but maybe adequate against China. Can China even make good jet engines yet? That seems a lot harder than it sounds.
And those S-400s sound pretty good, we and the Israelis seem countered due to the Russians finally deciding to supply the Iranians with S-300s.
Lead times for this stuff is getting longer and longer.
Russia is building up its presence in Siberia. Their new big rocket-launch complex, to replace Baikonur in Kazakstan, is Vostochny in the Russian Far East.Replies: @David M.
China will probably also realize that it is cheaper to just buy the resources from Russia rather than fight a costly war over them. Russia seems quite enthusiastic about selling resources to China. Also China’s population is not growing very fast, and it already has a large underpopulated and inhospitable hinterland to fill up, so there’s no need to conquer a new one.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.Replies: @Nathan Wartooth, @Rob McX, @Lurker, @Numinous
It’s easy. All Europe has to do is: nothing.
That’s about it. If you discovered that a burglar coming to break into your house met with an accident on the way, you wouldn’t be going out of your way to give him medical assistance, much less take him to your house and let him help himself to your belongings.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/33ca62/australian_universities_are_pressuring_academics/
If you follow the news link, it's about Australian universities letting international students get a pass when they cheat.
There are 1,200 comments and since Reddit is mostly college kids, they all have their own story about how they saw international students, especially Chinese, Indian and Arabs cheating. A couple of teachers chimed in saying that they have reported plagiarism and it got ignored by the administration.Replies: @Lurker
I suppose this is the outcome when you turn education into a pure business, a mill for turning out the credentialed.
Perhaps. But maybe it was just the straight-jacket of television.
No one, certainly not a politician, can ever do anything that can ever, in any way, be shown to appear as "not nice".
It's like a movie where some Nice White Ladies have to live up to all the little white lies that they made just to make people feel comfortable. They didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, because they didn't want their reputations to suffer. So they have no freedom of action, they have to live the lies. Round-the-clock acting, without thought about long-term consequences, just about how the reality show looks second-by-second.Replies: @Lurker, @ingo
It’s “not nice” to subject nice white localities to Somalis but thats what TPTB have been up to in the US, the UK and elsewhere but the majority never get to see that as “not nice” because – who, whom, the megaphone.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.Replies: @Nathan Wartooth, @Rob McX, @Lurker, @Numinous
Not scared. No. Just doesn’t want to.
China’s population is currently growing at the rate of 7 million a year, India’s at 16 million a year, the world’s population is growing at about 85 million a year
OT: countdown to British elections on May 7. The EU seems to be making appeasing motions to discourage UKIP voting, and the polls seemed to be rigged to undercount UKIP. This election will be very interesting.
One would have thought that the Daily Mail would be natural UKIP supporters, but no, they are doing everything in their power to destroy UKIP, probably because they are in bed with the Tories and see UKIP as unwelcome competition.
The notable exception is the Daily Express and its owner, Richard Desmond.
In Soviet Russian white man’s burden, world colonizes you!
Read the article. Whatever one thinks of Sandler, this is so typical of the SJW snowflakes we are mass producing in our universities. A former film student working as an actor (minor of course) is insulted that the film’s producers won’t change the film’s script because extremely minor details ‘offend’ her. The offenses? Having Navajo wear outfits more appropriate for Comanche (quick, I’m about to faint!) and referring to one female character as ‘Beaver’s Breath’ (clutches at pearls, collapses).
The best part is this special snowflake describes how she come to understand stereotyping in action (referring back to courses she took at Dartmouth where she was instructed in such noticing — way to go Dartmouth!). Anyone following that? The costume is a little off and someone is called Beaver’s Breath . That’s stereotyping circa 2015.
Adam Sandler’s movies make millions that’s why. You and I think they are crap but their target demographic is 11 year old boys and they love them. His movies are geared to the 11 year old mind, not yours.
Adam Sandler · Net worth $300 million USD (2015)
Most of his other movies I can't watch.
I think it’s less guilt over there than it is another excuse to hate the Germans.
The Russian Far East and Siberia may actually be a perfect place to send the superfluous Sub Saharan population. As you say, the Chinese are not breeding, neither are the Russians or Koreans. The Africans can go work in the timber and extractive industries, and maybe the climate will keep their birth rate at a reasonable level. We could offer African refugees a choice, go back home or work in the Siberian timber industry.
As I mentioned above, China is still undergoing a population explosion - growing at the rate of 6-7 million a year, with about 60,000 emigrating to the United States every year, and more to Australia and Canada. Despite the one-child policy, the rapid growth is still continuing due to demographic momentum
And then after 100,000 years of dealing with a challenging environment, they might acquire the missing 10 I.Q. points they lack.
There. I said it!
Notice also that virtually the entirety of the UK press and TV media are doing their damndest to undermine and attack UKIP.
One would have thought that the Daily Mail would be natural UKIP supporters, but no, they are doing everything in their power to destroy UKIP, probably because they are in bed with the Tories and see UKIP as unwelcome competition.
The notable exception is the Daily Express and its owner, Richard Desmond.
Adam Sandler · Net worth $300 million USD (2015)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen
I bet that among 1992 cast of Saturday Night Live, Bush and Perot beat Clinton about 2 to 1.
