@alexgibson @pmac @stephaniehobson What do you think about this issue? Opinions and suggestions are very welcome. We haven't gone very far into defining workflows and roles yet, so this is all new territory.

I guess my immediate question is: what kind of review have the translations had prior to being released from Smartling, and by who (l10n managers)? And then: what kind of review do they need when viewed in the CMS prior to being published? Answering this probably gives us a good enough answer for who needs to be notified.

As for the notification: something in the CMS makes the most sense to me, and then probably an email after that. I think in Slack, things might get lost / missed if we have a lot of translations landing?

I guess my immediate question is: what kind of review have the translations had prior to being released from Smartling, and by who (l10n managers)?

My understanding is that @peiying2 will sign off on the Smartling end in order to Publish the translations. Is that right @peiying2?

And then: what kind of review do they need when viewed in the CMS prior to being published? Answering this probably gives us a good enough answer for who needs to be notified.

This I do not know. With Contentful, Smartling strings went straight into pages, but I can't remember if they had to be manually published after that.

With Fluent strings in non-CMS views, am I right that they basically just flow into bedrock with no need for QA by the Websites team, and if the activation threshold is met, the page is available in that locale @alexgibson ?

With Fluent strings in non-CMS views, am I right that they basically just flow into bedrock with no need for QA by the Websites team, and if the activation threshold is met, the page is available in that locale @alexgibson ?

That's right, as soon as the l10n team review and approve the changes they go live. but (I believe) a part of that process involves previewing the translations on www-dev (at least for Pontoon). I guess the question is: is no website team QA OK for wagtail translations, or is there a need for any additional checks when thing come back? (e.g. page translations may contain different links to en pages, possible formatting errors etc).

Another consideration is that we might want to group publishing translations. For example: if we add a new product page, and then link to it from the products index page, we need both of those changes to go live at the same time - even if the translations finish separately.

The person who wrote the content originally is probably the best judge of that, though expecting that level of L10n forethought might be expecting too much from someone who just learned to use a CMS.

Ideally we have editors and moderators for sections of the site defined, so if a translation is made to Foundation content only Foundation editors/moderators (whatever we decide is the right number of people) get pinged, likewise changes to Marketing content go to Marketing for review & approval, etc, etc.

There will probably some content which only has one editor and so the websites team would have to be moderator for that area... assuming we want to keep the same "if you wrote it you can't publish it" rules that we have in other places (like Git).

Channel wise I think a group Slack channel is the wrong way to notify for this. A direct message might be more useful but that's basically just email for people who don't check email. So, I guess I'm voting email.

I do like the idea of a CMS notification when they log in to make it fast/easy to find the content to review & approve.

For now, we're going to start with simply emailing all Admins each time a translation lands. We'll tune it from there, and we can keep this issue open after the initial work is done to track where we go next

(We can make custom notification panels on the Wagtail homepage/dashboard, too -- that would be a good later move but requires keeping a bit of state about what those notificaitons are, etc. Maybe there's already a third-party solution for that)