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RE: ARIN again being impossible. Why are they so difficult? Trying to contact someone in management there (who helped us in Sep 2024)


From: John Palmer via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 13:18:59 -0600

I appreciate their diligence as well. I was just at a dead end. I think we got some stuff unblocked.

The hardest one of these is a /24 that we got by buying a 20% share of a Canadian company that gave us the right to the 
block. The problem is, the share was purchased by myself and one other person and that person is deceased. On top of 
that, 2 of the 4 POCs on the block are also dead.

The urgency is that we are one of the victims of Hivelocity's exit from 350 E. Cermak and we need to change providers 
quickly. Our new provider is requiring RPKI on all blocks and we can't do that without getting all of this sorted out.

John

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From: Jess Basl via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2026 12:25
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
Cc: Jess Basl <jessb () sctcweb com>
Subject: Re: ARIN again being impossible. Why are they so difficult? Trying to contact someone in management there (who 
helped us in Sep 2024)

I agree with all of this. I took me years to clear up our Org ID with ARIN to prove our current company was indeed the 
entity that absorbed the previous company. While public documentation on our state's SoS site clearly showed our old 
LLC being dissolved, with a new dBa being created under the same parent company, with the same name as the previous 
LLC, I still had to produce INTERNAL company documentation that went over the acquisition.

This is where having an old accountant still employed with the company proved his weight in gold. He remembered meeting 
minutes, notes, documentation, as well as dates and where all of that was actually sitting in a file cabinet. Mind you, 
the acquisition took place more than a decade before I came onboard with the company. Nobody thought to update our ARIN 
account at the time with the new company info and let it fester for years until ARIN had no way of verifying we were 
who we were saying.

Considering the value of IPv4 space in today's market, I don't question at all how serious ARIN is about requiring 
proof of ownership. While the process doesn't ease the situation, it does its role in ensuring a bad actor can't fake 
their way into acquiring your legacy assets.




Jess Basl
SCTC / PTC
CO Network Admin



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On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 10:05 AM jay--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

On 2/11/26 13:53, John Palmer via NANOG wrote:
ARIN is again being problematic.

They are asking for a document showing that the company is in good
standing.
We attached the document but they refuse to accept it and are giving 
us
the
run-around. We already certified this back in 2024. The ARIN 
consultant simply went on the state website and was able to see the 
company was in
good
standing. Now they want a document that doesn't exist (state 
provides no such document).

We went through something very similar. Numerous mergers and 
acquisitions, some legacy space, and the cherry on top was that our 
company went through a name change in the middle of the process.
Eventually we got through it.

The other two three orgs that we are trying to merge into  our 
current
OrgId
- those may be a bit more difficult - being registered back when you 
sent Jon Postel an e-mail template to get space.

As was our oldest block.

Look, we are trying to give them MORE money (the fee will go up if 
we add those IP4 resources to our existing RSA). Hard to believe 
they are this difficult.

They are being "difficult" due to the many bad actors stealing legacy
IPv4 space and selling it. Once IPv4 became a monetized commodity 
things have gotten really ugly. ARIN is protecting your interests, 
though sometimes it doesn't seem like it.

It's due diligence.

Keep at it, work with them. Respond to their requests on the ticket(s) 
and keep at it. You will need to do some digging.

--
Jay Hennigan - jay () west net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

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