...which means the rest + Tim Meadows (who always struck me as independent and sensible) would be in the non-Clinton category. One might be tempted to put Mike Myers in the (D) category, but his non-participation in WWG means to me he's also likely quite sensible, too.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
https://screen.yahoo.com/cold-opening-bush-clinton-perot-000000359.html
There are 500 m people in Europe, a whopping 1% of those seem to be of SSA origin. Even if there are a few hundred thousand immigrants for the next years, nothing much will happen.
If there were a really significant increase in immigration very soon there would be rather strict immigration restrictions. I suppose, the French level of SSA immigrants is pretty much on the edge. Most European countries probably won't let it get so high.Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @Kylie
All mass third world immigration to the west has turned out, historically, to be exponential in nature. I’m not aware of any exceptions.
I trust that you fully understand what ‘exponential growth’ actually and eventually entails.
The constraints of the biosphere are fixed according to scientists, specifically Edward O. Wilson in his book The Future of Life. The upper, upper, limit, even if everyone were to become vegetarian and things were to stay at high levels of efficiency, is slightly under 10 billion. But I think we all know that things like pivot farming in America’s bread basket, efficiency of food production and distribution, et al., will decline as demographics shift. It is because of whites and the petroleum (efficient machine farming, etc) that billions of Africans and Arabs are alive.
Africans will hear the horror stories and back off from getting on leaky boats. Problem solved. It looks like the Europeans are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S. It went down the memory hole, but it sounds like a serious problem, that academia is too scared to confront.Replies: @Nathan Wartooth, @Rob McX, @Lurker, @Numinous
Incidentally Steve, there was an article that appeared somewhere about the massive cheating epidemic amongst Indian college students in the U.S.
Got any links? I’d like to know the profile of these students and the universities where this sort of stuff happens. Universities need to be a lot more discerning about who they admit, and not take in anyone whose mommy or daddy can pay the exorbitant non-resident tuition. More aptitude tests instead.
In Europe, between 1914 and call it 1956, something on the order of a hundred million Europeans lost their lives and/or property and/or were forced to move or migrate. Something like that hadn’t happened in Europe since the Thirty Years War, 300 years before. It doesn’t happen every day.
The carnage was remarkable and so was the depiction of that carnage. So was the moral inwardness inspired by that destruction. I think it’s fair to say that one reason the European empires collapsed was because of these wars, etc. and this moral awakening (if you want to call it that) also inspired the Civil Rights movement, the human rights movement, and cradle to grave socialism.
From a religious, moral POV that’s all good, but from a practical dog-eat-dog perspective it is not good. The rest of the world would, without hesitation, eat up all our assets if they could, and dominate us, if they could. In short, the wars, etc. has caused the West to become more introspective and empathetic, and they have been able to afford it, because of the fabulous wealth we have enjoyed since the late ’40’s. It can’t last forever, either because it will lead to self-destruction or else the money will run out, and when that happens people retrench and start looking out for themselves. But it hasn’t happened yet.
Out of Africa, Redux.
Guess who will be guilted into taking all the refugees???Replies: @CK
Warmer weather, better crops, more food.
Global warming has not happened for 19 years and counting. Same average temp. So no sunnier climes for the masses for a while.
The ice caps are not melting so no new sea front property for the masses for a while.
The weather changes the climate not so much.
However if those pesky Russian scientists are correct, we may be in for a spate of global cooling.
Seriously, if there is real global warming going on, and it has been going on for a while, yet the current average temps have not changed for 20 years; then how much colder would we be right now without the greenhouse gas warming thing?
I think you might have to ask the Russians what they think about that.
The best part is this special snowflake describes how she come to understand stereotyping in action (referring back to courses she took at Dartmouth where she was instructed in such noticing -- way to go Dartmouth!). Anyone following that? The costume is a little off and someone is called Beaver's Breath . That's stereotyping circa 2015.Replies: @ben tillman
I think it’s wonderful, and it’s something that Whites should be doing as the only group lower on the totem pole than American Indians. The fact that such joking is permitted reminds us of how disingenuous the Left is. Whites are evil because we “stole” the land from Indians. But somehow the land doesn’t belong to the putative victims; instead, it belongs to the Left. In other words, the Left is stealing the land from us and/or the Indians, and Whites and Indians are subject to similar mocking in the mass entertainment media.
So they will come. And come. And come.
To stop them, nations such as Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Croatia, and Greece must build a proper navy. Spain has according to Wiki:
1 multipurpose helicopter/aircraft carrier
6 Frigates
5 AEGIS Destroyers
3 submarines
6 mine hunters
4 Corvettes
17 patrol ships
Which is not anywhere near enough to cover Spain's part of the Med. The Spanish navy would need to be four/five times as big just to have enough ships on station patrolling and sending people back.
Moreover the history of trying to stop raiders from North Africa is a poor one. Neither Charles I nor Philip II of Spain during the height of their power could do it. Not even the Holy League combined after Lepanto could do it. It took France colonizing Algeria and stationing lots of troops there permanently to stop raiding there and also from Libya and Morocco.
