Talk:China Daily

about the information of "China Daily"

The information in Wikipedia concerning China Daily (year of establishment said to be 1985) is a bit inconsistent with that in the official website of China Daily (which said the newspaper was established in 1981).

"21st Century" links to an article about the actual century, not to the publication. It is a publication sent to English teachers in China with articles about current events and college life in the US.

This is a current article sentence: "After the June 6th massacre many were purged. One example is You Nuo, who was exiled to Xinjiang for several years before being [allowed to return] (previous use of "rehabilitated" suggested there was malfunction with You Nuo to support the Tiananmen Square demonstrations)." I do not wish to take part in this political discussion, but I will comment on this grammar. This last parenthetical expression is poorly written and I have no idea what it means. Please rewrite it in a logical and correct manner.

Mainland vs PRC

China daily is a national newspaper that publishes across the entire country. What reason is there that this should be category limited to mainland China?

The Financial Times is also printed and sold in Hong Kong. Are they newspaper of Hong Kong then? — Instantnood 08:46, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Also, changing categories and reverts and marking them as minor edits is subterfuge. SchmuckyTheCat 23:35, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"What reason is there that this should be category limited to mainland China?" - Is the China Daily actually published outside of Mainland China? For example, is it actually on sale in Taiwan, and if ist is on sale does Taiwan even count as part of China for these purposes? - perfectblue (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

mainland again

[1] Can Instantnood provide a citation to english language newspaper circulation? It is my understanding that China Daily has the widest circulation of any english newspaper in ALL of China, by anyone's definition of China. SchmuckyTheCat 19:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Given the geographical size, population and size of economy of mainland China, everything with the largest circulations, readerships, consumptions, sales return, etc. in mainland China, would be the largest in any definition of China. China Daily is basically a paper published in the mainland. The edition on newsstands in Hong Kong is different from the one in the mainland. As for citation, I don't know. I just keep the information there. It was not me who added it there. — Instantnood 20:01, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

SCMP has quite the circulation too, since English is a native language in HK. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there is a large circulation english paper in Taipei (and I'll go look). SchmuckyTheCat 20:16, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

What does differing editions of the China Daily has anything to do with the fact that it has the largest circulation in all of China? And if anything to do with China is going to be big because it is big, then yes, accept this fact and reflect it. Are we going to carve the country up into pieces by the virtue that it is too big and cant allow its individual regions to shine on their own right? I also fail to understand what kind of excuse is that in instantnood's avoidance in providing citation. As far as I can see, he tried to change this page, not "keeping the information there". Meanwhile, STC, English is a native language in HK?--Huaiwei 20:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Native, err, um. Official, anyhoos. :)

And, Taipei's China Post claims 300,000 daily, so I will update the article again to PRC. SchmuckyTheCat 20:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Haha...that dosent make it a native language. Anyone who has heard how an average HKer speaks English will know what I mean! :D--Huaiwei 22:05, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

From the China Daily website, " Its circulation is 200,000, one-third of which is abroad in more than 150 countries and regions. " [2]. Not sure if Hong Kong and Macao are considered abroad or not. In another paragraph below on the same webpage, it says " As a newspaper group, China Daily also runs China Business Weekly, China Daily Hong Kong Edition, Shanghai Star, Beijing Weekend and 21st Century. ", sounds like China Daily Hong Kong Edition is another publication different from the China Daily. — Instantnood 21:15, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

So what does this gotta do with the fact the China Daily has the largest circulation in the PRC?--Huaiwei 22:05, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

It sounds like the same China Daily in the mainland is not in circulation in Hong Kong. But what you said is always right.. Mount Everest is the highest point in Asia, and the highest point in the world. — Instantnood 06:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

This job ad of the China Daily Hong Kong Edition is like saying that it's a newspaper on its own [3]. In this article [4] the China Daily Hong Kong Edition is said to be one of the eight publications of the group, together with China Daily. — Instantnood 09:31, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

(response to Instantnood's comment at 06:42, October 6) Again, what does the newspaper having a different edition in HK has anything to do with this discussion? What I say will be correct if it is backed up with verifiable facts. If you assumed it is all true, then you certainly regard me very highly. I am deeply appreciative of your unreserved respect for my intellectual depth and capability. Meanwhile, the floor is yours to show us that Mount Everest is not the highest point in Asia, or the highest point in the world.--Huaiwei 13:37, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