To stop about 100 million Africans from moving into Europe in the next few years, Europe would have to build and equip and man a massive Med-based Navy. From, let us be frank, nearly nothing. Spain's navy is massive compared to Italy's, or Greece's navy. Europe will also have to establish defacto colonies in Libya, and Tunisia. With constant casualties and grinding warfare that involves. Europe has neither the will nor the young men; half the men under age 30 in France are Muslim IIRC.
Finally, there is the Feminism factor. Most White middle class and particularly Upper Class women figure prosperity and modern Western society "just happen." They are enraged in particular by how White geeky guys create new tech all the time that makes "spot the Alpha" much harder. The Dogs that never barked were the lack of women all over Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates in his day. Both men were easy targets for any adventuress, and believe me all men prefer younger and hotter women to uglier and older ones. Both had to settle, one for an employee of marginal attractiveness and the other for a long-time girlfriend.
Jared Leto and Wilmer Valderrama, two minor actors in Hollywood, had better, hotter, younger, and more women than the two major single captains of industry. Lesson? Women detest male intelligence unless it is spiked with social dominance and charisma and more than a bit of cruelty.
Particularly the Maureen Dowds, the Tina Feys, the Sheryl Sandbergs, believe that drowning White geeky guys in a sea of Africans will just STOP the tech and social churn and allow them to spot White Male Alphas easier. No more Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerbergs. Just an ocean of Jared Letos and Wilmer Valderramas.Replies: @anonymous, @Bill, @athEIst
That’s one of the key elements. Those already within the tent impart information to those outside, giving them information on how to navigate and game the system. They are the internal spies working against the host population.
The West's commitment to fairness, principle, and humanitarian is admirable on many levels. It is also suicidal. It's also hopelessly naive about how the world works.
The West will assert itself again some day. I think.Replies: @bomag, @PA, @Bill
The West breathed its last at Versailles. Everything since has been rubble bouncing and the world casting around for what comes next. The West is deader than a door nail.
Weird how rarely we hear from the Saudi, Qatari, and Kuwaiti states’ victim groups, then.
There are 500 m people in Europe, a whopping 1% of those seem to be of SSA origin. Even if there are a few hundred thousand immigrants for the next years, nothing much will happen.
If there were a really significant increase in immigration very soon there would be rather strict immigration restrictions. I suppose, the French level of SSA immigrants is pretty much on the edge. Most European countries probably won't let it get so high.Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @Kylie
African immigration: we’ll only put it in a little bit.
Why is Steve so hung up on the idea of a nation state worth fighting for anyway, if the average American is going to look like turkmenbashi or your mexican illegal then better let ISIS take over the whole thing anyway, again what’s the point.
So they will come. And come. And come.
To stop them, nations such as Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Croatia, and Greece must build a proper navy. Spain has according to Wiki:
1 multipurpose helicopter/aircraft carrier
6 Frigates
5 AEGIS Destroyers
3 submarines
6 mine hunters
4 Corvettes
17 patrol ships
Which is not anywhere near enough to cover Spain's part of the Med. The Spanish navy would need to be four/five times as big just to have enough ships on station patrolling and sending people back.
Moreover the history of trying to stop raiders from North Africa is a poor one. Neither Charles I nor Philip II of Spain during the height of their power could do it. Not even the Holy League combined after Lepanto could do it. It took France colonizing Algeria and stationing lots of troops there permanently to stop raiding there and also from Libya and Morocco.
To stop about 100 million Africans from moving into Europe in the next few years, Europe would have to build and equip and man a massive Med-based Navy. From, let us be frank, nearly nothing. Spain's navy is massive compared to Italy's, or Greece's navy. Europe will also have to establish defacto colonies in Libya, and Tunisia. With constant casualties and grinding warfare that involves. Europe has neither the will nor the young men; half the men under age 30 in France are Muslim IIRC.
Finally, there is the Feminism factor. Most White middle class and particularly Upper Class women figure prosperity and modern Western society "just happen." They are enraged in particular by how White geeky guys create new tech all the time that makes "spot the Alpha" much harder. The Dogs that never barked were the lack of women all over Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates in his day. Both men were easy targets for any adventuress, and believe me all men prefer younger and hotter women to uglier and older ones. Both had to settle, one for an employee of marginal attractiveness and the other for a long-time girlfriend.
Jared Leto and Wilmer Valderrama, two minor actors in Hollywood, had better, hotter, younger, and more women than the two major single captains of industry. Lesson? Women detest male intelligence unless it is spiked with social dominance and charisma and more than a bit of cruelty.
Particularly the Maureen Dowds, the Tina Feys, the Sheryl Sandbergs, believe that drowning White geeky guys in a sea of Africans will just STOP the tech and social churn and allow them to spot White Male Alphas easier. No more Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerbergs. Just an ocean of Jared Letos and Wilmer Valderramas.Replies: @anonymous, @Bill, @athEIst
Whiskey.
The Spanish need to buy some fishing boats. “Turn around or we’ll sink you with our trusty .50 machine gun.” They could even, like, bolt it to the deck so it doesn’t, like, jump around while they shoot it. Optional, I guess.
Also, the Spanish today, unlike the Spanish of the f*cking Renaissance, have this thing called radar. I’ll wait while Whiskey googles.
. . .
No, Whiskey, not the guy on M*A*S*H. No Whiskey, Hotlips was not pretty. No Whiskey, Alan Alda did not play an alpha. Whiskey, I don’t know whether you can still subscribe to nudist magazines.