If the statistics is only compiled for mainland China, even if it's true that this newspaper has the largest circulation when the Hong Kong and Macao figures are included, still it would be, in my opinion, more appropriate to say mainland rather than PRC, since it gives readers a clearer picture. — Instantnood 14:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Clearer picture of? We often hear comments such as a bank is the largest in the world. Does this mean it has operations in all parts of the world? The largest telco in Asia has telco operations in all of Asia? The largest airline in East Asia flies to all airports in East Asia? And the largest newspaper in terms of circulation in the PRC must have its papers sold or read throughout the PRC? And this is on top of accepting your argument that the version in HK is different. So what difference does it actually make even if you could argue to the point that they become two 100% distinct newspapers?--Huaiwei 14:47, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Alright. If you're arguing in this way, you are always right. It's never wrong to say a mainland Chinese company as an East Asian company or an Asian company, or to say a building in Singapore as a building in Southeast Asia or a building in Asia. What you're doing is to get rid of the term "mainland China" whenever possible. — Instantnood 16:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

It's not me who argue they become two 100% distinct newspapers. It is the way the official website talks about them [5] (" As a newspaper group, China Daily also runs China Business Weekly, China Daily Hong Kong Edition, Shanghai Star... "). — Instantnood 17:27, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Two words: Grow up.--Huaiwei 16:21, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Many conversations between you and I end up with either the word maturity, or the two words above... sounds like the way a 80-year-old senior talking to younger people, who are always kids in his eyes, even they are over 50 years old. Well it's true that the senior has much more experiences. Older = wiser? huh? :-P — Instantnood 17:27, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

With all due respect, reading comments like the above is pure torture. The poorly-constructed sentences poses great strain on my basic comprehension skills. The lack of prose is a grave challenge to my basic senses used to processing normal sentences. And the deprivation of sophistication presents a severe, mind-stumping effect on my intellect accustomed to challenges fathoms above what has been thrust cruelly upon me.

I humbly surrender. Perhaps I should placing

en-0 This person does not understand English (or understands it with considerable difficulties).

in my user page.--Huaiwei 19:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd consider the above comment as a sign showing his unwillingness to ressolve any disagreements through discussions. — Instantnood 19:33, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

There has never been a discussion in the first place. I dont consider it as such when statements like "what you said is always right" can constantly pop up. The above conduct speaks for itself....and more.--Huaiwei 20:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Merging

I think that this article really should have the CDHK article merged into it. It appears no one else has commented on this directly. The content of the HK edition is very similar to the mainland edition, with a few articles are different. Aep 03:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I've provided some links above, such as [6] and [7]. — Instantnood 14:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I say merge, if that's undesirable since they aren't "100%" the same, move this to China Daily Group and merge all its subsidiaries into it. Radagast83 21:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

What does this mean?

"(previous use of "rehabilitated" suggested there was malfunction with You Nuo to support the Tiananmen Square demonstrations)." - this makes no sense in English; could someone translate it better, please? 81.153.110.72 23:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

It's a political term sometime used in China. For example, if the government decide that an historic figure who has fallen out of favor because of their ideological views should receive a "makeover" and be brought back into favor then this term might be used. It might also be used to as a polite way of sayign that somebody was lent on to change their views. - perfectblue (talk) 20:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Why is the mentioning you nuo deleted from the current edition? Why is the mentioning of Tiananmen be removed? The post-Tiananmen crackdown did force many Chinese journalists to leave their posts. Is there anyone afraid of facing what he did in the past? Is so, say sorry and correct what you did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.222.120.167 (talk) 06:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Racist & Xenophobic Publication

I'm a Canadian living in China and I normally read China Daily each morning. I would like to know why no one has written about the extreme racism, hate, xenophobia, and general anti-west stories and comments that they allow on their site. Thanks - 121.227.149.228 (talk) 00:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC) Canadian_Laowai

Unfortunally that is not incommon in China - you can criticize other nations but you cant say a bad word about china. I would be suprised if not many other chinese newspapers act in the same way . 193.235.138.40 (talk) 07:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I think Chinadaily is xenophobic towards the Chinese as an ethnicity, and depicts them as rude, uncouth, and some of them with criminal intent. Perhaps you are not the Canadian you describe yourself as. Dark Liberty (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Chinadaily forums

Most of the content is highly critical of China and its government, as evidenced in the Chinadaily forums, and depicts the West and its culture in a lofty and elevated manner. Dark Liberty (talk) 20:59, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Viewpoint of Chinadaily

"For the most part, the paper portrays the official policy of the PRC"

there is a problem with this sentence. Chinadaily's articles range from servile towards Western culture to demonstrative and reprimanding of the United States; there is no consensus except for economic policy. Dark Liberty (talk) 06:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

here is an example of how pathetic it is:

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-10/01/content_18691404.htm

Dark Liberty (talk) 08:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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