Actually, don’t bother. You see, with radar, the Spanish can “see” the boats coming from far away. Even further if they think to put the radar on airplanes (you know about airplanes?). Do I tell him about altitude and horizon distance and stuff (even though it involves square roots)? As fortune would have it, they DID think to put the radar on planes. YAY!!!
Oh, no! The radar on the plane will see the immigrant boat. The converted fishing boat with machine gun will be all ready to intercept. But, but, but . . . how does the pilot tell the fishing boat where to go!!?! Maybe he can fly over it and drop a bottle with a note? Damn, this military stuff is hard. No wonder Whiskey has trouble with it. It would be nice if there was a way for the airplane-with-radar guys to talk to the fishing-boat-with-machine-gun guys. I hope somebody thought to work on that since Lepanto . . .
Funny, I have this craving for Macaroni all of a sudden.
As it turns out, “running X like a business” is usually a bad idea.
Perhaps. But maybe it was just the straight-jacket of television.
No one, certainly not a politician, can ever do anything that can ever, in any way, be shown to appear as "not nice".
It's like a movie where some Nice White Ladies have to live up to all the little white lies that they made just to make people feel comfortable. They didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, because they didn't want their reputations to suffer. So they have no freedom of action, they have to live the lies. Round-the-clock acting, without thought about long-term consequences, just about how the reality show looks second-by-second.Replies: @Lurker, @ingo
Perhaps. But maybe it is just the straight jacket of the female vote.
An interesting article from the American Conservative pointing out how Europe differs from the USA on the topic of mass immigration:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/europe-cant-avoid-immigration/
“…the Chinese are not breeding…”
As I mentioned above, China is still undergoing a population explosion – growing at the rate of 6-7 million a year, with about 60,000 emigrating to the United States every year, and more to Australia and Canada. Despite the one-child policy, the rapid growth is still continuing due to demographic momentum
I’ve got Rock, Cleghorne & Franken as the only sure fire (D) votes there; of the five (white) women (Sweeney, Hutsell, V Jackson, Cahill & S. Fallon), assume Jackson for Bush, and likely one of the other 4 for Bush or Perot (all were single, I believe)…
…which means the rest + Tim Meadows (who always struck me as independent and sensible) would be in the non-Clinton category. One might be tempted to put Mike Myers in the (D) category, but his non-participation in WWG means to me he’s also likely quite sensible, too.
in the end Africa will expand in every direction to a point when the sun never goes down in the African demographic kingdom
That reminds me of this SNL presidential debate skit:
https://screen.yahoo.com/cold-opening-bush-clinton-perot-000000359.html
Just keep in mind…
The message to the white race from the great majority of Jews is…
“Take in all the black migrants, celebrate their impregnation of white women, commit massive racial suicide, and lose your own homeland to foreigners, hahahahahahaha… and support Israel’s right to be a Jewish state.”
The Vox piece is surprisingly more candid than I expected. The revelation is in how it tries to wave away the impact massive immigration of low-skill, low-education persons would have on those on the lower part of the wage distribution in the US. First, citing Bryan Caplan, the author indicates that the impact on low-wage Americans is “in dispute” (which in itself cedes some territory – elsewhere, they just dismiss, without evidence, the idea that introducing tens of millions of people with less than a high school education would have deleterious effects on an economy when data show that earnings have been flat for most workers for 45 years) by saying that any such impacts could be handled through ‘transfer payments.’
Got that?
If I could be a bit more direct, “it’s OK to let in millions of uneducated, unskilled workers because the millions of Americans who no longer will be able to find work (how many lawns are there to cut? Dishes to wash? ) will simply be paid not to work by increasing the tax burden on the shrinking percentage of people who can ‘afford’ to lift said burden.
Most interesting was Caplan’s argument comparing the potential inundation with the introduction of women into the work force 45 years ago. He asserts that this caused the economy to grow and not contract. Yet, he seems either to be completely ignorant of the fact that the stall and ultimate decline in wage growth nearly perfectly correlates when women entered.
Yes, the total size of the economy grew. But the wages taken home by the average worker went down.
How, exactly, does this militate for arguing that it will be beneficial to the average American to open the borders?
open bordersno borders side: elide the difference between GDP and per capita incomes.Another is one you pointed out, not extrapolating the effect of increasing the labor supply on the demand for labor. The more 3rd and 4th world immigrants, the lower they will earn, and at some point, they'll earn $0 in the private sector, because all the jobs for which they are qualified will have been taken.
But there's other interesting stuff in that piece. The paragraph about immigration lowering crime rates links to a study about Eastern European immigration (presumably, excluding gypsies). Not a problem for the CW left, because they assume humans are fungible.
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don't know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine areReplies: @Lot, @Kevin O'Keeffe
“By the way, about 10 years ago I saw the U.S. government stats showing about 70,000 Russians and 60,000 Ukrainians immigrating to the U.S. each year.
(about the same as the numbers of the Chinese and East Indians immigrating here every year in the last 15-20 years). I don’t know what the current figures for Russia and Ukraine are”
I can report that here in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, we have a significant Ukrainian immigrant community. They seem to be mainly blue-collar/working class, actually ethnic Ukrainians, as opposed to all the “Russian” immigrants I’d previously seen in the Bay Area (who were invariably Jewish).
Just pondering the present sick joke of a crisis for a moment.
For argument’s sake, let’s give those fleeing Syria and other war zones the benefit of the doubt for the moment, and just consider the untold thousands of sub Saharan Africans scamming the ‘migrant’ trope.
What, in effect, they are really saying is ‘black people have failed, we are failures, we DEMAND that you, the white man MUST look after us and take care of us because we are constitutionally incapable of doing so ourselves so you MUST give in to our demands and take care of us, we are imposing ourselves at your mercy and you have no choice but to give us that mercy which is our due’.
And for all my life, the Atlantic slave trade in which whites forced blacks to live amongst them has been held up as the greatest evil ever perpetrated in history. In this present crisis, really and truly, when you cut through the crap, black Africans are effectively demanding to make themselves wards of white men. The difference between being enslaved by another ethnicity and voluntarily making yourself a ward or a charge of another ethnicity is really only a matter of degree. Crucially, in both cases, the concept hinges on the loss of self determination and self autonomy, in that the implicit admission is that the ‘migrants’ want others to be put in charge of their lives and destiny.
Up to the 1980s and 90s, Italy had precious few third world immigrants.
Around that time successive Italian lefty – remember they are really communists – governments thought that they were being all trendy, ‘humane’ and with-it, plus getting a few Economist brownie points, by declaring one so-called ‘amnesty’ ie rewarding lawbreaking, after another.
What we are seeing today is the inevitable long term result of those ‘amnesties’.
MORAL:
Intelligently run nations never give ‘amnesties’.
Our culture does that, too. My kids hear about the Shoah constantly in school. Every other program on cable is called “Nazis: How Could the Evilest Evil that Ever Evilled Be SO DARN EVIL, Part 12” It’s not hard to see whose culture this is. What’s hard is to get over the fear associated with noticing.
How many know who Stalin’s Willing Executioners were? How many know who was in charge in Turkey during the Armenian Genocide? How many know who has been beavering away this last century turning America into the giant whorehouse it is today?
Mysterious! Are there any groups which really hate Christians and who also seem like they are in control of, say, entertainment, media, and academia?
I owe you a beer.
Only if permafrost holds on and the humongous quantities of methane kept captive.
If you visited the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia (and understood Arabic) you’d hear a great deal from the locals. The locals being Shia rather than Sunni.
This would not surprise me and amazingly enough this golden era was the last time I watched it every week. They did great send ups of Frank Sinatra (Phil Hartman) and Paul MaCartney as a marijuana addled stooge. btw Wikipedia has Adam Sandler down as contributing to Rudolph Giuliani’s 2008 Presidential campaign
There are 500 m people in Europe, a whopping 1% of those seem to be of SSA origin. Even if there are a few hundred thousand immigrants for the next years, nothing much will happen.
If there were a really significant increase in immigration very soon there would be rather strict immigration restrictions. I suppose, the French level of SSA immigrants is pretty much on the edge. Most European countries probably won't let it get so high.Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @Kylie
So they won’t be breeding like…er…rabbits?
Or is that your idea of nothing much happening?
Angelina Jolie is pushing for the de-whitening of Europe: “It is sickening to see thousands of people drowning on the doorstep of the world’s wealthiest continent.”
Photo of the Vox author Dylan Mathews http://tinyurl.com/oc3ntvk His name could be a woman’s or man’s and he looks ambiguous himself
The carnage was remarkable and so was the depiction of that carnage. So was the moral inwardness inspired by that destruction. I think it's fair to say that one reason the European empires collapsed was because of these wars, etc. and this moral awakening (if you want to call it that) also inspired the Civil Rights movement, the human rights movement, and cradle to grave socialism.
From a religious, moral POV that's all good, but from a practical dog-eat-dog perspective it is not good. The rest of the world would, without hesitation, eat up all our assets if they could, and dominate us, if they could. In short, the wars, etc. has caused the West to become more introspective and empathetic, and they have been able to afford it, because of the fabulous wealth we have enjoyed since the late '40's. It can't last forever, either because it will lead to self-destruction or else the money will run out, and when that happens people retrench and start looking out for themselves. But it hasn't happened yet.Replies: @Horzabky
It is just beginning to happen. US oil production has been declining for a month. If the decline continues because demand can’t be artificially sustained by creating money out of thin air, prosperity won’t last. 2015 may be the last good year of this century.
Here in the Paris region about 60% of newborns are non-white, and that number is rising by about one percent each year. In all of France, it’s about a quarter of all births. In London, British whites are a minority. The Western half of Europe has already lost the demographic battle.
For argument's sake, let's give those fleeing Syria and other war zones the benefit of the doubt for the moment, and just consider the untold thousands of sub Saharan Africans scamming the 'migrant' trope.
What, in effect, they are really saying is 'black people have failed, we are failures, we DEMAND that you, the white man MUST look after us and take care of us because we are constitutionally incapable of doing so ourselves so you MUST give in to our demands and take care of us, we are imposing ourselves at your mercy and you have no choice but to give us that mercy which is our due'.
And for all my life, the Atlantic slave trade in which whites forced blacks to live amongst them has been held up as the greatest evil ever perpetrated in history. In this present crisis, really and truly, when you cut through the crap, black Africans are effectively demanding to make themselves wards of white men. The difference between being enslaved by another ethnicity and voluntarily making yourself a ward or a charge of another ethnicity is really only a matter of degree. Crucially, in both cases, the concept hinges on the loss of self determination and self autonomy, in that the implicit admission is that the 'migrants' want others to be put in charge of their lives and destiny.Replies: @ABN
In general, power and responsibility are two sides of the same coin. If you want other people to be responsible for your welfare, it’s only fair that you surrender your power to those people.
What we are seeing is an argument for colonialism. If Eritreans or Mauritanians or whatever want Europeans to take responsibility for their welfare, then Europeans should be able to intervene in the source countries to mitigate the circumstances that drive emigration, especially the ridiculous, grossly irresponsible fertility levels.
Adam Sandler · Net worth $300 million USD (2015)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen
I liked The Wedding Singer, and I recently saw another movie he costarred in with Drew Barrymore that wasn’t bad, Blended (he plays a widower with a daughter, she plays a divorcee with a son or two). His best work though, IMO, was Punch Drunk Love.
Most of his other movies I can’t watch.
Got that?
If I could be a bit more direct, "it's OK to let in millions of uneducated, unskilled workers because the millions of Americans who no longer will be able to find work (how many lawns are there to cut? Dishes to wash? ) will simply be paid not to work by increasing the tax burden on the shrinking percentage of people who can 'afford' to lift said burden.
Most interesting was Caplan's argument comparing the potential inundation with the introduction of women into the work force 45 years ago. He asserts that this caused the economy to grow and not contract. Yet, he seems either to be completely ignorant of the fact that the stall and ultimate decline in wage growth nearly perfectly correlates when women entered.
Yes, the total size of the economy grew. But the wages taken home by the average worker went down.
How, exactly, does this militate for arguing that it will be beneficial to the average American to open the borders?Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Yeah, that’s one of the common tacks on the
open bordersno borders side: elide the difference between GDP and per capita incomes.Another is one you pointed out, not extrapolating the effect of increasing the labor supply on the demand for labor. The more 3rd and 4th world immigrants, the lower they will earn, and at some point, they’ll earn $0 in the private sector, because all the jobs for which they are qualified will have been taken.
But there’s other interesting stuff in that piece. The paragraph about immigration lowering crime rates links to a study about Eastern European immigration (presumably, excluding gypsies). Not a problem for the CW left, because they assume humans are fungible.
That’s assuming that Western Europe continues to observe the doctrines of Citizenism. (You might say that Citizenism opposes mass immigration, which is true, but Citizenism also defends the consequences of mass immigration once those migrants are naturalized or born with birthright citizenship. In this sense, Citizenism is a fatally incomplete ideology, a vaguely absurd variant of Red Rover in which anyone who manages to cross the barrier is then immediately defended as a fellow member of the put-upon team.)
The War of the Cradle exists always and everywhere, and one of the many reasons for separate countries is that mostly-homogenous societies can politely pretend that this war doesn’t exist. But the West is reaching a point at which the war is impossible to ignore, so the Citizenist gloves may well come off. For how long can an existential battle be fought under Marquis of Queensbury rules?
Keep in mind that today’s Western Europeans are more or less the same people who slaughtered each other for all kinds of petty reasons for centuries. They’re the same people who killed each other by the millions twice within the last hundred years. Yes, we’ve been living with the ideological backlash from those wars for the last 70 years, and, yes, Europe doesn’t have a lot of expendable young people today, and, yes, multicultural globalists are currently in power. And yet, if the great nations of the West are placed into a corner, who’s to say that Johnny Fascist won’t come roaring back?
I’m not saying this would be a desirable event. In fact, it would be an utterly tragic event, since it would have been entirely avoidable. (This was the point of Powell’s “rivers of blood” comment.) The reign of political correctness might end quite brusquely, and, if it does, the proponents of multiculturalism and mass immigration will be at least as much to blame as the native Westerners fighting back ferociously.
And the bow tie too. A backpfeifengesicht.
European colonialism was initially a reaction to Muslim slave raids e.g. Barbary pirates or the Russian expansion eastwards against steppe raiders.
“European colonialism was initially a reaction to Muslim slave raids e.g. Barbary pirates…”
The Portuguese literally started exploring down the African coast to find and attack pirates who had been raiding Portugal.
“Perhaps. But maybe it is just the straight jacket of the female vote.”
It might be that the West’s current attitude toward immigration is very similar to Prohibition in the US, one of the first big results of women getting the vote. I don’t know if it was actually women voting for Prohibition as much as politicians believing they had to appeal to women by giving them what they wanted (or at least what some said they wanted).
Today it’s similar with immigration. With immigration policy it’s not so much about directly giving women what they want, but never being seen in anything other than a kum-ba-ya moment smiling with all the beaming children. Like Prohibition, maybe it’s time to call off the charade and attempt no more good than the population can bear.
Sweden YES!Replies: @athEIst
Norway was Sweden’s bitch until 1905, but that’s unlikely to happen again.
So they will come. And come. And come.
To stop them, nations such as Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Croatia, and Greece must build a proper navy. Spain has according to Wiki:
1 multipurpose helicopter/aircraft carrier
6 Frigates
5 AEGIS Destroyers
3 submarines
6 mine hunters
4 Corvettes
17 patrol ships
Which is not anywhere near enough to cover Spain's part of the Med. The Spanish navy would need to be four/five times as big just to have enough ships on station patrolling and sending people back.
Moreover the history of trying to stop raiders from North Africa is a poor one. Neither Charles I nor Philip II of Spain during the height of their power could do it. Not even the Holy League combined after Lepanto could do it. It took France colonizing Algeria and stationing lots of troops there permanently to stop raiding there and also from Libya and Morocco.
To stop about 100 million Africans from moving into Europe in the next few years, Europe would have to build and equip and man a massive Med-based Navy. From, let us be frank, nearly nothing. Spain's navy is massive compared to Italy's, or Greece's navy. Europe will also have to establish defacto colonies in Libya, and Tunisia. With constant casualties and grinding warfare that involves. Europe has neither the will nor the young men; half the men under age 30 in France are Muslim IIRC.
Finally, there is the Feminism factor. Most White middle class and particularly Upper Class women figure prosperity and modern Western society "just happen." They are enraged in particular by how White geeky guys create new tech all the time that makes "spot the Alpha" much harder. The Dogs that never barked were the lack of women all over Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates in his day. Both men were easy targets for any adventuress, and believe me all men prefer younger and hotter women to uglier and older ones. Both had to settle, one for an employee of marginal attractiveness and the other for a long-time girlfriend.
Jared Leto and Wilmer Valderrama, two minor actors in Hollywood, had better, hotter, younger, and more women than the two major single captains of industry. Lesson? Women detest male intelligence unless it is spiked with social dominance and charisma and more than a bit of cruelty.
Particularly the Maureen Dowds, the Tina Feys, the Sheryl Sandbergs, believe that drowning White geeky guys in a sea of Africans will just STOP the tech and social churn and allow them to spot White Male Alphas easier. No more Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerbergs. Just an ocean of Jared Letos and Wilmer Valderramas.Replies: @anonymous, @Bill, @athEIst
sending people back.
Don’t send people back. Machine-gun the boats, show it on television. You won’t have to do it too many times.
The Russian Far East and Siberia may actually be a perfect place to send the superfluous Sub Saharan population.
And then after 100,000 years of dealing with a challenging environment, they might acquire the missing 10 I.Q. points they lack.
There. I said it!
Don't send people back. Machine-gun the boats, show it on television. You won't have to do it too many times.Replies: @Steve Sailer
The Europeans have such overwhelming military superiority that they don’t need violence, they just need the threat of force. That’s what the Australians are using and it’s working.
As the old fashioned naval etiquette has it, the first action is to 'fire a shot across the bows'.
Yup.
As the old fashioned naval etiquette has it, the first action is to ‘fire a shot across the bows’.
While I’m not a religious believer myself, I am stunned by how ignorant of history most people are. Did Muslim North Africa just appear one day? No, the previously Romanized and Christian territories of North Africa were taken over in a blitzkrieg. I read in various places that rebuttals to the accusation (partly true, in modern terms) that black Africa had no civilization to speak of contain things like the Sokoto Caliphate, which were very recent and were all Islamic. There is so much irony in the fact that the supposed civilizations of Africa before evil white man came are actually the product of a totally different civilization, imposing itself in the region and fueling racism, slavery and destruction for more than a thousand years. This is what happens when you don’t record history and let other people do it for you. At least the Westerners were keen and honest historiographers and archeologists, moreso than any other civilization. I grow ever more enamored with the West as I take the opportunity to travel and see its legacy. Just recently, I saw the Rape of Proserpina in Rome. Any civilization that cultivates those artists deserves to be maintained.
It’s much easier and more effective to critique peoples that still exist, not their ancestors, especially when the critic’s civilizational lens doesn’t go that far back. But Al Sharpton took a swipe anyway, when he referenced all the African (was it Bantu, Igbo, Zulu African or dreamland pan-African) achievements like astrology, math and such that predated “all the Greek homos” :)) Then again, he might not be wrong, if he was simply appropriating the Egyptians, rather than inventing some Sub-Saharan wonder tribe no one ever saw fit to mention, describe or record.
While Japan is not being threatened with a flood of immigrants Europe is and if there is little danger of native Italians or Germans not being capable of electing a government of their choice the problem maybe that such a government may lack the physical ability to enforce the laws they pass.
You need young males between 18 and 40 or so to be the business end of any government. Wisdom may come with age but the ability to arrest people or physically compel people to do things they don't want is a young man's game. Now if you look at a population pyramid of Italy, e.g. you see that there are projected to be only about 7 million males between the ages of 20 and 40 in 2020 out of total population of more than 60 million. Now most of those Italian men ( even with the high youth unemployment ) are going to be unavailable to be used as gendarmes of the Italian government so if Italy has a million or so young African 'migrants' selling drugs and trinkets on the streets of Rome, Milan etc and the Italian people say 'enough send them back' the ability of the state to enforce its democratic mandate without a full scale mobilization of the population is dubious.Replies: @Romanian
I’d still bet on a geezer with a gun over a young dude with a machete.
Hey guys, remember that film Zulu Dawn? Well that’s what southern Italy will be facing within the next few months due to the hordes that the Italian miliatry are bringing ashore. And feeding and housing at taxpayers expense despite the crippling economic crisis and massive youth unemployment. These Africans migrations could have been avoided, however, if the boatloads of migrants were quietly but firmly turned back in 2011 far from the glare of the liberal self-flagellating media. Instead we are treated to an outburst of European breast-beating whenever an illegal boat sinks off the Libyan coast carrying people attempting to illegally enter another country. That by the way used to be called an invasion but in today’s PC world we must needs refer to this as “seeking a better life”.
What we are seeing is deliberate social engineering designed by the elite to replace the indigenous white European working class with young, unskilled Africans and South Asians as a means to compete with China and global slavery. The interim will be necessarily ugly. As food, water, resources and space for accomodation become exhausted there will be massive riots with many people killed. European women will be the most vulnerable as neatly all these “refugees” are in fact young men of fighting age. There will be an exodus of whites from western Europe while the boats will keep coming. End result; bye bye tourism, culture and cute blondie girls.
It's much easier and more effective to critique peoples that still exist, not their ancestors, especially when the critic's civilizational lens doesn't go that far back. But Al Sharpton took a swipe anyway, when he referenced all the African (was it Bantu, Igbo, Zulu African or dreamland pan-African) achievements like astrology, math and such that predated "all the Greek homos" :)) Then again, he might not be wrong, if he was simply appropriating the Egyptians, rather than inventing some Sub-Saharan wonder tribe no one ever saw fit to mention, describe or record.Replies: @Kat Grey
well put
Unfortunately we are mostly an unarmed populace; the private ownership of firearms being restricted to a select few. Here in Italy there is only about one policeman to every 300 people despite Italy having one of the largest police forces in western Europe. These migrants are dressed in designer gear, are well-nourished and can afford the £8000 journey from central Africa to the shores of Italy. There are only two classes of people in Sub-Sahara Africa who can afford to hand over this much cash: the corrupt policemen and criminals. What does this tell you about these “poor refugees fleeing war and poverty to seek a better life”? And in the process destroy ours beyond recognition!!
Except that the European elitists are seeking to destroy Europe’s white indigenous working class by stealthy sub-Saharan African migrations; they will never use military might. Another thing our voices of protest against this invasion are being drowned out by the combined force of the manipulative media, sociologists, “historians”, philosophers, socialists and the Pope; all of whom tell us it’s our moral as well as economic duty to take these people into Europe even if it means making sacrifices . They claim the falling indigenous birthdate as justification, forgetting that once these people have the demographic whip hand its highly unlikely they will tax themselves to pay for the pensions of aging white folks.
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/27/8500171/eu-mediterranean-disaster-response
Our cowardice in using all that badly spent military money is seen as a good thing by Vox and a model for the US.Replies: @Kat Grey
...which means the rest + Tim Meadows (who always struck me as independent and sensible) would be in the non-Clinton category. One might be tempted to put Mike Myers in the (D) category, but his non-participation in WWG means to me he's also likely quite sensible, too.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Sensible enough for a Torontonian not to interfere in US politics, one would hope. Though Wikipedia says he holds US citizenship along with Canadian and British. No one can accuse him of dual loyalties!
In Allah’s name, am I depressed!
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/27/8500171/eu-mediterranean-disaster-response
Our cowardice in using all that badly spent military money is seen as a good thing by Vox and a model for the US.
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/27/8500171/eu-mediterranean-disaster-response
Our cowardice in using all that badly spent military money is seen as a good thing by Vox and a model for the US.Replies: @Kat Grey
I watched an Italian programme last night about the African migrants in the accomodation centres, all of whom happen to be men wearing costly designer label sports gear. They already have the whip hand over the Italian locals who cannot do anything to prevent the ruination of their neighbourhoods which now resemble Freetown and Lagos as the “refugees” come and go from these centres as they please; despite the authorities having no clue as to their identity or place of origin. All they can repeat is the tired staccato mantra “There is war in my country”. Precisely which war has never been ascertained but they are clearly not Syrian. Their declared goal is to reach affluent Northern European nations, however it is to be expected that they will do much damage here in Italy before that Nordic dream is achieved. If a group of drunken Dutch football hooligans can trash Rome’s Spanish Steps in an evening with little resistance from the police what havoc can a platoon of angry migrants wreck on an unarmed population in a country that is an open museum with its legion of art treasures and monuments?
The native westerners will not be to blame for fighting back in order to survive the relentless attacks on its every flank. The proponents of multiculturalism are not interested in historical comparisons or lessons that should have been learned such as the dangers of a Balkanisied nation. They are not particularly concerned if blonde hair will be forever consigned to Barbie dolls rather than little boys and girls. They are merely tools of giant companies who need to compete with China whose tentacles are in every continent; millions of Europeans who demand relatively high salaries are an impediment to trade, competition and high profit intake. International socialism and nationalist capitalism have joined forces in one gigantic global monolith that needs a low-paid work force. White Europeans made themselves redundant.